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March 22, 2007 9:57 pm ET
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On the March 22 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh suggested that the presidential campaign of former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) intentionally "leak[ed]" false information -- that Edwards would "suspend" his campaign because his wife's cancer had recurred -- to Politico reporter Ben Smith in order "to jump-start the campaign." At a press conference earlier the same day, Edwards announced that his wife, Elizabeth, had been told that she has Stage IV metastatic breast cancer, but that the Edwards campaign would continue. Smith incorrectly claimed that Edwards would announce the "suspen[sion]" of his campaign in a March 22 weblog post on Politico.com. Referring to that post, Limbaugh stated that "this business about" Edwards announcing that he will continue his presidential bid "makes me think that the leak that was planted today was purposely wrong to create surprise." Limbaugh reiterated that the inaccurate leak "[m]ay have been done on purpose."

Smith identified the source for his incorrect blog post only as "an Edwards friend." The Associated Press reported: "Quoting but not identifying 'an Edwards friend' as his source, Smith reported" one hour before Edwards' press conference "that Edwards was suspending his campaign and may drop out completely because of his wife's cancer." Smith explained further in a separate posting, "How the Politico Got it Wrong":

A little after 10 a.m., I put out feelers to people in Edwards' circle who weren't holed up in Raleigh, people I thought might be willing to speak freely. I instant-messaged one source, who didn't respond, and called another, who pled ignorance. I sent a chatty, half-hearted e-mail to a third, someone who speaks to Edwards, and who e-mailed me back instantly with a phone number.

I called, and the source spoke with authority and detail about the recurrence of Elizabeth's cancer, which would require aggressive and debilitating treatment. The source said Edwards had said he would be forced to suspend his campaign, though there was some discussion of how exactly to describe that hiatus publicly, and that he might drop out of the race.

At 11:08, I e-mailed my editor, Bill Nichols, that I had the story.

"How solid is this?" he e-mailed back, and I called him to say that it was from a good source, who was confident and had details.

With that level of confidence, I posted the item to my blog. The Politico put it on our front page, Matt Drudge headlined it with a siren, and I almost instantly spoke to reporters from three radio shows, telling them what I knew: that a source had told me Edwards would suspend his campaign.

Meanwhile, Edwards aides were, as I immediately wrote in an update to the original item, "pushing back very hard."

At 11:28, Edwards spokeswoman Kate Bedingfield e-mailed me, under the heading, "Just so you know."

"Anything you are getting from someone claiming to know right now is not true," she wrote. "Anyone claiming to know something right now is making it up. There is no information from this campaign until John and Elizabeth speak at noon."

I added her e-mail to my original blog item, but I didn't change the headline, which read, "Edwards to Suspend Campaign."

Later in the program, Limbaugh stated: "The left-wing blogs are going to be all over this," by noting that "Limbaugh said that the Edwards campaign lied to The Politico." Limbaugh continued: "You know, in public relations and politics, just what is a lie and what isn't? It's all a game."

From the March 22 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: We will get to your phone calls here in a jiffy, folks, but first, three sound bites here. Two from John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards, and then one from [Newsweek chief political correspondent] Howard Fineman.

Now, I made mention mere moments ago that the new website Politico has broken two scoops this week, both proving to be untrue. The first was that [Attorney General] Alberto Gonzales is going to quit and that the White House had asked Republicans out there to find potential replacements. The second one was just this morning, that Edwards was going to suspend the campaign. And just the opposite happened.

Now, I'm going to play these two bites. Edwards and -- John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards to set up Howard Fineman, who commented on this later, because it provides perhaps a little insight into what happened.

Ben Smith is the blogger at The Politico who broke the story this morning that Edwards is going to suspend the campaign. He's got egg all over his face, and he's just put a post on his blog. "Hey, look, I talked to a source really close to 'em, and the source said they were going to suspend the campaign. And, you know, we were astounded. We were shocked by this. We apologize for this, but I trust this source. I'm not going to reveal the source's identity, but this source has never gotten anything like this wrong."

So you'll hear Howard Fineman's bite, and it might give you some insight here into what went on. Here, first, is Senator Edwards himself responding to a question, "What does this mean for your campaign? Are you going to suspend any activities, fundraising, travel?"

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LIMBAUGH: Now, Howard Fineman -- I played those two bites to set this up. This is Howard Fineman on PMSNBC [sic] after the announcement that Elizabeth Edwards' cancer has returned but that Senator Edwards will continue his presidential campaign. This is Howard Fineman to Chris Matthews [host of MSNBC's Hardball].

FINEMAN [audio clip]: I think this is somewhat of a surprise. I think there were some websites here in Washington that were predicting that he would suspend or even drop out. That turned out not to be the case. This is an ongoing story, and this is a metaphor for how they want to fight for the country. They're willing to take the public-relations risk of analogizing their own family situation and the bravery that they've shown and the guts that they've shown to the kind of leadership that they want to offer the county. That's pretty bold, but that's the world that we live in now, Chris, where people's personal lives are analogized to their political beings. And that's what we're seeing with the Edwardses. I thought that was -- looked at politically -- diagnosed, if you will, politically, that was a 10-strike of a press conference. They showed guts. It was nothing short of remarkable and somewhat unexpected, and it's always great when something unexpected happens around here.

LIMBAUGH: Yes, it is great when something unexpected -- it's fabulous when there's a surprise. Isn't it sort of boring when we find -- what, Mr. Snerdly? Of course I know how that sounds. Of course I know. It sounds slavish. It sounds absolutely slavish.

But lookit -- he's right. There's been a -- people are sharing -- in the old days, this announcement would not have been public, and it certainly wouldn't have been tied to a campaign. It's a different era now. This is -- I'm telling you, this is to jump-start the campaign. This is to see if it'll jump-start the campaign. And we'll find out the next three or four days or whatever, week, if that happens.

But this business about this being a surprise makes me think that the leak that was planted today was purposely wrong to create surprise, to make sure everybody thought, "Oh, we know what's coming." And then have it blown away. The campaign's -- "Ooh, the campaign's going to go on. Oh, well, we thought it was going to be suspended."

You know, we all get all these press releases in advance of the State of the Union address. We all know what's going to be said before it airs. There's no surprises. This was a surprise. May have been done on purpose.

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LIMBAUGH: The whole crew on the other side of the glass, apoplectic at a comment I just made before the break. And the comment about which they are apoplectic is when I responded to Howard Fineman. Howard Fineman, talking about how everybody was expecting Edwards to announce his campaign was going to be suspended because of a report on the Politico website this morning that that was the case. And he went on to say, "This was a total surprise. It was a 100 percent, total surprise." And I, reacting to that, said, "Yeah, it was a total surprise. And I wouldn't be surprised if whoever the source is purposely leaked something not true to The Politico in order to set up the surprise."

Because Fineman's right -- what good's watching a press conference when you know what's going to happen? Every time there's a press conference of something -- be it a presidential press conference, State of the Union address -- there's always the text of the speech or whatever before it goes out. Other than a, you know, a news conference, which is ad-libbed, you don't know what the questions are going to be. But, you know, we all know what's going to happen before it happens. That's the way public relations works.

Then all of a sudden, they set this up. This was a giant surprise, and everybody in Washington -- Fineman was talking about it -- everybody, CBS. CBS broke into programming at 11 o'clock when the Politico thing hit to announce that the Edwards campaign was going to be suspended. Now everybody in Washington and in the drive-by media circles is wondering how the hell this happened. Because it's so unusual. When something leaks from a source close to the campaign about what's going to be at a press conference, that's generally what happens.

Now, I have here the latest blog from Ben Smith at The Politico. I'm going to read it to you. It's called "Getting It Wrong."

"A single, confident source close to John Edwards told me this morning that Edwards was suspending his campaign, and I posted it to the blog at 11:06. My source and I were wrong. The source, whose anonymity I agreed to respect, spoke of the kind of grim prognosis Elizabeth Edwards herself just described hearing before a second round of tests came back. I trusted the source, somebody I've known for several years, and who has always been reliable. And with less than an hour before Edwards was to announce, I unwisely wrote the item without getting a second source. When the campaign pushed back harder than I'd expected, I added that information to the original item, but didn't undo the damage. My apologies to our readers for passing on bad information."

Is it not reasonable to think that perhaps the source purposely passed on something just to set up the surprise that Howard Fineman, drive-by media extraordinaire, thinks is just jolly? Thinks this is great, that something that -- we love surprises in these things.

This is not a criticism. This is -- look, this is P.R. This is how you play the media. People on the other side of the glass -- "I can't believe it. The left-wing blogs are going to be all over this. Limbaugh said that the Edwards campaign lied to The Politico." [inaudible] You know, in public relations and politics, just what is a lie and what isn't? It's all a game.

I want to go back and I want you to listen to this Howard Fineman bit one more time, and I want to ax [sic] you as you listen to this if there's something about it -- and I referred to it as "slavish" -- but is there something else about this that strikes you?

Now, let me put this in context. This is Howard Fineman reacting to the news he's just learned in a press conference with John and Elizabeth Edwards that she has incurable cancer. It has spread to the bones. It is Stage Four. Life expectancy here -- survival rate of five years, 20 percent. Survivable rate of five years. She's got -- cancer's treatable, but -- we've all just heard this press conference, essentially saying that she's dying and Edwards is going to keep the campaign going. She's going to be part of it.

See if there's anything that jumps out about -- there's not a secret sentence here that will give it away. There's not a single -- I'm not asking you to listen for something specific. Just the whole bite, and the concept and the tone of it. Is there something here that sort of makes you curious, raises red flags or whatever? Here it is.

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    • Author by jjlist (March 22, 2007 10:10 pm ET)
         

      Rush is "irrelevant".

      That was so right on,  Arnold. I know why so many ditto heads listen to Rush. They cant think for them selves. When anything happens they have to wait for Rush to tell them what to think. It's one of the biggest reasons liberal talk radio is not nearly as successfull. Liberals are independant thinkers and dont have to rely on others to tell them what their opinions are. I find comfort in the fact that a majority of americans do not agree with republican conservatives.

      This latest rant goes right along with his uncaring despicable MJ Fox comments

       

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      • Author by deeznuts (March 22, 2007 10:25 pm ET)
           

        Liberals are independant thinkers and dont have to rely on others to tell them what their opinions are.

        Unfortunately, that's the same reason why we suck at organizing and staying on message like the know-nothings on the Right. 

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        • Author by raincntry (March 23, 2007 10:21 am ET)
             

          Ahh, the blessing and curse of self determination.  The Democratic Party will always have this problem because it casts its self at "Big Tent" D's.

           

          Still, I'd rather have my own thoughts on subjects than be a pandering fool. 

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      • Author by harley (March 23, 2007 10:32 am ET)
           

        This is more proof that the GOPigs are pro-death and pro-disease and have ZERO compassion for the living.  They hate our troops, they insist they die for the cause of their party, and demand the blood of US troops to save herr dubyah's face.  GOPigs are despicable and lowly.

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      • Author by fawltylogic (March 24, 2007 3:43 pm ET)
           

        No he's NOT irrelevant. Just look at this "Internet poll sponsored by Newsmax": [link to www.newsmax.com] could not POSSIBLY be off the mark. 

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        • Author by fawltylogic (March 24, 2007 3:45 pm ET)
             

          OK, so that was New Gingrich, and not about Rush. I don't know why I thought of it when I read this article. Must be that they're both big fat liars. :D

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    • Author by deeznuts (March 22, 2007 10:23 pm ET)
         

      There isn't enough tinfoil in the world to make a hat big enough for that fat head.

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    • Author by njguy93 (March 22, 2007 10:31 pm ET)
         

      Limbaugh knows exactly what he is doing.  He is putting this baseless misinformation out there with the intent to rally the knuckle-draggers who listen to his fraudulent radio propoganda.  He reminds me of a cult leader who has a grip on his followers and once he is alone he laughs at them while thinking about the devotion they show to him.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by AmericanMutt (March 22, 2007 10:33 pm ET)
         

      no Flush, Ben is just always wrong, and seems to like it that way

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    • Author by njguy93 (March 22, 2007 10:35 pm ET)
         

      Limbaugh hedges his bets.  We saw that after the 2006 Mid-term elections.  He spoke out against Republicans, saying that he was tired of carrying water for them.  He wanted to see if the troglodyte sheep who listen to his propoganda were going to abandon him, and he knew many Republicans were angry with George Bush and the Republicans in Congress.  He probably assumed that the troglodytes who listened to him would continue listening to him anyway after he basically told them that he lied to them on the air for years, and he was right.  He hedged to make sure the day after the election, but then he found out that his drooling, knuckle-dragging audience was too dumb to realize so he went back to his usual pre-election lying and whoring.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by wookie (March 22, 2007 10:38 pm ET)
         

      This is another example of why Rush is so obnoxious. He and Coulter will no doubt take lots of swipes at Edwards and his wife on the basis of standing up to "political victims".

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    • Author by Romario (March 22, 2007 11:02 pm ET)
         

      Druggie Limbaugh is boring and predictable.

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    • Author by ldoren1626 (March 22, 2007 11:03 pm ET)
         

      I listened to the show...MMFA edited a lot of what Rush said.

      This is a bunch of dissent over nothing.

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      • Author by roundhouse (March 23, 2007 7:24 am ET)
           

        Sounds the same as when I heard this piece Thursday on my drive home from work at around 1:30 pm est.

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      • Author by dave_chicago (March 23, 2007 12:01 pm ET)
           

        "MMFA edited a lot of what Rush said."

        Such as, "Everything I just told you was a lie"?

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      • Author by AmericanMutt (March 23, 2007 12:07 pm ET)
           

        support your contention that anything 'edited out' would have made a difference in how stupid and predictable his moronic rant(s) is(are).

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      • Author by open_mind (March 23, 2007 12:12 pm ET)
           

        What was "edited out"?  Please be specific and back up your claims.  This is a pretty serious charge.  You shouldn't make it, if you cannot back it up.

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        • Author by bittermarv (March 23, 2007 2:58 pm ET)
             

          Did you forget to have your morning coffee or something?  You just said

          This is a pretty serious charge.  You shouldn't make it, if you cannot back it up.

          to a right winger.

          Where's your head, dude?

          =)

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    • Author by fatty (March 22, 2007 11:06 pm ET)
         

      Hard to "edit"60 straight lines of Rush's own words. 

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (March 22, 2007 11:30 pm ET)
           

        I don't see how this could have been a calculated move by the Edwards camp ("We're quitting" isn't a good soundbite even if retracted) nor from Politico (obvious publicity for Edwards), I would have to guess it was just the media jumping on their usual unreliable sources.

        Of course, Rush and his clones will end up spinning it as a nefarious ploy by Edwards, but they're sort of like those people who cheat on their significant others who are constantly accusing them of cheating.They can't imagine that everyone's not as shameless as themselves.

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      • Author by tabkhan (March 22, 2007 11:59 pm ET)
           

        Dontchaknow!

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      • Author by conleytgwinn (March 23, 2007 4:51 am ET)
           

        Nah - they just skipped the commercials.

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    • Author by tabkhan (March 22, 2007 11:57 pm ET)
         

      It's a measure of how depraved and craven Limbaugh and his fellow America Haters become. There is nothing these people will not say, nothing they will not invent. Limbaugh's sadistic rant against Michael J. Fox was Rush's personal Schiavo Moment, the moment when reasonable people turn their back in disgust. He's increasingly irrelevant, though I thank MMFA for tracking him and his lunatic fellow travelers.

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    • Author by rowlndfamily8007 (March 23, 2007 1:17 am ET)
         

      Rush Limburger???...The DRUG addict???....I thought he was in prison!

       

      PDrum CA 

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    • Author by iflurry8094 (March 23, 2007 2:40 am ET)
         

      This situation seems like the perfect Catch-22. If Edward suspends his campaign, he's doing it for political reasons. If he doesn't, he's being a typical lib who puts politics above family values.

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      • Author by skye12 (March 23, 2007 8:16 am ET)
           

        But you have to admit, it's a political master stroke if you can use your wife's cancer to jump-start your campaign! Newt Gingrich had the same opportunity and totally fumbled! (Pardon the sarcasm, I haven't finished my coffee.)

         

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        • Author by bittermarv (March 23, 2007 3:00 pm ET)
             

          That's a little ugly, don't you think?  While I don't know the Edwards personally, I'd bet my next paycheck that he would gladly give up a run for the Presidency if it guaranteed his wife's good health.

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      • Author by tommy (March 23, 2007 12:36 pm ET)
           

        Just how would "suspending his campaign"  be done for political reasons?

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        • Author by bingvangorden (March 23, 2007 1:50 pm ET)
             

          It's a testament as to how far some people will go to slander someone. Unfortunately their are people out there who lap it up. I believe they are called "dittoheads."

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          • Author by tommy (March 23, 2007 2:17 pm ET)
               

            Until someone can prove that Edwards manipulated this leaking of his "suspending his campaign" to get maximum press, all the while knowing he was not going to suspend it - then I give Edwards and his wife the benefit of the doubt on this one.  

            And even if he did leak wrong information intentionally, on a scale of 1-10 importance, it still ranks about a -50 for me........it's a one day story at best.  

            All this microscopic evaluation of these political campaigns is way too premature anyway, nobody is really paying attention and nobody really cares at this point.

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        • Author by iflurry8094 (March 23, 2007 5:13 pm ET)
             

          Just how would "suspending his campaign"  be done for political reasons?

          I don't know, I can't follow Limbaugh Logic. 

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    • Author by manndan (March 23, 2007 7:04 am ET)
         

      Once again, Worst Person in the World.

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    • Author by moe (March 23, 2007 8:22 am ET)
         

      "You know, in public relations and politics, just what is a lie and what isn't? It's all a game." - Rush Limbaugh

      Do you really need to know more about comedian Rush Limbaaaagh? 

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    • Author by nerzog (March 23, 2007 9:36 am ET)
         

      Once again, Pigboy does his masters' bidding brilliantly.  He, with the help of his fellow Troglodyte Liars, is laying the foundation for the GOP smear campaign in 08.  They have fabricated phony paradigms for each of the likely Democratic nominees:  Hillary is a Stalinist bitch...Obama is the Magic Negro who smokes and belongs to a cult...Edwards is the empty-headed "Breck Girl" who callously uses his wife's illness to score political points.

      Be sure that these themes will be expanded appropriately depending on who is ahead in the polls.

      Meanwhile, their President is driving the country off a cliff. 

       

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    • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 9:56 am ET)
         

      So driving into work this morning, listening to local drivetime talk radio in North Carolina (I live in Chapel Hill) you wouldn't believe the folks from North Carolina calling into this show. The 2 hosts of the morning show were asking people what they thought about Edwards talking about Elizabeth's cancer and what they thought this meant for his campaign. Roughly 9 out of 10 of the first callers said that they thought that she doesn't have cancer, and that Edwards is using this as a political ploy to get ahead in his '08 presidential bid. Why would someone use cancer as a ploy? I can't even believe people would think like that.

      The other popular comment this morning was how just about everyone thought that he should just drop out, because he's not going to win anyway, and that to drag his wife through this whole thing is just inconceivable (even though she insists on him going forward with this).

      Then again, there are a lot of Rush fans in this area of the country. I know folks that I work with that quote him, chapter and verse on a daily basis. It's kind of scary.

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    • Author by emwmedia (March 23, 2007 11:17 am ET)
         

      ~ Um, I'd listen to that again...   Limbaugh certainly does "hedge" his bets on said comment (I was shaking my head at that too, as was his staff, apparently), saying he'd catch a lot of heat for it when, in this case, he's simply "reacting" (seems to work here) to an obvious advance error in reporting and fairly surveying the machinations of the Washington scene/PR biz (thus, "the hedge")--more personal, tragic stories aside.   I guess to assume that any campaign or respective PR flacks are somehow suddenly pure and free from any scrutiny would be the dumber hedge here. Take your pick. More importantly, apart from that, Limbaugh was very respectful in tone and treatment of The Edwards on yesterday's program (he refrained from using the usual nickname), enough that I and another liberal-minded person took note.      I think the subsequent treatment of such "opinion" might be similar to, I don't know, someone a) writing a neo-racist piece in The LA Times skewering both whites and blacks; b) a media figure fairly commenting on the ridiculousness/offensiveness of such; c) only to have a media watchdog organization scrutinize the latter and NOT the former.   What's odd here is that MM's reporting on this particular "kerfuffle" is actually pretty good and comprehensive in its basic presentation of the facts, so hats off to you. That, and Limbaugh's streams are no longer available for free on his website for anyone who wants to check what's being said then reported on, etc. So MM is performing an add'l service, as discomforting as that may seem.     I may be wrong on certain points here, but I do feel comfortable enough to share them with the Edwards' campaign, for whom, I am a supporter. Put another way, God forbid a world without opinion where reporting fails to do its job. Especially where family friends and sources got it wrong.

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    • Author by jfrivera9336 (March 23, 2007 11:34 am ET)
         

      Rush is on a role. The next big story he'll push is that the cancer is a fiction to score political points. Every target that's been "Limbaughed" should wear it as a badge of courage. Lord knows, he has NO mirrors in his house. Scares himself to death.

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      • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 11:36 am ET)
           

        People who live in North Carolina are already doing this. See my previous post about what I heard driving to work this morning.

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        • Author by worrierking (March 23, 2007 11:45 am ET)
             

          It doesn't surprise me that there are that many ignorant people around. I'm just hoping that they might have screened out some rational people.

          I'm convinced that the only medical condition that can stir compassion in the heart of a con is the persistent vegetive state.

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        • Author by tommy (March 23, 2007 12:55 pm ET)
             

          No reasonable person doubts that Mrs. Edwards has cancer....any nut that would think that is sp steeped in their hatred for their political opponent, they are hopeless.  To give them even a mention is ridiculous.

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          • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 2:05 pm ET)
               

            While this may be true, again, 9 out of 10 people I heard this morning were talking about how they thought that this was a ploy, and a plot by Edwards to gain sympathy so that we could get elected. And bear in mind, this is a morning show that has a very bi-partisan tilt actually (local show) when it comes to politics. This was the bulk of calls that they were getting, and the 2 hosts couldn't believe what they were hearing. It was pretty amazing to me as well, but honetly, people in North Carolina HATE John Edwards. I think it goes back to when he was elected to the Senate, he almost immediately started running for President in 2004 (even though he was elected in 1998 to the Senate), and I also think people hate him because he was a trial lawyer, which is a shame, because he appears to be a very honorable, and decent person as far as I can tell. His poverty center is doing great work in the Southeast.

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            • Author by bittermarv (March 23, 2007 3:05 pm ET)
                 

              We can only hope that the "9 out of 10" callers to that radio program you listened to were a self-selected sampling, further filtered by a show producer, to promote a message desirable by the station programmer.  Not many thoughtful, considerate, caring liberals listen to hate radio.  (Well, not here where I live anyway.  In this area, we have a number of alternative choices of talk radio.)

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              • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 3:42 pm ET)
                   

                That's the thing is that this show is not what I would call hate radio at all. In the amount of talk radio that I listen to (I spend a lot of time on the road, and listen to a lot of different stuff), this morning show is pretty darn even handed. For instance, earlier this year, during the election cycle here in NC, they had on the guys running for Congress in the immediate listening area, and they had an honest go God debate on the air. It was good radio. And most of the time, I wouldn't really consider either of the hosts conservative or liberal (though at times they do espouse both ideaologies, but more from a perspective of that is just how they think as opposed to parroting either party line of things). I do chalk it up to the area where this show is broadcast from being highly conservative (Greensboro and outlying areas near it), and that people in NC really, and truly HATE (all capitals) John Edwards, for really no good reason at all.

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    • Author by pete bogs (March 23, 2007 11:37 am ET)
         

      scum... Limbaugh is and will always be scum... politicizing Edwards' cancer... the man has no shame!

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (March 23, 2007 12:48 pm ET)
         

      Rush was questioning the uptick to the announcement, not that Elizabeth has cancer. Before any of this was discussed, he announced that Edwards was going to have a press conference, that the cancer was back...and mentioned how terrible and senseless something like cancer affiliction is.

       You guys don't want to question at all why ALL citeable sources had Edwards either suspending or idling his campaign before the actual announcement?

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      • Author by bingvangorden (March 23, 2007 1:48 pm ET)
           

        Because the idea someone would use their spouse's cancer for political gain is so reprehensible it defies logical discourse. We can pontificate until the cows come home as to who has what motives but ultimately it doesn't matter. What I find interesting is that this is another example of cons dreaming up the most horrendous assumptions about political rivals, yet I suspect that it is they who would engage in these actions without a thought. By blaming liberals for doing something like this, they can justify it for themselves. Of course they condemn the liberal, who most likely is not engaging in the accusation du jour, but when one of their own does it it's justified. I guess what I am trying to say is to even suggest that Edwards is doing something like that has to come from a mind so cynical they'd do it themselves if it benefited them. No decent human being would use his wife's cancer for political gain and there is absolutely nothing, nothing, in Edwards past that would suggest he would. Ergo making this ridiculous claim in order to fuel juvenile cynicism is the real disgrace.Everyday I have a new reason to despise conservatives.

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      • Author by bittermarv (March 23, 2007 3:09 pm ET)
           

        The reason is that Edwards had earlier said that the only thing that would keep him from running was a downturn in his wife's health.

        It sounds as though when they got the latest news that SHE is the one who insisted he continue to run, in part because she feels that while she needs her husband, the country needs him more.  It's a very nice sentiment.

        So the early speculation made a lot of people nod their heads.  Rush's speculation makes people punch their radios.  I've really come to think the guy has no redeeming qualities.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (March 23, 2007 2:11 pm ET)
         

      John Edwards politicized this issue FIRST. He went on TV, made the announcement about his wife, THEN began to speak about his presidential campaign. He could've released a statement. He could've ended the press conference by merely mentioning there is no change in plans for his campaign at this time. But his announcement WAS a political one. Don't be naive just because you hate Rush....your complaints will begin to fall on deaf ears if you're not genuine and accurate every time.

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      • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 2:28 pm ET)
           

        And if he had kept this a secret? You guys would have ripped into him for that as well.

        His wife having cancer again is a major issue for his campaign, and for his bid for the presidency, because the capaign trail is tough, long hours, and so on and so forth. DId you even watch the announcement? He and his wife spoke about what she had, and that they, together, decided that it would be best if he continued to run. This is not politicizing her announcement, this is bringing the facts to light, and being honest about what is going on in their personal lives, and how it may, or may not affect his bid for the presidency. And since a candidate's personal life has become such a hot topic of discussion, Edwards did the right thing in making this announcement.

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      • Author by magnolialover (March 23, 2007 2:29 pm ET)
           

        Oh, and one more thing. Pretty much any hate that Rush gets he deserves it. I've never seen anyone deserve an arse whipping from karma more than Rush, OK, maybe Savage.

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      • Author by worrierking (March 23, 2007 2:29 pm ET)
           

        Oh, our complaints will BEGIN to fall on deaf ears if we continue?

        Do you think that anything we have to say will ever or has ever penetrated the minds of Rush's ditto heads?

        John & Elizabeth Edwards are national figures and the only way they could have handled this was with a press conference. They showed us that although they received terrible news, they'll go on with their lives. They should have earned the respect of people like Limbaugh, instead his followers think it's a political ploy.

        But then how would Limbaugh know how he would respond to a situation like this? He's never made a commitment to another human being in his life, I doubt he'll start now.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (March 23, 2007 2:38 pm ET)
         

      Edwards is a political man, he's a political candidate, he made a political announcement on national TV. You get commentary on that kind of thing. If you disagree with what Rush said, OK. Don't say he's some kind of evil for even bringing it up though.

      Again, nobody has dealt with the fact that there were a ton of liberal media activists who had Edwards suspending or idling. Wasn't that the point of what Rush was saying? He wasn't talking about the announcement..he was asking WHY everyone was saying suspension or idle before the conference.

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      • Author by worrierking (March 23, 2007 2:47 pm ET)
           

        Where are the links for your claim that there were "a ton of liberal media activists who had Edwards suspending or idling"?

        This thread concern's Limbaugh's implication that the Edwards camp "leaked false information to Politico".

        I wasn't aware that Politico was a liberal website.

        And since Mr. & Mrs. Edwards decided to make an announcement at a press conference why would they leak false information ?

        I know they had other things on their minds besides trying to deceive some in the media.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (March 23, 2007 3:18 pm ET)
         

      Worrier, your post is fantastic. You ask me to cite my sources, even though I was repeating information that MMfA posted, and then you say you "know" what the Edwards' had on their minds. Hilarious.

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      • Author by worrierking (March 23, 2007 3:29 pm ET)
           

        Fineman said there were some sites which said he was going to withdrawal. He didn't say they were liberal sites. YOU said that.

        Maybe I misspoke when I said that "I know what" they had on their minds. I don't know, but i have a pretty good idea.

        I'm assuming that Mr. & Mrs. Edwards would have felt the same way that my wife and I felt when we got the same news long ago.

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    • Author by bingvangorden (March 23, 2007 5:40 pm ET)
         

      The thing is, in a polite society, in civil discourse, no one would suggest that Edwards was using his wife's announcement to further his politics. And liberals are the one's blamed for civility's decline.

      It may be true but we'll never know because we're not mind readers so what is the point of ruminating and assuming the worst of people? There is none. It's the politics of personal destruction. All the cons have is accusations and innuendo. Anything to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I'd lump Carville and Begala in this crowd too so it isn't all cons. But it seems the right wing pundits make a living off of this very kind of garbage.

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    • Author by mghamma (March 24, 2007 4:07 am ET)
         

      "MMFA edited a lot of what Rush said"? What are you bitching about? Seems to me that you, and Rush, were saved a lot of embarassment by editing what he said. I've listened to Rush,and Ingraham,and O'reilly, and Coulter, and Hannity. If these people represent what you and other conservatives think, then you should be embarrassed. You all have the mentality of spoiled children, and should definately not be the majority. Just look at how the last 6+ years turned out.

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    • Author by plwalsh8324 (March 24, 2007 11:08 am ET)
         

      Thank God Media Matters edited this material! (The editors used the proper elipses for those who don't know the convention).

      Limbaugh has become so tedious and predictable it is no wonder that his ratings are falling and his median audience is now white men of retirement age, who presumably have nothing better to do. Here he spins a pointless, trivial speculation into yet another long-winded, soggy attempt to question the motives of liberals. How daring and original.

      Limbaugh is grasping at straws here. He is losing his capacity to shock and sounds more and more like the dying bombast of a collapsing regime after its credibility has gone. Remember, back in the '80s, those last apologists for the Soviet Union? There is a distinct similarity in the tortured logic and petulant tone.

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    • Author by ajwan (March 25, 2007 7:37 am ET)
         

      Does this mean if Rush gets cancer we get to say he got cancer to boost his ratings? How about if he gets re-addicted to Oxycotin and loses his  hearing again - that also would  be all for ratings, right?

      Damn, what a fool.

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