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Having promised "update" of Feb. column predicting Bush "comeback," Broder did not mention it

May 07, 2007 5:06 pm ET
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During a May 4 washingtonpost.com online chat, Washington Post columnist David Broder told readers that his then-upcoming May 6 column would be his "best effort at an update" to his February 16 column in which he asserted that President Bush was "poised for a political comeback." In his May 6 column, titled "A War the Public Will End," Broder did not in any way address his assertion that Bush had been "poised for a comeback," much less note that the predicted comeback did not occur. Rather, in that column, Broder took the position that Bush has a short-term advantage over Democrats on Iraq because Bush "has a clear plan" for the war strategy, whereas "[t]he Democratic-controlled Congress ... lacks agreement on any such plan." Broder asserted that Bush's "high-risk policy" of "apply[ing] more military force in and around Baghdad in hopes of suppressing the sectarian violence and creating space for the Iraqi politicians to assemble a functioning government," had "no guarantee of success. But it is a clear strategy."

Yet, to make this argument of a short-term advantage for Bush, Broder shifted, without explanation, his characterization of the likelihood of success of Bush's "strategy." As Media Matters for America has noted, Broder stated on April 30 that it "is really doubtful" Bush's "effort to try to salvage something that would look like a victory in Iraq" is "achievable." Broder added that Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, "probably has until August or September to produce something that would be tangible. If he can do it, that would be wonderful, but I think the odds are against him." Broder reaffirmed this belief during the same May 4 online chat, in which he stated that his May 6 column was intended as his "best effort at an update" of his February 16 column. In the chat, Broder stated that it was "highly improable [sic]" that the "the new tactiucs [sic] in Baghdad" would yield a successful result. But now, in "updat[ing]" his February 16 column, he has shifted his assessment of the likelihood of success of Bush's strategy, from highly improbable to the more optimistic "no[t] guarantee[d]."

From Broder's February 16 column:

It may seem perverse to suggest that, at the very moment the House of Representatives is repudiating his policy in Iraq, President Bush is poised for a political comeback. But don't be astonished if that is the case.

Like President Bill Clinton after the Democrats lost control of Congress in 1994, Bush has gone through a period of wrenching adjustment to his reduced status. But just as Clinton did in the winter of 1995, Bush now shows signs of renewed energy and is regaining the initiative on several fronts.

More important, he is demonstrating political smarts that even his critics have to acknowledge.

His reaction to the planned House vote opposing the increase he ordered in U.S. troops deployed to Iraq illustrates the point.

When Bush faced reporters on Wednesday morning, he knew that virtually all those in the Democratic majority would be joined by a significant minority of Republicans in voting today to decry the "surge" strategy.

He did three things to diminish the impact of that impending defeat.

First, he argued that the House was at odds with the Senate, which had within the past month unanimously confirmed Gen. David H. Petraeus as the new commander in Iraq -- the man Bush said was the author of the surge strategy and the man who could make it work. Bush has made Petraeus his blocking back in this debate -- replacing Vice President Cheney, whose credibility is much lower.

Second, he minimized the stakes in the House debate by endorsing the good motives of his critics, rejecting the notion that their actions would damage U.S. troops' morale or embolden the enemy -- all by way of saying that the House vote was no big deal.

And third, by contrasting today's vote on a nonbinding resolution with the pending vote on funding the war in Iraq, he shifted the battleground to a fight he is likely to win -- and put the Democrats on the defensive. Much of their own core constituency wants them to go beyond nonbinding resolutions and use the power of the purse to force Bush to reduce the American commitment in Iraq.

From the washingtonpost.com May 4 online discussion, "Broder on Politics":

Arden, N.C.: Mr. Broder, you stated that you would revisit your Bush bounce column. We haven't seen it yet. Is it coming any time soon?

David S. Broder: The column for Sunday is an effort to explain why Bush has a tactical advantage over the Democrats att the moment, but why it is unlikely to last. That's my best effort at an update.

[...]

Minneapolis: Do you believe there is a scenario in which the President would be able to raise his approval ratings back up into the normal historical range (meaning 45 percent or higher)? If so, what is it?

David S. Broder: If the new tactiucs in Baghdad and the addition of 20,000 troops actually reduce the level of violence in the country, and if the Iraqi politicians take advantage of the lull to compose their differences and form a functioning government, then the president could have a comeback. But I think the combination of events is highly improable.

From Broder's May 6 Washington Post column, titled "A War the Public Will End":

In this moment, the commander in chief has a clear plan -- to apply more military force in and around Baghdad in hopes of suppressing the sectarian violence and creating space for the Iraqi politicians to assemble a functioning government.

It is a high-risk policy with no guarantee of success. But it is a clear strategy.

The Democratic-controlled Congress, on the other hand, lacks agreement on any such plan. Most Democrats are unwilling to exercise their right to cut off funds for the war in Iraq, lest they be accused of abandoning the troops in the middle of the fight.

Lacking the will to do that, they are forced to an uncomfortable alternative. They are proposing to continue financing a war that most of them oppose, while placing conditions on the conduct of the war that the president says will reduce the chances of his strategy succeeding.

That claim, whatever its merits, places the Democrats on the defensive. It is not a comfortable position, but it is where they find themselves -- for now.

But it is only for now. Come September, when Gen. David Petraeus, the commander in Iraq, says that he will be able to judge whether the new tactics and the nearly 30,000 additional troops have turned the tide in the effort to reduce the carnage in Baghdad, different political forces will prevail.

If he is successful and if the Iraqis begin to make the political accommodations needed to form a stable government, the president will be in a far better position to rally domestic support for the cause. If not, you can expect to see many congressional Republicans joining the Democrats in a demand for a "Plan B" that would probably lead to an early exit by a substantial portion of American troops.

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    • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 5:12 pm ET)
         

      Here it comes.  We shall be asked, "Why is this here...."

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    • Author by conleytgwinn (May 07, 2007 5:14 pm ET)
         

      Ahhh . . . but the rebound can now begin from the much lower base of current 28% approval . . .  so if Bungle can just "hold his own", a phrase that seems to bear some currency in the Beltway segment of the Corporate Media - an too often applied to "only minor losses this month, within the margin of error",  then by early 2008, he could indeed begin that rebound from the new base of 7% approval. No need for Broder to cut short the time frame for his prediction, is there?

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    • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 5:18 pm ET)
         

      One could only hope that, even if things improve in Iraq, the steady drip of evidence that the Bushies have lied about almost EVERYTHING would keep his numbers in the basement.  Of course, I may be grossly overestimating the intelligence of the American electorate.

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    • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 5:21 pm ET)
         

      On a brighter note:  how long before Puddinhead's numbers are lower than Cheney's?

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    • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 5:28 pm ET)
         

      This is absurd.  Broder was asked in an online chat when his Bush bounce update will occur.  He says that his next column is "his best effort", and then explains why.  It may be a skimpy effort, but it's the best Broder can muster considering his assertion from last February did not pan out.  

      Broder has the honesty and the integrity to say ["it's the best effort he has......"], and he is criticized here for some misinformation.  Would you rather he obfuscated completely or lied or made some ridiculous scenario up?  

      The article is his personal opinion, just because you don't share it is no reason for it being here.

       Bruce is right, this website is now poised to post opinion pieces simply out of disagreement.

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      • Author by anotheramerican (May 07, 2007 5:33 pm ET)
           

        Tommy,

        I'm not sure what your are getting at, but It seems rather elementary to me that  MMFA has been posting opinion pieces simply out of disagreement since the start.

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        • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 5:39 pm ET)
             

          AA,

          It seems to be getting much more prevalent than before, at least from my perspective.  

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        • Author by solon (May 07, 2007 7:22 pm ET)
             

          Yeah because opinion cannot be misinformation right? Like my opinion about your strange fascination with small furry animals?

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          • Author by CrescentDrive (May 08, 2007 12:58 am ET)
               

            Solon, you truly crack me up.. a couple of capitilized words in your post mihgt have made it more clear.. just my opinion..

            So, noone should state an opinion that someone might view as misinformation... man, I feel sorry for the guy who gets that censorshiip role.. you posts are doomed, dude

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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 08, 2007 1:00 pm ET)
                 

              "a couple of capitilized words in your post mihgt have made it more clear"

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              Why? Is it because they don't teach reading lower-case letters in your school district until the second grade? 

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (May 07, 2007 5:40 pm ET)
           

        OK, if you need good hard misinformation--

        "Bush... is demonstrating political smarts that even his critics have to acknowledge."

        Not only applying  a form of the word "smart" to Bush, but insulting many people by insisting they be as impressed as Broder.

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        • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 5:42 pm ET)
             

          It's his opinion, if you disagree with it, fine.   

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        • Author by pete592 (May 07, 2007 5:52 pm ET)
             

          This is the gem that caught my eye: 

          "In this moment, the commander in chief has a clear plan -- to apply more military force in and around Baghdad in hopes of suppressing the sectarian violence and creating space for the Iraqi politicians to assemble a functioning government."

          This "plan" is far from clear. 

          What is sending more troops going to do in an urban war zone against completely inconspicuous vehicles that can blow up at any given location, at any given time?

          What is sending more troops going to do against IED's buried on roadsides? 

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          • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 5:58 pm ET)
               

            It's Bush's plan, you disagree on it's effectiveness and I agree with you......but Broder is stating his view of Bush's plan.  Even if he were endorsing it, which he is not, it still would be strictly an opinion.

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            • Author by Brabantio (May 07, 2007 8:24 pm ET)
                 

              I'm curious, do you think that either his opinions (which are at odds with common sense and the vast majority of Americans), or his predictions (which fall flat) earn him widespread respect?

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      • Author by no.rompan9616 (May 07, 2007 6:40 pm ET)
           

        His column did not address in any way his previous comments that Bush was poised for a comeback. Whether he now has a clear plan or advantage over the democrats on the Iraq war cannot explain what was said in February.

        An honest way to follow up to those comments would have been to explain whether he err or not, why he thought that way then, and where did he go wrong (if he thinks he did.) The published column did not touch those issues; saying it was an effort to address them is, at best, a dodge.

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        • Author by ChristianDemocrat (May 08, 2007 11:41 am ET)
             

          Alot of comments on this thread, both supportive and critical, are missing the point.  You, however, nailed it.  Broder back-tracked, while dodging any admission of doing so.  It's subtle, but certain.

           

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      • Author by dangrady (May 08, 2007 10:33 am ET)
           

        SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

        Very Cheeky there Tommy!!! Broder is held up as Old Man Wisdom on the American Political Landscape, and the only landscape he's familiar with is the Mall, and the Beltway! If it weren't for the opinion that will get him along, he wouldn't have an opinion!!

        The only thing Broder any good at predicting is his own bowl movement!

        Not So Happy Thoughts;

        Dan Grady

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    • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 5:40 pm ET)
         

      See?  That didn't take long.

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      • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 5:44 pm ET)
           

        Nerzog,

        If you find valuable information in highlighting opinion pieces by columnists as benchmarks for conservative misinformation simply out of disagreement with some remark they include in a column, well, that is fine.

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        • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 5:51 pm ET)
             

          Actually, I do find it useful when those "opinions" are total B.S., or have no basis in fact.  Such Rush Limbaugh's oft-repeated bromide that the Democrats "own defeat".

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          • Author by NotThatGeorge (May 07, 2007 6:38 pm ET)
               

            More importantly, Media Matters controls their own website, and they think it's important enough to cover, and so it is Tommy's objections that are out of place.

            It's because Tommy's objections are out of place (if he doesn't think it's worthy of comment, he can refrain from commenting) that you have taken to co-opting his "why is this here" complaint by mocking him with your postings.

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        • Author by solon (May 07, 2007 7:21 pm ET)
             

          As Rompan said Did he say he was going to address his prediction about Bush's comeback? Yes he did. Did he in fact address that comeback? No he did not. Most likely out of flat embarassment that Bush is still sinking.

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 08, 2007 1:03 pm ET)
               

            And, in other news, Dick Cheney may be poised for a comeback. His approval rating has soared to 19.

            Not 19 per cent, 19 people. 

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    • Author by dave_chicago (May 07, 2007 6:00 pm ET)
         

      While "Dean" Broder enters day #81 of Waiting For Bush's Comeback (which is just going to happen any day now...)...

      Last week, another 30 more American kids were added to the list of 3,300 or so that won't be "coming back", ever.

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      • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 6:10 pm ET)
           

        And while Harry Reid publicly announces this war is "lost", yet continues to fund it nonetheless, and does not introduce legislation to bring home the troops immediately, instead of letting them languish in a "lost" war, Mr. Reid is a hypocrite.

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        • Author by Pithaughn (May 07, 2007 6:21 pm ET)
             

          I think you've got pragmatic and hypocrite mixed up there.

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        • Author by dave_chicago (May 07, 2007 6:22 pm ET)
             

          It is Bush's and his enabler's (Broder, for example) policies that are leading, and will lead, to more deaths---not Harry Reid's.

          You don't agree. Whatever. There's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise. And vice-versa. I don't care to get into it with you.

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          • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 6:25 pm ET)
               

            I wasn't getting into anything with you.....simply pointing out your selective outrage.  If you're outrage stops short of your own Democratic leader funding a war he has declared "lost", that is your choice.

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            • Author by dave_chicago (May 07, 2007 7:32 pm ET)
                 

              "...your selective outrage..."

              Despite the baiting, I'm not getting into a bitter and endless argument with you, Tommy, with all due respect. 

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            • Author by mefirst (May 07, 2007 9:31 pm ET)
                 

              "selective outrage"?  tommy, where's your "outrage" that bush continues to use iraq and 9-11 to attack the patriotism of democrats?   because if they do cut off funding the republicans will say the democrats are placing our troops in harm's way.  the only way is to set a date and leave.  bush will not agree to that.  save your moralizing.

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              • Author by CrescentDrive (May 08, 2007 1:04 am ET)
                   

                I would really like to see a democratic president step in right now and take the reigns.. I really doubt their first move would to bring troops home under any timeframe.. They would be forced to finally look at the bigger picture and all things at stake...

                I may be wrong, but I would love to see the scenario played to prove otherwise..

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                • Author by MHK (May 08, 2007 1:10 am ET)
                     

                  "forced to finally look at the bigger picture and all things at stake"

                  Care to share what you think that might be? 

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                  • Author by CrescentDrive (May 08, 2007 1:52 am ET)
                       

                    well, a safe haven for non-american loving types in control of the worlds 3rd largest oil supply comes to mind.. Last I checked, we are still pretty oil dependent, regardless of what party is in control.. that is not going to change probably even in my lifetime (although I really wish it could)

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        • Author by pete592 (May 07, 2007 6:25 pm ET)
             

          Oops, you've got some missing context.  Remember what that is?  You've beat me over the head with it before. 

          Hey, simple mistake. I'll add it for you:

          And while Harry Reid publicly announces "as long as we follow the President’s path in Iraq, the war is lost.", yet continues to fund it nonetheless, and does not introduce legislation to bring home the troops immediately, instead of letting them languish in a war that is "lost---as long as we follow the President’s path in Iraq". Mr. Reid is a hypocrite.

          I don't know.  It just doesn't seem to ring true now that Reid's quote has the full context.

           

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          • Author by tommy (May 07, 2007 6:27 pm ET)
               

            It most certainly does.  He declared the war "lost", that is a fact......the quotes you include don't change that fact whatsoever.  

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            • Author by worrierking (May 07, 2007 6:39 pm ET)
                 

              Lost or not Tommy, you know as well as anyone that once the box is opened, it takes more than just walking away to put the lid back on.

              The war was lost before we invaded. I'm always bitching about people making sports and movie analogies about war but they got it right in the movie "Wargames". They summed up the thing at the end by saying that the only way to win, is not to play the game.

              Once we have our people in harms way, it's a very complicated issue to remove them. Win, lose or draw, because of the position we've been placed in by our leaders, there is no easy way to leave. But leave we must.

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              • Author by pete592 (May 07, 2007 6:43 pm ET)
                   

                Greetings, Professor Falken.Hello, Joshua.Strange game.The only winning move is not to play.How about a nice game of chess?

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            • Author by nerzog (May 07, 2007 7:00 pm ET)
                 

              Sorry, Tommy;  you're dead wrong here.  The full quote is: "As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course."

              Since the argument over what course to take isn't over yet, then the war isn't lost...yet.  As far as the Dems caving in and funding a lost cause, you have a point, but you know as well as anyone that politically, they have no other choice.  If they cut off the money, they'll be accused of "not funding the troops".  The Right-Leaning Media would crucify them. 

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            • Author by mescal (May 07, 2007 7:39 pm ET)
                 

              Give it up, Pete. It ain't gonna' happen.

              Like Broder, Tommy NEVER admits to error, no matter how much evidence that is presented to him.

               

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              • Author by valentinian (May 07, 2007 8:07 pm ET)
                   

                I'm convinced they're the same guy. You ever seen Broder and Tommy in the same place? I'm just sayin...

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        • Author by jscott (May 07, 2007 8:28 pm ET)
             

          It seems to me that bush (lowercase intentional) just VETOED a bill to start withdrawing troops, AND he managed to VETOE their FUNDING as well.

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          • Author by ChristianDemocrat (May 08, 2007 12:07 pm ET)
               

            Yep, Broder is deceitful or wrong when he states...

            The Democratic-controlled Congress, on the other hand, lacks agreement on any such plan.

            At first, "any such plan" would seem to refer to a plan that keeps out troops in Iraq.  That such a stance would place Democrats on the defensive presupposes that such a plan is desireable.  I.e., it's a fallacious argument.

            If instead Broder meant "any such plan" in a more generic sense, he's simply wrong.  Democrats reached close to unanimous agreement on a plan when they passed the funding bill.  That Bush vetoed it is another matter.

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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 08, 2007 1:07 pm ET)
             

          "And while Harry Reid publicly announces this war is 'lost'"

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          Yes, he announced that the war is "lost" if we continue to follow the failed policies of this Administration.

          You really have such problem with understanding an entire sentence, preferring to bellow about just a phrase, don't you?

          Someday, you may have an attention span that allows you to remember phrases longer than "The war is lost," or questions like "Why is this here?" Until then, maybe you should try to read for comprehension rather than for buttressing ignorance.

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    • Author by teemoney (May 07, 2007 6:37 pm ET)
         

      My favorite activity is reading the WaPo's Comments section after any of Broder's columns.  He gets crushed more than any othe columnist I read on any newspaper/blog by a long shot.  Usually 99.9% negative regarding whatever tripe he has currently written.  Brilliant counter-marketing to increase readership or totally clueless - you make the call!

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (May 08, 2007 12:27 am ET)
         

      That is some "comeback" there David Broder. I guess you have a different idea of what a 28% approval rating means than the rest of us. Talk about living in a dream world......

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