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Media figures still hyping Giuliani's performance on 9-11

April 04, 2007 6:30 pm ET

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During a discussion of Republican presidential candidates on the April 4 edition of MSNBC News Live, NBC political correspondent Jay Dedapper repeated a common media label for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani: "America's mayor." Dedapper asserted of Giuliani, "His -- his challenge here is to really convince voters that he's more than the mayor of America after 9-11, and that's basically what he talked about -- what he did as mayor before 9-11." Also, on the April 3 edition of National Public Radio's All Things Considered, NPR national political corresponsdent Mara Liasson said of Giuliani: "He's been the recent frontrunner in the polls, but his lead in the polls has been slipping, maybe because he's been getting more scrutiny and Republican primary voters are beginning to learn more about him, other than the fact that he was the hero mayor of 9-11."

As Media Matters for America has documented, the media have repeatedly touted Giuliani as "America's mayor," asserting as fact that he behaved heroically on 9-11 and its aftermath. But his status as the "hero of 9-11" is by no means undisputed. For instance, Village Voice senior editor Wayne Barrett and CBSNews.com senior producer Dan Collins, in their book Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11 (HarperCollins, 2006), argued that Giuliani mishandled the clean-up at Ground Zero, exacerbating the risk to workers' lives and health; that he failed to set up a unified command post for the New York Fire and Police departments, contributing to a lack of communication between police officers and firefighters on 9-11; and that his history with former New York police commissioner Bernard Kerik was part of a pattern of security-related cronyism in Giuliani's administration, as Media Matters also noted.

Additionally, on March 9, the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF) issued a letter citing Giuliani's "egregious treatment of our 343 fallen [firefighters] on 9/11, their families and our members, following that horrific day." The letter also took issue with Giuliani's "scoop and dump" policy, saying: "Mayor Giuliani's actions meant that fire fighters and citizens who perished would either remain buried at Ground Zero forever, with no closure for families, or be removed like garbage and deposited at the Fresh Kills Landfill." The letter later added: "What Giuliani showed is a disgraceful lack of respect for the fallen and those brothers still searching for them. He exposed our members and leaders to arrest."

From the 9 a.m. ET hour of the April 4 edition of MSNBC News Live:

DEDAPPER: Well, it's interesting. There's a new poll out from the University of Iowa today, and the top three contenders are essentially all tied: Mitt Romney, John McCain, and Rudy Giuliani. But number one in the poll? Undecided.

Republicans are still window shopping. Romney is opening his campaign office today and he'll get a lot of attention because of the money -- has really made him a force here again. John McCain, of course, came through here and did so with his Straight Talk Express last week.

Rudy Giuliani on the other hand -- this was his first trip yesterday and he went through a neighborhood in Cedar Rapids, where frankly there weren't many voters out. It was almost this cold and it was mainly Democratic neighborhood. He did meet some more voters in West Des Moines. His - his challenge here is to really convince voters that he's more than the "Mayor of America after 9-11," and that's basically what he talked about -- what he did as mayor before 9-11. That is what he's trying to get across.

Again, though, this polling is really interesting. The number one choice of likely Republican caucus-goers: undecided. They just don't like the field, the choices that they have right now.

AMY ROBACH (host): Enter Fred Thompson.

From the April 3 broadcast of NPR's All Things Considered:

LIASSON: There isn't a frontrunner. It was John McCain at one point, but now he's stuck at 20 to 25 percent in the polls. He's no longer the frontrunner, he's no longer the insurgent either, and he just had a very disappointing fundraising quarter, where he came in third, with just $12 million.

Now, his campaign says they're taking steps to correct the fundraising problems, but it just adds to the list of troubles that McCain is having this year. Then there's Rudy Giuliani. He's been the recent frontrunner in the polls, but his lead in the polls has been slipping, maybe because he's been getting more scrutiny and Republican primary voters are beginning to learn more about him, other than the fact that he was the hero mayor of 9-11. Although Giuliani recently raised $15 million, which is very impressive for a candidate who's been in the race for such a short period of time.

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    • Author by Bronco McGurk (April 04, 2007 8:32 pm ET)
         

      No one ever backs up this Union or Wayne Barrett - no one, ever.  Why not?  Isn't it possible that Wayne Barrett is a washed up Village Voice (?????) hack trying to make a name for himself, and that this Union which fought with Giuliani since the day he became mayor, has an axe to grind?  It just seems exceptionally odd - extraordinarily odd, really - that *no one else, ever* - comes forward to substantiate these charges.  Which is strange, given that the MSM is out to hang Giuliani because he deconstructed liberal orthodoxy in the real world, in real time, for all the world to witness.  One last point - compare Giuliani at 9/11 with Ray Nagin after Katrina.  Most politicans behave the way Nagin did - blame, whine, point fingers, try to avoid responsibility.

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    • Author by dave (April 04, 2007 9:09 pm ET)
         

      Rudy's face was all over the news after 9-11, but I believe he did nothing above what any other mayor of a major city (except Nagin) would have done after a disaster of that proportion. I'm still trying to figure out what a social Conservative is. Being a Conservative myself, I have no idea how you can be both.

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    • Author by MickD (April 04, 2007 10:14 pm ET)
         

      The inability of the press to look at the whole Rudy picture is knotted up with the desperation to have a HERO in fairy tale America (which holier than thou behaviorists want so bad), a daddy to look after them.

      Mr. G. did a damn fine job on 9/11. He rose to a tragic circumstance. But that was only one day and what the Repubs have done with the propaganda of it has virtually nullified it.

      "Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." Martin Luther King, Jr., January 15, 1929 - April 4th, 1968

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    • Author by iflurry8094 (April 04, 2007 10:40 pm ET)
         

      Not that Keith Olbermann needs more exposure here, but I thought this deserved mentioning.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (April 04, 2007 10:52 pm ET)
           

        I caught that story, iflurry8094.

        Is that part of the "deconstructing liberal orthodoxy" that the gentle poster above was referring to ? I guess it's the restrictive and inefficient "not being an insane ghoul" part of the liberal agenda.

        Deconstructed them liberal New Yorkers right into a pothole, by cracky.

         

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    • Author by the Grey Path (April 04, 2007 11:37 pm ET)
         

      Again  ........... Hamster.

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (April 05, 2007 9:17 am ET)
         

      Some CNN blonde airhead did a typical interview with Guliani last night in which the interviewer suggested to Saint Rudy this scenerio: "I'm a pro-life woman. I like the fact that if you become President, you'll cut my taxes, you'll keep me safe from terrorism, you'll be tough in foreign policy- but you are pro-choioce. How do you appeal to me?"

      Seriously.  What Democratic candidate for high office gets a setup like that?  

      Naturally America's Mayor, Patron Saint of September 11, sidestepped personal questions and just smiled and blathered platitudes.  The most entertaining part was when he said "I dont know about all those political positions I took earlier, I have to look at them" and something about not being sure if we are safer now than we were six years ago.   Oh, and his argument that being an assistant DA, DA, and Mayor makes him the most experienced candidate to be President of the US- whatever.

      Guliani is the ultimate straw man, even more than Oil Businessman/Baseball Team Owner/Washington Outsider George W Bush.  If the media ever stops blowing him, the rest of the country will figure that out way before November, 2008. 

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      • Author by ShamelessLib (April 05, 2007 11:11 am ET)
           

        I find it interesting that Giuliani is supposed to keep us safe from terrorism, even though he was mayor of NYC when 9/11 happened.  Am I crazy in thinking that if a Dem had been mayor on 9/11 he/she would be blamed for not preventing it, instead of lauded for getting us through it? 

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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (April 05, 2007 12:19 pm ET)
             

          You're right. Giuliani should've scrambled NYC's airforce and took those planes out. My eyes hurt from rolling them so much.

           That being said, I don't think that Giuliani's "good job" on 9/11 is the make-or-break issue for a nomination or general election. People who oppose Rudy on both sides of the aisle should concentrate on him as a whole piece instead of trying to debunk his major claim to fame; especially because it might turn Rudy fans (admirers) against their candidate instead of against Rudy.

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    • Author by befuddled (April 05, 2007 12:57 pm ET)
         

      I think we all know who the "heroes" of 9-11 are. Enuf repeating the former Mayor is one of them.  Enuf politicizing the awful event.

      Giuliani is reported to have said, standing near the Towers with his Fire Chief, upon seeing the first tower starting to fall, "Thank God George Bush is President".  The two then ran for their lives.  Really? More than 100 stories of building is about to fall on your head and you thank God for who is President?  By name?  Isn't it more likely Rudy turned to the Chief and said, "Get me the f**k out of here" as they both turned and ran?  I think the first story is the product of a media manipulator.  My version is  believable!

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    • Author by wzwriter (April 05, 2007 4:11 pm ET)
         

      All I know is up until September 10, 2001, Rudy Giuliani was generally considered a scumbag and a political hack.  The next day, he was elevated to sainthood for doing what any other person would have done in his place.

      "America's Mayor"???  Don't make me laugh.  Or barf.

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