Savage called Media Matters "a gay smear sheet," CEO David Brock "a psychopath"
On the April 11 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage referred to Media Matters for America as "a gay smear sheet" and called Media Matters President and CEO David Brock "a psychopath in my opinion, who hates me." Savage read from an April 14, 2006, Media Matters item, which noted that Savage called the woman who alleged she was raped by Duke University lacrosse team members a "Durham dirtbag" and a "dirty, verminous black stripper," and that he also said, "This is the radical, feminist, lesbian agenda being acted out on our campuses in a witch-hunt manner against these white boys, very much like the socialist communist agenda being acted out on the American stage by the extras called the illegal aliens." After reading his previous comments, Savage stated: "That's me. I am proud to tell you I agree with every word that I said a year ago." Savage claimed that Media Matters "ought to apologize to me" -- presumably because of the April 11 decision to drop the sexual assault charges in the Duke case.
As Media Matters for America has documented, Savage has repeatedly claimed that Media Matters has an "obsession" with him and has referred to Media Matters as "a group of swine." As Media Matters has also noted, on the February 27 broadcast of his show, Savage called Media Matters "a gay website that attacks me every day."
The Savage Nation reaches more than 8 million listeners each week, according to Talkers Magazine, making it the third-most-listened-to talk radio show in the nation, behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and The Sean Hannity Show.
From the April 11 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: There is a gay smear sheet out there called Media Matters. It's run by a psychopath in my opinion, who hates me. Hates me. And here's what they said on April 14, 2006, trying to crucify me. The madmen at this gay smear sheet said:
Savage called alleged Duke rape victim a "dirty, verminous black stripper"
Summary: Michael Savage referred to the woman who alleged she was raped at a party attended by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "Durham dirt-bag" and "dirty, verminous black stripper" because, according to Savage, she "lied when she said she was raped at a party." Savage added that "[t]his is the radical, feminist, lesbian agenda being acted out on our campuses in a witch-hunt manner against these white boys, very much like the socialist communist agenda being acted out on the American stage by the extras called the illegal aliens," whom he also referred to as "brown supremacists."
That's me. I am proud to tell you I agree with every word that I said a year ago. They ought to apologize to me. But as you well know, the left has no conscience.
Stop it Savage
Now that Imus is gone with his hate, when will Savage be off the air? How is he allowed to smear people and spew homophoic and racial hate? His rhetoric is worse than Imus.
MSNBC fired him when he said thoes "get AIDS and die remarks" (I think it was those remarks). Not sure about this network he is on.
Talk Radio Network is not going to fire Savage. He has said nothing racist.
Unlike Savage,
IMUS did not have a loyal fan base, and he had no listeners. You'll never get rid of Savage, you dumb libs don't get it.
Moreover, I find it scary that you want to ban speech. We're not a communist Country.
This man Savage is a real Freak-job...
I mean, this guy is the real McCoy ... The spokesman of the new cowardly Republican party.
"The spokesman of the new cowardly Republican party"
Wrong: He speaks for the Independent Conservative.
If by "Independent Conservative" you mean "Total Nutjob", then I'd have to agree.
Savage is an independent, not a Republican. He constantly bashes the GOP. Are you paying attention?
The way the GOP portray themselves is really just watered-down Weiner. He shows what they're really like underneath the sugar-coating, which is why they don't want to invite him over to play.
i must disagree with your statment that dr. savage is cowardly. first of all he is not the spokesman for the republican party, and i will give you that the republican party is week. he is the spkesman for me and every other white hetorosexual male in the united states. i belive he is a very brave man. to stand up and say what he is saying, in a liberal biased media. even standing up for imus when he admits he doesn't like him. if you are going to make comments about him you should listen to his show for about a week, and see if you change your opinion........ i did!
Please don't insult white, heterosexual men by associating them with Mr. Wiener. I am white and straight, but, unlike you and Mikey, I am not afraid of homosexuals. At the matter of fact, let's tell it like it is: the surest sign of being "in the closet" is homophobia. So, all you straight men out there who live in fear of the "gay agenda," perhaps you should take a deep look within, rent some gay porn, and figure out where your sexual interests truly lie.
Mike is not in fear of the homosexuals; far from it He is sick of the media kowtowing to their radical agenda. That's all.
"Moreover, I find it scary that you want to ban speech"
I agree completely. It scares me as well. David Brock may be the biggest anti-free speech advocate in the media today. The neo-fascist anti free speech movement is gaining in power everyday and it scares me. We are becoming more and more like a Communist country.
Kahpeetaleest peegs! In Kommunist Amerika, speech will be outlawed! All kommunication will be done via sign language and AOL Instant Messenger!
Right after we have socialist gay marijuana written into the Constitution, that is. Viva la revolution!
You guys have ZERO understanding of the first amendment. THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ISSUE HERE. NONE WHATSOEVER. Savage can spout his insane rantings on any streetcorner or on any soapbox in any park he chooses. There is no RIGHT nor guarantee to the use of OUR airwaves nor of employment. Those are not freespeech issues. How often does this need to be pointed out? When someone suggests ARRESTING Savage just because he is insane I will be on your side, most liberals will. Until then you just keep repeating this long debunked nonsense because you have no ACTUAL point.
The REAL point is that once again SAVAGE has got you all fired up and foaming at the mouth about his antics.
And, once again, he was dead on about this Duke non-rape story.
Get over yourself, if only for once.
Not the point I was responding to. Savage illicits nothing from me but pity for his obvious insanity. MMFA didnt say Weinerdog was wrong, they exposed his bigotry and jumping the gun. He may have been right he was still racist and hateful. Even insane rantings will once in a blue moon get one right. Except you rightwing morons when talking about the first amendment. I notice you didnt address the point I actually made just did what you usually do. Make a weak jab since you couldnt HOPE to make a cogent argument. Weinerdog is insane, Weinerdog worshippers are just sad and pathetic. YOU arent worth the scrapings off my boot.
So what he was right!
What it had made any difference if he was wrong? NO.
He was right about the case, fine. But what did that have to do with feminist lesbian agendas?? what did that have to with brown supremacy?? Why couldn't he have made the point that there wasn't a lot of evidence without linking this one case falsely to these massive fictitious conspiracy agendas??
I believe that there were feminist lesbians who condemned the Duke lacrosse players without even looking at the facts of the case. Savage even played audio of such people. He was likely referring to that.
Even assuming at least one openly lesbian feminist spoke on the issue irrationally and Weiner got a hold of the audio, how does that justify his grouping all lesbians and feminists into one group and then smearing them?
Blah blah blah. And WE were dead on about the war, and WMDs, and halliburton's theivery. Does that mean that you're going to appologize for your stupid treatment of those of us who predicted this mess? I bet not.
Well said, Solon.
The same freedom that MMFA enjoys in criticizing Savage is the same freedom that Savage exploits when he bashes Melissa Ethridge.
Funny how it's OK for Savage to bash the heck out of celebrities but it somehow becomes an infringement on free speech when Savage is called out by MMFA.
Savage won't be fired though, Salon.
I agree that the government does have some power to regulate the public airwaves. However, the government can't throw Savage off of the radio just for saying something that some people find offensive.
I dont care. You dont see me calling for him to be fired. I dont care one way or another. I am ok letting the people decide when and if they have had enough. I am only supporting our RIGHT to inject OUR opinions on how OUR airwaves are used and pointing out that it ISNT a free speech issue until he is being silence on the street or arrested for his point of view.
Rhino,
I think Savages' Gay hating butt is going to be next. WE EVIL LIBS are going to flood his sponsors and tell them we won't buy the crap they sell if they advertise on Savage's "three hours of hate". Then again his sponsors probably only sell white sheets, hoods , and ropes and they won't care.
That was good Lynn. Sheets and ropes, I love it.
Liberals are in the minority Lynn, you wont get Savage off. The "Racist" comment Imus made was not the real reason he was fired. He was old, and washed up. The Corporate mongols just threw liberals and race baiters (Al "always out to bait the Great White Anything " Sharkton) a bone. Plain and simple.
Liberals are in the minority.
So I guess that explains the Democrats controlling the House and Senate as well as the President's astonishingly low support.
I said Liberals. Did I say Democrats?
Actually polls show that liberals are the largest voting bloc in the Democratic party.
BTW, there where quit a few non democrats that voted dems in, me being one of them. Do not give your party tribe that much credit to the win. Came from all sides.
You guys sound like the cowardly villain near the end of the movie. "Give up. You can't win!" Right before your loyal henchmen all desert you and the hero deactivates your Secret Weapon.
I suppose once you realize you're not going to convince us that Weiner is a good guy, you'll climb into your escape pod yelling "You'll never catch me!" and blast off until the sequel.
Where did I try to convince you? It would be a waist of my time trying to convince a over zealous person like yourself anything.
YOUR zealotry is as apparant as Weiners insanity
Let's not forget that Sharpton is a racist too. He's quite the hypocrite.
Democrats controlling the House and Senate doesn't make liberals the majority. President Bush is not a conservative, btw. The GOP lost congress because it's not a conservative party. Conservatives stayed home and didn't vote.
You cannot support the contention that the GOP lost because they were not conservative enough. Its a prevalent talking point but it doesnt stand up to scrutiny. No Dem emcumbent lost including the most liberal. An outright Soclialist and many liberals beat Republicans along with some conservative Dems. The GOP lost because this administration, which I agree isnt really conservative has shown it cannot govern. The party paid for that.
Whine d' jour, eh? Well, neither MMFA nor libs/Dems in general wish to ban your speech! You just go ahead and let loose and we promise to amplify your speech to such extent that your mother will perish of shame, your neighbors will shun you, and your children (if you have any) will commit you. Your idea of "speech" will serve far better than any rebuttal we who "don't get" it, might offer, to undo you.
The only thing we might not do is PAY you to lie, insult, and demean; you'll have to find your own sponsors for a paycheck.
You ignorant conservatives really get it right? As if Weinerdogs insanity is more palatable because there are a bunch of Weinerdog worshippers who actually take his insane rantings seriously. No this ISNT a communist country but the AIRWAVES belong to US, and we get to voice our opinion on how they are used. You fascist morons never seem to get that.
But Mike has a radio show and, as far as I know, you don't.
I wonder why? Maybe Mike has TALENT and you don't- except to call him insane, and anyone who listens to him, a moron.
You resemble you own comments to a "T."
Doris, he has no racial hate. He's never said anything racist on his show. Why should he be thrown off the air? How is he hurting you? I thought that liberals were in favor of letting people say what they want.
Btw, Media Matters does owe Savage an apology. He was absolutely right about the lying stripper. He's a genius. He knew that she was lying months before anybody else in the media "got it."
Why did Media Matters post my comment all the way back here?
As for your comment's placement, maybe you replied to the wrong post?
Doris, he has no racial hate. He's never said anything racist on his show. - I beg to differ. And that was just from the second page of all the Weiner articles from MMFA.
Why should he be thrown off the air? How is he hurting you? I thought that liberals were in favor of letting people say what they want. - How is he hurting me? Not personally, but he is polluting my airwaves. He can say whatever he'd like, he just shouldn't be promoted in such a way.
Btw, Media Matters does owe Savage an apology. He was absolutely right about the lying stripper. He's a genius. He knew that she was lying months before anybody else in the media "got it." - The problem wasn't his crazy accusation, it was the hateful way he put it, not to mention the way he used it to smear every group he disagrees with. And how does his being right make him a "genius"? Sounded to me like he just pretended the whole issue was exactly the way he wanted it to be, and ranted as if it were so, and got a lucky coincidence.
Doris
Please be the judge of all and let us learn how you are so wise. It must be a great burden to know so much and need to control so many to save us all.
I Guess That Means Savage Hopes This Web Site Gets Aids & Dies.
Ugh, thanks for reminding me over the great AIDS debate I had with Autolycus... I wonder if he'll show his face for this article. I hope he can tell us whether or not you can catch AIDS from the internet!
Nope. He wants this siteto keep talking about him . Wanna bet he reads every thread in here.
Hiya Mike. Congrats on the new LA station KLAA. How about playing some cool LA music tonite on R'n'R Friday.
Good. The wider his coverage the sooner will come that inevitible day when the men in white coats come with the butterfly nets and the massive doses of Haldol that Weiner so desperatly needs.
Quite a persecution complex you've got there Doctor Weiner. For someone who can dish it out you've got an awfully thin skin.
I don't hate you. I doubt Mr. Brock does either. You seem to hate what you've become, which is a sad, old guy ranting on the radio. The only thing that makes you different than the homeless guy ranting on the corner is your salary. Here's a little advice, put some money aside for a rainy day. You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. (Apologies to Joni)
Yeah, we don't hate Weiner...
What's the use wasting energy hating a pathetic nutbag anyway?
What gay(s) got smeared?
Oh, do you think he means Jeff Gannon?
See? Told ya he couldn't keep it in. It's in his nature to spew. tick, tick, tick...
Hey Savage: if I owe you an apology, you'll have to wait in line.
Still ahead of you, swine (offended by reference to you as a); nuts (upset that I said you were); also demons, spawn of Satan, all-mouth-no-sense, crude, By the time I finish all those ahead of you in line, I may even expire unapologized.
Now thats a really hard question. As Savage identifys the site as a gay smear sheet run by a psychopath. Its got possibilties. I just couldn't say where best to start. Which is common with a lot of conservative rhetoric. A real legal opinion would be interesting.
Some people say that hatemongers like Savage, Coulter, and Limbaugh are pretending.
The recently deceased Vonnegut said that one should be wary of pretending, for we become what we pretend to be.
By the way, Savage is bragging that he has had over seven million people "vote" on his web site for him to run for President.
Well, I visited his polling site and it's a frickin' joke. One can vote as many times as they like. he could have given some high school kid a Savage hat or mug and have him vote "yes" every day.
There is no mechanism to prevent multiple votes (on either yes or no). Now, it would be legitimate if one were required to enter an email address...then I'd believe that lyin' sack.
Sure, I know, it's possible for people to sit at their computer and vote "no", as well, but that would take time and interest. What person who dislikes Savage would expend such time and energy on such a stupid task? Besides, he could "Doctor Savage" those numbers , as well.
Savage. What a dick.
I tried to vote more than once on his site but couldn't.
I gotta say President is right on this one, I couldn't vote more than once myself. But then again, variations between web browsers differ (I use Firefox, 'cuz I'm too geeky for IE, but not geeky enough for Opera).
Did you try on different days? It would also be easy enough to vote from YOUR computer then your friends then at the library mulitiple time, at school multiple times Inernet Cafes. There are a lot of computers out there. This is why internet polls are meaningless
Uh-oh.
I just imagined Savage in his grave, his lips sewn shut and the black goo that once flowed through his vessels replaced by embalming fluid. Still, Savage tries to speak, as hate dies hard:
Die, Fa...
Stinkin' Bit...
Filthy Wetba...
Luckily, for decent people, he's in his coffin, more than muffled by cement and soil.
But those who loved his loathing gather on the ground above him, pressing their ears to the soil, hoping to hear a few more syllables of the racism and sexism and homobigotry that constituted his life. Hearing nothing, they go home and try to figure how one sews a sheet into a pointy hat and whether one cuts holes for the nostrils too.
As far as Duke, doesn't Savage read the news? That prosecuter is likely to be disbarred. And sued. And he's certainly being shamed.
Holly, gonna hang around awhile? Your presence has been sorely missed!
Probably, Snoop mah dawg. I have just been so horribly busy. I've missed you guys too.
You're a jewel Holly, I missed you too
Mwaaah!
How's your book doing?
Thanks for asking. The first printing sold out, but since it's a seasonal book, they're delaying the second printing until next fall.
What about the woman who falsely accused the men of rape? She should be arrested.
If they can establish and prove it was a false claim and made maliciously yes she should be arrested.
Wait...
Didn't The Savage Weiner say recently that he was NEVER going to mention Media Matters on his show again????
Guess that was another tall tale by The Savage Weiner...
I guess he noticed that the threads were waning and needed a jump start and ,..POOF.
Wait, you're admitting Weiner is a lying, egotistical whackjob?
Somebody must've hacked into Checkers' account and is now making false posts under his name!
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
When a sociopath is a public commentator, and he/she wishes to make points of morality, or social standards of civility they need to both be the victim and perpetrator simultaneously! They are unnessarily loud and bombastic so as to some how virtues of their performance should rationalize, and camoflage their ovbivous hypocracy,and lies to themselves, and their audience!
When a commentator has the intellect of the kind of Mr. Savage the question becomes why has he adopted the absurd to be his message?? Does he see it as a challenge to sell the big lie on his own terms? What is the motives that fuel such obvious denial??
Who cares, he should be possing these questions to a shrink, not on the public airways!!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
What a dummy I am, I completely missed it!
I had no idea you guys were so 'gay'.
But now in retrospect, I can see it... all the signs were there, clear as day:
1. Fashionably attired.
2. Well-groomed.
3. Polite and well-mannered.
4. Drinks wine, and knows how to pronounce French words correctly.
5. Owns a small dog (small enough to bathe in a city apartment's kitchen sink).
6. Concerned enough with America, and the American People, to spend their days monitoring the privately-owned "media" for Democracy-threatening propaganda and misinformation and lies even.
...it's all there plain as day.
All the signs are there: You're as Gay as the 1890's!
I should have seen it earlier... I'm such a dummy.
Quick question for ya'll, Where in the constitution does it say "you have the right to not be offended"? Most of you are comdemning his, as you say, "hate speech" with hate speech of your own. That's some dark twisted s**t HOLLY. But I could be wrong, maybe describing your morbid desire to watch Savage die is beautiful to you. Are you one of the lucky "decent" people? Haha. What "decent" person dreams about the death of someone they hate? Well I guess that would be you. Wow! on a side note, do you by chance listen to any rap music?
That would be right next to the passage that says you have the right to say and do things that deny others the right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. What's that you say, it ain't there? Oopsy...
Oh, Jazz. I don't want to watch Savage die, but we all die someday and when someone as accustomed to hating as Savage dies, I just imagined that his lips might want to hate on. And his fans might want to hear more hatred from his lips. Hatred and adulation of hatred linger after the last breath.
To edge away from dark humor, I think Savage is caught. He's been in the role of hatemeister for so long that he can't stop. These might be problematic times for hatemongers, but still Savage has to hate and do it publicly and proudly. I wish he could repent. Truly. George Wallace repented and whereas some people wouldn't accept his sorrow for the suffering he inflected, I did.
There is no right not to be offended. There IS a right to RESPOND to insane bigots who offend us. This isnt that complicated. When Wienerdog begins the attacks he can expect them back. That is how it works. Whether you like it or not doesnt matter one little bit.
There IS a right to RESPOND to insane bigots who offend us.
Which you do in an expert fashion. You spew your hatered and bigotry post after post without ever thinking what it does to others. When you use 'weinerdog' your hate of Jewish people comes out like liberals at a gay convention. If you're going to be a racist, Jew hater go find your own area of the world to cower in, nobody needs your kind of hatred brought out in public. It's disgusting and vial. You don't have the right to spew your hate and bigotry, so stop it!
Dear Autopsychic,
I'm holding a mirror up to you. Assuming that you cast a reflection at all, and skipping over the poor spelling ("hatered," "vial"), it's frankly comical to see you, in this amazing little rant, accusing anyone else of "spewing." Furthermore, "weinerdog" has nothing to do with Jewish people, so your claim that anyone here "hates" them indicates very poor mind-reading skills. You may be "Auto" something, but it surely isn't "psychic"; "Autopilot" to reflect your thinking skills would be more appropriate.
Wow, I mean I knew you were stupid and deluded but where do you get anything about Jew hatred by me calling him Weinerdog? Its a play on his name. What has that go to do with Jews? It would certainly be news to my Jewish WIFE that I hate Jews. She never noticed it before. Look, you dont have to try so hard to prove you are an ignorant moron. Thats already done. We have come to terms with that but a minimum level of coherence would be appreciated. That way when we spank you again like we do every time you post it can be more amusing and educational. We can make an actual point. When you just spew random ignorance like a dog marking territory we can only shake our heads and wonder aloud if Weinerdog worshippers contract insanity FROM Weiner or if its only that insane morons are more likely to BE Weinerdog worshippers. Simply put, in deferency to you Autopsychotic, its a chicken or egg thing. As for me going somewhere, I know you have delusions of adequacy but you arent my mother or my boss and you dont get to tell me what to do. I mean you can try but it just elicits howls of laughter from me, along with the natural pity I feel for anyone as ignorant and deluded as you are.
Solon, it's not pronounced WEENER, it's WINER ( As in a hard "I").
Therefore, your play on words fails on that count.
I refer to him as the Whiny Hiney Weiner
Right. Neither do you.
I dont claim to matter, nor pretend to, notice I dont have a nationally syndicated radio show. While I may not matter I can take solace in the knowlege that unlike YOU I do have a fully functioning cerebral cortex which allows me to do more than second grade sniping. All you do is display your abject stupidity whenever you post. Go play nice with the other challenged children.
"Where in the constitution does it say "you have the right to not be offended"?"
If want to be so dogmatic about your right to be a jerk, I guess an argument could be made that such a gaurantee exists. It's in there nestled between the words that gaurantee our right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Now, Mr Savage has me pissed off. How dare he call me gay..I always liked being called VERMIN...Come one, Doc Savage, I like being vermin call me vermin tomorrow, I dare you. My gay friends like to call me vermin right after they call me a psychopath.
I'll try to listen to you tomorrow..please call me vermin and I'll vote for you not only for President but also as*hole of the New Millenium.
P.S. JAZZPOLICE, I'll dream that Savage dies unless he calls me vermin. ALSO, why does Savage get to set the line for hate speech and when someone else approaches that line, people like you are there to point it out but never decry his HATE...besides, I like Holly's morbid desires.
And are you GAY, a Psychopath or vermin for viewing this site...just asking.
Alas, Prince, I have no morbid desires. Only morbid dreams. I think of was thinking of inertia, the tendency of something to continue doing what it has always done. So, when Savage one day succumbs to progressive hardening of the heart and congestion of his cerebral circuits, wouldn't his mouth want to continue hating? That's inertia. And wouldn't his fans want to continue hearing fellow citizens and fellow homo sapiens reduced to slurs? Thus, the dark dream.
Some one famous said: walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you; he who walks in darkness does not know where he is going.
Go back to the light, holly. Maybe you want to continue avoiding the darkness of this site. So much hate and violence being advocated here, it cannot be 'of the light' so it must be 'of the darkness'.
Just skipping over your false dichotomy, I mean if we addressed your every logical fallacy we wouldnt have time for anything else. Are you really taking Holly to task here for a post slapping at the world Champion hater Weinerdog? WHILE accusing US of hating? If anyone is from the darkside it is the Insane Weinerdog and that is apparant for anyone to see. I notice that during your semi coherent attacks on US for our criticisms of him you never seem to take the insanity spewed by the Weinerdog to task similarly. I never have seen anyone in HERE advocate killing one hundred million people. Ah but I forgot, in your world defined by your simplemindedness you CANT take Wienerdog to task. In the world of false dichotomies he MUST ALWAYS be right or he would be from the darkness and then because we attack him we would be from the light and since you attack US.... Oh what a tangle synaptic web you weave when you leave reality as far behind as you have.
Ahh, autopsychic, you're thinking of me! You wish me well! You want me to be a place where my leaves will unfurl and I'll wave in the wind. However, I'm not just a mere photosythenthisizer. I luminesce! So, come bathe in my progressive light. The mold on your mind will shrink before such radiance. You might even sprout a few leaves of your own.
I still get a kick out of imaginging Savage, in 20 or 30 years, being felled by time, but still trying to hate from his grave, and his fans pressing their hairy ears to the ground, hoping for a few more syllables of hate.
However, I do believe in grace. I do believe that Savage and his sycohpants could repent their many sins and learn to love someone other than white, straight people.
In the same way Diogenes woke up every day in Greece and set out to find an honest man. I love an optimist.
Mis-worded in the comment...hope I don't get fired. Mea Culpa
Why would I care what he says or you for that matter? If you don't like it don't listen to it. I think it is you who is setting the bar for "hate speech" what is laughable is that you are using Savage, the guy you hate because of his hate speech, to justify your own hate speech. hahaha. sorry had to take another bong rip. HAHA. Think about that PRINCE Oh and SNOOPY, the way you used the word oopsy was very offensive and it hinders my pursuit (noticed I spelled it correctly so you don't flunk out of women's lib english with a dash of communism 101) of happiness.
Oh no! The last stand of the reich winger. Argument debunked? Bring up spelling. Good thing webster's is online, makes it easier for you to find the correct spelling for two syllable words, doesn't it?
Notice I waited until you spewed crap before I insulted you back. Think about that...
Hey, jazz, what's women's lib english?
It's "women's lib english with a dash of communism 101". And I feel slighted, as I worked very hard for my 'A' in that class!
What struck me as odd isn't just the joining of "women's lib," "english," and "communism 101." It's that "women's lib" is so archaic. I haven't heard that phrase for years. I'm surprised he didn't work "long-haired hippy" or "peacenik" into his amalgam. He can't have been perseverating about them libbers all these decades, can he?
I'm surprised he didn't work "long-haired hippy" or "peacenik" into his amalgam.
If he added that plus something along the lines of "with their noses stuck in sci-fi books instead of the Bible" he would've had me described to a T.
Not to be too picky, Jazz, but I think you need to brush up on the Wingnut Style Guide if you're going to continue posting at this site.
Ha ha ha is not the preferred way of expressing derisive laughter. While technically not incorrect, it is rather precyber. The more current mode is LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Your welcome.
No one in America approaches Weinerdogs level of hatespeech. AND he uses OUR airwaves to do it. I feel sorry for the guy. He is demonstrably insane. I think its only a matter of time before he ends up in a rubber room knitting something that isnt there.
You are conveniently omitting many people like oh , I don't know,.. one that comes to mind is.... Al Sharpton.
When you can cough up a quote of Al Sharpton saying we need to kill one hundred million people get back to me. Until then I will file this with the rest of your delusions. I am no fan of Sharpton, I think his overheated rhetoric is counterproductive and I dont really like him much, however he is a chiorboy in the hatespeech marathon compared to the Insane Weinerdog.
Word is Al was the motivation behind the riot that burnt down a store and killed 7 I think it was?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1995/12/09/MN74133.DTL
I understand your offense at Savage boys words, but Al is far worse. Savage is not even remotly connected to any deaths brought on by his speech. Al, he has many skeletons.
Some people say, give me a break there is no connection made between Sharpton and this fire. Meanwhile where is your showing of Sharpton advocating the killing of one hundred million people? Sharpton isnt in the same universe when it comes to hatespeech as Weinerdog. He is in a class of his own.
Savage throw out racist accusations that have directly affected people like this?
1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.
1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.
If your point is you dont like Sharpton join the club. If you keep trying to pretend this kind of thing is worse than Weinerdog saying we ought to kill one hundred million people or other bits of Weiner insanity, you have lost all touch with reality.
okay now that you have thouroughly insulted me. please respond to the main point....oh wait are you gonna throw more of your quick wit at me.
Which point? About constitutional rights? I answered your hypothetical with a hypothetical. Not good enough?
Or was it about listening to rap? Don't, won't. Point?
Or is it about what you perceive as hate speech? Hmm, should I be like Coulter and Co and say it was just a joke, tongue in cheek?
Nah, I'll just respond to that by asking why should I keep turning the other cheek when it is reichwingers accusing me of being non-christian to begin with? If I'm as they say, I don't have to conform to Jesus' wish and can respond any way I like regardless of civility. If I am a christian, the reich tells us we can do unto others in response to perceived threats - since the reich threatens liberals daily, our elevated response is justified. Either way, I am now covered by a cloak of invincibility. Don't you wish you had one too?
What a wonderful riposte! No extra motion at all, yet sliced like a ham, and cut the heart right out!
The only point you made is that you have NO understanding whatsoever what constitutes freedom of speech.
Where's the Savageforpresident guy?
I dunno, he was here for the last Weiner-fest (9/11 was God's punishment, I believe was the Weiner rant in question).
I think Weinerforpresident, Weinerrocks, Braid(somethingorother) and Whereismiddleamerica (formerly Evil Lib) all got bounced after the 9/11 thread.
It was like a rabid dog contest. Each trying to outdo the other, defending the indefensible.
I do miss Evil though. He and I didn't agree, but for the most he wasn't a die hard looney.
Iflurry, I just came across this story now. BTW, I only comment on Savage threads. I have no interest in any other media personality. I won't come to the defense of O'Reilly, Rush, Hannity, or anybody else.
Sorry, didn't mean to call you out. Just sayin' I hadn't seen you at the time. Funny though, how you won't come to anyone else's defense when no other media personality in recent memory has said 9/11 was a message from God because America tolerates gays.
Regardless, why don't you browse around more? I take at least a quick peek here and there, before I get my daily dose of Colbert, Stewart, and Olbermann.
Geez guys I'm sorry...
Somebody left Mikey's cage unlocked and well we've been looking for him all day. I kinda figured we'd find him here.
Oh and that stuff he's been spewing, just ignore him. What he really meant to say was that his show is gay and that he's a psychopath. He didn't take his meds today.
Come on Mikey let's go home....
Did you bring the big coat with the long arms that fasten in the back? I think, somewhere in the back of his mind (way back in the empty space), he is waiting for an Imus-like attack. Gawd knows he seems to deserve it.
It is a smear sheet.
She is a dirty dirtbag.
MMFA should apologize for crucifying the accused.
I looked at the archives of the Duke case on MMFA, MMFA is pathetic.
Yeah, how dare MMFA accuse Weiner of using hateful remarks! Oh wait...
So as the case checks out, the "victim" was really a lair, specifically about a heinous crime, making her an especially heinous liar. I guess it's okay to smear her, then. I suppose it also excuses the slam on lesbians, feminists, and illegal immigrants. Oh, and his apparent confusion of communism and socialism, both of which are also responsible for a bogus rape charge.
I can't wait to see Weiner's plans for a submarine with screen doors, I'm sure it makes even more sense than his "logic"!
No they arent pathetic. Its just a moron like you, with no capacity to understand the POINT, mistakes MMFA pointing out Weinerdog's malicious bigotry and insanity as support for the case itself. Being so simpleminded you cannot understand anything that strays outside the black/white frame. So many wingnuts so few braincells
Being so simpleminded you cannot understand anything that strays outside the black/white frame. So many wingnuts so few braincells
And WHAT point is that? The point that you spew your hatefullness under the guise that since it's about Savage it's ok? You hypocrit! Maybe it's about time you back up your statements with fact, instead of whinning about people legally stating their opinion. These airwaves are mine as much as yours, I approve of Savage using them, and so do millions more. But only a few hundred approve of you spewing hate on your web site.
The last throes of the unhinged. It's sad, really.
I made the point. Its not my fault your substandard brain couldnt fathom it. Let me try to dumb it down to your level. MMFA thread not about Duke rape case. Thread about Weiner insanity, bigotry, racist slurs. Duke case only context not relevant. Whether Lacrosse players guilty or not irrelevant to Weinerdogs racist smears. Criticising them NOT accusing players.
There find a five year old to explain it to you. The difference between YOU and I, is that I am not saying YOU shouldnt voice your support of Weiners insanity and YOU are saying I shouldnt voice my opposition. See again a simple concept that probably will go far above your head. You really are stupid. I mean galactic level stupid. I miss the days when people were ashamed to be as ignorant and intellectually challenged as you are instead of proudly exhibiting it in a wierd condescending way that defies common sense then acting like they deserve a cookie. You really are among the most amusing posters here. Educational too. You know I want to thank you. I sometimes think I have dredged the well of human stupidity. I am indebted to you for coming along and reminding me that it is TRULY a bottomless well.
How was Savage being racist in his attack on the stripper? He attacked her because she lied, not because she's black. He also verbally attacked the white woman who falsely accused black basketball star Kobe Bryant of rape. The stripper ruined people's lives; she deserved what was said about her by Savage.
Savage is right about brown supremacists too. He's not racist against Hispanics. He has no problem with a Hispanic person (or anyone else) who immigrates to America legally with the intent to assimilate into this great country. Savage is against illegal alien criminals who want to "take back Mexican land" and spit on America. As Savage says, the term "La Raza" is racist; it means "The Race." The La Raza organization does believe that brown people are superior to everybody else. This should not be tolerated. Savage for President.
The La Raza organization does believe that brown people are superior to everybody else. This should not be tolerated.
What're you gonna do, declare war on Mexico?
I took his repeated mention of the KKK and calling her a dirty, verminous black stripper to be racist not to mention the weird interjection about the brown supremacy claim in the middle of THIS which defies context unless its a racist one. All that I took as racist.
Why are you allowed total immunity from your disrespectful, and shameful remarks to other posters?
Are you a plant who is allowed carte blanche?
Methinks so.
<>SAVAGE WAS RIGHT!! Savage called alleged Duke rape victim a "dirty, verminous black stripper"; described illegal immigrants as "brown supremacists"Summary: Michael Savage referred to the woman who alleged she was raped at a party attended by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "Durham dirt-bag" and "dirty, verminous black stripper" because, according to Savage, she "lied when she said she was raped at a party." Savage added that "[t]his is the radical, feminist, lesbian agenda being acted out on our campuses in a witch-hunt manner against these white boys, very much like the socialist communist agenda being acted out on the American stage by the extras called the illegal aliens," whom he also referred to as "brown supremacists."During the April 11 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage referred to the woman who alleged she had been raped at a party attended by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "Durham dirt-bag" and "dirty, verminous black stripper" because, according to Savage, she "lied when she said she was raped at a party." Savage's comments came after the results of initial [link to www.abcnews.go.com] face="Times New Roman" size="3">DNA tests did not implicate any member of the Duke team. Declaring that the Duke case is evidence that "the cards are stacked against white males in America" because the "white leadership of America is out to lunch," Savage added: "This is the radical, feminist, lesbian agenda being acted out on our campuses in a witch-hunt manner against these white boys, very much like the socialist communist agenda being acted out on the American stage by the extras called the illegal aliens," whom he also referred to as "brown supremacists."Savage's reference to the "verminous ... stripper" came during the same broadcast in which he responded to a Media Matters for America item documenting his previous reference to illegal immigrants as "vermin."Both Duke and North Carolina Central University (NCCU), where the alleged rape victim is a full-time student, are located in Durham, North Carolina.
From the April 11 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:SAVAGE: The white male leadership of America is out to lunch, and because the white males of America are quaking on the golf courses, not realizing the danger they are in.[...]SAVAGE: There's another story that's very important to show you the twisting of justice in America, the lack of justice in America, and the viciousness of prosecutors in America, and how the cards are stacked against white males in America; and that is the case in North Carolina where a Durham dirt-bag made false accusations against members of a lacrosse team. DNA evidence was collected -- has proven to show that there was no reference to any rape.[...]SAVAGE: The DA in charge of the Duke University fake rape investigation said that he does not need DNA to bring charges and vowed, quote, "This case is not going away." All I can say is I hope that DA Mike">[link to www.ncdistrictattorney.org] Nifong goes away real fast, because he spoke one day after defense attorney said DNA testing failed to connect any of Duke's lacrosse players to the alleged attack on a black stripper who lied when she said she was raped at a party.[...]SAVAGE: We have here now the voice of a so-called student body president. Listen carefully.RENEE">[link to www.nccu.edu] CLARK (NCCU student body president) [audio clip]: Students at NCCU, alongside with students from Duke, know that it is time to come together to ensure that justice is served. No longer will sexual assault against women, sexual injustice, or any timeless -- or the timeless of due process be issues that render the legal outcome of current --
SAVAGE: Now, wait a minute. Hold on. This idiot can't even read a three-syllable word, but I think what this moron -- this sub-moron -- just said is that due process should have no bearing upon the outcome of the case because they're guilty, because she wants them to be guilty. Go ahead. Continue.CLARK [audio clip]: This entire ordeal has been played out in the media from evidential findings to the character of the parties involved.SAVAGE: Hold it. She said because of the character of the parties involved, they're guilty? Did you hear what this thing just said? This thing just said that their character has convicted them. This is the same person that if one of her brethren were brought into a court room, who had previously conducted crimes, these previous crimes would not be permitted to be issued as evidence, because it would be discriminatory or prejudicial, but she said she knows that they're guilty because of their character? Are you listening to what these people are saying to -- about these boys down there? Listen. Go ahead.CLARK [audio clip]: Things that the media has not turned its attention to is the commonality of incidences such as this on campuses worldwide, in our communities, in our nation, and around the world.SAVAGE: Hold on. Campuses worldwide are now going to influence the outcome of this case? This is the radical, feminist, lesbian agenda being acted out on our campuses in a witch-hunt manner against these white boys, very much like the socialist communist agenda being acted out on the American stage by the extras called the illegal aliens. I hope you understand what's going on in your country. And the reason it's happening, is because George Bush is such a weak leader, and because the Republicans have ceased to exist as a party that there is a power vacuum into which jump these opportunistic infections.[...]SAVAGE: So, it seems to me that there's a certain group of immigrants that's not very happy and they're all Hispanic. I don't see any other racial group out there in the streets, do you? Now, that's very interesting. I'm not allowed to raise the issue or the specter of brown supremacists behind these protests. Don't tell me this is all about compassion for immigrants, because it is not at all only about compassion for immigrants. They are trying to provoke the takeover of the United States of America, and what they're using is the ploy of compassion for immigrants all who all come here to work. I don't go for that rubbish.[...]SAVAGE: This DA needs to be thrown out of that city. He is worse than the Ku Klux Klan. He is a modern version of the Ku Klux Klan, which is the "Liberal Klux Klan." The LKK is far worse than the KKK. The "Liberal Klux Klan" is far more dangerous to your survival than the Ku Klux Klan because there are more members of the LKK than there are of the KKK. The LKK is behind the illegal aliens in the streets. The LKK is behind the degeneracy on our television sets. The LKK is behind the prognostication of defeat for the United States of America. They have an agenda, ladies and gentlemen. It is time to throw out the DA and accept that there was no DNA.[...]SAVAGE: Now, in America, you're supposed to be innocent until you're proven guilty. They take 20 boys, they take their DNA because a dirty, verminous black stripper says she -- the -- she was raped and beaten. They do the DNA, none of her -- none of their DNA is found on this woman.
SAVAGE WAS RIGHT
This was exactly a full year ago, and MMFA and all the bloggers on this cite attacked the lacross players. But, you people want to ban savage. It's sad, b/c if he were banned, we'd only have dumb organizations like MMFA attacking people who are innocent of any crime.
Weinerdog worshippers are SO stupid. I dont remember attacking the Lacrosse players. I remember saying that justice will take its course. I also remember taking Weinerdog to task for his bigoted and racist attacks. At the TIME he had no way of knowing which way it would turn out. Criticising Weinerdog for his hateful bigotry is NOT the same as accusing the lacrosse players. People with an actual functioning cerebral cortex have no problem seeing this distinction. Better luck for YOU next incarnation. Weinerdog is insane, get over it.
If justice had "taken it's course" like you wantyed it to these players would have been found guilty of everything they DIDN'T do.
You may have set a new record, Checkers.
If justice had "taken it's course" like you wantyed it to these players would have been found guilty of everything they DIDN'T do.
First, you misquoted Solon by putting in an incorrect word (it's).
Then you creamed the word "wanted."
In the same stroke you go in for some dreadfully poor mindreading (Solon never said what he wanted).
Then you go in for a bit of screaming with all caps.
You've packed a whole lot of foolishness into one little sentence. Don't you ever use the "Preview" button?
Preview is for wimps.
Solon is an idiot.
You want to go around correcting posts, go ahead.
Mike has a great radio show, and is right over 99% of the time.
<><> I am the greatest poster on this, or any other site 100% of the time.
<>Bloviate.
Ah, no. That isnt justice taking its course. Justice taking its course means the truth is discovered and either people are PROVEN guilty or they are assumed innocent and allowed to go back to their lives. Justice DID play out exactly as it was supposed to. It isnt finished. It looks like the prosecuter who pushed this case dispite the lack of evidence even it seems supressing exculpatory evidence might be disbarred. That is how it should be. I was never calling for anyones head for THAT reason. I assumed they were innocent until justice took its course. Hey, I know you have a problem with me, and thats fine. I might even deserve it but dont dig so deep to find something wrong with what I say when it isnt there. It just makes you look ridiculous.
I really don't know what to think of Savage anymore. It's like getting angry at an alligator or a shark.
Yeah a lot of people on the left hate Savage. He's hated because he just spits venom and throws quills at so many other people. The guy called a gay person a sodomite and wished AIDS on him, in front of a nationwide audience.
I think he only has a few more years left. The man can't be healthy with all the anger and bitterness that consumes him. That stuff eats away at you.
Ooops. It looks like there's a Savage groupie in the house. How much ya gettin' paid to troll this board?
A full year ago he knew the Duke Stripper was a wench. Then you losers bashed him and the lacross players. He was right.
Keep saying it, maybe it will come true!
He deserved bashing and YOU are a moron. You call us losers while you worship the Weinerdog who is insane. Talk about projection.
Wow!
Way to go Mr. Savage. Exercise that right to speak freely!
I especially liked the part where he accused the left of having no conscious. I guess he cannot see irony in that remark.
When will people learn that rights come with responsibilities? Maybe when they develop a conscious.
Or at least a memory (ring any bells Weiner-head?)
On his April 11 show (which is all it is),he called Cheney and Bush draft dodgers. Full marks!
Anyway, if Imus lost his job for what he's said, not only recently, he should share the unemployment line with Savage. That man is a disgrace.
If it's "just a show," then how is Savage a disgrace? He obviously didn't mean it when he said all of those things that offended you.
Of course, it's not "just a show." Savage does mean everything that he says. People who know Savage have stated that he expressed conservative views long before he had a talk radio show.
The fact that Savage called Bush and Cheney "draft dodgers" means that he's fair in his attacks. He attacks both parties. He's an independent, not a GOP lap dog.
Of course, it's not "just a show." Savage does mean everything that he says. People who know Savage have stated that he expressed conservative views long before he had a talk radio show. - Ah, I remember the time when all the most prominent conservative thinkers went swimming naked with Alan Ginsberg.
The fact that Savage called Bush and Cheney "draft dodgers" means that he's fair in his attacks. He attacks both parties. He's an independent, not a GOP lap dog. - How many times do we have to say this before you shut up about it: WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE BUSH. WE DON'T CARE. HE'S STILL A HATEMONGER.
I don't care what Savage did thirty or forty years ago. Dr. Laura also used to be a liberal, and Hillary Clinton was a Goldwater girl. It's the present that counts.
YOU are the one who brought up ancient history, not me.
True, but your mention of "ancient history" still doesn't prove that it's just an act by Savage. People do change over the years.
I just don't understand why this guy is still on the air. All the hate he says about woman and gays. Imus is a burp compared to this guy.
I am surprised woman and gays don't boycott his sponsors and radio stations.
What has Savage said about women?
Savage will never be fired. Talk Radio Network stands behind him. He's not an uneducated dolt like Imus. He's a genius with a Ph.D.
He called Boxer a harridan and a whore. Sawyer a whore and Walters a sl&t and vermin. Not to mention his snivelling when talking about Boxer about women bossing men around. He may be a bright man but he is still insane
You will never get rid of Savage. You will never get rid of Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity et. al. Don't you realize that when you attacked Imus, you attacked an "anti-war" advocate that supported John Kerry!! You idiots, you attacked one of your OWN. THEN, Barrack Hussein Obama, who was doing very well in the polls, had to open HIS mouth and declare Imus should be fired as well! lol. What do you think the Asian, Hispanic and White America is going to think of Hussein Obama now? Sure, you "got" Imus, but you destroyed your own side as well.
In the weeks that follow, Randi Rhodes will be attacked for her skit of the President being shot. Rappers will be deemed offensive and ordered to stop creating hate-filled songs. Shows like Southpark (which also mock the Right) will be asked to censor themselves. People like Rosi O'Donnell will have to tame her vitriol (who was doing a good job and I supported).
lol. Hope you enjoyed taking down Imus!!! Enjoy the high.
Even OUR bigots must be excised; Nation first, party next (If Imus was of any specific political affiliation, that is, as opposed to simply a total misanthrope blessed with a facile vernacular).
Unfortunatly, bigotry starts at a very young age, in the home, from parents that are bigots. I don't think people like Imus create bigots, they only cater to them with some ill humor. I don't know if bigotry will ever be solved; really, how do you stop a parent from raising a bigot? Now industrial and socioeconomic bigotry can be stopped through the law but that is completely different. I think Sharpton et. al. should focus on that. Sharpton should ALSO focus on white-owned recording studios that make billions of dollars off rap music that demeans the African American communities.
I don't know if bigotry will ever be solved; really, how do you stop a parent from raising a bigot?
You can't. But you can help create a society where bigotry is not tolerated, and maybe the unfortunate child will grow up to see the error of his ways.
Or we could just give up and turn MMFA into a midget porn site.
Fine let Wienerdog continue to spew his insanity, Gangleskank her hateful advocacy to violence and OxyLimbaugh his propaganda parrot instructions. What do I care? Hasnt the Iraq debacle shown you wingnuts that you SUCK at prophesy? You spout this magic 8 ball guess about tomorrow and never come within miles of getting it right. The wingnut day is over. You can keep supporting your wizened, worthless haters spewing ignorance on the airwaves, with dwindling support from those not part of the base, that is those without the sense God gave a garden slug, preaching to the chior while sensable people get on with actual lives.
Who's Gangleskank? Coulter?
One more thing. This entire ordeal with Imus has taken ALL attention off the real tragedy: THE WAR. Kids are dying in Iraq and America has taken a week vacation to march with Al Sharpton about an old fart named Don Imus that nobody but old-farts listens to anyway! The poor girls at Rutgers have been used by Sharpton just like the left has. If this was really about hurting those poor, young college girls, how do you think they found out about this?? We can't fight every battle right now people...the real battle is stopping the Iraq war!
One more thing. This entire ordeal with Imus has taken ALL attention off the real tragedy: THE WAR. Kids are dying in Iraq and America has taken a week vacation to march with Al Sharpton about an old fart named Don Imus that nobody but old-farts listens to anyway! - Too bad we spent all our time talking about Imus, or we would've stopped the Sunnis and Shiites from killing each other by now!
The poor girls at Rutgers have been used by Sharpton just like the left has. If this was really about hurting those poor, young college girls, how do you think they found out about this?? - You're right, I'm sure they deeply regret getting that jerk who called them prostitutes fired. Maybe they'll offer him a job as their new sports commentator?
We can't fight every battle right now people...the real battle is stopping the Iraq war! - Yeah, let's shut MMFA down for another 3 years until that fiasco blows over.
Last thing I will say, I PROMISE. This morning there was that little article in the news about how Wolfowitz was scamming money for his girlfriend from the World Bank. Hmm, as I remember Wolfowitz had a lot to do with the Iraq War! Do you think anybody read that article??? NO. 90 percent of America was probably TOO busy reading about this stupid Imus story. I'm done. Peace All!
Last thing I will say, I PROMISE. - I've heard that one before...
90 percent of America was probably TOO busy reading about this stupid Imus story. - Yeah, some news sells better than others. It's a sad fact. Would you rather Imus was given a free pass?
No, I just want the focus to be on what really matters. That's all.
Congratulations on formulating a false choice. Coincidentally, I read up on the Imus saga while standing on the corner participating in our local, weekly peace rally. How on earth do I manage to protest violence and follow other current events? I must be super human or something.
Broken your promise already, have you?
So Savage's crystal ball told him, without a shadow of doubt, that the black woman was a liar, ergo his comments a year ago, WHEN IT WAS REASONABLE TO ASSUME SHE WAS A VICTIM, are spot on, and MMFA was acting vindictive by reporting SAVAGE'S OWN WORDS, that she's a "dirt-bag" and "dirty".
Could Savage loan his scrying device to the Bush administration so they can get ONE THING correct? That would be nice, for a change.
Randy
He doesn't like the Bush admin.
Who does?
Hey, you would be suprised. I still run into people who say his head belongs on Mount Rushmore. I usually tell them in my best rueful voice that I dont belive in the death penalty.
Fant, it wasn't reasonable to assume that she was a victim. He said those things after a DNA test showed no evidence of rape.
That may or may not be true, I won't check it. But he did use the case as a springboard to smear a bunch of other, completely unrelated groups.
ok, if i understand dr. savage correctly, quoting him, verbatim, is "attacking" him? i think i'm now officially confused. of course, so is dr. savage.
as far as free speech is concerned, it isn't, and never has been. though free from state interference, there's always the possibility that someone may not agree with you. that hardly constitutes censorship. public calls for his removal don't constitute a violation of his rights either; he's free to continue speaking, he has no right to be paid for it.
try actually knowing what you're talking about, before making a fool of yourself in public.
What I find interesting is that Savage must be right 99% of the time. It seems that mmfa only gets about 10 seconds of material of Savage's to demean each day, and uses about that much every other day while complaining about his message. Even this time, there is no real complaint by mmfa, I think they are just trying to present Savage as a bad person because he is more famous and influential than they are. Jealousy is such a rough word for liberals to understand. He is probably 100% right this time too. Mmfa does seem to be full of gays, it seems every one of you tend to go that way from what I've read in your posts. Which is fine, you can do whatever you want. And, it's so obvious that brock has a hard on for Savage, he can't stop talking about him. Day after day after day. Savage must account for 40% of all posts on mmfa.
What makes it even worse (for mmfa) is that Savage was, again, 100% correct about the durham dirt bag. She lied, the prosecutor lied and all liberals fell for it, simply because they had a race issue to go after. IMHO liberals are so gullible it's just unreal. That's why sites like mmfa is so popular among liberals, because they cater to the mindset of the average liberal. They know what to tell the liberal and the liberal does as they are told. The average liberal doesn't think for themselves, they need to be told what to do.
I was going to compose a post taking apart the astonishing stupidity of that post but my brain cells threatened to commit mass suicide if forced to actually think about the vast array of ignorance your post represented. Suffice to say. WOW. Your capacity for self delusion is astonishing and if you really ARE that ignorant and not a left winger trying to make rightwingers look bad by representing them as the knuckledragging troglydite your posts portray it makes me curios do you have to pay someone to remind you to breathe? With a head that dense does light actually bend around it?
How many times will you Weinerdogs trot out the "He's not this crazy all the time!" b.s.? MMFA has a list a mile long of Weiner going nutso, this isn't a fluke. And he doesn't get a free pass from not being crazy all the time. Think of all the times Ted Haggard DIDN'T buy meth and sex from a gay hooker while married. Does that mean he's not a gay, drug-using cheater?
Day after day after day. Savage must account for 40% of all posts on mmfa. - And 67% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
What makes it even worse (for mmfa) is that Savage was, again, 100% correct about the durham dirt bag. She lied, the prosecutor lied and all liberals fell for it, simply because they had a race issue to go after. - Show me some "liberals" who still believe that bogus rape charge, and how feminists, lesbians, and illegal immigrants are also to blame.
That's why sites like mmfa is so popular among liberals, because they cater to the mindset of the average liberal. They know what to tell the liberal and the liberal does as they are told. The average liberal doesn't think for themselves, they need to be told what to do. - In other words... LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS! Liberals. We all know you're bigoted against the left wing and are apt at spouting stereotypes and your own delusions, you can stop now.
Isnt that the dumbest talking point of all time? I know I was drunk and went up on the sidewalk and ran over seven people officer but what about all those times I drove to work and DIDNT kill anybody?
The Right Wing Shock Jock Must Go
This is the one problem I have with the whole Don Imus incident. Where has the black leader's outrage been? For years the right wing hate mongers have filled our airways under the 4th amendment that guarantees freedom of speech.
Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton has never put out the kind of campaign toward the many right wing shock jocks embedded in our society as they put out toward Don Imus. I don't think any of the many right winged shock jocks have ever said they were sorry for any of the nasty contemptuous propaganda they put out on a daily basis.
I truly hope two things: Jackson and Sharpton will never have to represent anyone who is truly sorry for a wrong they have done. I hope the both of them were not trying to seek credit for what they know was going to happen -- the firing of Imus. Because they knew it was going to happen, they may of wanted credit for a civil rights social victory.
Blacks are just as complicated as any other race, and we have more than one opinion. This whole incident is a ideal example at how we try to simplify everything in two extremes. This is not a Black and White world; it is Grey.
There is either a majority representation of racist in America who feel Savage's speech is a truth or normal. Or, like Imus, there is too much advertising dollars connected to these shock jock's shows. In any case, it has went on for a very long time without a serious check into the content they put out on the airways.
I am hoping we strike a mature growing nerve out of this incident for the whole country to benefit from. We could sure use it.
Joseph
"For years the right wing hate mongers have filled our airways under the 4th amendment that guarantees freedom of speech."
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The 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of speech. The 4th is about unreasonable search and seizure.
Joseph,
One problem with your post: Imus was not a right wing shock jock. He is known to be on the left.
Also, Savage is not a shock jock. He does not use ignorant racial slurs as humor on his show. On the topic of this thread, it is quite clear that for the past year, Savage has spoken the truth about how the media took the side of this black stripper, making her out to be the victim. The problem with that is when you have a victim, you have a guilty criminal on the other side...which happened to be 3 innocent white boys. Savage has exposed how disgusting it was for these boys to be kicked off their team, thrown out of school, and constantly receiving verbal hatred/accusations from their professors and fellow students. All of that -- with no facts that linked them to the crime....other than the fact that this was a racially fueled attempt to victimize a black person, and make whites look like the bad guys again.
Thank God these boys had the money and resources to get out of this false accusation, because if they did not, the racist lack-of-good-conscience minority stripper would have certainly won this round.
Savage Is A Right Wing Shock Jock
First I want to state I know which side Don Imus's shock jock loyalties belong to.Right or left, it was still wrong. Every time I have heard Mike Savage speak, it has been filled with offensive language that brings more attention to his nasty comments then it does the issue he is speaking on.
You made a point to say thank god those 3 innocent boys had the money to defend themselves from the, and this is my satire, evil black women Savage attacked. If you only knew the end result of those who cannot afford the legal representation the white boys got. They wind up taking a lesser guilty plea just to seek their freedom from the harsh jail they have found themselves in. So, there are a large amount of poor suspects who may have been jailed or punished unfairly.
Joseph
Jospeh, you must not listen to Savage very often then. He is not a shock jock.
Then his spouting of insanity must be compulsive.
I bet Savage will think again before he calls another women a lying wh-ore like he called Diane Sawyer or a s-lut like he called Ashley Banfield. At least he didn't call Sawyer a nappy headed lying whore and Ashley a ghetto s-lut, but that's right those terms are reserved for Balck women.
Lynn, he called Banfield a "mind sl*t," not a "sl*t." He did so because she went on a Jew killing mission with Palestinian terrorists. She "wh*red" her mind for ratings. She totally deserved what was said about her.
He called Walters a sl&t and vermin. He has called other wome whores. He has a history of treating women he disagrees with disrespectfully. His hateful speech is really not excused just because you agree with him.
Although I like Savage consider myself independent conservative (more Christian conservative though), I don't always find myself agreeing with the man. But considering the other two conservatives (Hannity and Rush) that are on talk radio in my area, I find Savage to be the most informative and REAL of the three. I personally don't see where his comments are anti-gay. Isn't Mr. Brock a professing homosexual? How many times has Media Matters defended the gay agenda on their website. All the website does is quote Savage, WITHOUT EVER POINTING OUT THEIR SIDE OR A SOLUTION ON AN ISSUE. If anything positive comes out of it, it's that I get to hear the soundbites, always entertaining.
I personally don't see where his comments are anti-gay. - Look a little closer.
Isn't Mr. Brock a professing homosexual? - That matters how?
How many times has Media Matters defended the gay agenda on their website. - I'd say never. They merely call b.s. when they see it.
All the website does is quote Savage, WITHOUT EVER POINTING OUT THEIR SIDE OR A SOLUTION ON AN ISSUE. - If you need what's wrong with Weiner's rants EXPLAINED to you beyond what MMFA already does, then you're hopeless.
If anything positive comes out of it, it's that I get to hear the soundbites, always entertaining. - Lemme take something from the horse's mouth: SAVAGE: And God, who is the center of this monotheistic religion, has said, "Oh, you don't worship me anymore? Oh, you don't like me anymore? Oh, I don't exist anymore? Really? All right, I'm going to show you boys in Hollywood and you girls in New York City that I do exist. But since you're very hard-headed, stiff-necked people, and you don't really believe that I exist because you've gotten away with everything you've done all your life without any repercussions, I'm going to show you I exist in a way that you can't believe." Down came the World Trade Center towers. That was God speaking. And you find that entertaining? You make me sick.
The biggest problem with Savage I would say is that he is never afraid to tell you about all the best sellers he has or his audience; i.e. Massive Ego Problem. I can see how that would offend both sides, right and left. But he tells it the way it is on many issues, and this country is swirling down the toilet with the pro-gay, pro-abortion issues that take precedence over national security and the foundations this country was built upon (God, family and country).
Agreed. I have been reading the threads on this site for a while, and it seems as if the people here do not consider history to be a reliable source of information (which is why they fail to accept that America was built on God, family, and country). If this site posted less of the opinion-based Savage bits, and more of the research/fact-based bits, the people here might realize the eerie similarities of Nazi Germany and today's Iran. But I guess man on man relationships and hurt feelings are more important than nuclear threats and a flood of 8,000+ illegals/terrorists crossing our borders EVERY DAY.
Agreed. I have been reading the threads on this site for a while, and it seems as if the people here do not consider history to be a reliable source of information (which is why they fail to accept that America was built on God, family, and country). - As for God, the United States was built on a non-religious Constitution written by secular men. As for family, I'm all for single and gay parents, and that makes me pro-family. Or do you only mean one man, one woman, married parents? In which case, are you going to bring down the law on anyone else who comes near children and build more orphanages? Doesn't sound very pro-family to me. As for country, what country is NOT built upon the idea of a country itself? That's like saying people deny that religion is based on the supernatural.
If this site posted less of the opinion-based Savage bits, and more of the research/fact-based bits, the people here might realize the eerie similarities of Nazi Germany and today's Iran. - You've now gone far, far off-topic. But this isn't a news site, it's a media watchdog site. And even if they did give Weiner a free pass, what about all the other conservative misinformers it is MMFA's mission statement to expose? Are you suggesting this site become an Iran watchdog site instead?
But I guess man on man relationships and hurt feelings are more important than nuclear threats and a flood of 8,000+ illegals/terrorists crossing our borders EVERY DAY. - Well, who's job is it to secure our nation? Bushie-Wushie and his soon-to-be-named war czar, right? But as long as the media continues to be his lapdog, we won't get any decent leadership. I know Weiner isn't a Bush-lover, but its crazies like him that keep the idiots like Bush in power. And remember: Weiner complains about his hurt feelings and gay sex all the time, so maybe you should tell him to get his priorities straight (ha ha).
Ifurry,
I just can't let this leftist lie go untouched. You state, "As for God, the United States was built on a non-religious Constitution written by secular men."
I believe you are 100% wrong, stop denying that you live in a country founded by christian men. Here is my proof: [link to www.adherents.com]
Let's see some contrary evidence.
Bunk, its clear the US constitution the founding document of our country was written with enlightenment values in mind. Franklin once said lighthouses are more useful than churches. Jefferson that he knew of no example of a priest ridden people remaining free. Many if not most of what we consider our founding fathers were Deists. It would have been very easy to declare the US a Christian nation instead Jefferson said Christianity never had anything to do with the common law and the first amendment said directly that there would be NO ESTABLISHMENT of religion by the government not of A religion so dont even try to claim that means no state religion no establishment of religion PERIOD. Look I am a Christian but reality is what it is. If we claim this is a Christian nation and mean anything other than that the majority of our people are Christians we are telling the millions of people who are Muslim, Bhuddist, Jewish, or any of the other religions of the minority that they are second class citizens. This is a democratic republic which means it is a nation of its CITIZENS no matter WHAT their religion. The only real mention of religion in the Constitution is to say that there will be NO religious test for office. So this isnt a leftie lie this is factual reality. YOUR take doesnt define reality and wishing it were true wont make it so.
You're changing the topic becuase you cant prove me wrong on this one. I was responding to Iflurry's accusation that the constitution was written by secular men. That is false. So, I'll state my point again: Show me proof that our founding fathers were not christians.
He didn't change the topic, but I will concede this point: I misspoke when I said they were secular men. They did, however, come from a very wide range of religious beliefs, and the division between different sects was much deeper than they are now. These beliefs even included deism. And as such, they made absolutely sure that the nation they founded was a secular one.
If you search wikiquote, I'm sure you'll find at least a few interesting selections about the religions beliefs of the Founding Fathers, including their tendency towards Enlightenment religious ideals.But he tells it the way it is on many issues, and this country is swirling down the toilet with the pro-gay, pro-abortion issues that take precedence over national security and the foundations this country was built upon (God, family and country). - Think of how much of your tax dollars (and the tax dollars of your children) go to the Iraq fiasco, then compare it to how much goes to pro-gay, pro-choice, pro-God, or pro-family ANYTHING. You're swatting at flies when there's a great white shark chomping on your behind.
He spews insanity hatred and bigotry. If you are into that fine. That you expect us NOT to criticise it is not really reasonable.
Savage is sooooooo awesome! He's correct in everything he says...he's simply brilliant! It's funny seeing all the jealous little vermin - scum who lack Savage's intellect, education and success - trying to attack this great man...when will they learn that they only make him bigger.
Hint: There's a little thing called the 1st Ammendment...if you're a militant queer, a fascist state-socialist or Islamofascist and you don't dig his gig, don't listen...duh!
And you're not a general. I know this, because you're a dumbass.
Great, another idiot who thinks God created Islamic terrorists to punish America for the tolerance of gays. (just like Weiner said, right?)
Where in the 1st Amendment does it say all citizens have a right to a radio show? NOWHERE. So how does it violate the 1st Amendment to call for Weiner to be fired? IT DOESN'T.
Or maybe you're a militant prude, a fascist state-corporatist or Christofascist and you don't dig my gig. I'd tell you not to listen, but if you're a Weiner fan, you probably don't listen to anything.
OK you are a moron. Point taken. There is NO first amendment issue here. No one is saying Wienerdog should be arrested for the sewage he spews. You Weinerdog worshippers are so stupid its amazing. I dont know how often it needs to be explained to you this ISNT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE. I am so glad Wienerdogs insanity amuses you. WE have decided to use OUR first amendment right to point out the man is insane. Nothing you have to say about it your abject stupidity notwithstanding.
If you don't like Dr. Savage, it's simple - don't listen......but, your desire to silence free speech is deplorable. Savage is so right - you vermin are simply neo-fascists who despise basic American principles like the 1st Amendment. What happened to that '60's liberal mantra of "I disagree with what you say, but I'll die for your right to say it"? HUUUUUMMMM???
You should move to Syria or Iran or some other fascist hellhole with state-controlled media where you can feel comfortable....America doesn't need your kind.
Quick question before I tear you to pieces - is your screen name borrowed from the delusional and paranoid general who tried to start WWIII from the movie "Dr. Strangelove"? Sounds like someone's corrupted your precious bodily fluids, there...
Anyway, I'll let Solon speak for himself here: There is NO first amendment issue here. No one is saying Wienerdog should be arrested for the sewage he spews... I am so glad Wienerdogs insanity amuses you. WE have decided to use OUR first amendment right to point out the man is insane.
Then you say: your desire to silence free speech is deplorable. Savage is so right - you vermin are simply neo-fascists who despise basic American principles like the 1st Amendment.
Maybe you're reading a completely different website and just got the two confused?
What happened to that '60's liberal mantra of "I disagree with what you say, but I'll die for your right to say it"? HUUUUUMMMM??? You should move to Syria or Iran or some other fascist hellhole with state-controlled media where you can feel comfortable....America doesn't need your kind.
That quote is from Voltaire, who predated the 1960's by quite a bit. And the poster by the handle of John said it was b.s. when I made that exact statement elsewhere in this thread (Catch-22, I'm a hypocrite if I don't say it and a liar if I do). And as for Syria or Iran, no thanks, I like living in a country that's not run by religion (at least, not officially).
THERE is no free speech issue here. We have explained that over and over. You are so stupid its depressing. Even a simple minded moron like you ought to be able to understand this Weinerdog can spout his insanity on any streetcorner. No one is stopping him. We get to voice our opinon about how our airwaves are used. Weinerdog has no RIGHT to any job nor to an audience. That is NOT part of the first or any other amendment. YOU are a moron. What happened to conservatives capable of actual higher brain function? You shame all conservatives with your ignorance. In fact I am ashamed to be the same species as someone as stupid as you. Now go find a five year old and bribe him to explain all the big words to you.
Why dont YOU go live in Guatemala where your black fascist heart will fit right in, I hear they are a bit more tolerant of ignorance even of YOUR magnitude.
Now I'm angry
I cannot believe how low our society has gone. We have men dying and getting injured everyday over in Iraq for our freedoms (and the contractors) yet this story about and old cracker saying something offensive on the air becomes the top most important story in the country, utterly disgusting. I sit back now and then wondering what our marines, our american heroes are feeling about what is going on in America. I wonder if they feel that there is anything worth saving when they see things like this and make no mistake about it they watch the news. I wonder what the jihadists think about what our priorities are when they see this story. No wonder they call us the infidel.
Chris,
Please take the time to watch the streaming video at this link: http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/13/letting-the-troops-speak-for-themselves/
It is a number of brief responses from our troops when asked "What do the American people need to know about the war?" It is quite moving, and will probably fill you with anger over how backwards our politicians really are.
What, you mean our country is at WAR? Well, if Imus and Weiner weren't covered on this site, I would've known about this a long time ago!
Thanks for pointing that out, Chris. Let's both sympathize with the terrorists.
Whatever the soldiers are dying for in Iraq it has NOTHING to do with our freedoms. Your capacity for self delusion is astonishing.
Solon,
You are so selfish it makes me sick. Just because American troops are not on a mission to expand your freedoms does not mean they are wrong for helping others. Did you even watch that video????? The Iraqi people are obviously very happy to have us there providing stability. I guess "family values" do stop at our borders for selfish bastards like you. Capacity for self delusion? What the hell are you talking about? We are helping opressed people (and they clearly appreciate it), isn't that what the left is supposed to be all about?
Thats ok your ignorance makes ME sick so we are even. First of all I was RESPONDING to the claim the soldiers ARE fighting for our freedom. YOUR delusions are as bad as his. IF we are there to HELP the Iraqis I would think it relevant if they WANT our help. Whatever some video shows they want us GONE. Every poll we have ever taken shows this. For instance this one taken by the Brits recently
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/23/wirq23.xml
• 82 per cent are "strongly opposed" to the presence of coalition troops
So despite YOUR delusions about how they are very happy we are there here on Planet EARTH they are NOT happy we are there and want us gone see that is what 82% STRONGLY oppose the presence of coalition troops MEANS. When you get some dim conception of what you are talking about get back to us.
Here is a hint. YOUR ignorant delusions do NOT define reality and just because you WISH it were true doesnt mean it IS true.
Anyone remember this quote growing up?
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me".
Whatever happened to those days? When I see and hear adults getting overly excited about what someone said that offended them, I don't see adults. I see babies in diapers with rattles in their hands banging on the table, as Savage said on a show regarding people in restaurants who seem to think it is their right to yell and scream inside a restaurant.
Anyone remember this quote growing up? "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me". Whatever happened to those days? - They're gone, like the days when you could lynch a black man because a white woman told you to, or the days when Hitler might've been an ally to the US, or when Communists were going to kill us all in our sleep. You whine about people who get offended, but not about the hate speech that people like Weiner are paid handsomely to distribute? Kind of unfair how you don't complain about Weiner getting his undies in a bunch, but for everyone else it's "Get over yourselves!"
Yes and when people are offensive and insane on the streetcorner we can tell them what we think but thats our only option. When the insane people are using OUR airwaves then we have every right to point out that we dont believe they are fulfilling the public trust part of their obligations. The freedom of speech issue is OURS it has no relevance to Weinerdogs employment status.
Savage is not a part of the mainstream media
Savage NEVER gets mentioned or referred to in the mainstream media, NEVER. Why is that? It's not because of his righteous indignations he gives on his show on the daily basis. It's because he doesn't have any ties to to the two party system which he calls Republicrats and Democans. I have told you over and over again that HE IS NOT A BUSHBOT. But since you only know what he says by coming to this website which cherry picks everthing he says, I doubt that you would know. He attacks Bush every day on his show. He says Bush is the worst president in America and the worst commander in chief in America. Infact on Monday this week Savage got so angry after playing a clip of Bush talking about immigration he said, "I am getting so tired of George Bush's lies, I think it's time to impeach this man". He also said on Wednesday that he sees no real difference between Bush or Clinton. A caller said that that the difference betwwen Bush and Clinton is that Clinton sold us down to China and Bush has sold us down to Mexico, in which Savage agreed completely. You think you'll hear that from Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, I think not.
I have told you over and over again that HE IS NOT A BUSHBOT. - Maybe if you actually paid attention, you'd realize that we know, but don't care. He's offensive and a hate-monger. I don't care whether he's mainstream or not, he doesn't belong on the air.
Savage absolutely belongs on the air. I enjoy listening to his brilliance five days a week. He's not going to be fired. Talk Radio Network is 100% behind him.
You mean his insanity. He needs to increase his medication
Why isnt he referenced in the mainstream media? I dont know maybe because he is insane. Calls for killing one hundred million people really ought to get carried on CNN. If he wants to be on mainstream media he needs to increase his antipsychotics.
John174541842
Thank you for posting that I really appreciated that. I like Michelle Malkin. By the way did you see that bum call her a political prostitute on The O'Reilly Factor last night?
I heard about it from Olbermann, who didn't exactly come to Malkin's defense, but took the guest to task for saying it nonetheless.
Who are Savage's sponsors??????
Persons would take you more seriously, if you would comment on the left wing broadcasters who say "incorrect" things all the time. I would rather have them on the radio and be able to turn them off, then to force them off! Beware that when you are successful in getting right-wing broadcasters off the air... then next will be those from the left-wing and then the radio waves will be very empty!!
And when are they going to go after the rappers???
Another defeatist. Let's all give up and go home, otherwise nobody will get any media at all. =(
No! The problem with Media Matters and this ilk, is that you are trying to shut these broadcasters down! Why not try to compete with them; is it because you cannot, or what? IF you were only complaining, who cares; but your agenda is trying to shut the voice of the right-wing broadcasters...
Libs no like confrontations.
Yeah, we all know how rarely someone gets called on their BS on this site.
Wait... you're a liar, and I'm a liberal! Let's confront each other.
Cons no like REALITY
We ARE just complaining. Every liberal believes in free speech. We also believe in our right to react to it.
If you're a conservative, think of it as the free market: If he loses his show, then the market has spoken (and vice versa).
Point well made. If Brock is so serious about exposing the "right wing" (better defined as anything he disagrees with), why doesn't he take this whole "media matters" initiative to the radio or television. Oh wait, you would need an audience greater than 100 or so liberal bloggers to keep you up an running on the air.
The left has dug themselves into a hole on this one.
So it's better to have nothing than a website? Considering that Brock has been featured on cable news, and both Bill-O and Weiner have complained on air about them, they're making progress. Maybe someday there will be MMFA on TV. But by your logic, we should all just give up and go home 'cuz we're not there already.
How is it "making progress" for MMFA to be mentioned by Savage on the air? He mocks this site. MMFA has not prompted Savage to change whatsoever. In fact, after he reads what this site writes about him, he says, "I agree with every word that I said." MMFA would be making progress if Savage either got fired or became pc.
MMFA has highlighted his insanity for those who are too sane and civilized to listen to his hateful rantings. I for one think that accomplishes something.
Well, Savage highlights the false information of the leftist media on television. A system of checks and balances, I like it. Turn Savage's radio station off if you do not like him. If he loses listeners, his stations will drop him. Let me fill you in on a little news though: It will take more than the 100 or so homo-progressives on this watchdog site to shut Savage down. He will not go as easily as Imus. If Savage is ever called out by Sharpton or Jackson, he will rock their corrupt world like no one has ever seen before. I pray for the day that Sharpton, Jackson, or one of you homo-activists pull Savage back into the mass media spotlight. You will be exposed, and you will look like fools.
You show you are a bigot with your snide little homosite reference. Methinks you overcompensate too much. Little cramped in that closet is it? I am not trying to shut Weinerdog down, nor is MMFA, they are only exposing his insane rantings. I am fine with him having a show for as long as there are people that enjoy him. I DO like it that his insanity is exposed beyond the his faithful Weinerbots. Let everyone know what the insane are saying.
How is it "making progress" for MMFA to be mentioned by Savage on the air? He mocks this site. - Wrong. Mocking is what I do to posters such as yourself. Calling a site that quotes you in context, complete with transcripts and audio clips, a "gay smear sheet" and accusing them of "stalking me every day" is just plain acting out (funny how the "Don't be Offended" crowd forgot about those Weiner-bites). If he didn't have a problem with this site, he'd ignore it. But MMFA has influence. It has power. It has Weiner listening, if nothing else than to stroke his ego.
MMFA has not prompted Savage to change whatsoever. In fact, after he reads what this site writes about him, he says, "I agree with every word that I said." MMFA would be making progress if Savage either got fired or became pc. - My argument was that, just because the goals of MMFA are incomplete, doesn't mean that they should just give up. You refute that by confusing "completion" with "progress". Getting Weiner to 'fess up to his hate speech is at least a step in the right direction.
No we havent you havent been keeping up with current events. Liberals like to read. It seems they dont flock to the preaching to the choir venues. THIS site does well more than a hundred POST here much less read the posts. The WWAAAAAHHHHH stop exposing Weinerdogs insanity is tiresome but you have a right to do it. WE also have a right to expose his insanity and even to give OUR opinion about how OUR airwaves be used.
20 years ago, "liberals" were people proud to proclaim that they "disagree with what conservatives have to say, but will die for their right to say it." LOL!
There are few true liberals any more. Liberal/progressives today are nothing more that European state-socialists and neo-fascists who seek to silence anyone with whom they disagree.
What's next? Book-burnings? ...I doubt the left will stop at that...what the left really wants in the US are speech crimes like many EU nations impose. This is pure fascism - nothing more, nothing less - those who seek to silence Savage et al are entirely un-American in their basic values and beliefs.
20 years ago, "liberals" were people proud to proclaim that they "disagree with what conservatives have to say, but will die for their right to say it." LOL! - I'll die for Weiner's right to say anything he likes, but his "right" to have a radio show is nonsense. He should be fired. There's a difference between firing someone and censoring them.
There are few true liberals any more. Liberal/progressives today are nothing more that European state-socialists and neo-fascists who seek to silence anyone with whom they disagree. - And conservatives today are war-mongering corporate-state Bushbots who want to kill anyone who they disagree with and are afraid of anyone who's brown or gay. Stereotypes are fun!
What's next? Book-burnings? - Only if those books teach evolution, or that it's okay not to hate gays.
I doubt the left will stop at that...what the left really wants in the US are speech crimes like many EU nations impose. - And what the right really wants is a dictatorship led by Bushie-Wushie. Stereotypes are still fun!
This is pure fascism - nothing more, nothing less - those who seek to silence Savage et al are entirely un-American in their basic values and beliefs. - You think the man who said God created terrorists and let 9/11 happen because of gays is American in his values? You think it's un-American to NOT promote hate speech?
"I'll die for Weiner's right to say anything he likes, but his "right" to have a radio show is nonsense."
-Please spare us the bullsh*t. Everyone knows you would not die for Savage, and because we live in a free country, you do not have to listen to his radio show. I dont watch Olbermann on tv...I dont like him, but i dont b*tch about the fact that he doesnt have a "right" be on tv.
Dusting off your amazing mind reading powers are you? Here is a clue. THEY. DONT. EXIST. This isnt a free speech issue, I dont know how much clearer this can be. His insanity and hateful bigotry are not serving a public service. Its OUR right to give OUR opinion on how OUR airwaves are used.
Thanks for fielding that one, Solon. I'd only like to add that while it is true I would never die for Weiner IN PARTICULAR, I meant that I would gladly die for everyone's right to free speech. He just shouldn't be on the airwaves.
Savage shouldn't and won't be fired.
MORE defeatism? You know, you're starting to sound like that broken record WeinerRocks. Maybe all right-wingers should register with the name "Give Up" and just make blank posts from now on, it would save everyone a lot of trouble.
FYI: Michael Savage is the 2007 recipient of the "Talkers Magazine" (the bible of talk radio) Freedom of Speech Award for being the first major conservative talk show host to attack George Bush for his failed policies and betrayal of basic conservative principles.
In your lame effort to equate Savage (a traditional Goldwater/Reagan conservative) with Republican/corporate waterboys like Limbaugh O'Reilly and Hannity, you've merely demonstrated your supreme ignorance of the industry, child.
Savage is an entirely different animal from them.....why the hell do you think they've blacklisted him, never invite him on their shows and won't even mention his name?
Savage attacks Bush even more than the illiterate drop-outs on the failed Airhead Radio network do....and he does it with the intellect of a Berkeley PhD......listen sometime - you might just learn something.
Sure he is a different animal. An insane one. When he wins a peabody or even a Polk instead of some minor magazine award get back to us. I dont care if he also once in a while criticises Satan, it doesnt excuse his insanity or hateful sewage spewing nonsense.
I guess it's a matter of taste.....Dr. Savage has over 8 million listeners who find his daily show highly informative, insightful, well-reasoned, logical, rational and entertaining.....making him the #3 personality in all of radio (aside from being the author of 4 consecutive NY Times Best-Sellers!).
Juxtaposed against the drop-outs on the Airhead Radio, it's easy to see why they're bankrupt.
Rather than trying to silence a greater mind and tear someone else down, why don't you libtards simply put down the bongs and try harder on your end to succeed on the open playing field of ideas?
I guess it's a matter of taste.....Dr. Savage has over 8 million listeners who find his daily show highly informative, insightful, well-reasoned, logical, rational and entertaining.....making him the #3 personality in all of radio (aside from being the author of 4 consecutive NY Times Best-Sellers!). - And Bushie-Wushie, won two elections, which we both wish he hadn't. People can be wrong. But if his approval ratings are any indication, they can also change their minds.
The whole point of this site is that it's NOT an open playing field. Corporate sponsors will pay for this sort of drivel, but where are the liberal equivalents of Weiner? Anyone that extreme would get fired.
But occasionally a non-conservative gets their moment to shine. If you think we're all libtards, how do you explain Stewart, Colbert and Olbermann? And as we've seen with Imus, it takes a non-conservative network (MSNBC) to stand against racism on the airwaves. As for Air America, they were the victims of an advertising blacklist.
Colbert and Stewart are libtards. As far as Olbermann goes, he is a bright guy who went to an Ivy League university. However, I think that he's jealous of Savage for some reason. Savage has invited liberal critics to phone his show; maybe Keith can take him up on that offer.
I thought that Air America was a victim of no ratings, not an advertising boycott. Liberals have been given a chance to succeed in talk radio; it's not our fault that hardly anyone listens to them.
Hey, one of those "libtards" was the featured entertainer for the 2006 White House Correspondent's Dinner, and managed to get through a 24 minute speech subverting almost everyone in attendance with a straight face. Are you a fan of anyone who's done a feat like that?
I'd like to see Olbermann debate Weiner, but that's kind of Weiner's home turf, off-the-cuff remarks and such. Here's hoping anyway.
As for Air America, you thought wrong then, didn't you?
Yeah and American Idol gets more viewers than Shakespear. I hear Hitlers speeches were really popular too. When are you ConPunks going understand that NO ONE is being silenced. No one has a right to a radio show, that uses OUR airwaves. If people like his insanity, and pathology does have its fascination, fine. Doesnt lessen its insanity.
FYI: Michael Savage is the 2007 recipient of the "Talkers Magazine" (the bible of talk radio) Freedom of Speech Award for being the first major conservative talk show host to attack George Bush for his failed policies and betrayal of basic conservative principles. - To paraphrase Kathy in Philadelphia, "Wow, he got an award for saying what the rest of us have been saying for the past six years!" I've been supporting gay marriage for years, does Weiner win an award if he turns around and starts supporting that, too?
In your lame effort to equate Savage (a traditional Goldwater/Reagan conservative) with Republican/corporate waterboys like Limbaugh O'Reilly and Hannity, you've merely demonstrated your supreme ignorance of the industry, child. Savage is an entirely different animal from them.....why the hell do you think they've blacklisted him, never invite him on their shows and won't even mention his name? - Weiner is worse than all of them. None of the above have blamed 9/11 on the tolerance of gays, and none have sympathized with terrorists. He's not some maverick blazing his own path, he's just a lost loudmouth.
Savage attacks Bush even more than the illiterate drop-outs on the failed Airhead Radio network do....and he does it with the intellect of a Berkeley PhD......listen sometime - you might just learn something. - No thanks............. I shouldn't have to wade................. through garbage............. to find nuggets of wisdom...............
Illiterate dropouts? Franken is a Harvard graduate. He has won five Emmys for his WRITING. I guess when you are as stupid as the General, you dont even know what illiterate MEANS.
Franken quit though, didn't he? Also, to be honest, I've never laughed at any of Franken's jokes. His Stuart Smalley bit on SNL was God awful.
And darn few REAL conservatives. I will stand up for Weinerdogs right to say anything he wants on any streetcorner in America. When I have a first amendment right to put up a billboard in YOUR front yard then you will have a point. Weinerdog has NO right to a nationally syndicated radio program on OUR airwaves. He has no RIGHT to any specific employment. and you have NO dim concept of what you are talking about NONE WHATSOEVER.
Don't like Savage? Turn the knob, twit.
It's not a matter of like and dislike, it's a matter of right and wrong.
Dont like us criticing Weinerdog go to another website MORON. You Weinerdog worshippers are SOOOO stupid.
Like your opinion matters, loser. Listen to Mike some time next week and you'll be sure to hear him debunk more liberal-regressive crap than you can find at moveon.rat.
If he's as good as debunking liberal claims as you are, then the whole show will be right-wing whining.
It would be nice if the woman who falsely accused the Duke Lacrosse players of a crime that never happened, would find the courage to be a resposible adult and publicly apologize for her actions.
She should be arrested. An apology isn't enough.
he is 100% correct
So far, I've noticed three categories for most Wiener supporters:
1) "He's not an offensive nutjob ALL the time!" - These are not isolated incidents, he's got a long history of hateful remarks made on the air.
2) "But he's not a Bushbot/real conservative!" - We know. We don't care. See #1
3) "Why don't you all just give up?" - Same could be asked of Weiner, homophobia's been on the retreat for decades now, but he still wallows in it.
4) "He's just plain correct." - He's just plain wrong. Hah, I refuted your entire argument.
FAQ's are so convenient...
Talk radio is completly different from television.
Unlike television talk radio is a lot more personal. It is all about satire. Here is a quote Savage put in the begining of his book," The Political Zoo".
" The true end of satire is the amendment of vice by correction. And he who writes honestly is no more an enemy to the offender, than the physician to the patient, when he prescribes harsh remedies to an inveterate disease...."
- JOHN DRYDEN, 1681
This is all about free speech whether you agree or not...SOLON. This thing with Imus is only the begining of what is to come. The liberals in this country are slowly but surely becoming the thought police that George Orwell wrote about in his book, "1984". Granted it is not that extreme, yet. But make no mistake about it, that is where we are headed in this country unless the liberals are stopped. You liberals will never be satisfied. If it were up to you, you would round up all the conservative talk show hosts and put them in a death camp and salivate while watching them hang. Save yourselves before you become full blown communists.
No it isnt. You repeating a few hundred times that it is wont change REALITY. Wienerdog has the same rights as I do, no more no less. He has no inherent RIGHT to a radio show nor to spew his hateful bigotry on OUR airwaves. The airwaves BELONG TO US, that means we have a right to demand they be used as the law says along with an obligation to perform a public service. There will be NO free speech issue involved until he is arrested for what he said or until he is stopped from spewing his hatred and insanity on whatever streetcorner he chooses. At that time I will join you in supporting his right to do so. Until then your repeated baseless assertions which you dont even TRY to back up are NOT free speech issues. Do I have a free speech right to put up a billboard in YOUR front yard? He has no free speech right to further employment either. If enough people are put off by his insane rantings and complain and he is taken off the air that is the market working as it should there STILL wont be a free speech issue involved. This is really pretty simple. Free speech in no way includes an exemption from the fairly universal concept ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. He has no free speech right to be exempt from the consequences of HIS actions. All your endless repitition of a clearly wrong assertion show is you dont know what you are talking about. THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ISSUE HERE.
I cant leave the last part of your insanity alone. I tried but I cant do it. Most liberals I know are against the death penalty and if Weinerdogs insane rantings get him put in jail you can count on the support of most of us to oppose that. Your delusions are based on nothing more than ignorance and a need to denigrate liberals with no respect for reality, which you seem extremely hostile to. Save yourself before your astonishing ignorance turns you into an outright fascist.
"Do I have a free speech right to put up a billboard in your front yard?". No you don't have that right, neither do I. We are talking about a radio show. If you don't like it, turn it off or switch stations. It's that simple. Both Rosie and Alan Colmes feels the same way by the way.
"Most liberals I know are against the death penalty and if Weinerdogs insane rantings get him put in jail you can count on most of us to oppose that". Well I am very pleased you feel that way and I hope your right that most liberals will and should oppose that, however time will tell.
You are missing the point of my front yard analogy. WE OWN THE AIRWAVES. They belong to us. That means we have every right to have input about their use. The law which GAVE the airwaves over to commercial use, that is making money from OUR resource, demands a public service function from them. WE have every right to give OUR opinion about how OUR resource is used just like you have every right to decide how your front yard is used. As I said this isnt that complicated. THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ISSUE INVOLVED. And there wont be until he is silenced on a streetcorner or arrested for what he says. Do I have the RIGHT to have my opinions broadcast to a national audience? No I dont and if I dont then Weinerdog doesnt either. It is a privelege. One that he continues only with support of the public and the egis of his broadcasters if he loses either he has no RIGHT to continue and no free speech issue to lean on. I am part of the public. Giving MY opinion about Weiner is MY free speech right and he has NO free speech right to stop me. The very assertion is ludicrous on the face of it.
SOLON
I'm glad we finally agree on something. It IS Savage's privelege to broadcast his opinions to a national audience.The only way he will be removed from the airwaves is if his sponsers leave him. Fortunately that will NEVER happen because he is too popular and every station he gets put on their ratings skyrocket. Imus on the other hand had no ratings.
I dont care anything about whether Weinerdog continues to broadcast or nor. His insane rants are instructive to reasoned people about how some of the far right thinks. His hatred, bigotry and insanity are a grand example. If enough people get sick of it he may go. Its all good to me. I am glad you have come to your senses. Since it his PRIVELEGE, not his RIGHT, then obviously no RIGHT of his will be infringed upon if he loses that PRIVELEGE. THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ISSUE INVOLVED as you had previously and incorrectly asserted.
Since it his PRIVELEGE, not his RIGHT, then obviously no RIGHT of his will be infringed upon if he loses that PRIVELEGE. THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH ISSUE INVOLVED as you had previously and incorrectly asserted.
Quoted for truthiness.
You do not get to decide who or which view is heard and that is the issue. This article really shows a lack of knowledge about the talk show hoasts . Imus was a maverick who has never been a conseative a big Kerry man who unfairly condemed the veterns who opposed that trator. Now want to trash Savage thinking he is against your beliefs. Well you are correct he does speak out against gays,communists,and those who plan and plot to hurt this country. He also speaks out very stongly against the Bush adminastration, this makes him a sore for most republicans.