Limbaugh suggested Obama needs Secret Service protection because of "Clinton Inc."
On the May 7 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh defended his "Barack, The Magic Negro" song -- a parody mocking 2008 Democratic presidential hopeful and Sen. Barack Obama (IL) -- and said, in response to reports about the controversy this parody has generated: "If I were to think about Barack Obama being in any trouble -- needing Secret Service -- I would look to Clinton Inc. before I looked at me. Try that, drive-by media. Get that out there."
Limbaugh made specific reference to a May 6 Chicago Tribune article, which reported:
The Rush Limbaugh radio parody "Barack the Magic Negro" is picking up speed on the Internet with lyrics that mock Sen. Barack Obama's popularity with white voters and portray African-American activist Al Sharpton as sputtering with jealousy of the younger black politician.
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Obama's status as the first African-American with a realistic chance of winning the presidency highlights the ambivalent state of racial tolerance in the country: Even as he attracts massive and adulatory crowds, he also inspires hateful remarks and threats that carry distinct racial undertones.
In the past week, for example, the U.S. Secret Service determined that the Illinois senator merited a special security detail and assigned one not only to him but to his house in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood.
[...]
While national surveys suggest the country is willing to elect a qualified black president, the rising tensions so early in the campaign suggest a disquieting side. And the parody by Limbaugh, who boasts a large and loyal following of listeners, reminds that much of the discussion will take place far from the staged debates and campaign events.
[...]
But Limbaugh's critics say the song goes too far and predict that it could influence the pop-culture understanding of Obama and of black politicians in general.
"We take these things seriously because there's a consistent pattern of them making their way into the mainstream media and then the mainstream consciousness," said Karl Frisch, a spokesman for Media Matters, a non-profit media watchdog group that has been monitoring the broadcasts. "It's important to shoot these things down."
The Tribune weblog, The Swamp, also addressed the controversy on May 6, noting, "Limbaugh's critics say the song goes too far -- particularly because the piece is spreading on the Internet at a time when Obama faces heightened security concerns fueled in part by hate speech and threats directed at him."
Additionally, in response to a report by CBS Sacramento-affiliate KOVR, during which anchor Chris Burrours stated, "There are groups this morning saying that not only is the song racist, but it's putting Barack Obama at increased danger," Limbaugh asked: "[C]ould it be that these sponges who do not listen to the program -- obviously found out about this from the Chicago Tribune story yesterday that -- where did they hear about it? Did they hear about it from Media Matters for America?"
Limbaugh's home page currently features a collection of photos of KOVR staff, as well as a photo of Media Matters CEO and President David Brock and cultural critic David Ehrenstein:
As Media Matters originally noted, on his March 19 show, Limbaugh highlighted an op-ed published that day in the Los Angeles Times by Ehrenstein with the headline, "Obama the 'Magic Negro.' " At one point during the show, Limbaugh sang "Barack, the Magic Negro" to the tune of "Puff, the Magic Dragon."
During the May 7 program, Limbaugh also stated that his audience thought the parody "was one of the most creative and funniest they'd ever heard."
From the May 7 broadcast of Premiere Radio Network's The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Stop the tape. Get that back to the top. There is no controversy brewing anywhere except on the air of Channel 13 in Sacramento, and they are creating the controversy. This is an important point. We've been playing this parody since March. It didn't create a ripple in this audience. There was no -- in fact, the votes came in: People thought it was one of the most creative and funniest they'd ever heard.
Now, all of a sudden, there's a controversy over it. I wonder why that would -- could it be that these sponges who do not listen to the program -- obviously found out about this from the Chicago Tribune story yesterday that -- where did they hear about it? Did they hear about it from Media Matters for America?
Do any of these people actually listen -- when I -- if you people haven't done so, you need to go to the website and read the transcript of my "Rush to Excellence" appearance -- and all you drive-by journalists ought to do this, too. Every one of you out there that think you've got something here on "Barack, The Magic Negro," I'm going to try to help you and save you.
You are going to be profoundly embarrassed if you keep going down this tune and going down this path with thinking there's something here that isn't. All you've got to do -- it's called www.rushlimbaugh.com. It's on the internet. You hit the -- you just type that in, hit the return key, and bam.
My website comes up and you can find my remarks, the text of the speech, or anything you want about this song, or what I've said, and you would be fully informed before you start making idiots of yourselves on television.
Here's the byte in total. I'll be tempted to, but I will not interrupt it again.
[begin audio clip]
BURROUS: There is a controversy brewing here this morning, likely will be hitting fever pitch as we go through the day, of Rush Limbaugh's program for years and years, and when he was here in Sacramento, and since he's been national as well, has had parodies of people -- song parodies -- a lot of them pretty funny, but there's one out there that he's airing on his show about Barack Obama some are calling racist.
There are groups this morning saying that not only is the song racist, but it's putting Barack Obama at increased danger. You know, of course, last week we reported that he has gotten Secret Service protection -- the earliest for any presidential candidate. Is Rush Limbaugh's "Barack, The Magic Negro" song racist? What do you think? Vote online at CBS13.com.
He's had a lot of parody songs, Lisa and Jeff, some funnier and less sensitive than this one.
LISA GONZALES (anchor): I want to hear from Rush. I want to know why they made this song.
BURROUS: He has --
JEFF JAMES (AM meteorologist): He ought to know better. Once he starts to even go near that line, you know? It's never a good idea.
BURROUS: Kind of a timing -- post-Imus here. A bit much, some are thinking.
GONZALES: Can we call, Rush?
BURROUS: Exactly. Go dial him up. Limbaugh doesn't make up the songs himself. This guy named Paul Shanklin, he pays him to play them and make them up.
[end audio clip]
LIMBAUGH: "To play them and make them up." Now, where do you start with this? These are people hosting a local news show in Sacramento, on a television station, the CBS -- if what? What do you want -- the -- look, about -- OK. Snerdly's upset because they're trying to blame me now for Obama getting the Secret Service, but they're all going to get Secret Service protection in due course.
Yeah, I'll tell you what: If I were to think about Barack Obama being in any trouble -- needing Secret Service -- I would look to Clinton Inc. before I looked at me. Try that, drive-by media. Get that out there.
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["Barack the Magic Negro" lyrics]
SHANKLIN (Sharpton impersonator): Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.
See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!
[refrain] Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean."
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in --
'Cause -- 'cause I won't have nothing after all these years of sacrifice
And I won't get justice. This is about justice. This isn't about me, it's about justice.
It's about buffet. I don't have no buffet and there won't be any church contributions,
And there'll be no cash in the collection plate.
There ain't gonna be no cash money, no walkin' around money, no phoning money.
Now, Barack going to come in here and --
now is this him "baiting" mmfa again?
Only in his racist world. Everywhere else it's just racism. He hates t-i-double-guh-er, he do!
And I'm STILL waiting for Limbaugh to come clean about his arrest in Pittsburgh in the Early '70s in the company of a male prostitute while he was working as a DJ under the name "Jeff Christie".
(I know Rush or someone in his organization monitor MMFA, and I will continue to post this until he responds on the air.)
I've heard you mention that twice now. Is this really true, can you post a link?
Here's the info from one site:
I've seen this "Rush and the male prostitute story" before. It's out there in cyberspace. Just Google it.
You have got to be kidding! If there was a shred of truth about this, the money and incentive for individuals to come out would be huge. The guys at NAMBLA would be quivering with excitement at the prospect! I love that fact though that the site linked in your insipid posting was described as a 'parody'. How mean spirited of you!
Great for some chuckles anyway.
I'm sure that when the day comes that Rush admits to this, your little conservative pinhead would explode.
He seems to be blaming people for getting the song wrong, and getting a little emotional about it. True artists are always abused and suffer for their art.(Choke!)
See what drug use does to you. A week late and completely wrong about the reason. And the bad thing here is the mass dissemination of something proven wrong to begin with.
"There are groups this morning saying that not only is the song racist, but it's putting Barack Obama at increased danger,"
Well I'd never heard the term "Magic Negro" until I read the Los Angeles Times column by Ehrenstein [an African-American]who referred to Obama that way.
I truly doubt this parody is putting Obama at risk. And Rush's quip about Clinton Inc. is a joke for heavens sakes. Does anyone really believe that Limbaugh is suggesting that there's a real danger here?
a parody mocking 2008 Democratic presidential hopeful and Sen. Barack Obama (IL)
The "Justice Brothers" parody about Sharpton & Jackson is very very funny [I think Liberals might even chuckle]...this one [Magic Negro] is in bad taste, though I'd say it's mocking Sharpton rather than Obama.
is that like his little "joke" about the clintons murdering vince foster?
He's really just all about bad comedy. Limpaugh's funniest parody is when he plays Limpaugh. The rest is just excruciatingly lame. Instead of paying amateurs like this Shanklin guy to write his lame drivel, Limpaugh would be better off to hire JJ and HBL to write him some limericks.
my point is that his "joke" about how obama needs protection from the clintons is meant to enforce his contention that they are totally ruthless, capable of anything.
Nah, Limpaugh is good at what he does, but he's not that conniving. I've listened to him on occasion for quite a while, and that's his idea of one of those audience-endearing jokes. I'll give Rush some credit: when he wants to make a point, he'll hammer on it with "facts" (air quotes implied) for 3 hours straight. Never mind that those "facts" are largely assumptions or hypotheticals.
You have to remember who the Limpaugh audience is. They could never catch anything as subtle as a quick mention or nuanced comment. As wiilling as they are, misinformation needs a good relentless pounding to make it's way into their minds.
I think this was just another of Limpaughs attempts at snide humor based on the fantasies of his listeners.
What about the clip of Obama himself laughing about it and mentioning Limbaugh was having fun and being an entertainer on a radio program.. Funny thing is, if Obama doesn't want to hear it, he doesn't listen.. or whine... or cry..
I guess the 35 or so "regular" left overs on hear will have something empowering to add to that fact..
I can't wait..
We all know that it Obama reacted in any other way he would be attacked by the media for being weak.
Limbaugh is in all likelihood at the very least a rascist in denial. His history would lead anyone with a little bit o sense to that conclusion. His act is getting old and hopefully it backfires n him one day.
So Obama was fuming inside and didn't say what he really felt, because of what people might think of him?... hmmm, signs of a great leader.. Actually, I give him more credit than that... His reaction sounded pretty sincere to me..
What does it matter how Obama reacted to Limbaugh's antics? This is about Limbaugh's behavior, not Obama's. Obama could say that he thinks Limbaugh is the greatest human being who ever lived, and it still wouldn't make what Limbaugh did any better.
The only joke around here is misguided people trying to defend that scumbag Rush Limbaugh.
Rush's quip about Clinton Inc. is a joke for heavens sakes
I was away over the weekend so I come to this late and probably too late for notice, but I still feel obliged to say this:
I am sick to death of the "it was only a joke" excuse.
"It was only a joke" is not some goddam verbal "Get Out of Jail Free" card.
Limbaugh clearly implied and clearly meant to imply that Hillary Clinton is capable of anything up to and including murder to get the nomination. That may indeed be some endearing little aside as far as his mouth-breathing fans are concerned, but then again so, undoubtedly, was "nappy-headed hos" to a different set of devoted listeners.
Limbaugh has said it himself: Words have meanings. And they do, or at least should have, consequences.
How much hillbilly heroin do have to pound down that fat gut of yours Rush to cook up this paranoid load of horse balls?
Rush needs to keep his racist "jokes" to himself. They're not funny. Period. Just because a black man says it doesn't mean its ok for him to say it - ESPECIALLY RUSH because of his history of racists comments.
It shouldn't be OK for anyone to say it. If we are going to bill ourselves as a country of equals, then derogatory names should either be wrong for all or wrong for none. It's a foolish and divisive cop-out to excuse any person or group from responsibility in this way (especially in this day and age of internet anonymity). Take a stand and don't excuse bad behavior on the base of race, class, gender, et cetera.
Disgusting racist.
"Limbaugh also stated that his audience thought the parody "was one of the most creative and funniest they'd ever heard."
I don't doubt it one bit.
And I can just hear his audience saying, "Oh, lighten up... all this dam political correctness... it's just a 'joke'!"
Ha ha.
The problem with this stuff is that it legitamizes, perpetuates, and enbales the closeted racism, of which there unfortunately is still too much of.
Instead of, as they say, being part of a solution to our country's problem with race, Limbaugh is part of the problem.
Every time Limbaugh plays this song, and every time his audience laughs at its "creativity" and hilarity, we as a nation fail to take a step forward.
bingo, "not a step forward". Please don't forget, there are still "folks" who long for the days when a black man hanging from a mossy oak was considered a fine occaision to have a family picnic. Two hanging was officially a day off from skool.
I heard the broadcast, Rush was clearly joking about the Clinton Inc comment.. you guys are so serious !
You mean like how Ann Coulter was "just joking" about having someone poison a Supreme Court Justice?
There, you're catching on. Because we all know only a real dumbass would think she was being all serious and stuff. Ann is crude and her humor is dark, but it's still humor.
You're wrong. Coulter says the things she says to energize the conservative base - just like Rush does. That's not humor - it's calculated phrases designed to spread hate.
And the dittoheads eat it up.
There you go. Rush's listeners will believe everything he tells them. Poor dears.
Only a hillbilly missing two front teeth married to his sister, two cars in the front yard on cinder blocks in front of that lovely trailer with a flag pole flying that half tattered, 48 star stars and stripes would buy into limbo's garbage. I'm just amazed that there are 13 million of em in America...
Wouldn't that be the folks you all are trying to uplift and educate.. Rather harsh words from a fellow American about another fellow American.. I guess sterotyping is above racism.. Of course whatever you decide I'm sure is the way of the righteous... Get over yourself or move to a country that you don't hate so much..
Oh, I'm sorry. You not a fan of turn about is fair play?
Whatever your definition of fair play is.. I'm not asking for it, please..
I heard the Obama segment and knew folks on here would be spouting there normal paranoid rants about subliminal radio and whaddaya know..
Snoopy was joking. Don't come here and defend jokey Limbaugh then call snoop out for making jokes.
Snoopy's cool.. Just so YOU say it is a joke, I guess you're okay too..
You slipped one in on Crescentdrive! It went for the bait.
"It didn't create a ripple in this audience."
Yep. That's right. And that tells us the terrible truth about the dittoheads.
"We take these things seriously because there's a consistent pattern of them making their way into the mainstream media and then the mainstream consciousness," said Karl Frisch, a spokesman for Media Matters, a non-profit media watchdog group that has been monitoring the broadcasts.
Huh?... then lets post it on our web-site for all to see..
Snoopie,
Thanks for making a definitively non-bigoted comment. Your open mindedness regarding what you know little of is underwhelming.
And Holly,
It didn't create a ripple, because the intelligent people listening, knew it was parody..containing information put forth by Joe Biden (a Clean and articulate candidate! No that's not racist) and Erhestein pointing out that Liberal guilt could be assuaged by supporting blackness, not the man and therby making Rev. Al make his comments about Obama not being black enough. It's liberals who focus on skin color and not the content of a man's character.
unless of course, character works in their favor... that one is yet to be seen..
Wow, let's see if I can figger this one out. Next presidential election, the Dem's are running the gamut of race, sex and color not because of sex, race, or color but because we want the best candidate and are willing to look beyond all that to see substance. Republicans are running 10 pasty white guys - 9 who claim to be christian conservatives, and one who is a mormon (and darn near gauranteed to loose because he ain't the right religion) and you are the big tent party who looks beyond skin color?
Please, if you live in texas, share that crack pipe.
there you go again.. "pasty white guys?".. I guess that makes them racists in it's own right.. the libs are trying though, you are correct there.. embrace the masses, my brother..
Charles Schulz should return from the grave and smite you right between the eyes for your screen name..
When I see you on a savage thread denouncing him for calling liberals Nazi's (or any other thread where righty's slander liberals in "jest") you can come on here spouting what till now passes for fake indignation. Until then, I'm playing the turn about is fair play card, and anything you say? Whatever. I'm joking...
Honestly, I don't get the whole "nazi" theme myself.. Personally I feel it is disrespectful to our soldiers who gave their souls to rid our nation and the world of that evil..
I still say Schulz would be insulted by your view on your country..
Then you admit he would be equally disdainful of the views of the right?
I'm kinda guessing that since the peanuts were based upon his life, he was more liberal than conservative.
Well, I dunno... I like Snoopy more than politics, I guess.. Used to get lots of female attention drawing him in my younger days.. Things were simpler then..
There is that then. I used to love snoopy to the point that I had a Joe Cool sweatshirt. But that was oh so many decades ago. That snoop, quite a dreamer...
Common ground is good ground.. I will leave it at that.. I retract my Charles Schulz statement.. Be good..
You too. looking forward to your next posts. Stay around!
Your right. We should take all our race relations advice from a man who told a black caller to go put the bone back in his nose. That was Rush, right? Or was it Beck? Damn, it's getting so hard to keep my racists straight.
Until there is an MMFA hit radio show, I guess we'll have to deal with it.. or turn it off..
I very confused by your comment. Are you saying that if you have a radio show you can spout racism or are you saying that people do not have a right to comment about racism unless they have a radio program?
Crescent...MMFA must be a hit with you...you stick around. And that is a good thing.
MHK,
I just find it a little strange that there is not an equally as popular radio program hosted by the left agenda.. You deifnition of racism I will not argue with..
Prince,
You folks are thought provoking, I will give you that... thanks for welcome..
"It's liberals who focus on skin color and not the content of a man's character."
In other words, Limbaugh, with his "Magic Negro" "joke", wasn't focusing on skin color at all whatsoever.
Where would anyone get that idea?!
Limbaugh certainly didn't mean to make fun of anyone's ethnicity, or their manner of speech.
Perish the thought.
And Limbaugh's little parody had absolutely nothing to do with questioning anyone's character.
Anyone who says otherwise must be a "liberal" who "focuses" on skin color. These "liberals" never care about a man's character.
Look at the whole quote and context of the comments I made. Yes, he did discuss color and race that parodied exactly what the lefties said about Obama. Had they not brought up Obama's 'cleanliness' in presentation, ie Joe Biden, Al Sharpton's temper tantrum of about the authentic 'blackness' of Obama and the editorial from a liberal that described liberal white guilt being assuaged by the 'magic negro', then the parody would never had been made.
The parody demonstrates the hypocrisy of the left who claim color-blindness but emphasize this first and thus denegrate the competency of the individual. Look at the awful slander done by the left via media, cartooning and political comment of Secretaries Rice and Powell and Justice Thomas. They choose hate in these instances politically because of color first, character and acheivement second.
I think it's cool that RushLimbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and others have become so obsessed with Media Matters. How many ordinary people do you think there are who occasionally tune in to these guys just to disagree with the outrageous things they say? (I do...) And how many of those people are now hearing more and more about MMFA and checking out this site just to see what it's all about? (I'm a fairly recent participant here... and I checked out MMFA after seeing and hearing it mentioned a few times in different venues.) Certainly there are some right wingers who come here to disagree but the more "normal' people who visit the site will see that, although it leans left, it basically just accurately prints what the pundits say. I find the articles enlightening and I'm sure many new visitors will as well. The more people who see the Rush Limbaughs, the Bill O'Reillys, the Sean Hannitys, the Michael Savages, etc., stc., etc. exposed by their own words the better. The right wing conservatives are floundering because you can only lie for so long before people catch on. If recent political polls are any indication, there is a growing dissatisfaction with the right wing among Americans... so don't you think that more and more of them will begin to abandon the lying mouthpieces for the right wing. I give it about a year and I'd bet you're going to see the vaunted ratings of Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly (particularly O'Reilly) begin to flatten out and decline. I'd bet the Limbaughs and O'Reillysare worried, now especially since the Don Imus affair and they have to be careful of alienating their sponsors. What goes up must come down... and I think we're watching the prelude to a ratings tumble among these right wing talkers. They are obviously worried about MMFA. And their pattern is to attack what concerns them,like Hillary Clinton, for example.
I just wonder of Limbaugh and O'Reilly actually read the posts here or of they rely solely on staffers. Regardless, the free publicity they're giving MMFA is wonderful.
"I just wonder of Limbaugh and O'Reilly actually read the posts here or of they rely solely on staffers. Regardless, the free publicity they're giving MMFA is wonderful."
Actually your response shows that the left never digs for the truth.
Now please, don't go spouting off at the keyboard about "Clinton, Inc." because to do so would solidify the fact that every one of you who has mentioned (or has not been offended by) the term "BushCo" are absolute hypocrites.
Next point, stop with the "he's a racist, O'reilly's a racist, Imus is a racist" garbage because it just isn't so, my friends.
P.S. For the casual reader of MMFA, the sniveling will begin with the next reply, and true bigotry and intolerance will be exposed.
Thanks for clearing that up... I was beginning to think my family, friends, mailman, chocolate lab, etc. were all racists.. Whew, they almost had me..
See? There you go. It has to be a "chocolate" lab. Or "yellow" lab. Or "black" lab. Can't just be a lab, can it?
I think I've made my point...
I figured "lab", by itself made no sense (for some).. I guess I could have used "dog", but I am partial to his breed.. As far as color, he can't help it, he was bored that way.. and maybe had different color parents for all I know... Sure man, pick on my dog, that is waaayy below the belt..
Hey, I didn't pick on your dog. You're the one who singled him out just because of his color. Like he should get a break or something because he's a minority shade.
No, I think he should be treated as equal to any other dog.
Except for the Irish setters. We don't need their kind running around here...
Strangly enough, he had an Irish Setter neighbor buddy that would lure him off into the countyside causing all kinds of trouble.. Got real tired of picking them both up, sometimes miles away.. the setter got a transfer due to his owners lack of patience..
Stay cool..
I have to agree about the Irish Setters. My ancestors left Ireland and came to America to escape them several generations ago. They are indeed an evil bunch.
But their evil pales in comparison to the Wire Fox Terrier. Mine is giving me a strange look as she reads my words on the screen. I've got to keep my eye on her.
You can't trust those "pure" breeds.
That was Irish "SETTERS", not "SETTLERS"...
But I'm beginning to see how this fits in with Limpaugh. Donovan "MC"nabb? Hmmm...
Why does rush hate the Emerald Isle?
An excerpt from the American Kennel Club description of the Labrador retriever breed.....
ColorThe Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling. Black--Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification. Yellow--Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog. Chocolate--Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification.
So, a small white spot on the chest is permissable, but not desirable? Bunch of "RACISTS". There's IRONY for you. But what do they know anyway, they are the AMERICAN Kennel Club. Why even make the distinction? Why can't they JUST be "The Kennel Club"?
Anyway, I'm sorry, what exactly was your point again?
Hey, crescentdrive, high five!!
too funny... thanks for the laugh... I'm glad to hear his gray hairs are acceptable.. at least until we "hard-core" righties kill his pension plan..
"So, a small white spot on the chest is permissable, but not desirable? Bunch of "RACISTS"."
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I just had to read that stupidity again. Please tell me you don't think that hair color and skin color are comparable.
Oh, I just read it again. You probably do.
And that's a joke. Or is it?
Can't let this one go unanswered!
"waah wah wah, wah wah wah waah"Thank you, Snoopy, for being so accomodating.....whoooosssaaagooodbooyy?
"Next point, stop with the "he's a racist..."
You're right... I think "antagonistic, pathological liar" is a more descriptive term.
Therefore, he differs from any given politician.............how?
Rush Limbaugh bills himself as a font of wisdom and truth... not as a politician.
"Rush Limbaugh bills himself as a font of wisdom and truth... not as a politician."
I know, because those are 2 ENTIRELY different things!!
(This is too easy.)
Yeah... EASY to refute wingnuts LIKE YOU.
Thanks for the shout out, DTrain...
You got us all figured out.
BushCo is used to to define the Bush/Cheney/Corporate/"Christian " elements of our society. A connection that is apparent to anyone who's been paying attention for the last 6 years.
You're probably too young to make the connection. But Limbaugh's use of Clinton, Inc. brings up connections between the Vince Foster suicide and the infamous Murder, Inc. of the 1930's and 40's.
Whoa, there, little fella. That's all perception. YOU brought up Vince Foster. Didn't hear Rush say it in the clip.
That's because you're deaf to subtext.
Wingies can't do nuance.
Rush is the voice to racist idiots everywhere. How can he deny that this song is not racist. The exuse that there was an article in the LA Times that says the same thing doesn't make any sense. Language is about context, the context of Rush's song is very offensive. The song makes no sense to me anyway. Can any one explain how that song is funny.
Is it just just me or does Limbaugh's photo on the front page make him look like a man of color?? Come on MMFA, what are you doing here?
He is a man of color. High-blood-pressure red, I think they call it.
"High-blood-pressure red..."
And maybe a little Palm Beach sun tan, too. Wonder how many Magic Negro members there are at his club...
And a touch of pilonidal-cyst brown for good measure, with a streak of yellow down his back.
You guys need to calibrate the colors on your monitors... Wow..
I think Rush is back on the smack!
What makes you think he ever stopped?
Irony:
MM is a viable web site feeding off the success of conservative talk radio. It would be pointless to have a comparable web site for a liberal talk show because there aren't any worth listening to.
MM should be grateful they have a format which allows them to appoint themselves as a "watchdog". In addition, it allows its followers a place to agree or disagree.
I only hope posters to MM aren't so gullible to think that EVERYTHING that appears on this thread is factual and truthful. You should give some slack as there isn't a publication in America that is 100% absolutely flawless.
The action on live radio and TV does get fast and furious at times and mistakes are going to be made. Will conservative talk radio put themselves out of business? No, I think Congress will when they pass the "Fairness Doctrine".
Let there be no mistake about it. MM and the MSM would like it much more if there were NO dissent to their opinions. They would just love it if Fox News also went off the air. If there is one thing the Left would like to do, it is to totally control all speech and suppress any opposing ideas. The only ideas they really want circulated are theirs.
That would be O.K. if they had any good ideas, but the ones lately they have been talking about seem to be quite senseless: surrender in Iraq? What's with the, "Hate crime" if someone should say something that makes another person feel bad? Are you sure you really want that stuff?
Many on this thread don't have difficulty calling others racists, but if GW Bush doesn't veto the bill when it reaches his desk, you just might be on the receiving end in as much as the thoughts expressed on these posts can also be construed to be racist.
Whatever goes around, comes around.
Sonny, your common sense comments are commendable, but everyone knows more laws makes us a better society... I thank the higher-power formally know as God (I think it is some symbol now or something for left-wing christians) for people like the folks on here for pointing out my mis-guided beliefs...
Man, I need to go to sleep.. Sorry
Thank goodness there are simple folks like you and Sonny pushing to have Gods laws running the country and not mans laws - especially that constitution thing. What do YOU want to follow? Laws on a piece of paper made up by men or the BIBLE, written by GOD?
Whatever satifies your soul, my brother.. go with the flow... woo hoo..
Bravo, Sonny, standing ovation. Careful, though, too much common sense makes the 101st Keyboard Battalion attack relentlessly. Nothing p*sses them off more than someone who actually makes sense.
"Nothing p*sses them off more than someone who actually makes sense."
Who's p1ssed...? Maybe you're projecting again.
"Nothing p*sses them off more than someone who actually makes sense."
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That must be why I'm so calm and un-pissed off when I read posts written by ignorant wingnuts like yourselves.
If I had to choose between the 101st keyboard batallion and the remington raiders, count me in as part of the fighting 101st.
The 101st keyboard battalion are nothing more than a bunch of whining sanctimonious self righteous blowhards. You'll fit right in Snoop Dawg.
"The 101st keyboard battalion are nothing more than a bunch of whining sanctimonious self righteous blowhards."
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So we have to salute you as the leader now?
naw, he's a remington raider. Only a knuckle dragger would be more comfortable with a typewriter than a terminal.
"Knuckle-Dragger"? RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!!! Snoopy should be banned for life! Wow, I feel like a liberal now. Gotta go puke a little!!
"The only ideas they really want circulated are theirs."
Well, Sonny, you've just accurately described FOX News...
At least the so-called MSM tries to cover most newsworthy stories. I've seen FOX ignore stories not consistent with their views as though an event never occurred. Personally, I like to hear different coverges and different points of view, so long as the facts are reported accurately or are not distorted. I've seen enough news and political coverage to know that FOX should just drop the pretext of being a legitimate news source. They're just the mouthpiece for the far right. I believe most in the MSM take their work seriously and at least try to present both sides, if even implicitly, and to avoid the appearance of bias. That's what a legitimate journalist should do. I see articles here fairly regularly in which someone like, say Wolf Blitzer or someone else on CNN, just for example, is taken to task for not taking advantage of an opportunity to rip a conservative when he could do it with the facts. But often I get the impression that the person, like Blitzer is simply trying to avoid the appearance of bias.
As for commentators, that's a little different. Keith Olbermann demonstrates what you would consider a left-leaning bias... but he's smart and he also present facts well, often through his guests or a reporter. But I know what I'm getting when I watch KO.... and it's not the six o'clock news. But KO can be informative nevertheless. Bill O;Reilly, on the other hand, calls himself a journalist. What a joke! He's a right wing commentator, just like Rush Limbaugh. O'Reilly is no journalist. He often says things without any factual basis. Even though I disagree with O'Reilly's point of view I would admit it it if he was at least reliably informative.
As for Media Matters, I thik this site provides a great service by pointing out misinformation, inconsistencies and outright lies. Otherwise, it would be hard to keep up with all the crap that comes out of the right wing propaganda machine. What's funny is that the right wing "media" does exactly what you accuse others of doing... but worse.
Such nonsense, portrayed in a lucid, well-written way. The boys back at headquarters must have decided that they needed a counterattack that didn't sound quite so stupid, biased and offensive, and so they sent Sonny out here early this morning!
The reason there's not a website which fairly attacks liberal talk radio or liberal misinformation in the media is because it's not the liberal's pattern, like it is on the right. Everyone can make a mistake, and every group has some outliers who say outlandish things, but the conservative media has an epidemic of blatant misinformation, unlike the left. the rightwingers way of winning over the masses is by deceiving them about their own motives and by distorting the motives of their opponents! Sonny gives us great examples of that in his own post!
I have never seen any liberal say "surrender in Iraq" as Sonny claims they have said. Liberals have many good ideas. It's Bush who has had, indisputably, many bad ideas. Invading Iraq when the weapons inspectors had the facts that proved our intelligence wrong is just one blatant example.
It's not the Democrats in Congress who demand fidelity from all their members on every issue. It's the Republicans who conspired to almost never send anything to Bush he didn't want to sign. It's the Republicans who demanded that all the K St lobbyists show fealty to them. For Sonny to claim that it's Media Matters, the MSM, and liberals in general who want to stifle debate is laughable. What liberals and Media Matters wants is to discontinue the misinformation, not the expression of opinion, and if we cannot stop it, we'll point it out. Is Sonny in favor of misinformation? Of lies? Is it okay for the public to be misinformed, Sonny, if we call it someone's opinion? No one should be able to point out that misinformation if they call it their opinion?
Almost everything in Sonny's post is back-assward. It's like the thing my momma told me years ago. When you point your finger at a person, you have 3 more pointing back at you.
Rush is wholly responsible for what he says. Even if someone else said it first, it does not make it less of a slur or a put-down when it then comes from Rush's lips.
Thanks, this was the funniest post I have seen in a long time. Oh wait, were you serious?
Since in All likely hood you won't bother to respond to this. Fatty said a little ways down on this thread:
"I love that conservatives on this thread are claiming "the intelligent people in Limbaugh's audience" know he's satirizing the Left.
Actually, what Limbaugh is doing distorting Ehrenstein's words. If you were as smart as you claim to be, you would have read his column yourself. Ehrenstein didn't say Sharpton and Snoop were authentic, he said they were "authentic". He put it in quotes because he was criticizing people who gauge blackness that way.
Since Limbaugh knows his audience doesn't read, he wasn't afraid that anyone would actually pick up the column themselves and notice that Ehrenstein is making the same argument about racial authenticity that Limbaugh is claiming to make. In fact, he even laments the fact that people question his "authenticity" several times a day.
[link to www.latimes.com] on and keep talking about how "smart" you are. This parody is an excuse to use a pejorative term for African Americans in reference to a prominent black Democrat, nothing less. And none of you actually read the article, not because you're smart, but because you want the satisfaction of putting a black man back in his place.
- fatty / Tuesday May 8, 2007 05:53:13 AM EST "
Monkey,
I did read the article when it was first spoofed by Rush. Nice try with the 'quotaion marks', but indeed he was referring to the liberals who commented about blackness and white guilt. The term Magic Negro was not Rush's invention, it was clearly defined as a sort of (pardon the qotation marks) 'the great black hope' for liberal politics.
The neo-leftists would rather avoid looking at the character of the person, because color matters first and 'correct' politics shortly thereafter. Clarence Paige gets it, why can't you?
"MM is a viable web site feeding off the success of conservative talk radio. It would be pointless to have a comparable web site for a liberal talk show because there aren't any worth listening to."
Your rambling, pious diatribe against Media Matters begins with --surprise!-- false information. In the first sentence. Then it proceeds further downhill from there.
Contrary to what you assert, there is, in fact, a "comparable" (in terms of subject matter---definitely not accuracy) web site, Media Research Center, "feeding off" what it terms the "liberal" media. Talk shows, news shows, any shows.
Obviously they deem this so-called "liberal" media "successful" enough to be "worth listening to".
Sonny:
The sad thing is you just trotted out the Right Wing Talking Points, one by one, while thinking you were enlightening us. We've heard all of these before:"The Democrats have no ideas." An oldie but goody.
"The Left wants to shut down Right Wing radio and television."
"Democrats love surrendering to enemies and letting them win. They adore terrorists and hate America."The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of Americans are horrified with what has happened to our country under Bush. We are dismayed by the propaganda disguised as news that has permeated our society.
We'd like nothing better for our government and our media to start telling the truth. We do not enjoy having to monitor the media. We do not like watching, reading, or listening to "news" or commentary and then having to diligently research the issue until we find the real truth. It is frightening and disturbing to us. The media is supposed to be the watchdog of the government, not blind supporters. We'd much prefer not needing a site like Media Matters. But we do. So we will support MM until it's no longer necessary.
Parody, huh? Bimbaugh's just catering to his 'Affirmative Action is the reason I'm still po white trash' audience. And they eat it up. This is the group produces conservative crazies like Tim Mcveigh, and bimbaugh knows it.
I recall when Fairness and Accuracy, FAIR, researched Limbaugh's comments and proved beyone a shadow of a doubt Limbaugh is a racist.
Name one racist comment uttered by Rush Limbaugh.
"Take the bone out of your nose" - Limbaugh
"That was easy" - Staples Button
"Take the bone out of your nose" -
You beat me to it... ;>)
Limbaugh's racism is usually expressed in a slyly implicit, rather than an overt, way. He's not that dumb or unsphisticated to call someone a dumb (N-word), for example. Rather, Linbaugh reinforces racial stereotypes by projecting racism, in some twisted Limbaughish logic, on others, such as liberals. Meanwhile, as he's doing that he's repreating the stereotype over and over while not refuting it. Basically, he's convincing his audience that liberals are just as racist as they are, but liberals get away with it.
Take the Donovan McNabb incident. Limbaugh said McNabb got a free pass by the white liberal sports media (who knew?) because McNabb was black. Well, there's that old racist stereotype that blacks are too dumb to play quarterback in the NFL. So Rush implies that white sportswriters, out of liberal guilt, have to give McNabb a free pass because in reality he really isn't smart enough to play quarterback in the NFL. The white liberal sportswriters are protecting McNabb because of McNabb's racial deficiency is what Limbaugh implies. But all the while Limbaugh never praises black NFL quarterbacks. Hmmm... All he says is that liberals must believe the stereotype and out of liberal guilt they attempt to compensate for their own racism. Get it? In effect, Limbaugh keeps implicitly reinforcing the stereotype by accusing liberals of subscribing to the racist stereotype. But he never refutes the stereotype...
BTW, at first I thought McNabb would never make it in the NFL, but I watched him develop into a damn good quarterback. McNabb's problem has not been his race, it's that he's been frequently injured the past few years. Otherwise McNabb may have been a great one.
See, not one mention of a truly "racist" statement. My point exactly.
Take the bone out your nose isn't a racist statement? Please elaborate.
It's more of a quip than a statement.
See? Easily debunked.
You'll have to wait to find out what qualifies as "racist" in the LimpaughLexicon. Here's a hint: It's a dynamic definition.
"Take the bone out of your nose" is not a racist statement any more than "Clean the crap out of your ears", "Wake up and smell the coffee", or "You're cordially invited to join us in what we like to call the 21st century".
Do you think you can accurately define racism? Give it a try. Turn your eyes and do it now................................Your're wrong. I'd bet on it.
Racism. n. 1. A belief in the inherent, genetic superiority of one race of people over another and a belief in the right of the superior group to dominate that racial group believed to be inferior.
The key to any legitimate definition of racism is that the alleged racist person believes that he is genetically superior to another group of people.
You can dislike someone, or some group, without feeling that you are inherently or genetically superior to them. You can distrust them, fear them, scorn them, avoid them, tell nasty jokes about them, even HATE them, all without adopting a belief in your supposed genetic superiority......all without fitting the definition of racist.
So, why is this so important?
If you want solutions, first identify the problem!
Agreed, when Rush said "Take the bone out of your nose", it was rude, ignorant, spiteful and immature. But "racist"? No, sorry, doesn't fly. Because if that were the case, then every black comedian that tells "cracker" jokes should be branded as racists and removed from the public eye. Fairness and equality, right? It goes both ways.
Err, you're a bit off-base there.
"Take the bone out of your nose" is not only racist (referring to the oft-publicized image of African Tribesmen), but also insulting to the intelligence as well (implying that the person was not "civilized," thus having the attributes of a tribesman who does not interact with the normal "civilized" world, with the usual implication that a person is uneducated and/or ignorant). Now, I can't read Mr. Limbaugh's mind, but I can clearly see the very short route it takes to being insulting.
Incidentally, I would agree that every black comedian that tells "cracker" jokes should then be classified as telling racist jokes. You can't have a double-standard, regardless of race, gender, etc.
So instead of using a deflection, "... then every black comedian ...," be honest and forthright. Don't point a finger and claim it's ok because the other kids are doing it.
Wait, oft-publicized images of African-tribesman?? Where? Are there giant billboards with images of Kenyan villagers all around your town? What about some links, articles, something to back that statement up...........something.
You're making my point for me. Rush implied that the man was uncivilized, ignorant, and uneducated. News flash....I'm a conservative who posts on a far-left website. I get called those very things on a daily basis!! In my case, would you call Solon, Dtrain, Huntingtonbeachlefty and nerzog "racists". NO! And why? Because without being armed with the knowledge of our skin color in this forum (i.e. a truly "colorblind" environment), these attacks are manifested as merely assaults on my character, NOT an expression of an inherent genetic superiorty.
The "Bone in the nose" comment"...............hateful, asinine, ignorant.......YES.
Racist..........not by a long shot.
Not a racist statement, sorry.
Just because you assert it, does not make it true.
In fact, just about everything you assert isn't true. It's nice to know you're consistent, even if it is consistently ignorant.
Agreed, and the world isn't round, sorry.
I love that conservatives on this thread are claiming "the intelligent people in Limbaugh's audience" know he's satirizing the Left.
Actually, what Limbaugh is doing distorting Ehrenstein's words. If you were as smart as you claim to be, you would have read his column yourself. Ehrenstein didn't say Sharpton and Snoop were authentic, he said they were "authentic". He put it in quotes because he was criticizing people who gauge blackness that way.
Since Limbaugh knows his audience doesn't read, he wasn't afraid that anyone would actually pick up the column themselves and notice that Ehrenstein is making the same argument about racial authenticity that Limbaugh is claiming to make. In fact, he even laments the fact that people question his "authenticity" several times a day.
[link to www.latimes.com] on and keep talking about how "smart" you are. This parody is an excuse to use a pejorative term for African Americans in reference to a prominent black Democrat, nothing less. And none of you actually read the article, not because you're smart, but because you want the satisfaction of putting a black man back in his place.
Fatty, you nailed it pretty good...
Thank you Fatty well said.
i think I may have misjudged your stance on race relations.... I'm sorry Fatty.
"If I were to think about Barack Obama being in any trouble -- needing Secret Service -- I would look to Clinton Inc. before I looked at me. Try that, drive-by media. Get that out there."
Valid point. Many more people associated with the Clintons have died under mysterious circumstances than those associated with Limbaugh.
And, of course, nothing Limbaugh has said abot Obama is on the same level of David Brock saying Anita Hill was "a little bit nutty, a little bit sl*tty."
"But Blinded by the Right offers plenty of evidence that for Brock, lying has been a lifelong habit."
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2063759
What's you point and how does this link relate to anything on this thread?
I think what Kevin is trying to say is "hey look over there"
The point is that you moonbats are being duped by David Brock and MMFA and you're too stupid to realize it.
I love it when those thoroughly besotted by wingnut Kool-Aid accuse others of being duped.
I read that Kool-Aid increases one's gullibility.
Ehrenstein and the LA Times trumpet a headline that calls Obama a "magic negro".
Joe Biden calls Obama "clean and articulate".
Al Sharpton says Obama may not be black enough because he hasn't grown up with or participated in the black struggles.
Limbaugh does a parody about these positions.
It's clear to me who is most concerned about the color of a candidates skin...and it ain't Limbaugh.
If anything, it paints Limpaugh as more prejudiced than anything else.
Why would he assume that "clean" meant anything other than without scandal? Why would he assume that "articulate" meant anything other than a good public speaker? Why would Obama "not being black enough" be anything other than a reference to his ability to relate to black people who are not upper or middle class?
Could it be because he has preconceived notions of what black people really are? And they don't appear to indicate a favorable prejudice, either.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson called Biden's comment highly suggestive and inappropriate.
Al Sharpton criticized Biden's comments because of the reflection on other blacks.
Sharpton is the one to bring up the race issue with Obama.
Ehrenstein and the LATimes bring up the race issue about Obama's blackness...and are the authors of "magic negro".
Limbaugh's parody is funny...and serves to highlight the people who are raising the issue of race with Obama.
"The Rev. Jesse Jackson called Biden's comment highly suggestive and inappropriate."
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"The Rev. Jesse Jackson speaks only for The Rev. Jesse Jackson and no one else. It is funny, however, that you give weight to his opinions only when they agree with yours.
"Al Sharpton criticized Biden's comments because of the reflection on other blacks."
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Al Sharpton is a publicity hound, who also speaks only for Al Sharpton (funny how you don't refer to him as "The Rev. Al Sharpton," even though he is a pastor just as "The Rev. Jesse Jackson" is) .
"Sharpton is the one to bring up the race issue with Obama."
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I don't think so. Obama was black long before Sharpton had ever heard of him.
"Ehrenstein and the LATimes bring up the race issue about Obama's blackness...and are the authors of 'magic negro'."
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Again, not true. The concept of the "Magic Negro" in Hollywood and in literature goes back a long way. Recent examples have been films The Green Mile and, IIRC, The Shawshank Redemption. Neither Ehrenstein nor the LA Times created the term.
So, again you are 100% wrong. Way to keep the streak alive.
Thanks for the help...you highlighted and expressed the issue correctly.
Sharpton and Jackson criticized Biden's remarks...Sharpton plays the race card...LAT's trumpets Obama as a magic negro.
Well done...
You are incapable of reading for comprehension, aren't you?
I think the kindergarten kid you are paying to read and explain MMfA to you isn't doing a very good job.
You didn't read the column that contained the phrase "magic negro", so your comments regarding it are not credible.
And since when are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton your voices of virtue? Only when it's convenient?
- since when are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton your voices of virtue?
- Why would he assume that "clean" meant anything other than without scandal?
Beautiful...you've answered your own question.
???
So, how do you like our planet? Have you tried the oxygen? I would highly recommend it.
Wesley:
Good points. Unfortunately, you cannot reason with these moonbats. Consider this: 35% of Democrats believe Bush knew about 9/11 in advance. See http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance
We have a major political party in which at least a third of its members are mentally ill. That's why they are so easily manipulated by David Brock and MMFA.
You're right. Bush couldn't have possibly have known about 9/11 in advance since he couldn't be bothered to read the reports that would've told him about it.
So if liberals are "moonbats" does that make conservatives "sundoves" or something? Do we get to invent words to call our enemies when logic fails us?
"it ain't Limbaugh"
Let's see.... the only person trumpeting a "Negro" tune sung in an unflattering "Negro" dialect is the right-winger's champion, Mr. Rush Limbaugh.
Limbaugh's song of course has nothing at all to do with skin color or "Negros" or denigrating blacks. I can't imagine where anybody would get that idea.
"Limbaugh does a parody about these positions."
One other thing:
Limbaugh's ditty is not a parody about "the positions" of Sharpton, the LA Times or Biden.
The song is, primarily, a very unflattering mockery of Sharpton's manner of speech. Which we know is something all dittoheads take great delight in laughing at, and have many a hearty chuckle over.
After all, his fans-by Limbaugh's own admission-say it is one of the funniest things they ever heard.
Secondarily, the song is another in a continuing series of Limbaugh's attempts to denigrate and diminish Democrats--in this case, Obama, and chip-away at Obama's popularity for purely strategic and political reasons, on behalf -if not the behest- of the Republican party.
It is definitely not to be dismissed as a "joke".
I am a conservative but like Obama way more than Hillary. If it was Obama vs McCain I would vote for Obama - if I could vote - I'm Canadian and living in America so can't vote.
I find Rush funny at times, I find Beck more funny. I know I might be childish but I find it funny when Beck says stuff like twice divorced Kucinich can't even get the fatties anymore. Or that Nancy Pelosi is holding a bill and stroking it saying "My Precious, My Precious".. This is just comedy.
Let me help break this parody down:
Is the parody attempting to make fun of barrak - No
Is it attempting to make fun of a black canidates or black canidates in general -No
It it attempting to make fun of Al Sharpton -Yes
Is it making fun of him based on race -No
Is it making fun of him based on his giant ego - Yes
Is it doing so using his own sentiments, and sentiments of black people in the media - Yes
Is it making fun of the absurd egos within the supposed "civil rights movement" - Yes
You see it's funny because Al Sharpton and people like him (i.e. The LA times authors from which the term "barak the magic negro" origniated) got jealous of Barak's instant popularity. Al Sharpton was mad that Barak had the spotlight. Further, some columnists were mad that Barak got the instant support simiply because of his skin color when he had not been around for the "struggle" that other black leaders have expierienced.
Just because a subject touches race doesn't make it racist. The point of this parody was to point out the ego of Sharpton and make fun of him, NOT Barak, NOT the civil rights movment, and NOT blacks in general.
Still not sound funny? It's because I had to break this parody down piece by piece. This is the same effect as when someone tells you a joke the right way, or when someone breaks down every contextul piece and then arrives at the punchline which isn't so funny.
It's just amazing to me that Colbert, Stewart and the like can say what they want about any group on the right and its all fun and games, but god forbid Limbaugh make fun of people on the left. Instead of listening to the tune and investigasting the real context, you just assume racism. Ah, vintage "enlightened" left.
----"...the supposed "civil rights movement"----
I really don't find it all that surprising that a person who thinks the civil rights struggle is some kind of unsubstantiated rumor would find Limbaugh's song the most "creative" and "funny" thing ever.
And it's a real insult to a non-dittohead's (in other words, a thinking person's) intelligence to be told that this "supposed" "joke" is somehow not about blacks, black dialect, or cutting-down Obama and Sharpton.
Ok MMFA friends ... I will confess I find Rush, at times, humorous. However, as evidenced by my occasional participation here, I do read and consider all points of the political spectrum.
One of the show hosts on CBS 13 touted this as another flap in the "post-Imus" world. But this parody came out BEFORE the Imus flap. Further, the stations "teases" to this story seemed to hope for a growing "Rush Controversy" re the parody ... etc.
I'm not saying what Rush did was necessarily in good taste, or contributes positively to the debate, but who here doesn't see this as a lame morning show trying to "invent" a controversy? And am sure the CBS bubbas (ahem, the network home to Dan's forged Bush Nat'l Guard docs) were undoubtedly crossing their fingers and toes and hoping for an Imus-like controversy to finally "get" Rush.
Why wasn't this ever presented as the "LA Times controversry" because they used the term in their op-ed? Why weren't Biden's comments on Obama's "freshness" and "cleanness" and being "articulate," or even further, Harry Reid's past comments on what an embarassment that Judge Clarence Thomas's opinions were, etc ... why weren't these ever given the same news coverage and poll opportunities by the station?
Semper equal time.
AFJ
NY Times did some monitoring of the radio after the Imus affair and found some interesting speech. One radio station called Kim Basingers last acting role that of a "old tampon". Another station said of NJ governor corzine:
“Poolside b*tchcs ... with big leaves to fan the governor down after exhausting physical therapy, maybe a little massage.”
Some other host did the following ( from ny times ):
"He then proceeded to refer to someone in the studio who was apparently of Colombian descent as “a drug dealer,” before using an exercise in the manual as a springboard to the following observations: that “enough” Native Americans drank to make them fair game for a joke; that waiters in Chinese restaurants were “efficient” and “better than most, you know, other ethnic groups as waiters and waitresses”; and that Jewish mothers were “bad cooks and a little hairy.”
So lots of stuff is going on here but seems people dont care except when political points can be gained.
There was plenty of news coverage of Biden's dumb statement and Biden had to do penance by appearing on several news and talk shows to apologize.
As has been explained by an earlier poster, Limbaugh used the LA Times column out of context (see comment on the quoted use of "authentic").
Don't any of you Limbaugh apologists recall that Limbaugh got fired (as an NFL commentator) for his singling out of a black quarterback.. that he was (basically) not that good because he was an affirmative-action quarterback?
It is sad to read the petty word-splitting going on by the Rush-trolls. The guy is hypocritical (drug users should go to prison), informed by partisanship (global warming is a liberal hoax) and frequently uses slurs (feminazis, etc.) against those he doesn't like.
Some earlier Troll said that Democrats want to "control the airwaves" by putting Fox and Limbaugh and others off the air by passing a Fairness Doctrine (which, incidentally, was okay for 50 years until the Reagan dereg craze).
So, please tell me, trolls, exactly HOW would a Fairness Doctrine shut up Rush or OReilly, or Boortz, or any of the other nasty right-wing talking heads?
FACT: The Fairness Doctrine NEVER required "equal time" for dissenting opinions. Rush could still lie and foam for 3 hours. The station would be required to give consideration to alternative views. But never equal time (try reading the rule before blowing crap!)
FACT: The Fairness Doctrine NEVER required broadcasters to provide specific groups with an opportunity to response. The stations were given leeway as to who they gave opportunities for alternative views.
LIKELIHOOD: Restoration of the Fairness Doctrine just might help a little in bringing back a modicum of fairness and civility to our society. Some people (rightwingers, mainly) like to listen to angry speech to confirm their own biases. Not a very enlightening way of living.
Obama was asked about the parody and said that Rush was entertainment and it didn't bother him. If Obama doesn't care why should anybody else ?
Do you really think he wasn't offended? Perhaps he wasn't. But I think it's far more likely that he was but, as a savvy politician, didn't want to sully himself by being pulled into a war of words with the likes of Rush Limbaugh. He is rising above it.
You are using his good manners as an excuse to enjoy a racist song.
---"I'm not saying what Rush did was necessarily in good taste, or contributes positively to the debate, but who here doesn't see this as a lame morning show trying to "invent" a controversy?"---
Shorter "Jarhead":
Look over there at the Bad Things CBS, Harry Reid, Biden, & the LA Times are doing; pay no attention to Limbaugh, whom I'll refrain from critiquing.
Hey, if it is okay for Snerdly, it is okay for me.
Wow! Rush Limbaugh rocks. He is successful because everything he says and does is exactly what every other non-black or non-latino feels. It's a breath of fresh air to know Rush is untouchable by Media Matters, Sharpton, Jackson et. al. I heard Imus is already in negotiations with Sirius now too. MMFA stinks.
i am just curious what the issue is here? limbaugh had shanklin make a song correctly quoting a bunch of liberals (look at the "is obama black enough" chapter of the encyclopedia written by the left) and now somehow limbaugh is racist?
Limbaugh made a parody reflecting how racist liberals are paying more attention to obamas color than the issues he speaks of.
If you want to know what limbaugh said, go look at his site instead of quoting wikipedia like cbs 13 has!!!
and yes, clinton inc is more threatening than limbaugh.
Only to morons.
Hi, Fellow Americans.
If anyone's wondering who the hell the 28% of Americans are that STILL support Chimpy McFlightsuit, the answer is: they are all the angry trolls who lurk on blogsites like this.
VIVA BUSH! VIVA CHIMPY! IMPEACH CHIMPY!
Don't tell Rush & Co. but they are the best advocates of something different.
Bimbaugh's audience consists mostly of whites that never 'got ahead'. This plays right into their to 'blame everything but themselves' for their problems. Personal responsibility is one of the cornerstones of the conservative philosophy. How far have they strayed?
A kovr/kmax reporter was suspended days after the Limbaugh incident.
http://cbs13.com/video/?id=20424@kovr.dayport.com