Fox News obsesses over anonymous "1984" anti-Clinton attack ad, prompting smears from Coulter
Throughout the day on March 19, Fox News devoted several segments to an anonymously produced video posted on YouTube.com that attacked Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) by altering a famous Apple Computer advertisement. Fox News aired the video in its entirety at least five times and portions of the ad at various other times throughout the day.
The original Apple ad (which aired only once, during the 1984 Super Bowl, to promote the company's new Macintosh computer) was a takeoff on George Orwell's novel 1984, depicting a dystopian future in which a woman hurls a sledgehammer at a large television screen through which a "Big Brother"-like figure is speaking to the hypnotized masses. In the altered version posted on YouTube, the "Big Brother" figure is replaced by Clinton, and the woman hurling the sledgehammer sports a T-shirt bearing a campaign logo for Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and an Apple iPod. At the end of the video, viewers are directed to Obama's campaign website. Though Fox News noted that the source of the attack video is as yet unknown, that did not curb the network's enthusiasm for running it.
Beneath a screen shot from the video of Clinton as "Big Brother," Internet gossip Matt Drudge posted links to the video and a March 17 San Francisco Chronicle article about it on his website, the Drudge Report, on March 19.
On the March 19 edition of The Live Desk, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter called the video "amazingly powerful," and claimed: "I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat again after that." Coulter went on to claim that the video "distill[s]" Orwell's novel, and again attacked Democrats, saying: "I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat after reading Orwell's 1984."
From the March 19 edition of Fox News 'The Live Desk:
MARTHA MacCALLUM (host): All right, there you have it. It's very interesting. We put it up against the "1984" ad, the Apple ad. It is exactly -- it is the same ad with these video images laid over it. And neither side -- Barack Obama's not taking credit for it, he says we had nothing to do with this ad. Hillary Clinton says we don't know where it came from, obviously, either. What does this say about the power of, you know, people just creating their own campaign ads out there to get in the mix?
COULTER: That is an amazingly powerful ad. I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat again after that. Forget Hillary versus Obama. When I wrote High Crimes and Misdemeanors [Regnery, 1998], I got an email from a fan who said, "Great book, but you need to distill it down into a 60-second MTV, you know, video." And that's basically what this ad does for Orwell's 1984. I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat after reading Orwell's 1984.
OK, I'll bite. How does that ad translate to "I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat again after that."?
Then again, maybe the it-wolf is on to something. Somebody, quick, make a 60 second spot of republicans based on Jurrasaic Park. Nothing like dinosaurs eating each other...
"I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat again after that."
I'm having a little trouble following the at logic too. More aptly, after the incompetence and dishonestly of the Bush administration for the past six years, and after the money grubbing corruption and complete abdication of its Constitutional duties by a Republican Congress during that period, how can anyone vote for a Republican again?
The sky is blue, I dont know how anyone can ever vote for a Republican again after realizing the sky is blue
I voted for a Republican once. it was raining. And when the rain stopped I saw a cloud formation that looked like Satan... either Satan or Regis Philbin, I'm not sure.
I don't get it either. I too thought, while any politician is open to tons of valid criticism, projecting Clinton in the role of "Big Sister" is just that: projection. To me that immediately said "A Right Winger is behind this."
It's the last six years of Republican administration and legislature that got us domestic wiretapping, meter readers asked to act as survellance officers, the loss of habeas corpus, supposedly legalized torture, invasion of a sovereign state without cause, lies propped up with propoganda, patriotism as a defense, a stolen election, and a branch of government so corrupt it abdicated its job of oversight while covering up a variety of criminal activities.
THAT is 1984, sixteen years later.
But she will end up playing Big Sister if elected. It's just how the role of the Presidency has been changing in the past thirty years, becoming more and more powerful and autocratic. She will play the role because that's what the script calls for and she's not a good enough actress to improv it. She doesn't have the creativity to step outside the character.
I judge a politician by their behaviour and I can see no good minds other than Kucinich in the Dem choices. All the rest are mediocre or worse, just good at getting their name in the news without having any cause but themselves to fight for. They'll all play the Big Brother game, it's all they know. The more a politician cares, the more you know he's got a realistic grasp of the situation. But all those who read from the same old scripts over and over again, who don't push to the left...the time-servers, the do-nothings, the time-wasters.
I call all to come in out of the political desert, come to the oasis, come to the Greens. Drink deep from the water, rest in the shade of the trees. Help us irrigate the gardens and make the desert bloom with new life. Come to the oasis and live free....do not follow the howling jinn farther into the wasteland.
yeah let's split the vote on the left even further and make sure the republicans always get elected. i remeber nader saying in 2000 that it didn't matter who got elected, and if it was the republicans then the country would move to the left as a reaction. that worked out well.
People who vote Democrat are conservatives afraid to change the status quo. They are not liberals or leftists. They support a right-wing party that does right-wing things, including the same right-wing stuff the Republicans do, too.
If this was Middle-Earth, you'd be telling me to follow Saruman over Gandalf because Saruman is the lesser of two evils and at least isn't Sauron. Sorry, bub, I'm gonna go hang with Gandalf and the good guys, you can keep your lesser of two evils. I reject evil completely.
i saw the ad on nbc nightly news last night. they were wondering who actually produced it. but i had the same reaction. why would anyone base their vote for or against hillary on this ad. it says nothing.
I tried to follow the logic of the add last night and came to the conclusion I don't get it. likely because i am onto the GOP obfuscation machine and can actually think for myself and not have FOX think for me.
Vote-Fraud Annie simply doesn't know how to vote legally, period.
I got pretty peeved upon reading this. I just discovered "1984" last year (I'm 33) and it has become one of my favorite books. To hear AC say it's a statement against the Democrats angers me ... not because I'm a Democrat, but because the real message to the book (IMO) was that rapid partisanship can distract us from an oppressive government by throwing us off its track (red herring?). It means the populace is too busy hating the group out of power to realize that the one in power is raping them. Gee, I'm sure glad things aren't like that now (sarcasm).
Check out "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis or "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley, too, if you haven't yet already. They are very relevant to today's America, as is "1984". If Coulter had her way, I'm sure we'd see books like these removed from shelves in book-sellers and libraries and burnt publically as being "liberal".
I read Animal Farm at 16, more than 30 years ago and its still one of my all time favorite books.
You get the feeling that Crazy Annie has never actually READ 1984?
Or did she just see it as the blue print for a Republican ruled future?
Of course she hasn't. Anyone who's actually read 1984 can see right through Washington DC these days. She's too busy writing invective to read reality.
Awful Annie is from 1284...
I hope you're watching O'Bama. The Fox Filth Channel is just warming up.
And the rest of the corporate media is not far behind.
I'm thinking Ann's intellectual development never really advanced much beyond Ayn Rand with regards to fiction.
You get the feeling that Crazy Annie has never actually READ 1984?
Especially considering that Orwell's own politics were largely socialist. Were he in TV as a political commentator today, Coulter would likely depict Orwell as a left-wing anti-Christ.
As for the remodeled Apple ad, it's clever. But God help it's creator if Apple's legal department gets a hold of him.
she spends too much time finding ways to denigrade democrats leaving too little time to read good books.
Wow. We know the repubs are incompetent at governing, but they used to be pretty good at demagoguery. Can't even put THAT together in a coherent way these days. After watching Bush's voracious power grab over the last six years (stonewalled and defended by fellow repubs) is there someone who actually thinks Hillary is more of a threat to civil liberties than the GOP? Seriously. Anyone?
Oh yes, there are. Believe me. A LOT of knuckledraggers think that Bush is great BECAUSE of the stuff you mention. They think wiretapping is good, because it's not directed at them. They think amending the constitution to stop gay marriage is good, because it's not directed towards them. They think torturing terrorist suspects is good, because... you guessed it, it's not directed at them. These people don't give a rat's ass about America, the constitution or freedom, and they have ZERO knowledge of the history of this country and why it was founded in the first place. All they know is the second amendment, and that our dollar bills say "In God we trust", and that's good enough for them. These people don't even know the difference between the constitution and the declaration of independence.
There's a vast resource of unthinking morons out there for the Republicans to direct meaningless ads like these at, and that will eat them up, all while supporting the destruction of the freedoms they pretend to cherish.
I wouldn't be surprised if a wingnut posted the video, then included the redirect to Obama's website to give the illusion that Obama's campaign authorized it.
But then again, that's a little too far-fetched, isn't it?
Oh wait, they've done it before:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
Ann Coulter
Irrelevant and someone who just does not understand America. A pure hater.
Fox News, FPM, Newsmax...they all create a market for Hillary hate and hate of "the left" in general. Message to videographers of all stripes...if you want a free forum to get your work shown...make an anti-Hillary ad.
Indeed, Ann does her part to rewrite history to suit it for the needs of the Inner Party.
Perhaps she should try READING 1984.
I've heard other conservatives use "1984" as a reference to the dangers of "liberalism". A Christian radio host I catch sometimes cites it as well as "Brave New World" when babbling about "secular society".
I don't know if they're really this backward, to actually equate the (more) pro-corporate, war mongering, pro-conformity right as the defense against these cautionary books. Might just be a smokescreen for any of their audience who might read them.
That said, Coulters comments, as has been the trend with her lately, are getting more incoherent all the time.If anyone can explain how the image of the hammer being thrown into HRC's face could determine somebody's voting habits for life, I'm all ears.
I guess by her logic, anybody who saw Bush being burned in effigy on TV could never vote Republican again.
Its always fun to hear Christian radio decry mindless conformity and obedience.
Do you think it might be a class thing, HBLefty?
Perhaps this prostitution of literature titles either ill-applied, or - like this comment from Coulter – completely incoherent is appealing to some populist “anti-intelligentsia” sentiment.
1984 is HS assigned reading, granted. Yet many of the RW faithful I’ve met and known greatly resented education at that age. They seem to have engaged a rebellion streak against Teacher, with a capital “T” as some sort of controlling, authoritarian entity.
The RW punditry speaks down to its faithful. They lie to them constantly. Yet, I can’t help but wonder if this conduct is serving as some sort of invitation to the elite for the faithful? These are wealthy people who also originate from circumstances much more fortunate than that of their typical audience. These pundits are purportedly possessed of a great deal of advanced education. Here, in uses like this and those you mention, they “explain” to them this cultural level to which the faithful never included themselves.
Do you think that the faithful wish to be seen as having consumed the “fodder of the elites” and then seen as dismissing it all as some sort of bird flipping to those they perceive as “powerful”? It doesn't HAVE to make sense as long as they interject some terms and phrases that carry the appearance of "belonging"?
You know, kinda like a Dennis Miller rant? A one million dollar thesaurus and a Dollar Store level of comprehension to display inclusion AND contempt simultaneously?
Yeah, Fab, it seems to be a big pile of contradictions that somehow gets swallowed up by the hard-core conservative audience. The biggest evels seem to be education, the media and government.The people in media and government have, for the most part, had some sort of education, but mock education as a "liberal tool", discouraging their followers from believing in it.
Funny how thw most evil and powerful Gov'ts can put forward a philosophy of anti-government thinking, while demonizing education and information, probably the average citizens best defense against that same government's tendencies toward evil.
Do you think it might be a class thing, HBLefty?
Perhaps this prostitution of literature titles either ill-applied, or - like this comment from Coulter – completely incoherent is appealing to some populist “anti-intelligentsia” sentiment.
1984 is HS assigned reading, granted. Yet many of the RW faithful I’ve met and known greatly resented education at that age. They seem to have engaged a rebellion streak against Teacher, with a capital “T” as some sort of controlling, authoritarian entity.
The RW punditry speaks down to the faithful. They lie to them constantly. Yet, I can’t help but wonder if this conduct is serving as some sort of invitation to the elite for the faithful? These are wealthy people who also originate from circumstances so much more fortunate than that of their typical audience. These pundits are purportedly possessed of a great deal of advanced education. Here, in uses like this and those you mention, they “explain” to them this cultural level to which the faithful never included themselves.
Do you think that the faithful wish to be seen as having consumed the “fodder of the elites” and then seen as dismissing it all as some sort of bird flipping to those they perceive as “powerful”?Sorry for the double post. I thought the first one didn't go through.
Fab
Brave New World as an example of liberalism? Did they not get that whole bit about classes of people? That's hardly a Liberal ideal. That's Conservatism at its finest.
I don't know....I like being an Alpha Prime Intellectual. Too many politicians are mere Betas and Gammas. I like being higher in class than them.
"I don't know....I like being an Alpha Prime Intellectual."
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That reminds me of a truck commercial that was run a few years ago. They claimed their truck was made "for the top 1%." There were studies shown that fully 50% of licensed drivers thought they were in the top 1% when it came to driving skills.
I wonder how many who think they are "Alpha Prime Intellectuals" are actually Beta and Gammas, or even Deltas.
I'd be gleefully willing to accept the label of Omega Lesser Intellectual if it would help pull the RW supporters who eat this crap up out of their "Them vs. Us" bunkers of reactionary steel.
It's entirely frustrating to see how many votes in this society would rather rely on being told what "side" they're on - out of only two - in the American social landscape and abandon ALL reason or willingness no matter how much in the way of information you present to them.
If I need to be called dumb, poor, unintellectual, ill-educated, poorly dressed, fat - whatever it takes to disarm and allow them some timidly stepped emergence, then so be it.
It's their crippling insecurities and intellectual laziness that do the most damage after all.
When one's bathroom book is on quantum mechanics and the bedside one is on pre-modern European history and the bookshelves are full of Wells and Kipling and Shakespeare and medieval history and you got French jazz playing on the stereo....one suspects that one is a bit more advanced than your average pro wrestling or NASCAR fan.
If ya got good genes, flaunt 'em!
French jazz? I might be on the same side as Bill O'Reilly on this one.
It's just projection. They always claim the other side is out to do what they themselves are actively doing. The Nazis used this projection tactic to full effect. I've read a lot of Huxley and know he would have hated our government for being such a bunch of totalitarian repressives. "Brave New World" is not about a secular society, it's about consumerism made religion. The world described in it is very similar to the one we live in today, without the babies made in bottles part.
Example: In "Brave New World" the government made taking little happy pills mandatory...to keep away the bad thoughts and keep the populace child-like and self-indulgent. We have that...it's called Prozac. The pharmacorps want everyone on the happy pills. Having a bad thought, depressed cause your life isn't like those on tv? Have a happy pill and consume more with a smile!...in this brave new world.
Fox "News" is more a danger to "our way of life" than any f-ing terrorist.
Somebody please dig up Coulter's quotes supporting this Administration's quest for beefed-up power at the expense of the other 2 branches of Gov't.
Conservatives have lost their minds
"Fox News noted that the source of the attack video is as yet unknown..."
I figured it out... Hillary Clinton is responsible for the ad. She is FOX's chief culprit for every other negative ad against a Democrat. Why not Ma. Clinton? I'm sure FOX could be creative enough to ascribe some sinister motive to Ms. Clinton for running the attack against herself. Actually, I'm suroprised that FOX has not already posited this theory. No evidence is required of course.
Wait, isn't the Republican administration that has been telling us for six years that:
With Coulter and her ilk at Fox "News" leading the daily Two-Minutes Hate.
Those have been the mottos of the USA since the 1950's. Cold War turned us fascist, the present is just the extension and evolution of that fascism.
I wonder, does anyone really VALUE coulters opinion? I mean, even the staunch righties, do they really expect to gain enlightenment from this Twiggy/Triumph hybrid? What prescience has she provided historically to warrant anything more than an amused and curious glance in her direction?
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We've lived through six years of Bushism, and Coulter still gets attention by saying "How can anyone vote for a Democrat" after watching a doctored Apple ad about "1984"?
Why does anyone reward this pathetic, needy attention-grabber by talking about her?
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How can anyone vote for a DEMONCRAT after this ad?
Well, they could at least vote for OBAMA. After all, Ann, that seems to be the point of the ad. You're gonna need a major realignment after Obama wins the presidency and you won't have Hillary to knock around any more (at least as #1).
It drives me crazy to hear a right wing fascist like Ann Coulter saying, "I don't know how anyone can vote for a Democrat after reading Orwell's 1984." Kinda funny since I often ask myself, "How can Republicans be so mean to the poor after reading The New Testament?"
"How can Republicans be so mean to the poor after reading The New Testament?"
They skip over those parts... especially that part about the camel passing theough the eye of a needle. ;>)
Pat Robertson is invested heavily in both Genetic and Manufacturing Research, trying to create both the world's smallest camel and the world's largest needle.
You're all mistaken, not only has Ann read 1984, she's trying to make it reality. If we continue vote Democrat, how will that glorious vision of the future ever come to pass?
Of course, the way FoxNews and Ann Coulter spin it is probably idiotic (I never watch FoxNews any more) but the ad is important and its news. The best part is that "This is our conversation" superimposed in white over Hillary Clinton speaking. Her idea of conversation is that she'll say what she wants. She doesn't want to talk about what a monumental blunder the Iraq War is so thats not part of the conversation.
Has Ann Coulter ever read 1984? What with Oceania switching back and forth between declaring Eastasia or Eurasia their enemy or ally, and providing an Underground as the declared enemy, that sounds more Bush Country.
For that matter, has Ann Coulter ever read a book?
You idiot liberals just don't get it.
It's easy to see why you would never vote for democrats after seeing this video. If you Democrats were in power you're just the type to enact legislation allowing the government the power to listen in to your conversations, or have access to all your banking information. Knowing liberals I'm sure you would trumpet this legislation in the name of fighting terrorism or our enemies. You would say to the sensible Republicans who would naturally resist such legislation that they were un-patriotic, that they loved terrorists more than their country, and that they didn't support the troops. You disgusting democrats would probably even give it a name in the guise of loving your country or patriotism or something like that. This legislation would be the first steps toward the big brother in the video! That is why you could never vote democrat after seeing this!
"For that matter, has Ann Coulter ever read a book?"
Cliff Notes... No, wait, I'm sorry... I was thinking of Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. Ann actually did read a book once but she unfairly insulted the book and even called it gay, and since then all decent, intelligent, rational books have refused to open themselves to her.
I still think Ann Coulter got her law degree by first promising her professors she'd never sleep with them.
I think you meant to say "he would never sleep with them"
...except the ones who enjoyed "role playing." ;>)
Frankly, the ad wasn't all that. Hillary was talking about having a conversation and the conservatives must have crashed the wrong meetings. They look a bit pale, but they don't get out much anymore, what with the waterfall of scandals they are responsible for. I actually think Hillary gets a positive boost from this . Thanks to Anonymous.
"I actually think Hillary gets a positive boost from this.".
Ahaa...! I told you Hillary was behind the ad. She is so devious... ;>)
It's an interesting mashup, of course. But listen to what Hillary is saying: what is so "Big Motherish" about this? If this was indeed made by an Obama supporter -- which I'm beginning to doubt -- they should go to democracy school to sit in the corner.
I think, just looking at it contextually, that it is giving the Coulter/Drudge/Limbaugh line on Hillary: she wants to control your every movie -- this from the party of the warrantless wiretap and the Patriot Act with its special provisions about replacing US attorneys without Senate confirmation "for national security."
You know what I think? I think it's an instance of Nixonian "ratf**king." The tried to get us to belief that the stupid and clumsy Obama smear came from the Hillary camp, remember. Now here's a slick, Drudge-like viral and anonymous ad that perpetrates the Big Lie about Hillary -- and Obama's done it. Lucianne Goldberg, where were you when that video got uploaded to YouTube? Standing in Rove's office?
Email from Annie's fan:
"Great book, but you need to distill it down into a 60-second MTV, you know, video."
Excellent summary of the attention span of a typical Coulter or FNC follower.
What Coulter just said there freaks me out. It reminds me that the neocons truly believe, biologically maybe, the exact reverse of George Orwell's book and other subversive works like that.
She really believes that under a neocon run nation that we would be more free and not like the marching peoplebots in the ad, or in "1984".
Now if she was speaking in relation to Taliban like rule than ok maybe- if her point was that if we don't fight in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria than A-rabs will come here by on huge magic carpets and enslave the good white people of the United States. If that was her twisted point tthan it's in line with her thinking.
But if she thinks that that's what life would be like under Democrat rule (and leave jihadists out for a moment) than that's scary. Because her and her brethren would all have to think that way. Other than yes, Taliban like rule, there would exist not a more theocratic, lockstep, want-to-be-oppressive form of rule than what would be found under a hardcore neocon superChristian that martialed up a police state. Just look up James Sensenbrenner.
It's like hearing a rightwing fundie declaring Bob Dylan as a favorite artist. I think there really is something mentally wrong with these people, and as is the case, they think the same thing about me.
Sociopaths are constantly manipulative. It's something they do by instinct. That's why they use projection so much. It's a major weapon in their toolkit of deception. It has defensive qualities...it supposedly sheilds the user by deflecting all criticism onto the other guy. But it's very weak and doesn't work on anyone who recognizes the spell for what it is. They mainly use it to reinforce their own narcissism, an ego-stroking method.
The psychology of a fascist is pretty predictable. They're always sociopaths and extreme ego disorders. They always do the same things.
Does Holly ever post here anymore?I like reading her original, insightful postings. But I don't check the comments much anymore.
Glad to see you back JeremyDerifield. Missed your earthiness.
Haven't seen any Holly posts for a couple of months.
Not too much, but she has always been intermitent. I miss her too, she is as good as it gets.
Fabtemp and HuntingtonBeach said what I already said, much better. A lesson to read through the comments before posting your own.
I'ts been awhile since I read 1984, but wasn't one of it's main ideas "doublespeak"?
War is Peace. We've always been at war with Eurasia (terror). Clean Skies (pollution) and NCLB (all children left behind). If you are against the government, you're for the enemy, etc. etc.
This administration has the doublespeck aspect of the book down cold!
I have a question.
Why does everyone keep calling that commercial 1984? That was MAC commercial from the 80s, right? The one where a hammer gets thrown through the monitor? Its been a while since I read 1984, but I don't remember that being in the book. Or is it anything that resembles big brother gets called 1984?As for what Ann said, after I read 1984 I didn't want to vote for anyone ever again. I wanted rebellion!
The Macintosh was released in January, 1984. It was the hammer that smashed through the "lockstep thinking" of IBM at the time. That's why the ad is called "1984," that's when it was shown.
oh, okay. The commercial was to debut in 1984, so they went with 1984 the book as sort of a theme. That makes more sense to me.
Thanks!
Can we Please stop talking about this moron? Please? Ann Coulter deserves about as much attention as a cockroach.
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