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Echoing White House, Kristol attacked Pelosi for trip to Syria, which GOP-led delegation also visited

April 01, 2007 2:55 pm ET

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On the April 1 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday, Weekly Standard editor and Fox News contributor Bill Kristol repeated an attack by the White House on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for planning to go to Syria while her bipartisan delegation is traveling in the Middle East this week. But, as the weblog Think Progress reported on March 30, a Republican-led congressional delegation is also visiting Syria, a trip that the White House has apparently not criticized similarly. Kristol did not mention the reported Republican-led trip to Syria, much less the inconsistency in the White House's criticism of Pelosi's trip and its silence on the Republican-led trip.

On April 1, the Associated Press reported that a delegation of House members including Reps. Frank Wolf (R-VA), Rep. Joe Pitts (R-PA), and Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-AL) had met with Syrian President Bashar Assad, two days before Pelosi's planned meeting.

From Fox News Sunday's April 1 panel discussion:

KRISTOL: Nancy Pelosi, having undercut our troops in the field, is now going off to see -- to Syria to pay her respects to Bashar Assad, who's allowing terrorists to come across the [Iraqi] border to kill American troops.

Neither of the other Fox News Sunday panelists -- National Public Radio's Mara Liasson and Fox News Washington bureau managing editor Brit Hume -- nor host Chris Wallace noted the inconsistency between the White House's and Kristol's criticism of Pelosi and their silence on the GOP congressional trip.

The New York Times reported on March 31:

A planned visit to Syria next week by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drew criticism on Friday from the White House, which accused the Democratic Congressional leader of failing to heed the administration's admonitions against travel to Damascus.

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"We don't think it's a good idea," said the White House deputy press secretary, Dana Perino, of the Congressional visit. "We think that someone should take a step back and think about the message that it sends."

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In an interview Friday, [Pelosi spokesman Brendan] Daly said a separate group of Republicans, including Representatives Frank R. Wolf of Virginia, Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania and Robert B. Aderholt of Alabama, also was visiting Syria.

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    • Author by njguy93 (April 01, 2007 3:10 pm ET)
         

      Funny how these people always develop selective amnesia when it comes to certain things. Another example is the troglodytes attacking John Kerry for having a privileged childhood when George Bush had an extremely privileged childhood growing up.

      THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com

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      • Author by lemoc (April 02, 2007 2:43 pm ET)
           

        #1 qualification for becoming President:  Having had a job at some time in the candidate's past.  This means working with your hands and breaking a sweat--the amount of time open to debate--puts people on a street level, gives perspective that will stay with them through life.

        With that, an early adult life where they were totally on their own, with no trust fund or other umbillicul cord.

        I know that sounds rather idealistic;  I just lean toward people who have faced risk in their lives and survived.  No substitute for it, and sadly lacking in so many.

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        • Author by Pragmatic Liberal (April 02, 2007 3:21 pm ET)
             

          When you are a trust-fund kiddie like Bush II, there is no such thing as risk.

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    • Author by snoopy (April 01, 2007 3:22 pm ET)
         

      Why don't they just come out and say that they only restricted Democrats from travelling, cause well, letting the leaders of the house and Senate know what is going on in Syria would undermine the will of the republik party.

      Oh, and where is the faux rage over this latest bungle of sensative data under the Bush administation watch?

      http://rawstory.com/news/2007/National_Nuclear_Security_Agency_cant_account_0401.html

      If Clinton were still president you'd be darned skippy we'd hear about how it was his fault...

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    • Author by leatherhelmet (April 01, 2007 3:33 pm ET)
         

      What a brilliant move by Pelosi. Islamists have so much respect for women. I'm sure they will listen to her every word.

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      • Author by snoopy (April 01, 2007 3:42 pm ET)
           

        That would explain why Bush had Condi meeting with middle east leaders, right?

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      • Author by harley (April 01, 2007 3:49 pm ET)
           

        Yet another similarity between GOPigs and Islamists.  Thanks, Leatherhelmet!!!!

         

         

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      • Author by Cletus (April 01, 2007 4:01 pm ET)
           

        Mr. Leatherhelmet,

             They have plastic ones these days which I understand work much better.

        In God We Trust,

        Teddy 

         

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      • Author by mb (April 01, 2007 4:21 pm ET)
           

        Assad is an Islamist????   Do a little research for yourself please I beg you, its embarrassing.  Bashir's father battled the muslim brotherhoood for years.  The father was a Baathist, a former defense minister,  a military man.  His power did not come from "Islamists", in fact he battled the brotherhood and other religious fundies. After an assassination attempt on his life by the brotherhood his father declared war on them.  The brotherhood made the mistake of staging an uprising in a city (Hama) and declaring the city under their command.  Assad leveled the entire city with artillery, killing over 20,000 in the 80's.  The entire city was ringed by the military,  leveled and then cleared by soldiers.  Thousands were arrested and later executed. (the neo-cons dream of such power)

         

            The Assad govt is considered secular ( the CIA world fact book labels his govt as "authoritarian, military dominated").  He is Allawite, a shia sect, but his wife is Sunni (75% of pop. is Sunni).  That should tell you right there that he is not an religious extremist.  His wife is highly educated as well.  The ISG believed that diplomacy could be sucessful in divesting Bashir from Hezbollah and other terrorist groups.  Of course he wants the Golan Heights back.  

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        • Author by draftedin68 (April 01, 2007 7:15 pm ET)
             

           

          Facts, Facts, Facts!

          Facts?   We don' need no stinkin' facts!

          Come to think of it, Billy's rather fond of pulling facts from his stinky place, isn't he?

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        • Author by leatherhelmet (April 01, 2007 7:29 pm ET)
             

          Just because the government is not run by mullahs does not mean they are not Islamists. They support Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Hamas. Because he married a sunni means he is not a fanatic? If you mean a shiite finatic, maybe I'd buy that logic.

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          • Author by snoopy (April 01, 2007 8:35 pm ET)
               

            Gosh, that would be like saying that because the republicans support neo nazi's, the KKK and the fascist wing of the christian party, then a republican run government would be a extremest minority hating, poor hating, non republican hating, non christo-fascist hating extremist government.

            Oh, wait, why leather, I can't believe it! You have a point backed with american bred facts! Will wonders never cease...

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          • Author by mb (April 02, 2007 11:29 am ET)
               

            Leather the man was training to become an eye doctor in the West, when he was thrust into politics bc of his older brother's death.  He went to University in Damascus, France and England.  He did not study theology. He is simply is not an Islamist.  His family has a long history of battling Sunni extremism.  All religious groups and Kurdish groups are heavily monitored.  He is not a Shiite extremist- was trying to point that out by noting his wife's religion.  Similar to Catholic marrying a Protestant during the 30 years war.  Yes the man supports Shia terror groups but essentially  he is using them to strike at Isreal.  How many extremist, religiously based terror groups have we supported in the 20th century?   Afghanistan 1980s ring a bell?  Does that mean we have to join their religious sect if their political objectives are similar to ours?  Diplomacy could work.  Syria will have water, energy and vast array of other problems that we could help them with in exchange for..... well I hope you get the point

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      • Author by mcafla (April 02, 2007 6:56 am ET)
           

        Pelosi a woman, yes she is and Condi is a transvestite???  Give me a break.  Saying they won't listen to Pelosi because she is a woman is totally ignoring the fact that the Sec of State is also a woman.  That is just the sort of half truths Media Matters is talking about.  How indoctrinated can you be not to recognize that.

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    • Author by ivb7863 (April 01, 2007 3:48 pm ET)
         

      This morning on Weekend Edition Sunday NPR did the same thing. Ron Elving, their political editor, went on about the White House disapproval of the Pelosi trip and at the very end barely mentioned some Republicans also went. Another example of the liberal media. Arrrgh.

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    • Author by Cletus (April 01, 2007 3:53 pm ET)
         

      William my lad, with all due respect, you're a jackass.  You can't be an effective propagandist unless you occasionally get something right!  Watch that N.Y Times slickster, Brooks.   ........  I got to hand one thing to you though, you got brass ones to show your face every week like you do.  I'll bet you carry a pretty big stick yourself there Billyboy!

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    • Author by Taz (April 01, 2007 4:15 pm ET)
         

      Bill Kristol and MMfA aren't really all that much different. Kristol only criticizes Democrats even if Republicans are doing or have done something similar. MMfA only criticizes Republicans even if Democrats are doing or have done something similar. It's partisanship either way.

      So when they criticize each other, it's laughable.

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      • Author by Brabantio (April 01, 2007 4:20 pm ET)
           

        "MMfA only criticizes Republicans even if Democrats are doing or have done something similar."

        It's criticizing media and the misinformation they promote or allow, not republican policy.  If you think you have a point, you should probably clarify it.  Examples, maybe?

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        • Author by bruce1ace (April 02, 2007 8:55 am ET)
             

          Jeter2 brought up the example recently of MMFA criticizing Republicans for appearing on Glen Becks show while not criticizing Democrats for appearing on Imus' show despite both shows being mentioned here for numerous infractions.

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          • Author by Brabantio (April 02, 2007 10:20 am ET)
               

            I'd have to see that to appraise its worth.

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          • Author by Brabantio (April 02, 2007 10:30 am ET)
               

            Found it, that's a valid point.  I don't think that's a very common occurance, so the comparison to Kristol is still a bit on the weak side.

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          • Author by solon (April 02, 2007 2:21 pm ET)
               

            And that is a reasonable point. I would say in their defense that MMFA is a website with a specific mission. It involves CONSERVATIVE MEDIA. I never criticised Bozelles mediawatch for not being balanced. I critised them for lack of substantial content but not for not being balanced. A quasi news show is supposed to be balanced and supposed to be overall infomative and not have such a narrow mission. As I said it is a reasoned argument, to me not a persuasive one.

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      • Author by Cletus (April 01, 2007 4:27 pm ET)
           

        MMFA is not broadcast into millions of people's homes, and I would state further, they don't support  a now corrupt party---unlike that grinning charlatan Mr. Krystol. 

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      • Author by CB-ohio (April 01, 2007 8:13 pm ET)
           

        Media Matters for America is an organization whose purpose is to showcase conservative misinformation and lies for what they are. They don't make any other claims as to their reporting or posts here.

        News agencies and places like FoxNews claim to be unbiased or actual news sources. Therein lies the problem.

        MMFA is providing exactly what they describe in their mission. Others seem to lack this, under the premise that if they lie about what they're doing, it just may be true.

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      • Author by mcafla (April 02, 2007 7:23 am ET)
           

        For the past 20 years or more, conservatives have had an unequal advantage in the media via talk radio.  The radio dial anywhere in the country is still about 90% conservative talk.  Is the country 90% conservative?  The answer is far from it.  Why does this matter?  Its a safe assumption that those who choose  political talk over music are more apt to vote.  The airwaves are owned by the taxpayers, so why is it that only about 30%  of the taxpayers are represented on talk radio?  MMFA serves to address that inequity of representation and to amend the factual distortions presented there and elsewhere by the rightwing propagandists.  Its a big job.  Fortunately, some are now doing it.  Call it bias if you will, I view it as holding the right accountable.  Something that has not been done enough in over 20 years since the dumping  of the Fairness in Broadcasting Act under the Reagan administration.

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 01, 2007 4:40 pm ET)
         

      ill bet u that juan williams did not bring up the fact that the repubs went too.

      biil clintons secret service people were supeonad for  a witch hunt .UNTIL PEOPLE GO ONE THESE SHOWS AND CALL THIS ADMIN FOR WHAT IT IS THIS WILL GO ON. ALL THE RIGHT WING NUTS WOULD HAVE BEEN ON TV CALLING FOR CLINTONS IMPEACHMENT EVERY WEEK. THE DEMS ARE TOO TIMID. HIS ADMIN CAN RUN THEIR WAR AND ANSWER QUESTIONS TOO.

       

      U HAVE TO REALIZE BUSH IS KING AND NOTHING CAN TOUCH HIM.BECAUSE U WILL BE CALLED UNPARIOTIC BECAUSE WE ARE AT WAR SO HE CAN DO OR SAY ANYTHING HE WANTS.

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      • Author by Brabantio (April 01, 2007 4:51 pm ET)
           

        I think most of us here appreciate the sentiment, but can we ease up on the caps?

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    • Author by no new texas (April 01, 2007 4:49 pm ET)
         

      Please, also notice, "Juan is away today." But there is no replacement for him. The so-called liberal is more silent and compliant by absence. Funny thing, when bufoon Brit Hume is away Fred Barnes or another lying bully takes his place. I guess they're getting closer and closer to dropping any pretense of actually being "Fair And Balanced."

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 01, 2007 4:51 pm ET)
         

      IM SURE BOTH HUME AND WALLACE KNEW THAT KRISTOL WAS BEING SEletivein his critisitimbut no one will bring that up on furure shows.

      when has hume  said anything against bush.

      i am now prepared to say that no dem should go on fox unless u challenge these ´people . do go on smiling go on with a vengence and accuse fox of being mouth piece of repubs . that may start a chain

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 01, 2007 4:54 pm ET)
         

      sorry i keep doing that on this site but what about what i said now can u comment do u agree brabantio

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      • Author by Brabantio (April 01, 2007 5:00 pm ET)
           

        I'm having trouble finding anything in those posts that's really disputable, so yes I do agree.

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      • Author by Cletus (April 01, 2007 5:13 pm ET)
           

        Not to pile on DrsFinance, but I don't understand you youngsters nowadays.  The non-use of periods, etc. suggests a diregard for the reader.  Is that the message?  In my day this would have been enough to challenge you to a duel sir, should you have ever had the temerity to send me personally such a letter.  

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        • Author by rusty shackleford (April 02, 2007 3:29 pm ET)
             

          Curse these vile chirping machines that have blighted us with their infernal text-messaging. To be certain, we can now inform our loved ones "I'm in Wal-Mart... I SAID I'M IN WAL-MART!" but at what cost?

          Or in other words,

          :-( 

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 01, 2007 5:02 pm ET)
         

      thanks ha ha

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    • Author by truthseeker77 (April 01, 2007 5:55 pm ET)
         

      Israeli president happy with Pelosi's visit to Syria

       

      JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's acting president defended on Sunday U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's planned visit to Syria, a trip the White House described as a bad idea.

      Pelosi, speaking at a dinner hosted by Acting President Dalia Itzik, said she would raise with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad the issue of three captive Israeli soldiers, two held by Lebanon's Hezbollah group and one by Palestinian militants.

      link 

       

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    • Author by parcival (April 01, 2007 6:21 pm ET)
         

      Another billy assertion w/o anything but...billy

      What a shock. Billy comes up with another bold assertion with no argument before or after it. He's just another windbag, though with a few credentials.

      He's another one who better keep his body guard nearby. Just like the other bill, o'leilly, he's just an ideological windbag and needs to be put out of circulation.

       

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      • Author by solon (April 02, 2007 2:25 pm ET)
           

        Not only is all that true, when was the last time he was right about ANYTHING. He is like the anti Cassandra his prophesies never come true but people DO seem to take them seriously. If he had an ounce of self respect he would stop making predictions a betting man could clean up by listening to him and betting the opposite way. How does he have the nerve to continue to  predict what will happen next with his sad and pathetic record of prophetic failures?

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      • Author by roundhouse (April 02, 2007 3:22 pm ET)
           

        "He's another one who better keep his body guard nearby. Just like the other bill, o'leilly, he's just an ideological windbag and needs to be put out of circulation." parcival

        Forgive me if I have misread your statement, but if you are wishing violence on a person with which you disagree, I suggest you go become a republican. That's the kind of political thuggery conservatives employ. It's weak, dude. I don't accept that kind of language when wingnuts use it and it debases the principles of political inclusiveness the progressive left champions.

        By all means, make a forceful point, push back hard but don't do it like a republican would do it. Otherwise, you nailed it. Kristol has no credibility.

        Again, my apologies if I misunderstand your point.

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    • Author by draftedin68 (April 01, 2007 7:25 pm ET)
         

       

      "Neither of the other Fox News Sunday panelists... nor host Chris Wallace noted the inconsistency... "

      As if Roger Ailes would allow debunking of a Rovian talking point to appear on any of their teleprompters.

      Reel News - Hook, Line and Sinker

       

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 01, 2007 8:06 pm ET)
         

      teddy rosevelt do u agree with me in my analysis . u want to fight me but not deal with this is fox wrong yes or no or are u a right wing rush nut

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      • Author by Cletus (April 01, 2007 9:34 pm ET)
           

        Drsfinance---

        I am responding to your last missive with the assumed understanding that if you address me again, that in future you will show me the respect of capitalizing the first letter of the first word in every sentence.

        I take your main point to be that Democrats are cowardly as compared to Republicans.  You very likely are young and don't understand why.  I will explain:

        The Republican party, as constituted today is supported by angry, resentful men and women.  They are angry that there are those, who they view as outsiders, who are doing well within the country and they wish to vent that anger on the party which they feel represents those people --- the Democratic party as currently composed.  They will bite their nose to spite their face, if necessary, to hinder any further Democratic party interference in their  former ethnic hegomony and prevent, and roll back if possible, the perceived usurping of their relative positions in society caused by the presence of the unwanted groups.   That is to say, they feel that anyone who is not a WASP has no business in the direction this country takes whatsoever.  They feel they have no legitimate standing.

        Angry, self righteous people are difficult to fight and the Democratic Party leaders realize this.  They know that their foe is one who'd rather sink the boat than have all reach shore by rowing in unison.  This presents a dilemma:  to fight in a militant manner without a strong and unified electorate (various Democratic constituencies who all hate each other more than they do the Republicans) behind them and eventually risk the Union to the unscrupulous modern day Republican leaders who will seemingly stop at nothing in their quest for personal gain, or to somehow finesse things and get by.

         

         

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        • Author by WhereIsMiddleAmerica (April 02, 2007 1:11 pm ET)
             

          "I am responding to your last missive with the assumed understanding that if you address me again, that in future you will show me the respect of capitalizing the first letter of the first word in every sentence."

           

          What a load of crap. Ignore this Liberal elitist.

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          • Author by Brabantio (April 02, 2007 1:25 pm ET)
               

            It seems pretty obvious he was in character.  Or did you think his comment about dueling earlier was fully serious too?

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    • Author by chucko (April 01, 2007 9:06 pm ET)
         

      M.K. of Media Matters, your criticism of the media regarding the Syrian trip is not complete.  Both today's AP/NYT story and 3/31 NYT stories mention that three House Republicans also planned to visit with Syria's leader Assad, BUT NEITHER articles noted or expanded upon the apparent HYPOCRISY of the State Department's Sean McCormack as well as the White House and Dana Perino's criticism and discouragement of Pelosi's planned trip on Tuesday when Virginia Republican Frank Wolf and 2 other Republicans met with Assad TODAY!! 

      Both Media Matters and the NYT can do better than this and should've written about this hypocrisy, typical of Republicans as it may be at this point.  Hopefully the Washington press corps will do a better job and grill Perino about it come Tuesday (or even tomorrow, whenever she meets with them next).  They should question Bush and McCormack as well.  All of them must be asked what kind of message it sends if REPUBLICANS meet with Assad (since it's a BAD idea if Dems do it, according to Perino and McCormack)?  Let's see how they wiggle out of that one.  

      Finally and essential to whether this is classic hypocrisy on the part of the WH, did Perino, Bush and State Department all not know about the Republican trip to Syria or did they know and just keep quiet about it and hope nobody noticed so they can all take more partisan shots at the opposition party at the expense of the Dems' efforts at diplomacy on behalf of the American people and Middle Easterners?  More cynicals minds than mine can answer that one.  I'll wait for the White House explanation early this week in the meantime - this story won't go away until at least the middle of the upcoming week.  

       

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    • Author by chucko (April 01, 2007 9:11 pm ET)
         

      And to the person wondering where Fox News Sunday panelist Juan Williams was today, he had the day off. 

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    • Author by snoopy (April 01, 2007 9:19 pm ET)
         

      Sounds like a good break point for a joke!

      Cheney burst into pResident bombs-alot's office with a copy of the Iraq WMD intelligence report and says "We have a problem that needs to be fixed".

      "Dumya" picks up the report, thumbs through a few pages, turns to tricky Dick and says "I agree, but how can we fix it? It's written in ink."

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    • Author by Leftwingcenter (April 01, 2007 9:44 pm ET)
         

      Okay, Snoopy, how about this one?

      Moses and Bush are Washington Mall.  Bush wants Moses' endorsement, so one of Bush's Secret Service people goes up to him and asks Moses to come talk to President Bush.  Moses says...

      "No thanks!  The last time I talked to a bush I wandered the desert for forty years!"

       Well, it sounded funny to me...

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (April 01, 2007 11:02 pm ET)
           

        Leftwingcenter, that was funny!

        On topic, what is wrong with SOMEONE talking to Syria. Rice has been all over the middle east and all she has is additional frequent flyer miles. She appears on TV getting off the plane, waving and getting on the plane waving. She has yet to strike any type of deal with anyone. She will go down as the worst Sec of State, But maybe that what she wants.  After all her boss will definitely be the worst Pres. ever.

         

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    • Author by chucko (April 01, 2007 9:47 pm ET)
         

      Hey SNOOPY, not that you'll be sued for plagiarism or anything, but give credit where it's due for the "president bomb-alot" phrase - you heard it from Bill Maher the other night didn't you?  I know I did and it was the first time I heard Bush described that way (though you can never run out of things to say about him or Cheney, I know).

      No big deal, just acknowledge he is where you got it from (it might catch on like wildfire, so hopefully the brilliant Bill Maher will get the credit). 

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      • Author by snoopy (April 02, 2007 9:44 am ET)
           

        Hey Chuck, I actually heard it on Jon Stewart from this segment:

        http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/30/daily-show-iranian-hostage-crisis-the-next-generation/

        Looks like it is catching on! I thought it was hillarious!

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        • Author by chucko (April 02, 2007 12:16 pm ET)
             

          SNOOPY, I stand corrected.  It must've been the thursday Jon Stewart show I heard it then  ("president bombs-alot"). He and Maher are so good at bashing bush that sometimes you forget who said what (and Maher was equally as funny the next night on his show, which is where I thought I saw it, initially). 

          Whether it's Stewart or Maher who lays the funny down, it don't matter as long as they get properly credited with the next catchy phrase of the week (a la Colbert's "factinistas"). 

          And (getting way off topic here, I know) I just hope that they (Colbert and Stewart) stick around long enough to take over latenight TV from Leno and Letterman someday. Would they have trouble doing an hour's worth of comedy every night (as opposed to 30 mins)?  I doubt it cuz they're good enough, they're smart enough, and people like 'em (Al Franken, you are missed).  Stewart (not Smalley, Jon) followed by Ferguson on CBS would be cool, but a killer one-two-three punch with Conan, Colbert, and Carson on NBC latenight would rule!

          They're gonna need better exposure than Comedy Central.  

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    • Author by corkcol6005 (April 02, 2007 2:06 am ET)
         

      This is nothing new for Fox News and Bill Kristol. Sins of omission are a regular staple of Fox News.  It isn't so much what they report, but what they don't report. Bill Kristol is a pro at leaving out important elements of any story just like he did here in the Pelosi trip to Syria by not mentioning GOP legislators also are going to Syria

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      • Author by Pithaughn (April 02, 2007 1:07 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, and they did not mention how the speaker and her delegation traveled. What kind of plane was it? Was it bigger than Condi's? Did it have better liquor in the well? What kind of snacks were provided? I can't believe they refuse to investigate these crucial issues.

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        • Author by ajwan (April 02, 2007 4:35 pm ET)
             

          I am pretty sure Drudge will be reporting that Pelosi and her gang reclined in loungers while young slaves popped grapes into their mouths and kept their wine glasses over-flowing. And it's almost 100% corroborated that they got better crackers and peanuts too.

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    • Author by mcafla (April 02, 2007 6:52 am ET)
         

      I have contacted Time Magazine that I will not be renewing my subscription as they are now featuring Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer in opinion pieces.  I explained my reasoning that Kristol and Krauthammer are unrepentent neocons who propagandized us into the Iraq war.  Their opinions as heard on FOX and elsewhere are based on half truths as  this current example demonstrates.  By opining in this manner, they act as propagandists for their neocon cause of the moment. They have a right to their opinions and Time has a right to print them. I recognize the need to have conservative opinions represented.  However, I do object to these two propagandists.  I believe that both Krauthammer and Kristol get enough media space already.  I will not subsidize more media space for them by subscribing to Time.

       

       

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    • Author by tex (April 02, 2007 7:33 am ET)
         

      The GOP could solve this diplomatic problem by enlisting all their black Senators to make such trips.  And all their black House members.

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    • Author by drsfinance20034900 (April 02, 2007 7:43 am ET)
         

      t eddy rosevelt

      i am 53  years and i dont always have time to be correct when i write these letters. i am under no obligation to u .i have never heard what u are talking about in all my years . so in the future just deal with what i say and not the way i form my sentences. i am a very busy man . u and i also have agreement about this so lets stick to that. if u dont like the way i form my sentences tooooooo bad.

      people are dying in iraq and u are worried about this

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (April 02, 2007 12:01 pm ET)
         

      This is a really, really good catch by MMfA. First thing I've been very impressed with that neither side of the aisle can really argue with. Good stuff.

       I saw somebody comment about how talk radio is unfair. That's funny. It's about advertising dollars, really. I'm not up for socializing our airwaves.

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      • Author by Pithaughn (April 02, 2007 1:12 pm ET)
           

        "I'm not up for socializing our airwaves." I am. The goverment is supposed to manage and oversee our national resources for the people , not for corporations. You can throw out the dreaded S word, but when it comes to regulating corporations that have been granted a monopoly on a certain frequency, you betcha socialism is the answer.

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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (April 02, 2007 1:57 pm ET)
             

          LOL NATURAL RESOURCES.

          I can't wait until we read about the US-government-backed or "Official" US radio and TV stations tell us the "news" and controversies of the day.

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          • Author by lemoc (April 02, 2007 3:08 pm ET)
               

            The PEOPLE always loved getting the PEOPLE's news, commentary, and entertainment on the PEOPLE's stations, using the PEOPLE's airwaves, in the old Soviet Union.

            It was a great old-fashioned idea in the olden days.

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            • Author by Pragmatic Liberal (April 02, 2007 3:29 pm ET)
                 

              It's actually a sign of totalitarianism of all kinds.  In the USSR, it was Communist, in Germany, Italy and the American neocons, it's facisim.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (April 02, 2007 2:44 pm ET)
         

      What I think everyone so far has failed to mention, is that Pelosi is the leader of the opposition party, a vehement critic of Bush, and an outspoken opponent of the war in Iraq. Her actions carry a lot more weight than simply as a Congresswoman. 

      Since Syria is funding much ferment in Iraq and has been a supporter of terrorists in the past, the problem with her announcing her intent to travel to Syria is that it looks to many conservatives as if she is doing a "Kerry", i.e., fraternizing with the enemey, like he did back in the Viet Nam days when he went to Paris to meet with the North Vietnamese.

      But it my mind it is typical of the Democrats who will do almost anything to help lead to the defeat of the U.S. in Iraq. 

       

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      • Author by Pragmatic Liberal (April 02, 2007 3:30 pm ET)
           

        Uh huh.  Right.  Nobody is buying that spin.  You guys need a new tactic.  You've worn out those talking points.

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      • Author by open_mind (April 02, 2007 3:57 pm ET)
           

        That is indeed pertinent context.  The Democrats are indeed the opposition.  The problem is that some conservatives seem to have difficulty that political opposition within the US is somehow equivalent to international political opposition.

        You can genuinely oppose the political policies of your own government without necessarily supporting the enemy in any way.  Republicans/Conservatives did just that in regards to Kosovo and no one blinked an eyelash.

        I think your example demonstrates why many conservatives are so disliked (at least by myself) for their self-servingly shallow and transparent attempts to discredit any opposition to them in ways like this.

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      • Author by ajwan (April 02, 2007 4:30 pm ET)
           

        Holy smokes are you kidding with that argument. If you were, then you could probably get a job on Jon Stewart as their comedic republican talking point of comic relief.

        If you were not kidding then your spiteful and irrational smears of Pelosi and Kerry are noted

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      • Author by Blue Dog (April 02, 2007 5:53 pm ET)
           

        Pelosi is the leader of the opposition party

        I prefer to think of BUSH as the leader of the opposition party. Pelosi is the leader of the MAJORITY.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (April 02, 2007 3:11 pm ET)
         

      "Rice has been all over the middle east and all she has is additional frequent flyer miles. She appears on TV getting off the plane, waving and getting on the plane waving. She has yet to strike any type of deal with anyone."

      Hmm. You're right. Of course, if the previous deals had worked, there wouldn't be a need to strike any more. Let's see how the North Korean thing works out before we pass too harsh a judgement. Her approval rating far exceeds Bush and Congress's right now.

       

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      • Author by open_mind (April 02, 2007 4:01 pm ET)
           

        I find it interesting that as you say, Condi's approval ratings are so high in comparison.  She is by far the worst NSA and SecState in history.

        It seems the media have not exposed her for her multiplicity of bungles for some reason.  If people knew the extent to which she has screwed, up, there is no way she would be nearly as popular as she is.

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    • Author by knowlies (April 02, 2007 3:11 pm ET)
         

      "...typical of the Democrats who will do almost anything to help lead to the defeat of the U.S. in Iraq." -A.A.

      No need to worry. The Cons took care of that already.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (April 02, 2007 4:34 pm ET)
         

      I find it interesting that as you say, Condi's approval ratings are so high in comparison.  She is by far the worst NSA and SecState in history.

      I would wager a few Vietnam veterans would argue with you.

      She's not close to the worst. She's much more highly-regarded internationally than any other member of the administration. And, open-mind, I've heard so much bashing against individuals solely because they're tied to Bush, that it's very difficult for me to take you seriously when you say she's the worst. Please give examples of where she's "failed" where others have "succeeded", particularly in the Middle East, if you don't mind.

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      • Author by ajwan (April 02, 2007 4:43 pm ET)
           

        The mushroom cloud thing, ignoring the "Bin laded ready to attack U.S. with planes" warning, the whole Middle East peace process thing (yes exactly there is no American led Middle East peace process), and the catastophe in Lebanon on her watch and with her support(the we have to let war take it's course before diplomacy thing she's got) come to mind pretty quickly. Moreover, her evasive and it's always "someone elses fault" appearances in Congress don't help with her credibility or competency perceptions.

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    • Author by flhinton9099 (April 02, 2007 4:47 pm ET)
         

      Ever notice how right-wing smear merchants like Kristol appear on Fox Noise more often than legitimate news outlets?  The same goes for the administration's lackeys.  It is almost as if they're afraid to step out of their comfort zone and take any hard questions or have verify their facts.  Such as they are.

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    • Author by ajwan (April 02, 2007 4:48 pm ET)
         

      I almost want to do a kind of Tommy and ask, Does this have to be posted? Kristol has established over and over and over again that he is ignorant and he likes it that way. I almost can't stand to read another MMFA Kristol post. Ok but I get it, while Kristol is allowd to espouse in media, MMFA has to over and over and over again expose and debunk his foolish comments. Still hurts.

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      • Author by keenanjay (April 03, 2007 4:38 pm ET)
           

        AJWAN, excellent work here.  Particularly your summary of Rice's utter failure as NSA and SecState.  I remember being utterly dumbfounded by her remarks to Congress on 9/11 to the effect of "how was I to know?"  Because you were the freakin' National Security Adviser!

         Rough rider, I sympathize with your nostalgia for articulate English.  I think in this case we are dealing with a non-native speaker who hasn't discovered the relevance of the medium to the perception of the message.

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