Debbie Schlussel suspected VA Tech shooter might be a "Paki," part of "terrorist attack"
Responding to the April 16 mass shooting at Virginia Tech, right-wing pundit Debbie Schlussel "speculat[ed]" in an April 16 weblog post that the shooter, who had been identified at that point only as a man of Asian descent, might be a "Paki" Muslim and part of "a coordinated terrorist attack." "Paki" is a disparaging term for a person of Pakistani descent.
Schlussel wrote, "The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as a young Asian male," adding, "The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan." Schlussel continued: "Pakis are considered 'Asian,' " and asked, "Were there two [shooters] and was this a coordinated terrorist attack?" Schlussel asserted that the reason she was "speculating that the 'Asian' gunman is a Pakistani Muslim" was "[b]ecause law enforcement and the media strangely won't tell us more specifically who the gunman is." Schlussel claimed that "[e]ven if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students."
In updates to her posting, after more information became known about the shooter, Schlussel first claimed that "[t]he shooter has now been identified as a Chinese national here on a student visa," which she called "[y]et another reason to stop letting in so many foreign students." Schlussel later wrote that the killer was a "South Korean national." The killer was later identified as Cho Seung-Hui, "a South Korean who was a resident alien in the United States."
As Media Matters for America noted, in a December 18, 2006, online post headlined "Barack Hussein Obama: Once a Muslim, Always A Muslim," Schlussel argued that because Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) middle name is Hussein, his late, estranged father was of Muslim descent, and he has shown interest in his father's Kenyan heritage, Obama's "loyalties" must be called into question. As Media Matters also noted, on the June 14 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Schlussel falsely claimed that "there wasn't a peep" from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) when Suha Arafat, wife of former Palestinian National Authority president Yasir Arafat, stated that Israelis "poison Palestinian water and air and cause cancer for them." In fact, according to an October 6, 2000, New York Times article, Clinton disavowed Arafat's remarks after receiving an official translation "hours later."
Another example of conservative bigotry and racism.
Conservatives view PC as a threat because it has the gall to hold them accountable for their misogynistic and racist remarks.
GOP-the standard bearer for contemporary racism.
And your ridiculous blanket accusations of racism against conservatives needs no accountability, right? Got it.
I guess you don't read the entries on this site that document the HUNDREDS of incidents of racist remarks by conservatives in the media.
This idiot woman tarred the residents of an entire COUNTRY before she even knew the nationality of the shooter. That is racist.
Then hang your accusations specifically on this woman. She said, she owns it.
OK, that is a reasonable point. I even agree with it. I think the several reasonable conservative posters here have all by themselves shown that they abhor racism and the racist conservatives generalization is not justified.
And, for every Tommy, Jeter, Bruce1ace... there are 10x as many making excuses for these bigoted liars. If you've hung around this site long enough, you know that to be true. Just because Tommy's defensive doesn't mean there's some truth in the poster's claim.
ISN'T some truth in.... (oh well).
And for every decent, honest liberal here there are those that race bait and haul out offensive, inflammatory labels at those simply over political differences.......are you equally as comfortable being lumped in with them?
I agree with you and Solon both. And, no ... I do not like being lumped (with anyone quite frankly). I get your point.
Why is it that her image on video doesn't look at all like the photochopped picture on her web site ??? teeheeeeee
I think there is. I know conservatives that arent bigots. I dont think its appropriate to use the broad brush. I dont see bigotry as a conservative trait. Also we are talking HERE, I think the regular conservatives HERE, have earned more respect than that. The ones that have shown the opposite can be dealt with specifically. Thats my take
Agreed. Anyone who's hung around this site long enough (me included) also knows... that using the 'broad brush' is a sure-fire way to taken to the cleaners. I've been guilty in the past... and have had my clock cleaned many times :)
It's approaching thousands now, FYI...
Name one prominent white conservative who has campaigned, fought or legislated for racial equality. I'm willing to be convinced that at least one exists.
Racial equality in liberal terms means affirmative action based on skin color - which is reverse racism.
for someone who complains about liberals making blanket statements, you sure seem to have a handy list yourself. Why is that?
You're right - I should have said "some". Noted.
tommy whines again...better call the WAAAAAHmbulence for him!
Fine. Dodge the question. You'd make a great WH spokesperson.
BTW, I'm not talking about employer quotas.
Fill me in on your "racial equality" statement please?
Then American history must be a new subject for you. I'll give you a few examples that illustrate what racial equality is:
A person of any color being able to sit anywhere he/she wants on a public transit bus.
A person of any color being able to sit anywhere he/she wants in a theater.
A person of any color being able to rent an apartment without the landlord having the legal freedom to say, "I don't rent to (insert slur here)'s".
A person of any color being able to apply to and attend a public university of their choice.
A person of any color being able to cast their vote in an election and be assured that their ballot will not be discarded.
Please show me where the scenarios you described are sanctioned, approved or endorsed by any conservative elected mainstream politician.
I meant - show me where they are not.
Trent Lott, for starters.
Look, many make the claim almost on a daily basis that conservatism is racist. Yet nobody can demonstrate one mainstream conservative politician that is advocating passing any law that will result in racial inequality. That is the meat of the charge, not some example of what someone said. Prove your assertion through proposed legislation on any substantive basis backed by mainstream conservativism, or the charges that flow here endlessly are just inflammatory hyperbole, nothing more.
I don't think there is anyone proposing what you suggest. However, we do know the republicans disenfranchise minorities via voting restrictions. We have seen numerous examples of voter registration purges directed at the black community in particular. The list of those wrongly removed from the rolls is a long one. That is subtle racism disguised as concern over illegal voting.
Tommy's thought 'process': Change the topic...darn! that usually works...alright, how about your words make no sense...oh wait, yah they do...better qualify my question a bit better...name one who supports...dang! for a bunch of bong heads, these guys are quick...Ok, name one person who signed an actual piece of legislation, written on 20 stock paper and with a blue pen, on Tuesday...before a full moon.
Have you made it narrow enough yet Tommy to get the answer you are looking for?
Equating "never signed legisilation" to "not a racist" displays complete ignorance of the topic at hand, and one would be best served recusing oneself from the topic before they look even sillier.
That's a Freudian slip if I ever read one!
Randy
During his Dixiecrat days, Strom Thurmond filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957. He also ran for president on the States Rights Democratic Party in 1948.Tren Lott: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."
Thanks for showing that currently, not 50 years ago, there is no proposed legislation by any mainstream conservative that wants people of a certain color to sit in the back of the bus, in the back of a theater, or be denied from attending a public university.
If you want recent history, look no further than what happened with the 2000 voting in Forida, thanks to Jeb Bush and his henchwoman, Katherine Harris.
I got it, Jeb Bush does not want certain minorities to vote. Thanks for clarifying...........'Nuff said.
You have finally seen the light, brother! AMEN!! For the full story on the 2000 Supreme Court Handout (read: welfare for a certain illiterate) read Michael Moore's book... lots there about the behind the scenes of the *election*...
Well, if Michael Moore said it, then it must be gospel. Thanks for helping.
OK that is ridiculous. The shenigans Florida pulled in 2000 to limit the minority vote is well established. Even when told by their own supreme court TWICE what they were doing was unconstitutional they contined to use felon lists from states where voting rights are automatically reinstated after probation to delete valid voters. They used a computer program that allowed anyone whose personal information was 90% the same as those ALREADY LEGAL VOTERS to ALSO be deleted. Harris wrote to the company telling them that their verification software WOULDNT BE NECESSARY. When told BY THE COMPANY that they were deleting valid voters their answer was they didnt care it was more important to take out invalid voters than to assure valid voters WERENT deleted THEN told them to change the protocol so that they deleted voters if their personal information were 80% the same. We all know what was going on there. I don't think they did it for racial prejudice beyond knowing minority voters vote more often for Dems but please. Unless you were either hiding under a rock in Sri Lanka or purposefully avoided the information you KNOW this is true. You ought to be ashamed of the Florida GOP for doing that not pretending it didnt happen.
Solon!! Please do not disrupt Tommy's universe with FACTS!!! They give him ow-wees!
Tommy,
People do change, society and its mores change over time; but it took a long time for social conservatives to catch up on the equality issue. I think most reasonably enlighten people believe in the inherent merits of all items on the list, but historically the conservatives in our society have always been slower and sometimes they have been down right obstructing in extending equal rights to minority groups and women. Remember the letter to MLK about being patient and waiting? That came from the conservative clergy. The progressive clergy like MLK and Jesus was saying oh no not one more minute. BTW ALL, Please note that I did not specify a political affiliation because many of the Southern Democrats that filibusteried civil rights legislation shortly there after became life long Republicans ala Strom (I love me some Black Chicks) Thurman. Conservatives have often been on the wrong side of this issue and I think this has tarnished their image on race issues and I believe that it is what has definitely kept Blacks and other minority groups away.
Oh, and please tell that to your senior Democratic Senator from W.Va. who was a member of the KKK. It's equally as relevant as your examples.
'My' Senators represent Oregon, not West Virginia. But yes, Byrd is another example.
And you're still dodging and diverting.
You gave me an example from 50 years ago, and I'm dodging? Now that's rich!
Lott made his statement in 2002, for which he had to backpedal like mad.
I also cited the voting issue above.
Please show me a mainstream conservative politician who is advocating laws or policies that promote racial inequality.
C'mon Tommy, that's such a dodge. Turn it around, and give me examples of Republican sponsored legislation that would advance equality among different races, sexes, or those with different sexual orientation. I'm sure I can double your results with Democratic results.
No, the charge was made that conservatism is racist, or words to that affect. So I am asking for legislative proof of that.
I don't need legislation, stated intent, written, spoken, or merely glared is good enough for me thank you. Case by case, always subject to new information.
The current State Attourney General voted agsinst automatic reinstatement ofcivil rights for all non-violent offenders. This policy change was, admittedly, instigated by Charlie Christ, also a Republican. But Christ was moving against the conservative wing of the republican party with this policy initiative.
Of all the current members in the KKK, Aryan Nation, or any other hate group in this country, how may of those members do you think voted for John Kerry versus George Bush.
hmmmmmm I wonder.
I almost wish Byrd had followed suit with the "former" Democratic racist that decided to make the Republican Party their home, you know, Strom Thurman, Jesse Helms, fill in the blank. Seriously though if you want to play name that racist I think we can come up with longer lists.
Tommy,
You said "Please show me where the scenarios you described are sanctioned, approved or endorsed by any conservative elected mainstream politician"
There likely isn't any conservative politician that would be so bold and or blatant as to come out and say that they endorse any of those types of senarios......
However, they sure do enjoy the fact that there are plenty of people that do! And are more than willing to vote for them simply because they (conservative politicians) claim a higher morality and bring up useless arguments like flag burniing and gay marriage instead of tackling issues like how our economy really does suck right now and the true disaster called Iraq!
Racism isn't just words, it's actions or the lack of actions to do something to help rid our society of it!
I have to disagree Tommy in respect to your characterization of Affirmative Action. Affirmative Action has done good, including diversifying our schools, and work places, and has given oppurtunities to those on lower economic levels. The stats show that a large portion of people on the lowest economic level are minorities. It is also known that most urban city schools have very low educational standards, and the citizens of these areas are punished because of this. What are we as Americans going to do to solve these problems. Affirmative Action is a step to ensure everyone has equal oppurtunities in this country...
Barry,
I have no issue with affirmative action policies for economically disadvantaged youth, nobody should be denied an education because they can't affort it.
That's not true and your making HUGE BROAD strokes there yourself Tommy.
Paki is a racist slur tommy. Its like other racists slurs I tried to type but the computerized moniter wont allow them even with symbols in the place of letters
Show me where I said it was not a racist slur? I merely wanted this woman's words her own and not attributed to anyone else.
Fair point, I misunderstood your post. Mea Culpa
Not a problem, thanks for the comment above about not attributing stupid comments like these to all conservatives.
Hey you get what you deserve from me. I may disagree entirely with you and Wesley, Bruce and Jeter but you have consistantly shown hostility to racism and bigotry. You guys dont deserve to be painted with the Schussel brush.
I agree. The argument that ALL conservatives are all racist is just ridiculous. Just like Ann Coulter calling all of us "Godless Heathens." To be frank I am really sick of shock jocks on both sides of the aisle making blanket statements about each other
I understand that the term "Paki" (also spelled "Pakki") is especially common in Great Britain as--you guessed it--a racist epithet.
Especially so from the early 1970's on, if memory serves me right.
All we have to do is read your posts, Tommy, and we can see all the proof of right-wing racism we need.
Hey Tom, let me get this straight. When it comes to racial profiling and wrongful imprisonment of "enemy combatants," blanket accusations are okay, but they're not okay when discussing conservative bigotry? Just call it "Political Profiling." Lighten up, man, you're whining like a liberal.
And maybe if you could, for once, address the issue of interest (in this case, the idiotic conservative blogger) instead of trolling for faulty logic among the other posters. While you might find one poster's use of a blanket attack on conservatives abhorrant, it pales in comparison to the real issue. The issue is that a blogger (conservative or otherwise) used this horrific episode in our nation's history as a launchpad for Arab-bashing and Bush-brand fear-mongering.
Like it or not, this garbage was spewed from your side of the aisle, so if you're not condemning her remarks, one would have to assume you support them.
Obviously you haven't read what I have written about this woman's remarks. If not, you would do your credibility well to do so before you blather on and look ridiculous. If you've already read them and still stand by your assertion that I either haven't addressed them, or endorse them.......then your name calling is just more of the same.
Okay, I think I found it. Among the 30 or so of your posts quarrelling with other posters, I think I found an actual take on the issue:
What she is another in a long line of invective-spewing, Coulter-wannabes who want to grab onto the liberal bashing gravy train and somehow pray for traction so she can maybe write a book, or get a talk show, or a column, or a guest stint on Hannity and Colmes regularly. Giving her any legitimacy here or elsewhere only fuels her hope.
Fair enough. I retract my claim that you support this idiot. You have to admit, though, that it would be a snowy day in hell when a liberal is caught saying something like this. And I won't shy away from making blanket accusations just because you disapprove. I happen to believe racial profiling has some purpose, as long as profiling is used in the context of intelligence, not of a witchhunt. To dismiss blanket statements, stereotypes, or laws of probability is to dismiss fundamental human hueristics. So you are right, not every conservative pundit or blogger is a fear-mongering bigot. But enough of them are as to be problematic for a society seemingly desiring to advance itself.
So perhaps you don't support the rantings of this woman, but you do seem to have spent an inordinate amount of time in debate with liberals on this site who apparently share your opinion. If you had any real conviction about this issue, rather than preaching to the choir here, you might look at the top of the page where it says "TAKE ACTION." But I guess that would mean taking a break from trolling the liberal message boards.
As a liberal and activist, I beleive that it's unfair to label all conservatives as bigots and racists. These right wing radio and TV people are doing the job they are paid to do - raise ratings, get sponsors and make money for the stations. It's extremism for profit. I think we have much more in common with conservatives then these loud-mouthed and hatefull individuals would lead us to beleive. Debbie Schlussel hasn't been to visible lately (she's gottten kind of chunky) but I wonder if her sudden reappearance is a primer to replace coulter.
I know conservatives and their standard bearer Dubya aren't big on geography but Asia is kind of a big place. And isn't Pakistan theoretically an ally?
Allied with WHOM?
OT I know - Pakistan is allied all right, but since they've given the tribal regions a big King's X, just whom they're allied with isn't all that clear.
Seems to me that General Pervez Musharraf is acting kinda like a modern day Tito.
only with dumbaya, they 'think' alike...as little as possible. plus they both want to keep OBL alive
Debbie is a fear-mongering, rabble rouser... I was *watching* Fake Snooze yesterday and that blonde girl, who got her start at the Terri Schivio (sp?) debacle kept saying 'It is a china man, someone from China... my source says it is a person from China, a chinese person...' It is crazy how all these morons keep harping on the suppossed 'race' of someone instead of focusing on theior intent or motives...or getting their facts correct...
"Dude. China-man is not the preferred nomenclature..."
Walter Sobchek - The Big Lebowski
This is not someone who helped build the railroads!
How long before all we hear is "he wasn't white!" These people really blow it trying to prove that whites don't stoop to doing badness.
Hahaha, yes !!! I think they should start doing that ! Should mention religion too, unless of course the freak was a Christian ....
Debbie Schlussel has proven to be a complete idiot in this case. I can't say that I've ever heard of her.
Apparently another screeching political provocateur aiming for some speck of relevancy by hauling out insulting invective. She is probably thanking this website as we type for raising her awareness.
Well Tommy, we agree on something. I had blessedly never heard of this farago. BTW, check the use of the pronoun she used to refer to "Pakis:" which, instead of who. A telling choice I think.
Bruce,
I've never heard of her either. MMFA must have one hell of a huge staff to track down every Tom, Dick, Harry & Debby and other lesser known voices.
On the Right you have a certain segment that immediately screams Terrorists! Terrorism! anytime anything violent happens, or anything of a suspicious nature. Even if there is little or no evidence.
On the Left you have a certain segment that pooh-poohs any mention of Terrorism or Terrorists even if there is evidence, or might possibly be.
Both segments are annoying.
Huge staff? It's a reader tip. It says so right there.
I stand corrected Johnny B Good.
Nothing else to comment on in my post?
Ah well...
Jeter, You misspelled "Debby", it should be "Debbie"........better get that fixed right away. And please pay closer attention to whether it's the staff or reader's tip, will ya????
Hahaha thanks Tommy, I keep forgetting when some here can't attack or address what a poster has to say they go for the minutia.
Anything to point out you're wrong about something-anything [only if you're a Conservative of course] ;-)
hahaha it was not a spelling mistake pointed out, but a significant element in your post, namely implying MMFA was wasting huge staff looking for itty bitty nonsense by a itty bitty commentator.
The response simply debunked your claim that it was huge MMFA staff that found this. Secondly the object of this post gets significant air time on cable news debunking your second point that it is insignificant.
ajwan,
You thought that was a significant part of my post? Well all righty then, I see what you find important. Actually I don't believe I was suggesting MMFA was wasting their time, I think I was more in awe at how large a staff they must employ to dig up nobodies like Debbie. In this case it was a reader tip...wow ya got me! *roll eyes*
Sorry but I've never heard of her, and as a Conservative I'm pretty informed about my team and who is on it.
She's obviously not a significant player. She gets significant air-time?...where? Here, maybe ;-)
What about the rest of my post, funny you never even tried to address it.
Don't bother. Your opinions are never really interesting.
"Sorry but I've never heard of her, and as a Conservative I'm pretty informed about my team and who is on it."
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Jeter:
Schlussel is a reasonably well-known talk show host and a sometimes fixture on Fox. You have heard of her since you've commented on past threads about her, though maybe you just forgot you knew about her (I know I'd like to).
As to your other point, I will cede that there are some on the left who are overly sanguine about the real dangers presented by terrorism. I disagree with the most extreme among them who believe that there is no threat, but I lay at least part of this at the door of Bush and the portions of the media, who have cynically so over-hyped the issue that a knee-jerk reaction against anything they say on the topic is at least somewhat understandable.
On a personal note, I'll add that Blacksburg is my home town and that both of my parents are Tech professors. My father regularly teaches at Norris Hall where the bulk of the shootings occurred(fortunately not on the day they took place) so I'm taking this story somewhat personally. Schlussel's comments on this tragedy were both ignorant and disgusting.
Debbie will be happy to know that she has at least one reader, and a liberal one at that.
A liberal one at that
And how do you know, Bruce, that the reader is a liberal? Are you admitting that a conservative wouldn't be honest enough to point out conservative misinformation?
That was a very good comeback! If it were me I would probably just respond directly to Debby in the blog post as I do in this forum as opposed to notifying Media Matters, but I can't speak for anyone else.
A terrorist around every corner is what some of these folks see. Anything bad that happens now, instantly, or almost instantly, gets blamed on terrorism, or the first thing that you might hear is that, "This wasn't a terrorist attack".
I love when morons put there foot in their mouth.
Don't these people ever wait to confirm something? Or do they just engage in, headlong, in their hate-speak? No wonder they look like idiots when the facts finally do come in.
thank god they don't allow lynchings anymore. These types and their followers would just start hanging everyone and when the truth is finally revealed, they'd just go oopsies. my bad.
Debbie's real classy in the way she runs her blog, too.
If she likes your comment, she leaves it alone. If she doesn't and wants to rebut, she does so by defacing your comment with her words written in ALL CAPS.
If she doesn't like your comment and has no rebuttal, she just deletes the comment.
I was just checking out her page via a link on CrooksandLiars- just like she said, she goes after people ALL IN CAPS every time they call her on using the word "Paki." Kinda funny to see her calling them "ignorant."
For those fascinated with her Debbie Schlussel's insolence, this thread from Free Republic is especially entertaining. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798199/posts
Watch as Schlussel shows up in post 33 under the handle Cool Chick to defend her own writing. Marvel as even the deep thinkers at Free Republic let her have it. Ultimately, they figure out that Cool Chick is indeed Schlussel, although she lies about it. And then she is banned from the discussion.
For Schussel fanatics, this is great stuff.
Then why does MMFA waste it's time reporting on some extreme example/fringe "Sybil-like" clown?
So that she doesn't appear on Scarborough Country or Michael Reagan or Fox News Radio or anywhere else anymore to spread her small-minded hatred and get paid for it.
Isn't that the point here?
I would hope the point is to highlight real instances of a media person or politician deliberately misleading or putting forth misinformation as it relates to important issues that face our country.
Not scolding media screechers as they try and get publicity out of some overblown invective they slur out to their audience.
I would call an attempt to link a South Korean mass murderer in Virginia to radical Islam misleading, wouldn't you?
I never questioned the misleading nature of this woman's slur. What myself and others have questioned is her negligible influence on anything or anyone other than her rabid fans, most likely minute.
She is a media figure, having appeared on the programs I mentioned. True, the slur was on her blog, but she get works as an on-air pundit. She seems to fit your criteria.
Have no idea why you continue to ignore the fact that she is a media figure. But I do understand your thought that if we ignore the empty headed idiots they'll eventually go way. Unfortunately a huge industry of spin, misinformation, and bigotry blossomed because of it being ignored.
Her influence is negligible. But most of these people on the fringes of the right and left wing media have dreams of moving up to the big leagues. I think this is a fair comment on minor league conservative misinformation.
All of todays Right Wing media big shots started out somewhere.
Answered your own question better than I could:
Solon,
What she is another in a long line of invective-spewing, Coulter-wannabes who want to grab onto the liberal bashing gravy train and somehow pray for traction so she can maybe write a book, or get a talk show, or a column, or a guest stint on Hannity and Colmes regularly. Giving her any legitimacy here or elsewhere only fuels her hope.
- tommy / Tuesday April 17, 2007 03:50:56 PM EST
If she is not a REAL media person why would she be invited on MSNBC? You seem to want to portray her as some crazy lady screeching at people in the park.
Solon,
What she is another in a long line of invective-spewing, Coulter-wannabes who want to grab onto the liberal bashing gravy train and somehow pray for traction so she can maybe write a book, or get a talk show, or a column, or a guest stint on Hannity and Colmes regularly. Giving her any legitimacy here or elsewhere only fuels her hope.
How does pointing out that she's a nut-job racist give her credibility?
Publicity whores love any kind of publicity - good or bad. They have to start somewhere to get noticed.
You've got it backwards because she gets credibility from Scarborough and Fox she gets covered here.
I'm figuring they have enough of a staff to be able to do both. Had to spend all that Soros cash somewhere, ya know...
I'll bet that several NeoClowns were disappointed to find out that it was just another nut with a legally purchased gun. Since South Korea is not a member of Bush's "Axis of Evil", this incident has zero propaganda value for them.
Schliessel is also probably very disappointed that there isn't a common ethnic slur for Koreans.
Actually, I'm wrong. There's one that starts with a g that she can probably use.
Maybe we should dress Tommy up like a Muslim and send him on a Borat trip across this great country or perhaps a homosexual or a black person or a woman or a............
When I first heard that the killer was Asian, I immediately thought of the additional anguish, on top of what all members of the Virginia Tech community are experiencing, that is now being felt by the large, vibrant Virginia Tech Asian community.
These woman's words are hurtful and need to be condemned.
Thank you MediaMatters.
OMG. What kind of parallel universe are these conservatives (I hate to use that word, it's a smear on the old-time, intellectually honest cons) living in???
Aside form everything else, young Asian males are a rarity among mass murderers. Typically, mass murders are committed by middle-aged, middle-class white males.
Apparently MMFA thinks Debbie Schlussel is from Great Britain, because Paki is British slang and NOT a slur in America.
"The racist connotations are only known in the UK. In Australia, the Pakistani cricket team are commonly referred to as the Pakis"
from wikipedia. Shame on MMFA for more race-baiting by lying that this was a slur.
Ah, so because a racist slur isn't as common in the U.S., it isn't offensive? Enlighten us. What is the uniquely American racist slur for South Asians?
Leather, why do you even bother coming here?
Paki / Pakki(Primarily UK and Canada, sometimes US and India) a Pakistani or other South Asian. It is usually considered offensive when used by a non-South Asian in the UK,[102]Link
I'm almost sure that US, means United States. (at least the last time I checked).
Now whine and attack me on something that has nothing to do with your pos or mine (as usual).
This is almost too easy.
(Neo-Cons cause cancer!)
Oh and before you cut and paste an item look at the source. Your source came from this page....
List of ethnic slurs From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from PAKI) Do you suspect that the word, that only and I mean only, appears in Wikipedia in the list of ethnic slurs; is probably a enthic slur no matter where its said.Ok it did not show up like it was supposed to. This is what I posted to leather, from his quote.
List of ethnic slurs
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Paki)
That sources says "sometimes U.S." What does that mean -- it is a slur on Monday, Wednesday and Friday but ok the rest of the days?
It is "considered offensive if used by a non-South Asian in Britain" if they are left-handed, wearing a beard and eating with the fork in the right hand.
This obscure race-baiting accusations are ridiculous.
Schlussel jumps overboard on muslim accusations quite frequently, so you have to her blog with a grain of salt.
You have GOT to be kidding. Its a racial slur. PERIOD. All your pathetic dancing around the reality of this situation changes the color of the sky one whit. It would be obvious to ANYONE, not comitted to ideological blindness that sometimes means its not in wide usage. Which doesnt change the FACT its a racial slur one bit.
Oh, I see. Now we are one giant culture in which all slur words are universal.
Better tell that the Australian cricket team whose nickname is the Pakis.
I dont care what Australias cultural thoughts are on racist slurs. This IS a racist slur period. Wikipedia lists it on their LIST of racist slurs. Dance all you want the sky will still be blue and Paki will STILL be a racist slur.
Baloney. I am an American and I knew it was a racist slur. So did she.
I have a very good Pakistani friend and she says Paki is a slur, so I'll take her opinion over yours since she is Pakistani and she knows what offends her.
Ms. Scheißel can be counted on to take anything from current events (Including Barack Obama) and somehow turn it into a case of "(dark-skinned) Peril." Ironic that someone descended from Holocaust survivors could be such a screeching brownshirt.
Schlussel writes of Obama that his "loyalties" must be questioned because he shows an interest in his father's heritage? Well then, we must conclude that we have excellent grounds to question George Bush's loyalties since he is a direct descendant of the royal English family. And since he seems all to willing to wield dictatorial powers including but not limited to illegal search and siezure, suspension of habeus corpus etc. we should immediately impeach the b-a-s-t-a-r-d forth with.
Pakis is not a slur. Get a life. You people want to jump on every word that is said.
Paki IS a slur. Grow a brain.
Cho had written 'ISMAIL AX" on his arm just prior to his attack.
It's looking like Debbie Schlussel was probably correct...the VT shooting will turn out to be just the latest in a string of mass murders committed by Muslims in the US; e.g., Salt Lake City shopping mall, Everett, WA Jewish Center, Chapel Hill University SUV rampage....all of which were quickly swept under the rug by the PC Muslim-loving mainstream media.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266523,00.html
"It's looking like Debbie Schlussel was probably correct...the VT shooting will turn out to be just the latest in a string of mass murders committed by Muslims in the US"
Nonsense.
Its just as likely he misspelled Ismeal. He was taking a creative writing class. Coopers Ismeal carried an ax and Moby Dick is one of the most famous novels in the world. Nothing so far connects this with Islam except of course your omnipresent bigotry
Condolences to the family and friends of the departed. 32 people dead, and Schlussel uses this tragedy to further her despicable agenda. How does this woman sleep?
Hey Debbie, the fact that there has been no organized jihad in the US in five and a half years just kills you and your bigoted fans, doesn't it?
Another self righteous loser who's own race has committed more crimes than anyone else. I guess she forgot about Harris and Kleboid or McVeigh and Nicoles to name a few. Her racism is her evilness and ignorance. Race affects people like her in odd and tricky ways. They are much more entrenched by their discomfort and paranoia than they let on.
My thoughts are how can anyone continue on taking these pepole serious. Like the people they take their lead from (this administration) who keep changing their facts daily.
Glad she wasn't vindicated when the killer's identity became known.
Anybody with half a brain cannot take Debbie Schlussel seriously. She has made a career out of always being wrong. She always jumps the gun before all the facts are in and then falsely concludes that whatever is wrong is the fault of Islam or Muslims. Her web-site reads like sometihng out of Julius Streicher's rants against the Jews in the 1930s in Germany. You would think that she is a representative for the zionist terror Kach movement, that is so radical even the State of Israel has banned it.
She used to be on the Howard Stern show. That were she said NPR, was short for "National Palestinian Radio".