Limbaugh complained Democrats are not asked why "there are no women and minorities on stage"
Referring to the May 15 Republican presidential debate, Rush Limbaugh asserted, on the May 16 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, that "there's a template developing for the Republican debate last night. 'How come there are no women and minorities on stage?' I guess you forgot about 2004." He then said: "And I guess -- you know, the Democrats never get those kinds of questions because it's always assumed that they're fair and just, and not discriminatory and all that."
During the debate, co-moderator Chris Wallace, host of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday, directed the following question to former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore:
WALLACE: Governor Gilmore, let me start with you. It's been suggested that the 10 of you could all be members of the same country club. What does it say about the Republican Party? And you used to be the chairman of this party and tried to build the tent -- to build the base. What does it say that there is no woman, no Hispanic, no African- American, no minority in this field of presidential candidates?
Presumably, debate moderators would not ask Democratic presidential candidates why "there are no women and minorities" on stage because the Democratic field currently contains two minority candidates, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who is Latino, and Sen. Barack Obama (IL), who is African-American, as well as a woman, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY).
In 2004, the field of candidates for the Democratic nomination included two African-Americans, one of them a woman, former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (IL), and Rev. Al Sharpton. President Bush was not opposed by any major candidate in the Republican primaries of 2004.
From the May 16 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Now that is a joke those of us in the media tell because that is a template. Well, lo and behold, here's a story from CNN -- and all these drive-bys are the same -- and it's a story about a poll: "Local Governments Ready for Disaster, Feds Not." This is a perfect example of how lazy journalists use a poll for a story rather than actually doing reporting.
And here's the opening paragraph: "Most people say their families and local emergency agencies are ready for the next natural disaster, but the federal government is not. Women and minorities are less confident on both counts."
I kid you not -- "[w]omen and minorities." Hardest hit: women. You can count on it in every -- just like there's a template developing for the Republican debate last night. "How come there are no women and minorities on stage?" I guess you forgot about 2004. And I guess -- you know, the Democrats never get those kinds of questions because it's always assumed that they're fair and just, and not discriminatory and all that.
But, anyway, this story -- I guess it's too hard to investigate the government is actually ready for another disaster? This is an AP story -- but it's ran [sic] on CNN -- reports on yet another stupid poll by another stupid news organization, which actually shows nothing but how stupid the public is in believing everything the drive-by media says.
We've got a poll of the American -- why would you believe a poll of uninformed or ignorant people? What does it matter that a majority of Americans don't think the federal government's ready? Why not go ask the FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Agency] people? They're the ones who would have to mobilize. So, we're to conclude, "Oh my gosh, the government's not ready! A majority of people don't think so. They must know something I don't." It's just trash -- absolute trash journalism.
Also, in the latter part of the story, Democrats were also less confident than Republicans that their families, local emergency agencies in Washington were ready for a disaster. So? Who cares? We know that Democrats are idiots anyway on most things.
From the May 15 Fox News 9 p.m. ET broadcast of the Republican presidential debate:
WALLACE: Thank you. I've got a couple of final questions, and I then I know [Fox News host] Wendell [Goler] does as well.
Governor Gilmore, let me start with you. It's been suggested that the 10 of you could all be members of the same country club. What does it say about the Republican Party? And you used to be the chairman of this party and tried to build the tent -- to build the base. What does it say that there is no woman, no Hispanic, no African- American, no minority in this field of presidential candidates?
GILMORE: You know, Chris, as national chairman of the party, I worked very hard with the rest of the party to reach out in the Hispanic community, reach out in the African-American community. I made appropriate appointments. As governor of Virginia, I did the same thing. I brought people together and brought people in.
As a person who has a record with the African-American community when I was the attorney general of the state -- there were church burnings that were going on all across the South -- I stepped up with my fellow attorney generals and spoke out against that, and it stopped. As the governor of Virginia, I favored the African-American universities in order to draw people together.
WALLACE: Governor, if I may -- because we're running out of time -- I'd like to ask you if you'd answer the question, which is: Does it bother you that, as you sit here and we see the 10 candidates on the stage, there is not a single minority running for president in your party?
GILMORE: Listen, there will be people from our party who are in the minority who will be candidates, and we have people that are prepared to do that in the immediate future.
But the fact of the matter is that the people of the United States have got to judge the people who in fact have stood up and decided to run, have put themselves into the arena. And they have to judge it on the way of the record, Chris.
I mean, I recognize that I shook things up here a little bit. But the fact is, the people of the United States deserve to know where people really stand, and the only way to do that is to examine the record.
Rush, once again, is lost in a cloud of Oxycontin-dumbness. The Dems HAVE a woman and minority candidates. Or don't Hillary and Obama and Richards count?
Randy
Richardson. I was too anxious to be first and misspelled his name. Haste makes waste, and addendums
Randy
Your haste allowed you to be first and second!
Hillary doesn't count to Rush because she's got more balls than he ever will. Obama doesn't count to Rush because he's only halfrican. And Rush is desperately hoping that Richardson gets deported somehow.
This is possibly the least valid complaint anyone anywhere has ever made.
How come no one ever asks; 'Why isn't the sky blue?; Why does ice cream taste so bad?; Why don't trees have leaves>; or Why are Republicans such good leaders?'
"why would you believe a poll of uninformed or ignorant people?"
No, Rush never sites polls of uninformed or ignorant people to bolster his points, does he?
That should be "cites".
As usual, Rush is living in his own planet, Uranus. I suppose his listeners actually believe this misinformatiuon and vote accordingly.
Actually WOLF they dicovered a new planet where Rush prevails. The name is UPHISOWNANUS...newly discovered. And would you believe that the new place has over 1 million visitors daily.
"...reports on yet another stupid poll by another stupid news organization, which actually shows nothing but how stupid the public is in believing everything the drive-by media says."
Kind of an elitist attitude, don't you think?
Sounds elitist to me. But I thought us Libs were the elite.
Wasn't it just a month or two ago that Rush was spouting off about Democrats being racist, so they would neve vote for Obama (despite the fact that Rush apparently plays a very enlightened tune titled "Barack the magic Negro")?
Then six months ago, the Dems were bigots because they wanted to move out AG AG?
Then two years ago, Dems were so overenthusiastic about racial quotas that they obligated the NFL to force the Philadelphia Eagles to start a black quarterback?
It's all so dizzying and hard to keep up with... and I know I'm missing alot.
Gee, I don't know Rush. Maybe it's because Hillary, Obama, Sharpton, Braun, Ferraro etc. are too discriminatory.
Uummmm... Rush.. PPSSST!! Come here... got something to show ya'... the dems DO have minoriteies.. they're right over there... Oh, and yes, you have to open your eyes...
Gotta admit this remark by Limbaugh is a head scratcher.
Wonder if he'll realize what a numbnut comment he made?
Jeter,
I think Rush counts on his audience not to knowing this isn’t true and evidently assumes they won’t verify what he says. It's the only way I can even begin to understand why he would make such a comment. Regardless of how anyone feels about the Democratic Party, they have to concede that it is extremely ethnically diversed and has been so for years. Actually I believe it’s the Limbaugh’s of the world who have contributed to the lack of diversity in the Republican Party.and I would be remiss if I didn't respond to this:
"We know that Democrats are idiots anyway on most things."
Yeah, you know, like taking care of the planet, wanting healthcare for all Americans, helping the poor, upholding the constitution, observing the rule of law, holding the Bush administration accountable, taking care of natural disasters, not wanting to stick in the quagmire of Iraq, wanting balance in the media, etc. etc.
"We know that Democrats are idiots anyway on most things."
All the Democrats I know (myself included) are smart enough NOT to take so much OxyContin that we go deaf.
I'm still waiting for Rush to come clean about his arrest for soliciting a male prostitute in Pittsburgh in the Early '70s, under the pseudonym "Jeff Christie". And I'll keep mentioning this until the people in Rush's organization who monitor MMFA bring this to his attention and he responds.
Hmmm . . . Jeff Christie/Rush; Jeff Gannon; Karl Rove; the ex-marine/male prostitute; pedophile congressmen . . .
Aren't these people be the self-appointed "morality" police?
Everytime I hear Limbaugh's fake piety when he alludes to Christianity or the bible I want to vomit. I doubt that any of these clowns have the vaguest idea what Jesus taught.
Exactly. With the passing of Falwell, I was recently commenting that such a man as loathsome as the so-called Reverend, and Limbaugh, had/have little idea what Christ likely hoped for his followers. If they do, then they rely on the ignorance of their followers, few of whom could name the 10 Commandments if pressed.
Speaking of Falwell, I just saw on the Faux News web site that Fred Phelps' roving band of homophobes will be protesting at his funeral on Tuesday.
Now THAT will be fun to watch.....
2004? Did I miss something? Is Bush part black or something? I know Cheeney is 3/4 evil, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as a minority...
Bush is our first mentally challenged president. The Dems are behind on that score.
I didn't know that mentally challenged people could graduate from Yale.
Proof posative that anyone can get a diploma if the money's right.
And I mean anyone!!!
"I didn't know that mentally challenged people could graduate from Yale." RH
You know, rino, I agree. Bush isn't stupid. Conservatism is.
I am not sure Bush is stupid, though graduating an Ivy League school is not proof either way, what is clear is he is intellectually lazy and incurious.
What never heard of the Ivy League policy known as the Gentlemens C? Well now you know.
"I didn't know that mentally challenged people could graduate from Yale."
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There's obviously a great deal you don't know. Even when the evidence is right before your eyes.
"Bush is our first mentally challenged president."
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That explains why he goes everywhere in the short limo.
Isn't evil a majority of the Republican party?
joke. all a joke. he's setting mmfa up. is this not clear by now. you just wait until tomorrow.
That crazy Rush. He got me again. When will I ever stop falling for those jokes...
Forgive me if I seem naive or old-fashioned, but isn't a joke supposed to have some humor in it?
Apparently not to Dane Cook fans.
Or to "readers" of Mallard Fillmore.
Easy, I have to disagree- Mallard fillmore is hilarious, just not deliberately.
My Sunday mornings aren't the same since the L.A. Times quit running the strip.A whole week of Rush and Fox consolidated neatly into 4 panels of strawmen, bitterness and paranoid confusion.
LOL! We get that *comic* up here and apparently the editors think it's such a political hit that they throw in the classified section with Doonsberry, which is funny because when those two are next to each other Mallard comes off exactly as you say... I think I would get a chuckle out of it once in a blue moon if it was next to Beetle Bailey...
It's probably not a good idea to subject the stuff this guy says to much of an analysis, but this example is just too hard to pass up.
The several paragraphs that form the excerpt, are filled with personal references, such as 'I' and 'you', where it's difficult if not impossible to follow along as to who it is the dialogue (of a single person) involves.
He starts with "those of us in the media", and then has "I kid you not" and "you can count on it every... [incomplete sentence]", which refer to his audience I guess.
But then he says "I guess you forgot about 2004", where he seems to be addressing some sort of spook or spirit in the air, followed by "And I guess -- you know".
But the dialogue of a single person reaches it's argumentative height, when rush asks:
"...why would you believe a poll of uninformed or ignorant people? What does it matter that a majority of Americans don't think the federal government's ready? Why not go ask the FEMA people?"
Who is rush speaking to there, his audience, or the spook/spirit in the air?
rush says it best (and tells us also why it may not be a good idea to analyze his words), when he wraps it up by saying:
"So? Who cares?"
...which he might be saying to his audience, or the spook/spirit in the air, or just to himself... who knows.
Spook/Spirit in the air: "So? Who cares? We know that rush is an idiot anyway, on most (if not all) things."
Where do you come up with these things?
I saw the item on MMFA's front page, and read the transcript of what rush had said, and noticed all the personal references he made, and had trouble trying to follow who it was he seemed to be talking to, and then commented on it.
Where do you come up with your things?
What a valuable comment, Tommy.
From what I've read, that's your omly comment on this thread. You couldn't make a valid and responsive comment to what Media Matters presented, so you thought you had to type something, so you typed this comment?
What about your stated position, Tommy, that if we don't like something, we should change the channel or stop reading? Why would you feel the need to make a comment if that's your belief?
Or, are you a hypocrite?
Didn't you read the top of the page? It's from the May 16 broadcast of his radio program. It's also a nearly incomprehensible word salad of circular logic and obtuse presumptions. But 'tis every thus with Rush.
Tommy didn't like it, so he took his own advice and didn't read it.
Of course, that didn't stop him from making ignorant comments about it.
Picture a group of all white males sitting around a conference table and they are all bankers wearing a suit; all of them out of touch with the rest of the world; that my friend is the Republican Party no matter how many photo opts of wearing a cowboy hat and riding a wood pony they have.
I guess if we are going into stereotypes, the Dem party could be visualized as a bunch of folks wearing tie dyed peace t shirts, sitting around a campfire, smoking dope and singing anti war protest songs. Of course, there would be equal representation from all religious groups, racial groups, and sexual orientations, and everyone would get a chance to sing solo or there would be lawsuits filed.
I presume from this that you are acknowledging that all Republicans are suit wearing stiffs? It's like the whole "Bush is a Christian / Bush is touched by the hand of God" argument that my sister throws at me in her justification of anything that Bush does. I silenced her forever (I hope) with the "if all these people are going to heaven, then I'd rather be in h*ll" response. Same with the Democrats. We have room for everyone because by and large we CARE about everyone, from pot smokin' hippies to the poor, to the religious (of course, in our world, all religions apply). You don't find that in a suit-and-tie corporate conference room.
Even you, Dave, are welcome at thecampfire. I'll save a special brownie just for you.
I was acknowledging that the post was full of stereotypes about the Republicans, and made fun of it accordingly. I am a Conservative and a staunch one. There is a difference between R's and C's, IMO. I personally don't care about the religious right, the abortion issue, morality in regards to politics, etc. I care about how much money I owe the Feds and how they are going to spend it. Period. Bush talking to God(and I know he claims it) is a punch line. In essence, I care about my own interests first. Tax cuts, stock market, investments, etc. You care about the "other guy" first. I guess that's what makes us different.
Bush666, you are also welcome to golf with me anytime, and I'll even save you my special Rush Limbaugh "Excellence" tees, providing your handicap is over 10.
Dave, I commend your honsety.
This just in...
You guys/girls may want to read an excerpt from Gore's new book. It has a lot of stuff about the media in there. I don't agree with all of the things he has written but it is interesting to me:
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1622015,00.html
quite an interesting read, Gore mentioning the polling story was quite telling. Thanks!
And that has what to do with the topic of this thread?
Is it me, or has bimbaugh descended into incoherent gibberish?
From this particular excerpt at least, he seems to be involved in a round table discussion, where he voices all the parts, and somehow winds up triumphant, like he's won a debate...
...but a debate against whom, is not so clear.
Excuse me, I mean't to say 'rush, the magic bimbo'.
Should probably be "Rush the tragic bimbo"
You know tomorrow he will say it is just a joke.
Comedian Rush Limbaugh is just being himself, pretty normal. Another WPITW candidate.
Now I'm confused (and a little off topic perhaps). Wasn't it yesterday Rush was going on about the out of touch dems that believe 9/11 was an inside job? So that poll is acceptable, but in the transcript here he rails against a poll regarding the public's perception of FEMA's readiness?
I'll just go pop an oxy and hope the headache goes away.
What? Are you kidding me? Republicans are the fastest shrinking minority in this country.
On the other hand, Independents and Libertarians are experiencing a spike in their ranks. ;^)
I think it's clear Limbaugh meant 2000 when Alan Keyes and Elizabeth Dole were running for the Republican nomination:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election%2C_2000#Republican_Party_nomination
Dan Quayle was also running, but I hesitate to say which minority he was representing....
Rush must be setting us up again. What a pranster!
...prankster!
The title:
Limbaugh complained Democrats are not asked why "there are no women and minorities on stage"Is misleading as he did not say that. He complained that the democrats are not asked those kinds of questions. Rush said:
And I guess -- you know, the Democrats never get those kinds of questions because it's always assumed that they're fair and just, and not discriminatory and all that.
The mmfa title is saying that Rush asked why the dems never get a specific question rather than kinds of questions.
A kind of question the dems could have been asked is:
"Why are though no muslims in the debate" ?
etc.
There is a difference between kinds of questions and a specfic question.
I don't think Rush is guilty beyond a reasonable double on this one.
should be reasonable doubt in the last sentence.. cheers.
Hey, you actually have a point.
Except, what kinds of questions are the Democrats not asked?
Sure he is the only KIND that makes sense in the context is racial and gender even IF religious diversity were the issue which party is it with a Muslim congressman? I believe that would be the Democrats. And the Bhuddist Congressman, why he is a Democrat too. The point is they dont get those kind of questions because the answer is obvious. I think I would vote to convict.
I would vote to commit. Rush is dangerous. Someone could die from laughing at his idiocy.
Off topic, except having to do with Rush, his idiocy, and that of his monkeys- I did a little road time today and tuned in the old clown, it was amazing-
A female caller (a fan) started in about gas prices, and was foolish enough to use the word "unfair" in regard to oil company profits.Rush completely mollified her by asking "who do you think influences the price of a barrel of crude oil?". Apparently Ms. Dittohead didn't catch that the Oil co.s profits are not determined by the price of their raw material, unrelated to their markup.
I got back on the road a while later, and Rush was bagging on a Dem politician who was commenting on gas prices. Now El Rushbo's angle was that this state set a fixed profit margin, meaning that the price of crude had nothing to do with it, only the regulation of retailers.
So it's the suppliers (A-rabs), Democrats (forcing price-controls in their Stalinist ways) and the retailers for their playing along with the game. Everybody but the poor oil companies, who just go along and make massive profits accidentally.
You might have a point if Rush did not major on attacking the Democrats even when there is no reason to attack them, like this time. When there were a pretty large group on stage, it was just a hackneyed statement about Democrats that he always uses. If he did intend what you suggest, he could have asked, even with all the representation by minorities, why are they never asked any questions like that. He ignord that fact on purpose no doubt or he is more dull witted that I think.
Limbaugh is in a state of denial just like he was when he was hooked on OxyContin and had to go to a rehab for four weeks to kick the drug habit. Limbaugh doesn't realize it is people like him who have divided this country along racial lines moreso than I have ever seen in my 78 years on this planet.
The only comments that should be made about the GOP leadership hopefuls is how profoundly silly they all seem, apart from one or two. It's all about religion, torture, religion, torture...kind of makes one wonder what the real issues are, and not the smokescreens.
I almost giggle about Limaugh's childish statement about baiting Media Matters. the guy is just nasty and hateful and for sure, does not like to be called on his hatefu, biased speech In fact I am giggling about his VERY silly statement about baiting. He just got caught out and was confronted about his misstatements and he is not used to folks calling his bluff. Keep it up, Media Matters. It is good to see the vast right wing conspiracy defanged.
I couldn't help but notice this comment by Rush:
"What does it matter that a majority of Americans don't think the federal government's ready?"
Isn't he insulting a large portion of his listeners by saying they don't matter? Where is the outrage?
Don't be surprised if Limbaugh spins this to another, "I baited Media Matters," rant.