Limbaugh: "[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize"
On the April 12 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh criticized Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson for refusing to apologize to three former members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team who were accused of rape in March 2006 -- all charges were dropped on April 11 -- and asserted that "minorities never do anything for which they have to apologize." Presumably referring to the decision by CBS Radio and MSNBC to stop airing Imus in the Morning following controversial comments by host Don Imus, Limbaugh stated: "Everybody's demanding that everybody apologize in this country for simply breathing. It's getting to the point some people are not allowed to breathe or exhale, or make syllables." Limbaugh went on to complain about the protests Sharpton and Jackson led condemning Imus' remarks, saying: "They're members of the minority. Don't ever forget that this is the case. Minorities, victims, members of groups, are allowed to do anything to address their grievances and to get noticed, because ... they're so oppressed."
Limbaugh later read from a January 24, 2001, WorldNetDaily.com article to suggest that, when Jackson admitted to an extramarital affair in 2001 that resulted in the birth of a daughter, he "escaped from the same moral judgment that [he] mete[s] out against everyone else." Limbaugh quoted from comments by Rev. Jesse Peterson, which were featured in the WorldNetDaily article: "The black community will accept and defend Jackson's sexual escapade as they did with Bill Clinton. And this is the reason black Americans are suffering today -- not due to racism, but rather because of the lack of character." As Media Matters for America has noted, Peterson, the founder and chairman of Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, has made a career out of attacking Jackson.
From the April 12 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Oh, my golly gosh! Listen to that! As though these women are members of a slave troop -- they are in bondage and they are dragged out before the poles at the "Bada Bing." They're dragged out at all these strip clubs and they are forced to dance nekkid -- and it's the first step toward domestic violence.
Dirty little secret here is that some of these women dancing nekkid -- and I'm not talking about this babe. Ah, might be -- a lot of them are single mothers. They're divorced, and they can earn 100 grand a year at a good club doing this sort of stuff. And they're protected. But this is the hypocrisy: The Reverend Jackson will climb all over everybody who violates his boundaries and his rules -- but he has no boundaries. He has no rules. He never has to apologize. Like I told you, minorities never do anything for which they have to apologize.
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LIMBAUGH: Andrea Peyser today in the New York Post: Will The New York Times apologize? Will the Raleigh News & Observer apologize? Everybody's demanding that everybody apologize in this country for simply breathing. It's getting to the point some people are not allowed to breathe or exhale, or make syllables -- and some people who make syllables are being told they'd better apologize in advance and after they make those syllables.
But the media seems to get a free ride here. The Reverend Jackson wants a free ride. The Reverend Jackson and Reverend Sharpton both want a free ride. They never have to apologize, because they can't be racists, folks. They're members of the minority. Don't ever forget that this is the case.
Minorities, victims, members of groups, are allowed to do anything to address their grievances and to get noticed, because they're just -- they're so oppressed. And so they can't -- they have no power. They cannot act on whatever 'ism they have: racism. They can't be bigots. They can't be sexists. They're -- they don't have the power to be. Only racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia -- those things are reserved for the majority, because they're the only ones that have the power.
Now, here's the Reverend Jackson talking about how nekkid women being forced to dance in front of men is the first step toward domestic violence, and they know it's wrong and nobody should be doing it. Does anybody remember -- have you forgotten this?
The Reverend Jackson himself has fathered a lovechild. This is from World Net Daily in 2001: "According to the Reverend Jesse Peterson, head of the Los Angeles-based civil rights group BOND, or Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny -- 'it's not a big surprise that the Reverend Jackson has committed adultery,' and that his actions are unfortunately 'all too typical' of 'black ministers and politicians in the black community.' "
"The black community will accept and defend Jackson's sexual escapade as they did with Bill Clinton. And this is the reason black Americans are suffering today -- not due to racism, but rather because of the lack of character."
This was a blistering statement released by the Reverend Jesse Peterson: "Last week, the national media filled with details" -- again, this is January 2001 -- "Last week, the national media filled with details of the Reverend Jackson's long-term extramarital affair with a top aide working for his Monochrome Coalition, which resulted in the birth of a daughter in 1998" -- the aforementioned lovechild. "The Reverend Jackson, at the time 59, has reportedly been paying the mother, who headed the Monochrome Coalition's D.C. office, 10 grand a month after DNA tests determined he was the father of her child."
Now, I know we're supposed to forgive. I mean, this happens to a lot of people, too. A lot of people engage in infidelity, a lot of people have lovechilds -- lovechildren, and -- but it's wrong. It shouldn't happen. But all these people escaped the same moral judgment that they mete out against everyone else. They seem to be immune from it.
You know what's funny about all this, though? I have to tell you, and I think it's ironic as hell. Why do you think -- this is a simple question -- of all the people in this country, why is it that two of us -- or two of them -- the Reverend Jackson and the Reverend Sharpton -- have become the final arbiters of what's OK and not OK to say on the, quote-unquote, "public airwaves"?
By the way, the Imus situation: MSNBC's not public airwaves. It's cable. None of it's on the air. They're not subject to FCC regulations on this kind of thing. The whole argument here that we've got to clean up and detoxify the airwaves -- well, cable's not the public airwaves. It doesn't apply. That's why all the raunch and rotgut in culture is on cable. You get away with it there. The FCC has no purview.
At any rate, why is it those are the two guys who are set up here as final arbiters? Well, who created them? The left; the liberals; the Democrat Party [sic]. Jackson and Sharpton have seats at the Democrat Party table of power 'cause they deliver votes. They're the ones who have legitimized them, and what's ironic and funny about this is, now they've got to deal with them. Guess who it is that Sharpton and Jackson are trying to shake down? NBC and CBS. And those two organizations -- ABC as well and The New York Times -- they've all created this monster.
They've set them up. And now these guys are turning on them. For now. They'll go elsewhere after they get their love donations or whatever they want. But it's hilarious to see this. The left created its own monster, its own Frankenstein, and Frankenstein's attacking the doctor. The monster's attacking the doctor here. It's just -- it's amazing to see.
Interesting how he equates racial epithets with "simply breathing..."
Racial slurs are "simply breathing to Limbaugh."
I meant to only put "simply breathing" in quotes.
Perhaps Rush is right? Minority groups don't have to apologize for false legal accusations, for crossing borders illegally, for anything that they do that is wrong. If 'whitey' causes any harm, s/he gets tried and convicted (publicly or legally). Three border agents are in prison for doing their jobs and there has been no apology from the criminal or the Mexican government. Three college students have been falsely accused for over a year and had the threat of long prison terms and public humiliation on their minds for the entire time. No apology.
I guess you are right... Rush is an idiot.
Ta- DA!! Here comes Rush, right on time, to do his usual ranting and frothin' at the mouth....
That Peterson guy sounds like an *ss...
Uncle Tom Peterson, what a joke....Jemima move over, I wouldn't be surprised to see this grinning negro replace you on a box of pancake mix.
Hero:
Using the "Uncle Tom" comment is below you.
You obviously are not familiar with Heru's work. That is one of his more tame comments.
Rush doesn't have enough time left in this life to apologize for every offensive remark he's made.
Although Sharpton has no moral authority for calling for anyone's firing for making racial slurs, including Imus......for Sharpton is a racial vulture, in my opinion........I do believe that some on the right, no surprise, Limbaugh, are using both Sharpton and Jackson as scapegoats and excuses to divert attention away from serious racial discussions we should be having in this country. Limbaugh and his talk show mentality always sink to the lowest common denominator and politicize everything in their favor, they are sadly predictable.
But honest and respectful discussions should be on the table regarding race and racism in this country, and the negative influences that seep into our culture and are often ignored or swept under the rug for one correctness or another.
Tommy
You are right oh sorry I mean correct.
We're done 'talking' with white racists. Now they shut up and go away or get fired.
Go get em Al
Hmmm...black racists are done talking to white racists? Hold the press, while this iluminating story gets top priority! What a joke you are. You should be fired from whatever job you hold for being the racist you are! Where's Al when you need him. Oh, wait, Al doesn't care about blacks causing the failure of the black culture, he only cares about making money off of people complaining about black failures. Everyone knows where Al's, Jesse's and heru's priorities are at...and they aren't in fixing the problem. They are only interested in blaming white man for the failures they endure. Whether they are caused by themselves or not, they will only blame white man.
Al has been involved in many scams. He should not be respected for anything. He is a low life race baiter, no better then those white racist republicans, in fact, worse.
Why is he worse Iron??? You guys really got the hots for Jesse Jackson dont ya.
I wrote Al above.
Because he's black and doesn't know his place.
But honest and respectful discussions should be on the table regarding race and racism in this country.
Tommy, ever the optimist. :)
I totally agree. Limbaugh always brings up other peoples scandals. He who is without sin, cast the first stone.
It pains me to say it, but I have to agree with Tommy that Sharpton and Jackson are "vultures." It's as if they wait for any gaffe that can be construed as racists and then spend a week or so in the media spotlight trying to advance racial equality.
The problem is, this nonsense doesn't help race relations or quell bigotry. If anything, it diverts the public's attention away from real acts of racism, of which there are plenty in this country. Because of people like Sharpton and Jackson, Americans don't even know what real racism looks like anymore. Americans now believe that racism is when a famous person says something stupid about a minority group. There are countless examples of such gaffes:
This doesn't mean that these individuals are not racists themselves (one could certainly make that case for Limbaugh). These statements alone don't make someone a racist, but they serve to shine light on some potential character flaws with regard to how they veiw race.
I would even say that there have been many statements made in the media that are racist, but still pale in comparison to real racism like that kind practiced by white supremacy groups, ethnic gangs, and institutional racism spearheaded by our own government:
I do believe that the people making these insensitive and often idiotic statements hinder the progress of race relations in this country. But these statements do not cause racism. They are the symptoms of a culture that thinks racism is acceptable. Of course they should be held accountable, but at some point, if they are truly serious about improving the American experience for minorities, Rev.'s Sharpton and jackson need to start focusing the public's attention on the real racism that is going on.
Imagine black leaders letting white racists tell them what their agenda should be...shut up...if white racists actually liked Jackson and Sharpton we would be in search of new leaders.
We don't care whether you like them or not...your opinion is irrelevant. The days of white supremacy are over. Get a talk show, make a white racist comment, and you'll be hearing from one of them after you get your pink slip pal.
Whuchyoumean WE? You don't speak for all blacks, anymore than Al and Jesse do.
He does have a point about Sharpton and Jackson. They have both thrown around accusations, been involved in riots, and have on ocassion apologised for them. They are given a "Get out of Jail Card" by the Democrats in power. It is wrong, period.
Ironmaiden and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g!
LOLOLOLOLOL.... I sing that to my 5 year old all the time. Thanks for the giggle.
LOLOLOLOLOL....
Something very familiar about that string of letters...
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
I think you've found the latest incantation of Evil Lib.
OOps, meant incarnation, sorry.
And... fat rich repub propagandists never do time for the crimes they commit!
If not for Raygun killing the fairness doctrine Flush would not have stood a chance in the market....talk about handouts....another thing this fat sob is against for any minority....WORSE than Imus...Hope he's next!
PDrum, CA
I can certainly see your point about the Fairness Doctrine. You guys on the left side of the aisle realize that you have no chance against conservative talk show programs in the free marketplace (Talker's Magazine helped me out, there).They have too many listeners and are way too popular for the "Air America's" to compete against on a level playing feild. You have to try to gain an edge to somehow try to pull even, so the Doctrine comes up. Just like everything else, you can't do it through popularity, you must do it through the courts. Good luck with that. Maybe you lefty's just aren't that popular?
Who wants to be popular with low life white racist scum? I'd rather be smarter than a 5th grader.
Who wants to be popular with low life white racist scum?
Low life white racist scum? That's in the eye of the beholder. But I'm guessing his sponsors do.
I don't follow you DAVE, please restate that if you would. Popularity is over rated. Every, well most poeple like to be well regarded. Part of the social glue. Having it as your arbiter of political choice and thought has some serious flaws.
How do you figure Radio America has the luxury of a level playing field? Do you know how much money was pored into the conservative radio net before it finally turned a profit? Niether do I, but I would be willing to bet it was over six figures.
Popularity is a must to succeed in the free marketplace. Walmart, Rush, SUV's etc are popular. Air America was not popular. It went belly up. Under the Fairness Doctrine, it would've still been on the air regardless, which was my point of the level playing feild. The lefty's know that they cannot compete with conservative radio without the Doctrine. Your statement about popularity being overrated was completely expected. The "just because nobody listens to it doesn't mean it's not important" defense. Nice.
No it wouldnt. You obviously know NOTHING about the fairness doctrine. It called for anyone attacked personally to be given time for a response and for editorial comments to allow opposing viewpoints it NEVER called for maintaining specific programs sponsers wouldnt support.
Agree with you on the first part...too bad for you about the second part, though.
"The black community will accept and defend Jackson's sexual escapade as they did with Bill Clinton. And this is the reason black Americans are suffering today -- not due to racism, but rather because of the lack of character." Comedian Rush Limbaugh
Doesn't surprise me at all that he would say something like this. There is a pattern of this kind a language from el-rush-bo. It will happen again soon. Why? It's who he is, he simply can't help himself.
Poor guy. Wonder what his sponsors think?
Moe, as the righty posters are sure to point out, his sponsors think it's great because millions of pinheads listen to him.
And they will believe that that makes Rush right.
Over 1 billion served.
Well, I can't speak for Rush's sponsors, but if I was one of them I would much rather have "1 billion served", than a couple of "french fries" that occasionally tune into liberal radio.
Considering the clowns like Limpaugh and Hannity who currently populate the airwaves in this country, I have no doubt that you're correct in observing that the political discourse is being directed by Ronald McDonald and the Burger King.
You've stumbled onto another conspiracy: the right wing plot to make Leftoid children FATTT!!!
FREEDOM FRIES, TOMMY !!!
I understand.
Sponsors will continue to throw money his way as long as he pulls in listeners. Money trumps integrity every time.
But lets be clear...they are supporting a documented racist. El-rushbo can dance around this all he wants. But the pattern is clear and undeniable.
I promise, that unless there are consequences it will happen again.
Money trumps integrity everytime.
Absolutely. Olbermann said as much when he failed to put Imus on his worse list because his contract with MSNBC forbid it. Thanks again for pointing that out.
...frogs croaking....
It's the American way.
Money talks, BS walks. So as long as the pin heads listen and buy the sponsers products; we will have to contiune to suffer the slings and arrows of EL-Rushbo and his ilk.
Nah, we don't have to. There's always Option #1: Turn the TV off. I don't watch or listen to any of this garbage. I look for the real news online and root out what's really relevant. I just come here to counter the lie of Democrat liberality and lay into the occasional Repub orc.
The sad thing about this site is that it lets the TV morons set the agenda. It only reports on what they do or say, it follows, it does not lead, it does not take the initiative. Without Limbaugh and Savage and all the rest of those sociopaths, this place loses it's reason to exist. It actually helps them, it asks people to pay attention to them. Those orcs thrive on negative attention so it's not the correct strategy.
The only way to end this kind of puerile media is to change the social consciousness and move it away from the shallow end of the gene pool. A rejection of tabloidism, of sensationalism. More issues, less illusion. All revolutions start in the mind.
I have a feeling Brock would mind being put out of business because of nothing to report.
"Nah, we don't have to. There's always Option #1: Turn the TV off"
Thank you for saying that. That's what I've been saying all along. It's good to know that there's still a few traditional liberals out there who support free speech rights. All of the traditional liberals out there need to stand up and fight against Brock's new and dangerous form of neo-fascist liberalism that seeks to end free speech rights.
How many times do we have to EXPLAIN that there is NO free speech issue here. NONE. No one has a RIGHT to a nationally syndicated audience. Where is MY nationally syndicated radio show? The airwaves BELONG TO US. WE get to give our opinion on how OUR RESOURCE IS USED. The ONLY free speech argument here is OURS to complain about how these screechmonkeys use OUR resource.
Interesting how Rush hasn't again called the accuser a "ho" like he did last year...
[link to mediamatters.org]
Maybe he's afraid he'll be the one fired this time.
the Reverend Jackson and the Reverend Sharpton -- have become the final arbiters of what's OK and not OK to say on the, quote-unquote, "public airwaves"?-Limbaugh
Imus got himself fired when he made a racist comment on the public airwaves.
ummm, sorry Rush but Janet Jackson apologized for something us football fans some sweet nip action and she is a minority
took ten seconds to debunk, ya fat drug addict
True and scary. Why do so many tune into right wing morons ? I mean how do you listen to 2-3 hours of frothing and foaming hate everyday. God it must be exhausting to be so full of hate all the time. Hmm... lifes too short.
It's hate borne of fear. They don't do it because they want to. They do it because the HAVE to...
...that's even scarier.
I listen to all these nutbags a little bit each day- know thy enemy and I agree, hella exhausting. especially the ditto heads best brightest crowd
Iron seriously now I disagree with Sharpton and Jackson's stances sometimes and I think they are actually mor propped aup by the media than they are from the AA community. Cameras follow them aroungd and I hate that the story somehow becomes about them. That said I don't for one minute think they are racist and if they were why would they be worse than a Republican racist??
The whole low end of the am dial is full of these vermin saying horrible crap over and again...highly rated racist, sexist, classist and homophobic silliness all day long with major advertisers. The audienece bears a responsiblity as well Information is too readily available to forgive ignorance.
I've found some really great French jazz. Can't wait till the summer so I can pull up at stop lights next to some talk radio junkies and blast them with with it. That should get the Limbaugh lovers in an uproar.
Where's MMFAs usual disclaimer. You know, the one that goes, "RashL (as an example) is wrong here, example are as follows." Sure, it says above the JJ admitted to the affair, did he go public (ala WJC) to say he had created problems in his marriage? If he did, I missed it (but then again, I have missed a lot of things over the years.)
Everything he said is true.
The Crimes of Al Sharpton –Part 1ï‚· In the Tawana Brawley case, a 15-year-old black girl was found smeared withfeces, lying in a garbage bag, her clothing torn and burned and with variousslurs and epithets written on her body in charcoal. Brawley claimed that shehad been assaulted and raped by six white men, some of them police officers,in the town of Wappingers Falls, New York. Alton H. Maddox, C. Vernon Masonjoined Sharpton in support of Brawley. A grand jury was convened; after sevenmonths of examining police and medical records, the jury determined thatBrawley lied about being assaulted by the police. Sharpton, Maddox andMason were later successfully sued for statements made in connection withthe case, and ordered to pay $345,000 in damages.ï‚· In 1989 and 1990 Sharpton again beat the odds. First, Sharpton beat a tax evasionrap, which he called a government vendetta. Then, in 1990, he was acquitted oncharges that he pocketed more than half of the $250,000 he raised through theNational Youth Movement.ï‚· The Crown Heights Riot occurred after a car accident involving the motorcadefor the Lubavitcher Rebbe killing a young boy Gavin Cato. A riot was sparkedafter a private Hasidic ambulance came to the scene and, on the orders of a policeofficer, removed the Hasidic driver from the scene. Gavin Cato and his cousinAngela were picked up soon after by a city ambulance. Caribbean-American andAfrican-American residents of the neighborhood then rioted for fourconsecutive days fueled by rumors (in part driven by Sharpton), that theprivate ambulance had refused to treat Cato. Al Sharpton became the de-factorepresentative for the Cato family. During the funeral he referred to "diamondmerchants" considered a code word for Hasidic Jews, for shedding "the bloodof innocent babies" leading marchers shouting "No Justice No Peace". Sharpton didnot start the riots but his rhetoric was seen as inflammatory and unhelpful in easingthe tension between the black and Jewish communities. A visiting rabbinicalstudent from Australia by the name of Yankel Rosenbaum, 29 years old, waskilled during the rioting by a mob shouting "Kill the Jew".ï‚· In 2001, Sharpton served a three-month prison term for an act of civil disobedienceconsisting in illegally trespassing on U.S. property located on a bombing range inVieques, Puerto Rico. Sharpton was imprisoned for protesting the United StatesNavy's ongoing bombing and target practices on the island.ï‚· In November 2005, Sharpton appeared in advertisements for LoanMax, anautomobile title loan company. Sharpton was criticized for appearing in the ads, asLoanMax has been accused of predatory lending charging fees, and for marketingthem to primarily poor, urban and African American audiences. The ads featuringSharpton were run in predominantly African American markets.Sources: Wikipedia/Answers.com
The Crimes of Al Sharpton –Part 2ï‚· The Rev. Al Sharpton and two other men were convicted and jailed for their roles inthe December 1987 ''day of outrage'' protest, which stalled subways in Brooklyn forhours.ï‚· Sharpton appeared in a 1983 FBI videotape discussing the laundering of drugmoney with mobster-turned-informant Michael Franzese, one-time captain forthe Colombo crime family. Sharpton appears on the tape to offer to broker ameeting between Don King and a South American drug lord. No indictmentswere filed.ï‚· In 1995, he led his National Action Network in an ugly boycott againstFreddy's Fashion Mart, a Jewish-owned business that had its rent raised by itsblack landlord. Freddy's in turn raised the rent on one of its subtenants, a blackownedmusic store. The street leader of the boycott, Morris Powell, was the headof Sharpton's "Buy Black" Committee. Repeatedly referring to the Jewishproprietors of Freddy's as "crackers," Powell and his fellow protestersmenacingly told passersby, "Keep [going] right on past Freddy's, he's one ofthe greedy Jew bastards killing our [black] people. Don't give the Jew a dime."Some picketers openly threatened violence against whites and Jews -- allunder the watchful, approving eye of Sharpton. The subsequent picketingbecame increasingly violent in tone until one of the protesters eventually shotfour whites in the store, and then set the building on fire -- killing sevenemployees, most of whom were Hispanics.ï‚· Sharpton embraced Yasser Arafat in 2001, again for political reasons as he hopedto unseat Jesse Jackson as the most influential black leftist in the United States.Sources: NY Times and discoverthenetworks.org
Is this horrid, rash generalization true, too?
And this is the reason black Americans are suffering today -- not due to racism, but rather because of the lack of character."
50% high school drop-out rate
70% out-of-wedlock births
Need I say more.
Statistics only having meaning in a relative context, you do have to say more.
Comparable statistics for all ethnic groups
Socio-economic stats for those groups
Related stats for the corresponding schools, status of the families of these people...
Oh, wait- this gets much more complicated than repeating El Rushbo's "no-good Negro" playbook, doesn't it?
LDoren, is your goal to be the Piñata of every item this week?
Please explain why black Immigrants from Africa or North American Islands succeed at the same rate as Whites in America. In fact, their future incomes are equal to whites.
The reason is because their children don't have a 50% drop out rate, and they have a greater percentage of parents who are married than American-born blacks.
This is all about personal responsibility.
No its racist claptrap
You need to cite your sources much better. Very sloppily done. Your point would likely be much more effective if you put a little effort into it.
Why didn't you provide direct hyperlinks (instead of website homepages) to support each individual statement? It seems to be fairly common amongst conservative posters to be unable to cite their sources in a decent way. I don't know why that is.
open_mind, I think the M.O. is to constantly link entire web pages, assuming nobody will take the time to follow and read the whole things.Lacking any argument. the link looks good.
I normally ignore them, but having a little spare time today, I checked out two of LDorensThey turned out to be absolutely void of any support for its claims,and I posted as much.
Ldoren will be back soon enough,completely unaffected by the fact that it was exposed as a liar and shill, with the same dittohead talking points.
That's the beauty of being a GOP sheep- yesterday doesn't exist, lies and mistakes aren't acknowledged, every day is Morning in America, and personal accountability is for other people.
Good points.
I can't tell you how many times I have had to hunt down the origin of certain quotes used by some of these guys -- only to find that they are not quotes at all, but very weak paraphrases of the original words repeated add infinitum throughout the conservative echosphere as if they were indeed real quotations.
I am not sure this running interference is intentional (or if the posters are just morons), but it would be nice if they would at least have the decency to provide links so I could see the reasoning (or more often -- the lack there of) of their points a little more quickly.
Since when do we let a Drug Dealer and an Adulterer act as moral authorities?
Hypocrisy all the way around in this escapade.
Sharpton / Jackson claim to be the heirs of Martin Luther King, but act like PT Barnums sidekicks.
They criticize Imus but make no comments on Rap "artists" who make a living off negative comments on black women specifically. .
Imus was a entertaining but stupid old man with evidently a good heart. Lot's of charity work. He was an equal opportunty insulter. He held back on no one.
Sharpton / Jackson are just evil. And they call themselves ministers. Of course even Satan keeps transforming himself into an angel of light, per the bible, so it's no surprise these guys do the same thing. The only charity they are concerned with is themselves. Never apologize for any of their errors, always on the lookout for others.
Don't get me wrong - White Racists are no better than these 2. BUT THEY ARE RACISTS.
The one leader in the black community who has been fair in their critique of this situation has been Obama. Google it and see what I mean. Maybe there is hope for a someone of integrity to continue the tradition of Frederick Douglas and Martin Luter King. At least he has my respect. Maybe that's why they aren't supporting him. He has a chance to make them irrelevant.
Speaking of Douglas - I like this quote:
A gentleman will not insult me, and no man not a gentleman can insult me.
What Imus said was stupid, but we would have never heard about it unless someone was looking for an issue to ride. I wonder if the women's basketball team would have even heard the comment had Sharpton / Jackson made it an issue.
I have to thank Imus for his comments, not his comments exactly but the hopeful dialogue that I REALLY REALLY hope will result.
I thank Imus because hopefully it will put the spotlight on Rush, Bill, Hannity and Melanie. Hopefully it will lead for some real change. Hopefully it will, if not stop, then spotlight the continued hate crap that's goes on daily on our airwaves.
I am so tired of the media bring out Sharpton and Jackson as the "leaders" for the African American race.
WE ARE NOT A TRIBE!! WE DON"T NEED ONE OR TWO SO CALLED MINISTERS TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF!! IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SPEAK TO INTELLIGENT AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE YOU CAN FIND ALL KIND OF VIEWS, VERY DIFFERENT FROM JACKSON AND SHARPTON!!!
I as an African American woman want Rev. Jackson to go down to Duke University and apologize to the three white students for their injustice. No I don't believe that this will make all ok but we have to start somewhere. I listen to the Rev. who mediated the meeting with Imus and the Rutgers basketball players and he said of both Sharpton and Jackson that you have to forgive in order to be a Christen. If you claim the title of Rev. then the FIRST thing you must do is forgive!!! No one is asking to forget.
For Joe Scarborough & Company who continue to harp on the rappers, as if that makes it ok, remember who makes, sell and profits on the rap music. Rappers are not making millions off of black people buying their music, it's the new thing for white kids. I don't mind taking to task tackey rap music but again, don't blame only black rappers someone has to record print and sell this trash. And someone has to buy it.
Thank you. At last dialogue not hyperbole.
I have no doubt there are hundreds if not thousands of Black Leaders who are better positioned to speak with real moral authority as compared to Sharpton / Jackson and could help make real change.
Why don't we ever hear from them?
The Media
No one would know their names and would not watch. If you say "Jackson and Sharpton" as you can see everyone watches.
G Roger the information on what happenned to the media over the last 30 years or so is availible. Its not a simple or pleasant story. Mr. Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine" is the only comprehensive examination that I've read. Lots of detail and lots of people doing ughly things. 3 billion bucks well spent over 30 years to spread things that make Imus look like a piker.
Ignoring it and turning it off are what a lot of us did. This was a war as far as the conservative faction, by whatever name you might care to call them, was concerned against an enemy that in fact did not exsist as an organised entity. I know I didn't get any notice in the mail saying,"Greetings, this is to let you know that we hereby declare war on the people who are currently giving you your daily news. They are not making you fearful and then hateful enough. We will correct this situation no matter how long it takes we've got plenty of money and the people we help get elected will help us get more."
There's been a lack of access to the audio/vedio media of people who might have an intelligent arguement against this. We didn't know there was a war on. There is better access, exclusive of TV, and sites like this, various Blogs, which give us a chance to give veiws and argue about them. It would be nice if people would just stop watching/listening, but its like an addictive drug to some. This addiction helped put shrub into the White House twice now. If the Repulican's can find another candidate of the "proper mindset" or if you will the proper insanity to have any possible chance. Not many of those folks arround, they are rare, but they do exsist. 08 could be a bigger battle than we might think. And no I don't think McCain is the one for them.
It's brilliant. Claim that Pelosi is planning a trip to Iran. Then when she doesn't, then claim that she has bowed under pressure to "cancel" the trip.
Limbaugh: "[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize"
The man who thinks in such absolutes is an absolute idiot.
And this????: "The black community will accept and defend Jackson's sexual escapade as they did with Bill Clinton. And this is the reason black Americans are suffering today -- not due to racism, but rather because of the lack of character."
How can a serial adulterer, glutton, drug addict, etc. say such a thing? This man needs to be in a monastery, abstaining from sin and praying for forgiveness.
So exactly what is controversial about what Limbaugh said? He seems to be 100% right to me. There is a huge double standard in this country when it comes to race. Racists like Jackson and Sharpton can say anything they want and not be called racists, simply because they're in the minority. Then they can turn around and try to end free speech rights for anybody who makes a halfway controversial comment about blacks. Limbaugh is right as usual.
Rino, you do realize that Rush has openly admitted, on the air, to being a lying shill, don't you?
He's told you he's lying. Doesn't that make it difficult to be a ditto-head?
Actually what Rush said was he was tired of promoting Republican candidates on his show who do not act R once elected. "Carry their water" I think he called it. Anyone who listens to him knows this. He covered it at length.
Right! Publicly he strongly backed politicians that privately he knew were weak.
Dave,
I think you got it, but do you really get it? You don't see how that admission is just a tad disingenuous of Rush?
"Actually what Rush said was he was tired of promoting Republican candidates on his show who do not act R once elected. "Carry their water" I think he called it. Anyone who listens to him knows this. He covered it at length."- dave
I know, Dave, I heard his show the day he said it.The point is, these republicans did act Republican once elected, they just didn't do what they said they would. That is acting Republican.
Rush wasn't upset with them for not doing the right thing, he was embarrassed that they lost while following his program. In a rare moment of honesty, Rush told his audience that there were not enough stoopid people in this country to win an election.He called you stupid, Dave,and you, like an insecure battered wife, are apologizing for him.Is your self-esteem that pathetically low? Do you ever get the feeling that you've been cheated?
No that is NOT what he said. He said he was tired of carrying water for POLICIES so bad even republicans couldnt make an argument for them. Which is an out and out admission he was LYING and leading his dittohead listeners around by the nose playing them for FOOLS. You rightwingers NEVER stop trying to rewrite history do you?
Rino Hunter, you are one rockin' dude! So, your concern is double standards? Cool. That's my concern too. Therefore, you and I can join and oppose double standards. As I already wrote, there is the monstrous double standard of Limbaugh's life and Limbaugh's words, but an even greater double standard is having one standard of civil privilege for straight citizens and another for queer citizens. Your concern with double standards is a chance to eject Limbaugh from national discourse. After all, he's a junkie who's lectured about jailing junkies. He's a serial adulterer who's lectured about decency.
This is also a chance for the left and right to join to right the wrongness of making America a place where all citizens are equal, but some are more equal than others.
I'm so glad you're so concerned with one standard and equality. Call me. We'll do lunch and begin our fight for a single standard.
Your sister in equality,
Holly
P.S. - Rino Hunter and Holly forever linked in a struggle for a single standard!
P.P.S. - Rino, pumpkin, can you lose the moniker, Rino Hunter. There are so few rhinos remaining. I fear, if you're hooked on rhino flesh, that you'll go hungry one day. Perhaps you could become the Tofu Hunter? Or perhaps you could become the Hino, a Hunter in Name Only? Alas, Hino might make you sound a bit like an a$$, so maybe it's best to avoid such a descriptor.
"Hy-no Hunter", or maybe "Hy-nee Hunter" could possibly find acceptance here as somebody's posting name. It could happen.
As usual you have left reality far, FAR, behind. Jackson was PILLORIED, and rightly so, for his Hymietown comment. Sharpton gets bad press all the time.
Who didn't see this one coming?We opened this door when we allowed the likes of Al shapton And Jesse Jacckson to appear to represent all black people.Secondly we have some of us trying to justify a double standard .And third we had some heaping all the blame On Imus like he was alone while many were and are guilty of the same.Limbaugh being a perfect example but I did not see peole going after him with the fevor with which they went after Imus. With the eccuse being he went after people who couldnt defend themselves .They showed the world different. And who di nothing wrongThis is true. But IMO it is just as wrong to go after a non specific group (women and or a race of people). Ecusing Limbaugh and even Imus before because they didn't go after a specific target is what created the enviroment that made imus comforatable enough to say what he said without thinking.
Limbaugh is an evil man and his followers know this, but give him a pass. To be a follower is this man is to want the good ole days back, before we could vote or had to accept the advances of these white men whom thought we loved their advances. Limbaugh can't keep anyone - his bigotry is sickening.
To Bush, Limbaugh, Cheney and the others - its a new day. I am not a victim as you think and I will be glad when you fade into the past or future or to your god.
It's funny how ol' Rush Limpnoodle can even find the nerve to pass judgement on someone else. Remember a few years back when Robert Downey Jr. was having his troubles with his drug addiction Mr. Limpnoodle said all drug users were filth and needed to be locked away. Only to be found doctor shopping for drugs, forcing his maids to get him drugs, and going to other countries to buy drugs. Simply amazing the hipocracy ALL these people have and we(some of us) believe them blindly like rats follwing the pied piper!
Oh, and Mr. Limpnoodle, don't hate on Jesse Jackson cause he can still get it on without the use of a little blue rocket booster you so desperately crave!
Listen, Imus didn't get fired from MSMBC because Sharpton and Jackson demanded it. He got fired from MSNBC because those, nice, clean, moderate black MSNBC employees demanded it. He got fired from CBS because a black CBS board member weighed in on the matter. If Jackson and Sharpton had been the only prominent people calling for his canning, Imus would still be sitting in that studio, sneering and laughing at them.
One more thing- I'm really intrigued by this concept of avoiding being a "victim" by not taking action when someone offends you. How does that work? If someone punches me, and I blow their head off, that makes me a weak victim? Gotta ponder that one:).
And one more thing, lol. It didn't work in the end, but it was a PR masterstroke to have Imus to go on Sharpton's radio show, rather than speak to someone like say, Tavis Smiley. Hell, I didn't even know Sharpton had a radio show, and I'll bet most of you didn't either.
I guess "shock and awe" is reserved for white guys, huh?:)
"[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize"
As opposed to say,"Republicans"?
I think Republicans do much for which they should apologize, they just are somehow largely physically incapable of doing something like apologizing when it is appropriate. Apologizing makes you look weak. Republicans must appear confident and strong at all times.
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sums this all up beautifully, read it
No it doesnt it sums the situation up delusionally. Blaming the victim. There is NO obligation for anyone to ignore abuse from a jerk because someone ELSE thinks there is a larger problem elsewhere.
All these Republican’ts have some goodness in there character. I’m not happy for any of them to be fired unless the benefits to our country outweighs the harmful effects of their lies, hateful rhetoric and ugly comments against women, minorities and others.
O’Really, Limpbrain, Beck, Coulter, Savage, Hannity and others are more hateful than Imas. I hope the same public pressure on media advertisers that ended the Imas abuse will evolve into a marketplace correction. A correction that will get the hateful, abusive, liars off of the public media outlets.
I am very hopeful. For a really good discussion of this historic event please point your browser to the NBC WebSite to view the "Meet The Press" Show that was broadcast on Sunday.
Thanks, Sam I Am