AFA's Wildmon, Focus on the Family's Minnery attacked reporter for publishing Dobson's questioning of Thompson's faith
On the March 30 edition of American Family Radio's (AFR) Today's Issues, co-host Tim Wildmon -- president of the conservative American Family Association (AFA) -- and Focus on the Family's Tom Minnery suggested that Focus on the Family chairman James C. Dobson's comment questioning the faith of possible 2008 presidential candidate and former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN) occurred in the context of "a private conversation ... between two friends" and should not have been reported. In fact, Dobson was speaking with a man he knew was a reporter for a national newsmagazine, and Minnery and Wildmon did not claim that Dobson had stipulated his comments were not for publication.
Minnery is senior vice president for Focus on the Family Action, a lobbying organization that describes itself as a "cultural action organization" legally separate from Focus on the Family and serves as "a platform for informing, inspiring and rallying those who care deeply about the family to greater involvement in the moral, cultural and political issues that threaten our nation."
On March 28, U.S. News & World Report correspondent Dan Gilgoff reported that Dobson had said of Thompson: "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for. ... [But] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."
After a spokesman for Thompson rebuked Dobson, asserting that Thompson was baptized and is a member of the Church of Christ, a Focus on the Family spokesman, Gary Schneeberger, stood by Dobson's remarks and told Gilgoff: "We use that word -- Christian -- to refer to people who are evangelical Christians. Dr. Dobson wasn't expressing a personal opinion about his reaction to a Thompson candidacy; he was trying to 'read the tea leaves' about such a possibility."
Gilgoff wrote in his article that Dobson's comments about Thompson were made during an unsolicited phone call Dobson placed to him. Gilgoff wrote that the two had not communicated in two years, the last time occurring when Gilgoff was writing a book about Dobson and his organization, The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War (St. Martin's Press, March 2007). According to Gilgoff, Dobson "agreed to answer only written questions for the book."
On March 30, two days after Dobson's remarks, Minnery, appeared on AFR's Today's Issues. Minnery backed away from Dobson's comments, stating, "As it turns out, he [Thompson] is a member of the Church of Christ, been baptized, so he's a Christian man." At the same time, Minnery suggested Gilgoff was out of line for reporting Dobson's criticism of Thompson. Minnery claimed Dobson "hadn't talked to Dan in a little while so he called him up just to chat and see how he was doing and Dan immediately pounced on that as an opportunity for an interview." He went on: "So Dan wrote an article saying Dr. Dobson does not believe Fred Thompson is a Christian. I don't think it was a proper thing for Dan to do because it was a personal phone call and they were talking offhandedly." Minnery left out the fact that Dobson had not communicated with Gilgoff for two years, and that even then, the two had corresponded only in writing regarding Gilgoff's book.
Wildmon echoed Minnery's distortion, claiming without basis that Dobson and Gilgoff were engaging in friendly banter. Wildmon said: "[I]f we were all quoted on things we say during the course of a day, offhanded, off the top of our head -- and I know he's talking to a reporter, but this is a private conversation on the phone between two friends, not a 'OK, can I record you now? OK, we're on the record.' "
Also on March 30, Focus on the Family issued a press release "clarify[ing]" Dobson's remarks, stating, "Dr. Dobson told Mr. Gilgoff he had never met Sen. Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate. Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff." The press release added that "we would caution friends of our ministry not to believe what they read about Dr. Dobson in the secular media today. ... It is apparent that those who represent a liberal worldview seek to marginalize him and confuse our friends."
AFR is a network of more than 150 radio stations owned by the AFA, whose stated mission is to "inform Christians about what is happening in America."
From the March 30 edition of American Family Radio's Today's Issues:
MINNERY: You don't have to guess with Dr. Dobson. He's consistent because his moral beliefs are absolute and he never wavers, and he has a great capacity for taking criticism. He said a long time ago -- I'll never forget this -- this was back in 1987 when we decided to get into formal public policy issues. He was warned by a lot of people, "Don't do that because they'll drag your reputation in the mud." And he said this, he said, "My reputation is given to me by the Lord. It's a blessing. I will not hoard the reputation. I'll spend it in the cause of righteousness." And that is why he's willing to be criticized because he knows that's the price of standing up, and so he's a very consistent guy.
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WILDMON: This latest thing the past couple, three days, what was that about? Because he got criticized about some remark about Senator Thompson or something like that --
MINNERY: Yeah. Fred Thompson, former senator from Tennessee, has announced that he's interested in being president, and he's exploring that as so many others are. And Dr. Dobson made a phone call earlier this week to a man named Dan Gilgoff. Dan Gilgoff is a reporter with U.S. News & World Report, a man that we had worked with before because Dan wrote a cover story for U.S. News & World Report on Dr. Dobson a number of years ago and it was very fair, so we've been friendly to Dan.
Dan recently wrote a book about Focus on the Family called The Jesus Machine. We think that title is a bit blasphemous, but nonetheless, it was about Focus on the Family. And it says -- the subtitle is "How Focus on the Family and the Religious Right" -- no, it's "How James Dobson, Focus on the Family and Religious America are Winning the Culture War." I'm not sure we're winning, but it's a pretty fair look overall at Focus on the Family. And Dr. Dobson hadn't talked to Dan for a while, so he called him up a few days ago just to chat and see how he was doing, and Dan immediately pounced on that as an opportunity for an interview. He asked about presidential candidates, particularly Fred Thompson. Dr. Dobson said, "Well, I don't know, I'm not sure he's a Christian." And so Dan wrote an article saying Dr. Dobson does not believe Fred Thompson is a Christian. I don't think it was a proper thing for Dan to do because it was a personal phone call and they were talking offhandedly, and --
WILDMON: Yeah, so that was, you know -- when you're making a -- you know, when you -- if we were all quoted on things we say during the course of a day, offhanded, off the top of our head -- and I know he's talking to a reporter, but this is a private conversation on the phone between two friends, not a "OK, can I record you now? OK, we're on the record." You know? And what Dr. Dobson was saying, what you just said, I don't see anything wrong with it necessarily. He wasn't making a judgment about the guy's soul, he was just saying, "I'm not so sure" -- and I don't remember what -- if Fred Thompson's ever made a statement of faith or appeared at a Christian event. And I know his voting record -- best I remember, it was pretty conservative on the issues that we care about.
MINNERY: Yes, he is. And as it turns out, he is a member of the Church of Christ, been baptized, so he's a Christian man.
WILDMON: OK, all right. Well, there you go.















Dobson. "My reputation is given to me by the Lord. It's a blessing. I will not hoard the reputation."
God even gives you a reputation? Man, I might convert, that sounds easy. We Godless types have to work hard and establish good reputations.If I'd known God was just giving them away..
This Lord of theirs must be quite a guy. Giving out reputations to people, lending others talent, smiting the occasional miscreant.
I'm amazed that he has time to listen to those praying for more war and more tax cuts.
I propose a National week of no prayer. Not every week, but fairly often for an atheist I go to church, mainly to appease my wife of 20 years (one and only wife, take that you conservative atheist haters). Every time there are umpteen prayers for the same old things, peace, end hunger, cure Bob's liver cancer, yada yada yada. Maybe try a week or month with no prayer and compare results, that's what we would do over here in the reality science based community.
I propose a national week of no Dobson and no FOTF. Hell, ban them permanently - we'd all be much better off.
Praying to Jehovah, a god of war and death and prejudice and hatred, doesn't seem to be working, does it? One prays to a god (or goddess) of peace, not war, if one wants peace. Personally, I think it's time for the human race to get new gods. The old ones aren't taking us where we want to be. Guys like Dobson and Falwell, they pray to a god of bigotry and preach his bigotry and push others to be the bigots they are. They preach his hatred, and get hatred in return. I pray to Freya, a goddess of fertility, of growth and nurturing, of love and life. I preach her love, and get love in return. A happy caring beautiful Swedish goddess or an angry spiteful bitter Hebrew god. I think the choice is very clear. Eglo Freya!
Dobson (and his "evangelical" ilk) pray to the twin Gods of MONEY and POWER. They call it "Christianity".
Thompson obviously is not a Christian by Dobson's standards, since that would require Thompson coming on his knees (or belly) to Dobson for Dobson's support and blessing. Since Thompson has not made that pilgrimage to obtain an annointing from the "evangelicals", then he cannot be a true Christian.
Simple enough?
Yes, HBL, you are a reputation trust-fund baby. Now don't go spending it all in one place, okay? According to Pocus in the Fanny, you have to mete out your malevolence so that your reputation fund is depleted slowly - as Dobson does, spending a little bit here on promoting ignorance and a little bit there covering for gay meth abusers. That way, your reputation fund will not be empty before you go to your greater reward without leaving your maliciousness spread among the largest possible area of society.
Well a good reputation is harder to KEEP than to GET.
I believe there is a commandment rlating to Dobson, Wildmon, et al.: Do not take the Lord's name in vain. I try not to presume what's in someone else's heart--but if ever two people needed a good smiting, these two miscreants do!
After a spokesman for Thompson rebuked Dobson, asserting that Thompson was baptized and is a member of the Church of Christ, a Focus on the Family spokesman, Gary Schneeberger, stood by Dobson's remarks and told Gilgoff: "We use that word -- Christian -- to refer to people who are evangelical Christians.
Wow- CoC and baptized ain't good enough. These guys are like the Green Berets of Christianity.Maybe those "free reputations" aren't that easy to get.
Not the "Green Berets of Christianity" more like our pals the Muslim Brotherhood. If they ever get their prayers answered and homosexuality is crimminalized, it won't be long till they'll have our women covered head to toe and stoned to death if they stray from strict male obediance.
Like I use the word *human* to describe those who ACT like human beings. Dobson doesnt qualify.
I used to work in Colorado Springs, home of James Dobson and FoKKKus On The Family. If there was ever a person who deserved a life of obscurity it is him, and if there was ever an organization that deserves to be eradicated, it's Focus. Dobson and FOTF are the personification of everything that's wrong with this country.
Tim Wildmon is a Christian in name only - he doesn't walk the walk. And I heard Focus on the Family's Tom Minnery on local talk radio meny times when I lived in teh area - he's a scumbag liar, too.
Any time people have to resort to lies, deceit, and shady deals to advance their religious agenda, you can be damn sure their agenda isn't religious at all. It's all about power, and they're trying to amass power in Jesus's name.
Gigantic egos run amok. I was at the Warren "ministry" for Christmas eve service a few years ago and Warren introduced Dobson who was attending the service, huge resounding applause. These mega ministries have strayed so far from true Christianity that in my view they are the false prophets warned about in the bible. There is no way Jesus would accept these megalomaniacs as disciples.
Minnery: "I don't think it was a proper thing for Dan to do because it was a personal phone call and they were talking offhandedly, and -- "
Uh, since this was private phone call maybe Mr. Dobson could respond to this himself (guess not).
Wildmon: "Yeah, so that was, you know -- when you're making a -- you know, when you -- " Wow, that deserves a Scooby-Doo "Huh?"
These dottering old men (Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, et al.) are like your poor old grandfather who can't be left alone for a minute lest he walk outside in his underwear. And their damage controllers must be in a perpetual state of palm smashing forehead.
Too funny.
"Dr. Dobson wasn't expressing a personal opinion about his reaction to a Thompson candidacy; he was trying to 'read the tea leaves' about such a possibility."
Wow, not only can Dobson hate on command, he's now psychic? I wonder if he wears those fancy shawls with the little beads hanging off? (BTW I'm nearly 99.9% sure the bible says something about that practice (also hording wealth, taking the lords name in vain, hating people, getting involved in politics, etc.)
As I understand it. The bible says God is the judge and decider, not man. Also there's a passage, that I and my Christian friends always understand to mean, that while you may not like the laws of the land you live in, don't get involved in politics. Its ok to live there, as long as you are a good Christian and follow God's laws in your own home. (I believe its in a section about Ceaser).
Also for truly religious individuals getting involved in politics is a bad move. It tends (even way back then) to corrupt people. Those who claim to be religious and political, are usually BS artists, using religion.
"The bible says God is the judge and decider"
ADMcCain, I guess you haven't heard that there's a new decider in town.
God, being the terrific manager that He is, is just delegating authority. All of the great ones do this.
And after all young George is only the decider, because he's the one God chose to be "our' decider. You know, that Higher Father, the one that GW is always yammering about.
Ah, I get it. GW is like a department store Santa. Jesus' helper.Elf-in-Chief? Executive Angel?
This is (was?) a part of a media campaign launched in Colorado Springs. Cute puppy.
Norman
Hopefully they will bring Fred into the fold so that he can become as good a liar as they sre.
BuyingVowels, do you mean phelps?
Better be careful mentioning him if you do. Southern Poverty and other groups mention his interesting tactics (beyond the protests, and hate speech).
Like the multiple lawsuits he and his children (most of whom are lawyers) launch against anyone who says anything negative about them. Some courts have even banned him from filing suits, because his church at times has filed 10 or more civil lawsuits at one time against the same organization, media outlet or non-profit charity. Its really insane.
There's only two things I get out of this. One, Dobson is a liar and a bad one at that, but I guess for the sheep you don't need to be a good liar. And two why should anyone with a shred of sanity believe Dobson in any way has the capability or authority to decide who is a Christian or not.
And just in case you missed it the first couple of times I posted it.
www.respectmyresearch.org
or link
These scientists especially love Dobson, since most mention him in their letters and videos. Of course they are telling him to stop miss-quoting their research or to never mention them again.
Also Focus on (your own darn) Family is a big sponsor of ex-gay programs. A group called Soulforce has just helped create an organization to help those individuals who have gone through those programs deal with the psychological damage and trauma of those who go through these programs.(these programs do a lot of damage, and have about a 99.99999999% failure rate.)
They call it the Ex-gay Survivor's Network (or something like that)