More media attacks on Clinton: Makes "some want to drink a gallon of rat poison"
In his March 22 column, Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman wrote that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) makes "some want to drink a gallon of rat poison while lying across a railroad track." He also asserted, without evidence, that "[m]uch of the support she has comes from people who wish her husband could serve a third term." The column's subhead read, "The Big Sister we can do without," a reference to an unauthorized video produced by a self-identified supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and uploaded to YouTube in which Clinton is portrayed as a Big Brother-like figure.
On the March 21 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, while discussing former Vice President Al Gore's testimony that day before the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, of which Clinton is a member, MSNBC correspondent David Shuster claimed it was "no sort of secret" that Clinton and Gore "don't like each other very much" and noted that "there was nothing personally warm at all in [their] interaction." While showing footage of Clinton speaking at the hearing, host Chris Matthews commented, "Look at those eyes. Look at the cold eyes that she's giving him. Look at that cold look."
Later in the show, when discussing the pro-Obama YouTube video, Matthews asked Bloomberg columnist Margaret Carlson, "But is she Big Brother? Is she Big Brother?" Carlson responded that Clinton is "big mama" and likened Clinton to a "domineering mother." Matthews, who had previously commented that Clinton had a "scolding manner in terms of her public speaking," added, "She's going to tell us what to do."
Clinton is leading the polls for the Democratic presidential nomination.
From Chapman's March 22 Chicago Tribune column:
Everyone knows Hillary Rodham Clinton, and everyone has a different reaction to her. Some find her as irritating as fingernails on a chalkboard. Some find that she makes their skin crawl. Some run screaming from the room. And some want to drink a gallon of rat poison while lying across a railroad track.
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Much of the support she has comes from people who wish her husband could serve a third term. But weak nostalgia is a poor campaign theme.
From the March 21 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:
SHUSTER: It was, of course, great political theater today, Chris. And in part because, in addition to sort of the battles with [Sen. James] Inhofe [R-OK], there was Al Gore with [Sen.] Joe Lieberman [I-VT], his former running mate. Joe Lieberman yukked it up with Gore, and they reminisced and talked about what it was like back in 2000.
And then there was Hillary Clinton, and there is no sort of secret in Washington that Hillary Clinton and Al Gore don't like each other very much. And it was noteworthy, Chris, that Hillary Clinton was all business. She sort of said "welcome" to the vice president --
MATTHEWS: She doesn't like him, does she?
SHUSTER: No, and she immediately launched into talking about his ideas.
MATTHEWS: Look at those eyes. Look at the cold eyes that she's giving him. Look at that cold look.
SHUSTER: And at one point she did say, you know, "Your ideas are exciting, this proposal is very interesting," but there was nothing personally warm at all in the interaction between Hillary and Al Gore.
MATTHEWS: Gore thinks that the Clintons screwed him, they humiliated the White House, they humiliated the party because of the president's misbehavior. And Hillary got off scot-free. In fact, she benefited as a victim. She looked like the poor victim of her husband's misbehavior, whereas Gore looked like, you know, he was the bathtub ring left over by Clinton.
SHUSTER: Well, and Chris, the rivalry has gotten so intense between them that you now even have advisers and assistants to Hillary Clinton who are paying attention to Al Gore's weight under the idea that if Al Gore is losing lots of weight, then that must mean that he's getting ready for a presidential run. And the Clinton campaign fears that.
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MATTHEWS: [Panelist and radio host Michael] Smerconish, I tell you, that ad is either going tap into something that's out there, this giant monster of anti-Hillaryism that's out there in the Atlantic somewhere, waiting to come up to the surface, partially based on gender, partially on ideology, a lot to do with her personality, her scolding manner in terms of her public speaking -- something huge might be coming out, and if it doesn't come out, she's going to win.
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MATTHEWS: OK, what do you think, Margaret?
CARLSON: You know, the ad plays into -- it's not something coming, it's pre-existing, the feeling people have about Hillary, that she's overly programmed and inauthentic. You said Democrats voted for Bill Clinton despite some things.
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
CARLSON: Well, there are some people that you would expect to be for Hillary that have these reservations, and they don't want to vote for her. And that encapsulates --
MATTHEWS: But is she Big Brother? Is she Big Brother?
CARLSON: She's big mama!
MATTHEWS: Big mother --
[crosstalk]
MATTHEWS: She's going to tell us what to do.
CARLSON: A domineering mother is worse.
MATTHEWS: You are very good at vocalizing what you don't want to hear.

















Such petty nonsense. Wouldn't it be wonderful if, perhaps, these fakers actually talked about 'the issues'? This is all these guys have? Lame.
"and she immediately launched into talking about his ideas" completely ignoring his slick back hair and slits of eyes. Why would we ever want someone for president who wants to discuss ideas?
Make no mistake. We're seeing the beginning of the "swift-boating" of Hillary Clinton. If she gets the nomination, these chowderheads will attempt to crucify her.
Chowderheads are natually frightened by empowered women, like vampires and garlic.
On planet Chowderhead, all these idiotic notions of "cold eyes", "scolding manner" and "domineering" simply do not apply to a male politician possessing the same mannerisms.
I cannot agree that the term swiftboating applies to what is happening to Hillary. What happened to Kerry was a shame, afaik all the charges brought against by the Swift Boat Veterans were either false or unverifiable, it amounted to a mountain of vague FUD that was meant to confuse voters. (There is even video of one of the swift boaters on the campaign trail with Kerry in 1996, praising Kerry's service in vietnam and complimenting his strong leadership.)There is no need for an organized group of swift-boaters when it comes to Hillary. She provides the ammunitionand the media wouldn't be doing their job if they ignored it. It's her constant double-speak and manipulative tactics to confuse voters on her ever-shifting positions that gives rise to these rather juvenile comments by Mathews, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. The problem as I see it is that the mainstream media would rather attack her on this childish level because it's easy. And I suppose it's more exciting than discussing policy issues on candidates for 20 minutes. It's all about the ratings in the end.True, I'm no fan of hers. Often I hear the charge made that men are just scared of a strong and opinionated woman like Hillary. That's not it at all. What I'm scared of is a sleazy and manipulative politician that will do and say anything, anything, to get people to vote for them. And that's what Hillary is all about, this is where Hillary excels. Another thing that scares me is that Hillary will most likely win the democratic nomination; not because she is the right candidate but because she is the master of politicians. And that will be a huge huge mistake for the democratic party. Come November 2008 and if Hillary's name is on the voting machine, this will not be like voting for Kerry in 2004 when many of us in the democratic party said, "well, that's our only choice." The master of sleaze will not get my vote.
There he goes again: "Falwell's Hillary/Devil Comment Was 'Tongue-in-Cheek'"
Katy Beekman ~ DiversityInc
Katy, Falwell's comment misses the political essence of his problem: Lucifer is already registered as a Repugnant, and has formed an exploratory committee.
"[m]uch of the support she has comes from people who wish her husband could serve a third term
I don't know about "much of her support" BUT that's the ONLY reason I'd vote for her ;-)
Any reason will do! Couldya send her a few $$ to help her get on the ticket?
Steve Chapman is a semi-closeted reactionary who tries to pass himself off as a libertarian. Chapman defended Sen. Joe McCarthy in an infamous column and writes a lot of the more extreme unsigned editorials over there (kinda like Fred Hyatt at the WaPo).
It's amazing to me that so many want to pick apart and ridicule Hillary Clinton's demeanor when we currently have a President who can barely speak fluent English.
My guess is that once he's out of office, Puddinhead George will disappear down the GOP memory hole.
And Chris Matthews is a Big Bother.
Matthews is just an amazing piece of filth, isn't he?
What a disgrace to America.
I'm sure this will sound callous, and illiberal, but would these clowns volunteer to show the way, since they seem so sensitive to that fingernails-on-blackboard voice, and the "domineering mother" approach?
Har! Conley. They're not really "walking the walk", are they?
Kinda wish they would drink the koolaid. Please, righties, Jonestown is uninhabited. Take the trip, do ya worlds of good.
Dear Steve Chapman:
"Some people" will also be voting for Hillary Clinton to be our next president, and those "some people" will probably constitute the majority in 2008.
So, if the Supreme Court doesn't "appoint" another Republican, Hillary will be our next president.
Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman wrote that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) makes 'some want to drink a gallon of rat poison while lying across a railroad track.'"
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Go right ahead, Stevie, I doubt you'll be missed.
Domineering Mother???...I think that old cow Babs Bush has the exclusive rights...
and by all means do drink away!
PDrum CA