On Beck, Politico's Allen denounced Dems for "1984"-like objection to term "war on terror" -- what about Bush admin?
On the April 4 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck, Politico chief political correspondent Mike Allen agreed with host Glenn Beck's claim that a recent decision by Democrats on the House Armed Services Committee to refrain from using the term "global war on terror" amounts to "political garbage." Allen called the move "silly" and asserted that "Democrats are trying to make Iraq the president's personal war." But Allen did not say why he views Congress' efforts to clarify what funds are being appropriated for what efforts as "silly." Nor did he explain why he did not describe as "silly" the Bush administration's continued use of a term that some in the administration have criticized, and that serves to conflate efforts on different fronts, some of which -- Iraq, in particular -- are strongly opposed by the public.
An April 4 Associated Press article reported that "Erin Conaton, the Democratic staff director of the House Armed Services Committee, urged aides in a March 27 memo to 'avoid using colloquialisms,' such as the 'war on terrorism' or the 'long war,' and not to use the term 'global war on terrorism.' In preparing the annual defense authorization bill, the staff is directed to be more specific, such as referring to operations in Iraq."
The AP article went on to note that Democrats "say they are tired of Bush's use of the blanket term 'global war on terror' to justify individual military operations and their hefty budgets." Furthermore, in an April 4 press release, House Armed Services Committee chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) explained that the committee members' decision stems from Republicans' long-standing efforts "to tie together the misadventure in Iraq and the overall war against terrorists":
Each year, the members and staff of the House Armed Services Committee work to prepare the best possible defense authorization bill. When writing legislation, the words we choose are important, and we make every effort to be as precise and specific as possible so that Congressional intent may be understood.
GOP objections to our efforts to clarify legislative language represent the typical Republican leadership attempt to tie together the misadventure in Iraq and the overall war against terrorists. The Iraq War is separate and distinct from the war against terrorists, who have their genesis in Afghanistan and who attacked us on 9/11, and the American people understand this.
On the April 4 edition of Glenn Beck, Allen claimed that the Democrats' decision "does have sort of a 1984 quality to it" and described the move as "silly." Beck asked him, "Is there any reason that you can see other than politics to do this?" Allen appeared to agree that politics was the sole reason for the decision, stating: "[T]he clear reason for this is that the global war on terror is something that the president is associated with." When Beck called the decision "political garbage," Allen responded, "Democrats are trying to make Iraq the president's personal war." Allen further stated that "you can't cherry-pick" individual terms for the war because "it's one big pot."
Moreover, Allen and Beck omitted any mention of senior Bush administration officials who have also argued that the label is problematic. Indeed, in a December 2006 interview, then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told syndicated columnist Cal Thomas:
I don't think I would have called it the war on terror. I don't mean to be critical of those who have. Certainly, I have used the phrase frequently. Why do I say that? Because the word 'war' conjures up World War II more than it does the Cold War. It creates a level of expectation of victory and an ending within 30 or 60 minutes of a soap opera. It isn't going to happen that way. Furthermore, it is not a 'war on terror.' Terror is a weapon of choice for extremists who are trying to destabilize regimes and (through) a small group of clerics, impose their dark vision on all the people they can control. So 'war on terror' is a problem for me.
According to a May 2005 New York Times article, Gen. Richard B. Myers, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "told the National Press Club on Monday that he had 'objected to the use of the term 'war on terrorism' before, because if you call it a war, then you think of people in uniform as being the solution.'"
From the April 4 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck:
BECK: And now closer to home, the House Armed Services Committee is banishing the words "global war on terror" from the 2008 defense budget in an effort to, quote, "avoid using colloquialisms." I don't even know what that means.
Mike Allen, chief political correspondent from Politico.com.
Mike, help me. What, what, what?
ALLEN: Well, Glenn, there's no help for you, but I can tell you what the House Armed Services Committee meant by that.
BECK: Yeah.
ALLEN: This does have sort of a 1984 quality to it. And a House Republican aide in the Army Times, which broke this story, said that it reminded him of Harry Potter, the war that must not be named.
Glenn, this is silly. As you know, the global war on terror is something that has many components that fit together. When you move from the Middle East to the Horn of Africa, you're not going to take it out of a different account in the defense budget.
BECK: And that's what they're talking about, right? They're talking about making it, you know, war in Horn of Africa, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, instead of just one giant -- is there any reason other than, I don't know, they're not busy enough? Is there any reason that you can see other than politics to do this?
ALLEN: Right. Well, there's two reasons. The stated reason is that, as you said, they want to be more specific. And today, the chairman of that committee, Ike Skelton, said that Republicans were creating a distraction about this but did not step away from the policy.
Glenn, the clear reason for this is that the global war on terror is something that the president is associated with. Sometimes that's good for him. Sometimes that's not good for him. And Democrats want to sort of water it down a little bit.
And, to be fair, I'll point out the president uses it for his purposes, too. As you know, for him to talk about the global war on terror sounds more noble than simply invading Iraq.
And as the president talks about his legacy, the No. 1 thing he says that he wants to do is leave the tools in place for his successor to fight a war on terrorism that he says will go on for generations.
So both sides use this vocabulary. Certainly, the House Armed Services Committee presumably has bigger problems to deal with.
BECK: Mike, I have to tell you, I am not a guy who, you know -- I disagree with the Democrats, don't get me wrong. I disagree with them, but I'm not a guy who thinks that they hate America. I'm not a guy who thinks they want to lose the war.
But I'm -- Democrats, I'm holding onto a thread here. I mean, everything that they're doing right now is proving me wrong. What are you doing? Why don't you do some real work instead of all of this political garbage?
They have turned this into nothing but just trying to win the next election. Am I wrong? Help me out. I want to be wrong.
ALLEN: Well, I'm not going to buy quite that formulation, but I will say that Democrats are trying to make Iraq the president's personal war. And broader efforts against terrorism, which most Americans agree on and which the next president is certainly going to deal with, they want to make it everyone's.
But you can't cherry-pick. It's one big pot, and even if Harry Potter cannot name it, we're going to.
BECK: Right. Yeah, good. Thanks. Mike, appreciate your time.















Leave it to backers of the most Orwellian administration in history to play the Orwell card against the Democrats. Clean Skies Act makes the air dirtier; No Child Left Behind leaves children behind; Democratic Congressional oversight of the Iraq war is dubbed "micromanagement".
Allen and Beck: you want some freedom fries with that hypocrisy?
Randy
More to the point, IMO, Iraq IS Bungle's war in it's entirety, forever and ever without end.
Oddly, I read a book ten years ago called The Great Limbaugh Con, which pointed out this very propaganda tactic. In essence, the NeoClowns accuse liberals of doing something that they are doing themselves. Limbaugh has elevated it to an art form, and Glenn The Putz Beck is doing the same. Somehow, this fools their knuckledragging audience...don't ask me why.
It's actually from Joseph Goebells. He was a master of it. Accuse your enemy of wanting to do that which you yourself are doing....like always claiming "radical islam wants to conquer the world" while invading other countries and claiming to be the world's "leader". It's a distraction technique, a fingerpointing. It's childish, but it's effective propaganda.
"As you know, for him to talk about the global war on terror sounds more noble than simply invading Iraq."
Noble? Are you kidding me?
"the No. 1 thing he says that he wants to do is leave the tools in place for his successor to fight a war on terrorism that he says will go on for generations."
Generations? Endless war - that's 1984, isn't it?
"Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia."
"The war on terror will last for generations." Just who is sounding Orwellian here, Allen?
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Are the Republicans conflating Harry Potter with their President?? Are they expecting a magic wand, and no more worries???
Fairey tales fit well into the Neo-Con Geo-Political Agenda!!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
By being specific dems are trying to lose this war. I remember when people would refer to CNN as the communist news network.
The term Global War on Terrorism is a joke.
Chiquita Banana gave money to terrorists yet not a single associate of the Chiquita Banana company was sent to Gitmo because Chiquita Banana is a Corporation hence the double standard.
sad but true.
I guess when you can afford to pay a 25 million dollar fine they will forgive and forget.
Of course it's a joke. It always has been. It was a way to pump up Bush's ratings and exploit the tragedy of 9-11 to funnel more power to the Executive Branch, gain access to the Iraqi oil fields, enrich the military contractors and themselves, and attempt to establish a permanent Republican majority. In essence, they thought they could use it as an excuse for anything.
The "War on Terror" is a bogus talking point.
Nerzog,
Just curious, did you have a problem with the term the "Cold War"? See I don't know why the term the "War on Terror" has everybody in such a snit. Like the Cold War described the years of conflict [primarily] between the US & USSR, the present time period has been a series of conflicts or acts of terrorism carried out by [mostly] Islamic groups against just about everyone else.
Is the problem the term War on Terror, or the fact that many associate the term with Bush?
BTW I do not include Bush's War in Iraq as part of the War on Terror. I just call that Bush's Blunder.
You have earned the award for finest distinction!
This is an extension of the Cold War. Without an enemy, fascism has no power over populations. When the USSR went away, the Military/Industrial Complex lost it's main reason for existence. So they tried a "War on Drugs" but that really only works for the Prison/Industrial Complex. They tried to make a big buck from Colombia and Central America, but those low intensity conflicts in poor countries couldn't use up the big budget stuff.
And then along came Israel, handing out lots of campaign contributions and urging everyone to hate moslems. The Military/Industrial Complex found it's new enemy du jour in Islam and began to pump up the arms sales. The "War on Terror" is awesome for them...the enemy is so vague and nebulous that it can be milked forever. There's no way to definitively end a war on terrorism except by removing the root causes of the conflict, but the methods used are meant to generate more terrorism. This is why Israel does not end the occupation of Palestine. It would end resistance, would end terrorism, and end their massive investment in a military-centered state, which our Military/Industrial Complex has become a huge partner in.
An open-ended conflict with no desire to create the conditions for peace....just want the Military/Industrial Complex want. The US has been in a state of perpetual war since 1941. Straight outta 1984.
"But you can't cherry-pick. It's one big pot, and even if Harry Potter cannot name it, we're going to."
Right, Glen. Save the cherry-picking for unimportant things like intelligence. When it comes to substantive matters like the branding of a policy we don' need no stinking nuance!
Allen was, as usual, a jerk, but at least he wasn't bouncing all around. When he's on Hardball he usually looks like he forgot to take a leak and the Starbucks is kicking in.
I thought it was a war on a girl named 'Tara'. I always wondered, was it Tara Reid..Tera Patrick. Making war on an actual person made a lot more sense then attacking an amorphous tactic.
Gotta love it.
"War on Terror" - meaningless gov't sanctioned doublespeak
Those who want to do away with this euphemism- 1984-ish
They even evoke 1984 while referencing their opponents with 1984- how 1984.
"War on Tara?!" Great idea! Tara's just a few miles north of Dublin; the people there have always annoyed our British buddies by thinking it was ok to be Irish. Let's give'em some shock'n'awe. This one we can definitely win in a few days.
and finally get some decent beer and whisky for our soldiers on leave. Those Muslim country weekend passes gotta suck.
By definition, a war that is creating more terrorists cannot be included under a "war ON terror" rhetorical umbrella.
I'm pretty sure that's the context in which these objections to the phrase exist.
Earth to Mr. Allen
I know exposure is a good thing, but if you care about your credibility at all you might reconsider a visit to The Beaver. See the simple equation below
The Beaver = No credibility.
Thank you.
I have been studying this tactic for sometime now : the use of projection by the right wing to brand opponents with what they themselves practice in extreme measure. Newt was one of the earliest proponents of this and Rove developed it to great advantage. The corporate media and, unfortunately, the general public, do not think about how political strategy can involve the chess like strategy of thinking several moves ahead. It is brazen, unprecedented and a full realization of Orwell's doublespeak. Rove announced the discovery of a "bug" planted in his office the day before an election and his candidate won, cleverly, implicity blaming the opponent without proof. He doubtlessly supplied the forged documents of Bush's Awol deserter status to CBS news and sank Dan Rather AND the Awol/desterter story in a flury of distraction, subject change and blame the messenger tactics, always successful with the US media. Caught in their own lies at last, the right is furious that the Dems are finally calling them on their Orwellian creation of pseudo-reality with linguistic distortion. The response : accusing the critics of Orwellian speech of being Orwellian. Right from Rove's playbook. The circular game will continue. In the next year, we will hear the Dems being accused of everything the Repubs did for 6 years. I am still furious and fuming about the lack of coverage in the meda about the massive tons of pork in previous Repub legislation : anyone remember the transportation bill or the prescription drug benefit boondogle? Apparently not. Yet funds for hurricane relief are labeled "pork" and never analyzed or criticized, but accepted and now Dems wear the label of pork perveyors despite the 5 trillions dollars of debt added by Repubs. Not a peep about that. What is a san person to do? I would implode without sites like this.
I just wrote my thesis on 1984, so this stuff always interests me. First, I feel the need to address this: "Democrats are trying to make Iraq the president's personal war." They are treating it as such because that's exactly what it is. Very Orwellian tactic right there, but you and I know this. What interests me most about 1984 is this one quote, when Winston has been captured and is being interrogated by O'Brien:
"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power...no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end...The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
To me this whole non-sensical argument is over, at its base level, power. The president is used to having the power to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, saying whatever he wants. Now that a small group of his minions has decided that they are going to take the power of naming the war away from him, the Conservative Media does not know how to react. Incidentally, how is this different from the Bushies relatively new trend of referring to the Democratic party as the "Democrat" party, thereby consciously removing the party from the ideals of democracy? How is this different from the Conservative Media's hissy fit with Olbermann because he called the president "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush"? It's all semantics, but we're told that it's relevant when the Bushies have a beef, but it's "silly" when the Dems try to take any control over any part of the social discourse. The lesson, as always: Don't trust corporate media.