Hannity hyped baseless GOP allegations against Pelosi concerning waterfront project
On the May 8 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while discussing baseless Republican accusations that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) included a provision in the Water Resources Development Act of 2007 that benefits property owned by her husband, Paul Pelosi, co-host Sean Hannity asserted: "[T]he Pelosi camp says she added the provision at the city's request and that her husband's holdings had nothing to do with it." But it is not just "Pelosi's camp" saying that Pelosi added the provision at the city's request -- Port of San Francisco officials reportedly confirmed it hours before Hannity & Colmes aired.
As Media Matters for America has noted, blogger and media critic Greg Sargent reported on the afternoon of May 8 that Port of San Francisco officials said they specifically requested the improvements included in Pelosi's earmark. In his post, Sargent quoted Brad Benson, "the special project manager of the Port of San Francisco," saying:
The port initiated these requests. They came entirely from the city and county of San Francisco. [The requests] were generated at the staff level. The port initiated our request through the city and county of San Francisco. Our requests were funneled through the mayor's office on up to Speaker Pelosi's office...If anyone is claiming that Pelosi initiated these requests in some way, that's completely false.
Later in the program, Dan Gerstein, who worked for the re-election campaign of Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-CT), observed that Paul Pelosi's property is "more than a mile away from the project" and that Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, admitted that he didn't have "any facts" to back up the accusation of wrongdoing. When co-host Alan Colmes asked whether there is evidence to suggest Pelosi's husband will benefit from the project, Hannity replied, "Yes," but then offered no evidence that was audible, even as Colmes pressed him to cite this "evidence."
As Media Matters noted, a May 7 Associated Press article reported that "Republicans are accusing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of including a provision in a water redevelopment bill that could benefit property her husband owns in San Francisco," but the article also noted that Republicans have "offered no evidence" to support the accusation -- raising the question of why the AP thought the article worth writing at all.
From the May 8 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, which also featured right-wing pundit Ann Coulter:
HANNITY: Nancy Pelosi may have gotten herself into some bad business. Republicans are now accusing her of backing a San Francisco redevelopment port project that could have benefited some of her husband's multimillion-dollar rental properties that are nearby. Now, the Pelosi camp says she added the provision at the city's request and that her husband's holdings had nothing to do with it and that Republican accusations are speculative at best.
Joining us now, author of the number-one New York Times bestseller Godless, Ann Coulter is with us. Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein is with us.
Let me ask you a question. I don't care who asked her to do this. But if she's going to be involved -- because she did lecture us during the last election how she would be the most ethical person -- if she is going to be involved in putting money that would benefit her husband in any way, shape, manner, or form, isn't there, at the minimum, an appearance of impropriety and possible corruption? And shouldn't she have known better?
GERSTEIN: Not at all. I mean, Sean, first, as a general rule, people who live in glass houses built by [disgraced lobbyist] Jack Abramoff should not be throwing ethical stones at other people.
HANNITY: Stop with your liberal clichés. I asked you about Nancy Pelosi.
GERSTEIN: First of all, House Republicans have no credibility to lob any kind of ethics charges.
HANNITY: Listen, please, please. Stop with the talking points. I'm asking you --
GERSTEIN: It's not the talking points. That's an important point. It's a credibility issue.
HANNITY: You've given me your liberal clichés. I asked you if she --
GERSTEIN: I will get to it if you let me finish.
HANNITY: -- is giving money to a project that would benefit her husband.
GERSTEIN: Absolutely not.
HANNITY: No? OK.
GERSTEIN: This is a pathetic excuse for a fishing expedition. The Republican guy who lobbed the accusations, Representative Hensarling, even said, "I don't have facts to show that there was no wrongdoing." Even he acknowledges. I mean, like the Republicans are now taking George Bush's incompetence to whole new levels. They can't even run a smear campaign right.
HANNITY: You know what? You're a walking talking point. You've got to think out of the box here.
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HANNITY: I have a question for you. And, again, no talking points. When Nancy Pelosi had to load up the supplemental appropriations bill for the funding of the troops, and she literally had to buy the votes of other congressmen to get that bill passed. Can you just admit and be intellectually honest and say there's something fundamentally wrong about buying votes when our troops' bullets, supplies, and armor are at stake?
GERSTEIN: Well, first, I want to respond to what you asked about in terms of the specific instance. I'll answer the question but -- there's no evidence -- Sean, just wait. There's no evidence that this is going to benefit her husband's developments. It's more than a mile away from the project. It was done at the --
HANNITY: Hey, Dan, if you want to answer your own questions, I'm going to ask you to get --
COLMES: By the way, it's my turn to speak now. On the supplemental bill, if they had planned this war properly in the first place, you wouldn't need all these supplemental emergency spending bills and provide for body armor and training for troops after they've already been there four years. However --
COULTER: Wait, Alan, what are you talking about? What's the question here?
COLMES: Something very important is what I'm talking about, which happens to be the well-being of our troops. But do you have any evidence whatsoever -- talk about talking points -- the talking points that everything Nancy Pelosi does is somehow corrupt, according to Republicans. Do you have any evidence that her husband benefits in any way from her --
HANNITY: Yes.
COLMES: What evidence is there, since you would like to answer for Ann Coulter? What evidence is there?
COULTER: First of all, I do want --
COLMES: No, Sean would like to answer the question. What is the evidence?
COULTER: I do want to point out --
COLMES: All right, let him throw his voice into your body now.
COULTER: -- that you guys chose the subject and invited me on, so you can't accuse me --
COLMES: So tell me what the evidence is.
COULTER: -- of using talking points when I've said nothing about this until you invite me on tonight.
COLMES: Tell me what the evidence is that she's benefiting or that her husband's benefiting financially.
COULTER: Because he does have rental properties there. I mean, he's not the only person --
COLMES: A mile and a half away.
COULTER: Wait! I'm trying to answer, and you interrupt. It benefits everyone in the San Francisco area, as opposed to single mothers working for Wal-Mart in the rest of the country. This is --
COLMES: No, the charge is that it benefits Paul Pelosi.
COULTER: Can you explain how it is that the federal government is supposed to be building ports in San Francisco? Why is that? You're the Democrat.
COLMES: Because the ports -- because steamers and ships come in, and they bring cargo from around the globe, and it's a federal issue.
COULTER: So they need to beautify it. Oh, and they also --
COLMES: The charge, Ann, is that Paul Pelosi is benefiting. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that that's the case?
COULTER: No, the charge is that her constituents are benefiting, including Paul.
GERSTEIN: No, that's not the charge.
COLMES: No, that's not the charge. Conservatives are charging --
HANNITY: -- property values.
COULTER: And, moreover, it's not like this has come out of nowhere. I mean, she has nonunion help. She supports illegal immigrants coming in.
COLMES: You're totally changing the subject from Paul Pelosi, which is what the charge is.
COULTER: No. No, I'm not changing the subject, if you'll let me finish.
HANNITY: If you let her answer, she's answering.
COLMES: Answer about Paul Pelosi. Where does he benefit?
COULTER: This isn't coming out of a vacuum. It is coming from Paul Pelosi and his wife using the federal government in order to benefit their personal interests, which is, as I was trying to say before you interrupted me, because you definitely don't want this coming out, that is to say they employ nonunion labor, they encourage illegal immigrants to come to this country, but, curiously enough, she opposes --
COLMES: What does this have to do with this port issue? You're totally changing the subject.

















Hey AUTOPSYCHIC. we're still waiting for you to crawl back out from under that beating you took this morning.
I'm sure that it was just random genetic chance that Hannity turned out to so closely resemble Lou Costello.
Difference is, Lou only pretended he was an idiot.
Which part of Lou does he resemble - the back end?
Lou Costello is spinning in his grave after being compared to that low-life Sean Hanity.
perhaps that's why pelosi "requested" that big ol plane that could fly all the way to california without stopping. maybe that pier is big enough to land on.
Not "requested", Mefirst - "DEMANDED"!
(BTW, I don't know if you saw my reply the other day. I commented on your movie review, and I guess it came off like I was being an A-hole, when I was actually liking it. Sorry it didn't translate well )
no problem
Now I know why I don't have cable.
Big surprise...?
When have facts ever kept Sean Hannity from lying? He is one of the absolute worst when it comes to twisting or distorting facts, or just outright lying, when it comes to gratuitously bashing a Democrat. What surprises me the most about this episode, though, is that Hannity didn't say that Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats are not supporting our brave troops in Iraq who are scarificing their lives to protect our freedom in America. He enjoys saying things like that often regardless what the topic of discussion really is about. Hannity knows no shame when it comes to gratuitously bashing Democrats. If every Democrat fell off the face of the earth tomorrow Hannity would be out of a job.
Irony, we have certaintly had our differences in past threads but I will commend you on your characterization of Hannity. Well said.
Ann Coulter is back in the saddle?
It's clear that her brain is addled
she changes the point
like she's smoking a joint
Proving that her mind is rattled.
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
I love the sound of Neo-Con Mouthpieces making pointless comments of corruption that make them sound as desparate as they so obviously are!
Nancy Pelosi has passed the legislation she promised on the campaign trail in the first 100 hrs, she has pushed the administration out into the world of diplomacy by example, she has put the withdrawl of troops on the table stay!
I would say Speaker Pelosi has proven herself a brilliant legislator, politician, and leader that can take the empty accusations from the desparate/pathetic and comeback swinging!
So, Ann & Sean make it up if you must, you make yourself more, and more irrelevant by the day!!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
.....Is it just me, or was Colmes showing some spine?
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
It's just you!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
Me too - I thought it was great. He beat the crap out of crazy Annie!
Is it me or its kinda slow with the posts today? Where is everyone?
Coulter seems to be having a meltdown contest with BilldO. I saw this segment, and her head was bobbing and jerking in relation to how bad she was lying and losing. She looked more like a malnourished chicken than usual with that beak bouncing around.
Almost forgot, my favorite Hannity line, even better than the clumsy loaded questions;
HANNITY: You know what? You're a walking talking point. You've got to think out of the box here.
Hannity saying this to anyone in the world- is that nervy or just plain oblivious?
In the midst of all the Republican malfeasance charges and convictions, poor Hannity is left to dream up charges against Demcrats to make it look equal. This Republican group makes Tamminy Hall look angelic. I have been a moderate Republican for many years. I have not left my party, it has left me.
It is such folks as Hannity and his side-kicks, such as Ann C.who seem to have no moral rudder about truth speaking and who make it impossible to respect the news machine that tries to represent the Republican party. But on the other hand, if all the news shows your favorites tanking, it is no surprise you try to tar the other party. It simply is not going to work. Pelosi gets higher approval rating than Bush and Cheney together. And the Democratid legislature is well thought of also. Must break their hearts.
So, Hannity believes that this deal smells fishy and Colmes believes otherwise. So what? Use your own brain and believe what you want. That was the whole point of the segment. God, people, analyze the information and make up your own mind. The truth, whatever it may be, WILL come out eventually.
believe what you want
Now there is a true conservative. Believe what you want. Don't believe facts, don't believe logic, don't believe the truth, believe what you want to believe.
The truth ... WILL come out
The truth already has come out. But people like Hannity and Coulter refuse to accept it because it contradicts what they want to believe. And that is the point.
OK, here's a good one for you then.
Do you believe that President George Bush stole the 2000 election?
Evidence of a stolen election;
Evidence that there's anything improper about the Pelosi port matter:
Things don't have to be proven in court to believe them. I believe OJ's guilty of murder, for instance. If there was evidence of wrongdoing here, then it's fair to think there's wrongdoing. Otherwise, you have to want to believe it in order to do so.
HE didn't have to steal it, it was given to him.
As LARRYE wrote earlier,
"Now there is a true conservative. Believe what you want. Don't believe facts, don't believe logic, don't believe the truth, believe what you want to believe."
See, works both ways, doesn't it?
Do you believe the economy is in good shape right now?
The stock market is high, Rich men are getting richer, More people have jobs at walmart. These thing are true.
The economy being in good shape, not true. THe economy now is like a healthy 30 year old with a tumor at the base of his brain growing at a rapid rate. That tumors gonna get him eventually unless some brilliant surgeon can et in there make tings right.
We paid for a war on credit and the Real estate market will sting a little more. The dollar is at an all time low and our trade deficit/national debt is rediculous. I think economy is artifiacially sweetened by people in power who don't want folks to panic.
WOW... Great analogy about the economy.
Except I have horrendous "web spelling" I should learn to preview.
It's definitely a matter of perspective. If you are in the top 1% of wage earners, things are spectacular due to a robust stock market, large wage increases and bonuses. Even the top 5% see a rosey economic picture. This group has seen consistent wage increases for years. For the average Joe, not so much. Their wages have stagnated or declined while the cost of living has risen. One of the most telling statistics is that there is a negative savings rate in this country for the first time since the Great Depression.
Take a look at these charts and tell me if you believe you may be talking out yer @ss. I sure do...
Orange Juice:
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=OJU7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
Gold:
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=GCQ7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
U.S. Dollar:
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=DXU7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
Crude Oil:
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=CLU7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
Do you believe that Exxon Mobil is making OBSCENE profits?
I believe you are a troll trying to change the subject AGAIN.
I believe you're right.
Historically, and overall, OH YEAH. Record Profits. No Doubt. DON'T LET THE PROFIT PER DOLLAR AMOUNT FOOL U. The main reason for high gas prices is REFINING CAPACITY lagging DEMAND. AND WITHOUT HEAVY TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES no oil company would be profitable. EVERYBODY benefits in this case, but oil companies must now reinvest some of the profits into expanding (or importing cheap) refining capacity.
Since you've bought the Big Oil propaganda hook, line, and sinker, there's a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in purchasing.
And some lovely swampland in Florida.....
The big oil propoganda line? Just what is that oh great oil baron?
All the crapola in your above post.
I think we are on the same page here D-Train but I disagree with you on why gas prices are high. They are high due to futures trading. The supply and demand stuff is a smoke and mirrors diversion given to us by Bush, Opec, and the oil companies. OPEC is producing at an all time high. Barrel prices are determined by futures traders who undoubtedly are beholden to the oil companies and OPEC. What happens is these guys bid up the price of a barrel of oil and the costs are streamlined down to the stores. These futures traders are essentially makig big oil and probably Bush a ton of money. They are doing on the backs of the American people during a time of war. Now, alot of times those on the far right are quick to accuse people of treason for dissent against this war. That is unbelievable. It is my belief that what these oil companies are doing durng a time of war is one of the most treasonous things that this country has ever seen. You sure don't hear Hannity, rush, Boortz, or any of those other freaks talking about this.
Refined and crude-oil supply are 2 different things. As is crude oil prices and gas (refined crude oil) prices. But they are related. Lack of investments in expanding the refining capacity is a factor. Future's stock trading, insider trading, record CEO compensation are all contributors as well.
Agreed with the whole treasonous schtick Achrispage.
Well I agree with you that all are factors. My premise is that all oil and gas prices are determined by futures markets and trading. It is the speculators, who invariably work for the big oil companies, who buy and sell and ultimately set the price of a gallon of gasoline. Refining capacity has not really changed in many years and our demand despite increasing has not increased to the point that the demand sets the price that we now see. I would point out to you that in 2000 the supply and demand is fairly equal to that of the present as was the refining capacity. the only difference is that the oil speculators did not bid up the price for a barrel of oil to the amounts we see now. Therefore gas was much cheaper then. I can't argue with you though on the need for greater refining capacity. It would certaintly make a difference at the pump. I'm oly saying that the greed of the speculators is the primary factor in the unbelievable gas prices we see now.
Your right, refining capacity is NOT the main factor of the ever increasing gas prices. I should have said 1 of the factors.
Whenever I see people talking about why gas prices are high I like to supply this neat little link. Here's a telling line from it:
Price increases generally occur when the world crude-oil market tightens and lowers inventories. We will discuss who controls the crude-oil market later. Also, growing demand can sometimes outpace refinery capacity. In the spring, refineries perform maintenance, which can place a pinch on the gasoline market. By the end of May, refineries are usually back to full capacity.
But you both should take the time to read it, it is quite informative. You'll find that you both are partially right...
http://money.howstuffworks.com/gas-price.htm
Yeah I have read that before. That is a great site by the way. I think one thing they leave out is that supply is at an all time high. Refinery issues certaintly do cause price fluctuations but I refuse to believe that gas is hovering around $3.00 per gallon becasue of supply and demand issues, especially when the big oil companies continue to make record profits on the backs of hard working Americans. Simple economic theory will tell you that.
Agreed, there are clearly political and pricing issues as well. Like that nifty little note about 11% of the cost includes marketing. Why do I have to pay their marketing fees every time I fill up?
Snoopy, you pay for their marketing costs for the exact same reason that you pay their record income tax remittance every time you fill up...............because they are corporations, dolt!! Every dollar they take in is voluntarily handed to them by consumers......YOU and all the rest of us.
Or is it that you, wait.....how did you put it?
"Believe what you want. Don't believe facts, don't believe logic, don't believe the truth, believe what you want to believe."
Careful, Larrye, you may really be a (gasp!) conservative!
Only AFTER the lobotomy
It's not about what they believe.
The truth is already out there.
Too bad you have such litle regard for the truth, and such a distant relationship with reality.
Sidebar to this discussion: In the comments at the Greg Sargent post linked above, someone provided a link to the blog of the Republican Study Committee (the House conservative caucus), which had several posts about the Pelosi story, suggesting we could "join the party."
I did so and and noted here that by the very House rule the RSC was quoting, Pelosi was not in violation since it referred to a financial interest in the benchmark, that is, in the project itself, not to any theoretical benefit that could be indirectly derived by some other interest.
I also noted that the RSC's reading would make it almost impossible for any member of the House to introduce legislation benefitting any project in their district, since they would almost inevitably derive some indirect benefit somehow, just by being a resident. (Much as Coulter tried to do in this case.)
Interestingly, my comment never appeared.
In looking back at that, I realize the first paragraph is clumsily written. To clarify, it was the commenter at Greg Sargent's site, not the RSC, that proposed we "join the party," i.e., the discussion there about Nancy Pelosi.
Either way, the point is that to have a conflict of interest, a rep would have to benefit directly (and there's probably a "uniquely" component implied in there, too) from any actions they take which are made possible by their position in office.
Are they advocating that representatives have to abstain from any activity which could benefit their constituency? Maybe they're implying the need for a new form of representative democracy where a districts representatives will be required to live somewhere outside the district they represent.
NOW we're talking entertainment. James Inhofe could represent New Yorks 15th congressional district, and Rangel could represent Kansas' 1st, and Hillary could have...
You guys have nailed it. Coulter was shamelessly trying to say that anything which benefits the constituency would be in violation, since the Pelosi's reside in that county, and would therefore benefit as well. It's about as lame an argument as I've heard from that harpie. Such a rule would require that no Representative could own property in his/her district. It's asinine on its face.
This is a perfect example of how the Right Wing Lie machine works; they got away with it in the 90s...maybe they won't now, since we're watching a little more closely.
Well now, hang on for a minute. Maybe not asinine as we think.
Imagine that we vote for our congressman, then he goes to washington where they have a "congressional draft" session. Only one round, where each congressman goes up to the podium and picks one slip of paper with the name of a district on it out of a hat. That becomes the district he represents. (Do-overs if they happen to pick the district in which they live). Once all 400-and-some-odd congressmen have selected, congress convenes normally. They would do this each calendar year. It could be part of the congressional Christmas party - I mean "holiday" party.
It doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Less familiarity with lobbyists, no more bridges to remote Alaskan islands nor highways past remote Pennsylvania subdivisions, or port improvements. No more reason for redistricting. But for sure, THE DRAFT!!! Now THAT'S supporting the troops!
Maybe the conservatives finally have something.
Certainly worth considering.
Sorry to be so blunt, but I'd argue that since by definition it means that you would not be choosing who represented you in Congress but that such person would be chosen in effect at random, the idea should be deep-sixed as clearly contrary to the principle of representative government.
HANNITY: You know what? You're a walking talking point. You've got to think out of the box here.
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Amazing. Every time I think that Hannity can't go any farther down the road of self-parody, he sprints ahead another few yards. Pelosi is corrupt because she has pushed a bill that benefits her husband because "all constituents" will benefit from rising "property values." Brilliant!
I'm surprised he hasn't accused Pelosi of the corruption and unethical use of her power in Congress to push forward her secret agenda to represent the will of the people of her district.
Hannity is a prime example of baseless politcal pandering.
From the perspective of this conservative...he has no credibility. He is simply a shameless cheerleader and I don't need him in my foxhole.
THere have been sporadic outbreaks of "common ground" on these boards lately. Twilight Zonish indeed.
finally, wes critisizes on his side!!! The heavens are falling NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Wesley may be stubborn and he is definitly conservative but I have seen him criticise his side before when he thinks they are wrong.
Coulter: "It benefits everyone in the San Francisco area, as opposed to single mothers working for Wal-Mart in the rest of the country"
Besides ignoring the fact that this port is a vital part of the infrastructure, a federally funded infrastructure that protects and empowers the creation of wealth, what is she getting at here?
Is she saying that WalMart has their products from China shipped to New York, perhaps? She's unhinged, totally unhinged.
And Sean, 'Stop Using Talking Points', Hannity give me a break! What is 'buying votes,' if not a Republican talking point?
Anyway, Ann and Sean know this is a weak attempt to cross-contaminate the Dems with toxic Republican waste. That is why they could not let anyone else finish a sentence; they need to control the dialogue in order to create their own private reality.
If Hannity spent more time researching this story-instead of letting Fox News employees do it for him-he would know this. But this lazy media hack just wants to look pretty before the cameras.
It gets tiring hearing this man whine and b*&%# about the Democrats five days a week. We get tired of hearing this garbage.
No wonder people quit Fox News Channel.