NY Times excerpt of Her Way falsely claimed Clinton "first" accused Bush of misusing Iraq authorization in 2006
On May 29, The New York Times published an excerpt of Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr.'s upcoming book Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton (Little, Brown & Co., June 2007). The excerpt asserted that Sen. Clinton's June 21, 2006, floor statement marked "the first time in her public speeches" in which she offered "a new interpretation" -- or "revised account" -- of her 2002 vote to authorize the use of force against Iraq: "The authority Congress given [sic] the president and his administration four years earlier, Clinton explained, had been 'misused' because they acted 'without allowing the inspectors to finish the job in order to rush to war.' " In fact, Clinton has been claiming that President Bush misused the Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq since at least October 2003.
The Her Way excerpt appeared online on May 29 and will appear in the June 3 issue of The New York Times Magazine. In the excerpt, Gerth and Van Natta examined Clinton's support for a nonbinding amendment, introduced in June 2006 by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Jack Reed (D-RI), that called for "the beginning of a phased redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq by the end of the year":
What Clinton had accomplished was symbolic and important, even if it went unnoticed by reporters. Clinton could take credit for a compromise that garnered 39 votes, one independent and one Republican in addition to 37 Democrats. Still later, as the war worsened, she could argue that she had long backed some kind of withdrawal. She could also showcase on her campaign Web site her role as a "leader" in the Senate on national security.
In her impromptu remarks on the Senate floor, Clinton presented the usual litany of criticism against Republicans. Then, for the first time in her public speeches, she offered a new interpretation of her own actions in 2002. The revised account contained an ironic twist with respect to Levin, who had just graciously granted her the floor.
The authority Congress given [sic] the president and his administration four years earlier, Clinton explained, had been "misused" because they acted "without allowing the inspectors to finish the job in order to rush to war." In other words, Bush had given short shrift to diplomacy. Clinton did not mention her own vote against Levin's 2002 amendment, the one that would have required the president to pursue a more diplomatic approach before any invasion of Iraq. Her singling out of President Bush for misusing the authority from Congress played so well it soon became a staple of her campaign speeches.
Clinton said on the Senate floor on June 21, 2006:
CLINTON: As we debate our next steps in Iraq, it is critical that we recognize and fix as best we can the mistakes that have already been made and not repeat them. The Bush Administration misused the authority granted to it, choosing to act without allowing the inspectors to finish the job in order to rush to war, without a plan for securing the country, without an understanding of the insurgency or the true human, financial and strategic costs of this war, all the while viewing the dangerous and unstable conditions in Iraq through rose-colored glasses and the prism of electoral politics here at home.
However, Clinton had been making the same argument since at least October 2003. From a Senate floor speech Clinton delivered on October 17, 2003:
CLINTON: I know, from having heard the brief remarks of the Senator from Florida, that in a few minutes we will hear his usual thoughtful exposition as to why he, too, voted against the $87 billion.
I think it is imperative we all agree that, whichever way one of us voted, for or against this funding, all of us are united in our support for our brave men and women who are literally risking, and all too tragically losing, their lives on a daily basis in Iraq.
This was a very difficult vote for many of us. There are those of us, such as myself, who voted to give the President authority. We disagree with the way he used that authority. We have many questions, and still most are unanswered, about the choices the President and his team have made over the last year. But the idea of giving our President authority to act in the global war against terrorism, if necessary in his opinion, against Saddam Hussein, was one I could support and I did so. In the last year, however, I have been first perplexed, then surprised, then amazed, and even outraged and always frustrated by the implementation of the authority given the President by this Congress.
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CLINTON: Time and time again, the administration has had the opportunity to level with the American people. Unfortunately, they haven't been willing to do that.
Among the many questions that I and others raised and the many criticisms we lodged against the use of the authority , which I and the majority of this body voted for, was the administration's aborting of the United Nations process and the inspections regime in order to launch military action.
There was never any doubt in anyone's mind with any knowledge of the American military what the outcome would be. I, for one, knew there was no worry whatsoever; that we have the finest equipped, trained, and motivated military probably in the history of the world, and they would do the mission they were assigned. So they did.
Clinton expressed the same position in a February 9, 2004, interview with the Poughkeepsie Journal (printed in the paper on February 10):
Q: I want to ask you about Iraq -- and if you had any regrets about the vote that gave President Bush the authority to use force and the fact that no weapons of mass destruction have been found.
A: I don't regret giving the president authority; I regret the way he used it, and that's connected with the weapons-of-mass-destruction issue. I believed, like the majority of my colleagues and people from the previous administration as well as this one, that Saddam Hussein did have remaining stockpiles and capability for biological and chemical weapons, and was still intent upon achieving nuclear weapons.
I believe that the Security Council's unanimous resolution to reinstitute inspections was, to a significant extent, influenced by the American Congress resolution. But, from that point on, (it is) a deeply concerning puzzle to me as to why the administration made the decisions that they made, starting with their refusal to permit (U.N. chief weapons inspector) Hans Blix and the inspectors to actually do their job, going through to the fact that they had no plan for the post-military conflict in Iraq, despite numerous questions by me and others on the Arms [sic] Services Committee about how long we are going to be there, how many trips it was going to take, what would the cost be, what would the expected reception from the Iraqis be. They just basically ignored those very important questions ...
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Q: All the more reason, though, to ask why you wouldn't listen to, say, someone like Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., who spoke passionately about the fact that Congress was abrogating its responsibility by giving the president this much authority.
A: Well, I think there are three reasons why I made the decision I made. First, perhaps as the senator from New York, what happened to us on 9/11 played a bigger role than it did in the calculations of other senators, and I fully understand and accept that. But, having seen the horrors of the attacks we suffered and knowing as I do that, despite the horrific loss of life on Sept. 11, the introduction of a chemical, biological or radiological weapon would have made it even worse, caused me to be very thoughtful on how I proceeded with the president's request.
Secondly, I think that the Congress was wrong to deny (President Clinton) authority with respect to Kosovo, and they did it for politically partisan reasons, and I don't think that's right. I don't care whether the president's Republican or Democratic. I think you have to take the president at his word, and this president said to us, "We believe there are weapons," which many of us also believed, and "We are going to do everything we can to try to get inspectors in to determine how we can get to the bottom of the evidence that would show us what Saddam has and then finally to disarm him." I found that a legitimate objective because we have been dealing with Saddam Hussein since 1991 in the Gulf War ...
And, finally, I think when you are asked by a president to give him authority to proceed in one manner with the ultimate decision to use force, granted, assuming the following steps would be taken, that doesn't seem to me to be unreasonable. What happened here is that we gave authority to a president who in my view misused the authority. So I think we all have to take a hard look at what happened in the intervening months, and now more than a year, and try to get answers to the questions that we now have to have.
On January 28, 2006, during an interview conducted by former NBC host Jane Pauley, Clinton similarly criticized Bush's misuse of the authority granted to him by Congress. From a Sacramento Bee article published the following day:
Replying to a question from Pauley about why she voted in 2002 to give President Bush authority to wage war in Iraq, Clinton said Bush insisted he needed that authority to prod Iraq into allowing inspectors back into that country. But Bush ultimately misused that authority, Clinton added.
"No matter what one thinks about how President Bush used that authority, we cannot root for failure," Clinton said. "We cannot take actions now that would further undermine whatever chance of stability the new Iraqi government might have."
On the May 31, 2006, edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Clinton campaign aide Howard Wolfson noted that Clinton had made this claim before:
MATTHEWS: Well, there are a lot of people that supported the Vietnam War in '63 and by '68 said it was a mistake to proceed that far. Has she made that kind of a judgment? She doesn't have to recant like in some old inquisition, but can she say looking at it from all the perspective of these last three years, we're just getting deeper and deeper into the sand. That's not recanting, that's not reconsidering, that's looking at new facts.
WOLFSON: Well, she has certainly said that the administration has not gone about it the right way and that the administration misused the authority that Congress gave them.
Indeed, it was no secret that Clinton was making this allegation prior to June 2006. From the September 18, 2004, edition of CNBC's Tim Russert:
RUSSERT: And, yet when you ask Hillary Clinton, who also voted to authorize the war, she'll say, "Yes, I voted to authorize the president, and he misused the authority." And if you asked her, "Knowing what you know today, would you vote for the war?" She said, "There wouldn't be a vote because if there's no weapons of mass destruction, there's no reason to have a vote." A decidedly different tack than John Kerry has taken.















Letting lies like this go unchallenged is exactly why we need to bring back the provisions of the fairness doctrine specifically designed to deal with this type of injustice, but nooooo, poor widdle whitey wingers can't withstand the scrutiny that their beliefs are incapable of standing up against. Which is why, even though they claim the free market would correct poor performing opinion shows, this guy still is on the air: http://achorn.blogspot.com/2007/05/glenn-beck-ratings-report-may-21-25.html
Snoopy, speaking of the fairness doctrine, I heard a bit of Rush this morning, and thought I'd beat the con posters to the punch.
The El Rushbo latest convoluted talking point-
Hugo Chavez knocking that TV station off the air is "exactly like Al Gore's Fairness Doctrine".
I love that kinda stuff!
That's too funny! BTW, how do you stomach listening to the great bloviator? Is it true that your mind goes numb?
Your mind only goes numb if you believe it, or maybe vice-versa. As long as you know it's BS, it's pretty entertaining.
As the war detoriates more and more every day, it's so refreshing to see the members of Congress who voted yes for authorization to go war, backtracking and equivocating on what their vote meant, or how to spin it and think they are saving face, politically.
Why not just say "I screwed up, we all screwed up, the intelligence failed us, either we didn't examine it closely enough or it was inherently flawed, but I take full responsibility for my vote then, and now".
Spineless, ninny, poll-driven, conviction-less politicians.....I take full responsibility for my NO vote on their future political aspirations.
Hey, if Bungle hadn't lied about the cause for the resolution; and if Bungle hadn't lied about how he would use it; and if he had done at least some small part of what he promised to do, when he requested that authority; this thread, and most of the troubles of the past 4-1/2 years, would be non-existent.
So - even though *I* could not have voted for that authorization - I can accept those who claim to have been mislead - lied to - and who now view that liar as culpabale, themselves as at worst naive
If you are comfortable with voting for a presidential candidate who can easily shirk responsibility by claiming they were "lied" to in a matter of national security and international importance, then by all means, go ahead and vote accordingly.
I prefer to hold those that ask for my vote to a higher standard of accountability.
Whereas *I* merely measure them against that "higher standard" - knowing everything, and acting accordingly would indeed be nice, but such perfection is not often encountered in this mortal plane. Hillary is not my favorite Dem, as I may have previously mentioned. I prefer Edwards, among currently announced candidates, or Gore if he were to run; and could vote for Obama were he nominated; but, heck, the penalty here is only ten yards and loss of down, and even with that handicap, she is certainly acceptable to me, since 30+% of the population doesn't even now recognize that Bungle did not do as he promised, and that he premised even those promises upon lies in the first place. Had it not been for rumor-gathering during the months prior to the invasion, I might myself have fallen prey to those premising lies - but I could see the preparation for invasion before the inspectors were even initially in place. Not everyone, however, started with the belief that if Bungle sez, it must be a lie; I launched that belief in 1998, when he was merely the lyingest Governor in the US, so I had a headstart, tinfoil hat firmly in place.
why is changing your mind in light of new evidence back tracking or to use the ols chestnut that tommy didnt use "flip flopping" at least she dosent have a "stay the course no matter what " mentality
Jeff Gerth made a choice between cleaning house via truth-telling or piling on the B and S. He chose to just keep on piling.
The NY times is getting to the point where reading the pro right wing take on the world is equivalent to flushing a toilet bowl full of S with the handle inside the bowl.
What stinks more my graphic depiction of the NY Time and Gerth's "Her Way" or Gerth still making money piling it on?
Bush breaking the backs of the troops and breaking the moral of the country
I'm glad they posted this, for it proves that Hillary has been consistent in her opposition of Bush's tactical use of the delegated war powers, that he chose war as a first option not last.
Be that as it may, there is a dearth of legitimate reasons to trust this president with anything more deadly than a clothespin.
Hillary's biggest problem is explaining why she didn't have the foresight to vote no, given that other Democrats did.
Randy
Hillary's biggest problem is explaining why she didn't have the foresight to vote no, given that other Democrats did.
Did Hillary Clinton actually read the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before voting to authorize the war? It's been reported that she didn't....
I'd like to see that confirmed or denied.
Seems to me if she had, she would have voted NO.
At least I'd hope so.
Hi Jeter. That's a fair enough question.Haven't heard much detail on what she knew and when she knew it.
BTW, how'd your Pinstriped Poltroons do over the weekend against my Hapless Halos?I didn't have a chance to check the scores. ;0)
I didn't have a chance to check the scores. ;0)
Yeah yeah sure you didn't...oh the cruelty!!!
It's only May. And that is my only comment on that subject ;-)
As far as Hills goes, I figured someone, somewhere [inc here] might have debunked the story by now. Maybe it's true? If it is, me thinks Mizz Hillary has some splaining to do!
Jeter,
I don't have any hard rates, but I've read here and there and I've heard through the grapevine that very few legislatures actually read the entire report, they went by an executive summary or an abstract. I think they should refund some of their salary for that year for not doing their jobs. I am pretty ticked off at all of them (federal legislatures) now. The caliber of our current crop of leaders in DC sucks. Boy, something has to give.
I believe that only the minority leader was authorized to read the entire report ... and would have been incarcerated had he leaked any from it ... so Hillary, at best, would have been able to see parts (cherry-picked) of the entire report ...
The foresight is being a bipartisan leader and (when faced with serious intelligence provided to you by the President that there is a threat to American national security,) not simply disagreeing with the President for the sake of disagreeing with a member of the opposing party. Bush lied to the American people. Clinton is not unprincipled for having been lied to nor is the majority of the Congress. Who confidently knew the facts on the ground? No one. It's all the more reason Clinton wanted to see the UN inspections through.
mmfa correctly showed that HRC had voiced critism of the tactics in the war on terrorism in her 2003 floor speech.
Following are excerpts from that same floor speech that mmfa failed to highlight...concerning her evolving position on the war.
- Yet I, for one, believe this mission in Iraq is too important for failure...we will have undermined our long-term stability and we will certainly have created a more dangerous world despite our efforts to avoid that...
One can agree on the goal that was adopted in 1998 for regime change. I, for one, am in the camp that believes the world is better off without Saddam Hussein at the helm of a dangerous, tyrannical regime...
I, for one, have said repeatedly the intelligence about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein had been consistent—consistent through three administrations: the first: Bush administration, the Clinton administration, and now this administration...We cannot fail in Iraq. -
Certainly she has issues with the tactics used in the war in Iraq. Yet, by her own admission that is no reason to vote "NO" on funding the troops and supporting a date certain declaration of defeat.
Yep, Hillary has done a 180 in her stance on Iraq...trying to shore up her support with the far left... time will tell if the abandonment of her earlier principles will prove successful...or a poor politcal gamble for personal gain.
"We cannot fail in Iraq. "
Oh, that's right....it's the "central front of the War on Terror" and "if we leave they'll follow us home" and "we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here". Does that just about cover it? Actually, we CAN fail, and probably WILL unless we bite the bullet and put another half million troops in there...which we don't have. The only question remaining is how big a mess we leave it in, and how many billions of dollars and thousands of lives Bush's idiotic blunder will end up costing us.
Take it up with the front runner for president in the democrat party...she's the one that "used" to believe that we "cannot fail"...before caving to the pressure of the far left anti-war crowd.
Politics really does make such strange bedfellows.
I pretty much agree. Hillary has been a pretty stout war supporter overall. Sniping about the tactics and some of Bungles misrepresentation but overall she liked this war. Hillary has always been fairly conservative for a Dem and that is one of the problems I have with her.
From the "far left Anti-war crowd".
The opposition is to the inept occupation of a defeated country. Our resoources and man power are limited and the excursion into Iraq has 'neutered' our ability and effectiveness to wage the War Against Terrorism that sought to hold those responsible for the 9/11 attack to task.
The real war is in Afghanistan [and Pakistan] where our commitment has been half-hearted and ineffective. The President made a real "leaders" speech by declaring that no nation would be allowed to harbor Osama bin Laden yet we know that he had been in a Pakistan safe area. For all we know he's living in a spiderhole outside of Baghdad or a suite in Las Vegas.
Withdrawing from the field does not mean that a force has been defeated it means they are not going to engage in a conflict in a combat zone that favors their opponent. We defeated Iraq in less than 90 days with fewer then 400 casualties. By becoming an occupation force we have lost an additional 3,000 men.
By my calculation and distorted assessment we could have allowed Iraq to rebuild, reform their government [without our interference], and destroyed them for not doing the job right six additional times for fewer casualties and cost then we have committed to this occupation. And had the opportunity to focus on the War on Terror!
I view that Senator Clinton made the judgement call to authorize the President to act based on his pledge to seek a resolution short of invasion and with the knowledge that he had Superior Command Experience at his disposal in the form of Secretary Powell, advise not sought or utilized to the detriment of our forces and the success of the objective of disarming or destroying Sadam Hussein.
There is no question but we will leave Iraq and it is too clear that President Bush has lost control of the situation. The measure is the method taken for top US Officials touring Iraq, sneak in, surround yourself with a well armed 'private' army and scoot out ASAP.
A strategic withdrawal is neither "surrender" nor "defeat".
The "War on Terror" is a worldwide conflict, with pockets of terrorists in over 60 different nations. Nations are cursed to always fight "the LAST war", and in this case it's VietNam. Bush learned nothing from the lessons of VietNam, but that's not surprising: he had almost nothing to do with the war, and he is not a scholar, and he doesn't read.
What is called for is a new strategy, a world-wide plan to attack terrorists WHERE THEY ARE, rather than getting bogged down in a civil war which saps all our resources. We need intelligence, and cooperation with other nations, and precision strike forces. Bush is fighting the LAST war, so these things will not be done.
Hillary made one terrible mistake: She BELIEVED this Administration. She knows better now, as do we all. Will President Hillary pull out of Iraq? Yes indeed. Will she abandon the "war on terror"? No way. SHE will make the necessary adjustments to have a meaningful and successful war on terror, and we will only THEN begin to make progress and quit wasting all our resources.
The wasteful losses so far, in lives and maimings and treasure, are solidly on George W. Bush. He refuses to change, or to admit he might have been wrong, even as he admits that he was wrong about ALL the rationalizations he gave the American people FOR the war in the first place.
Absolutely right, Tex. At the chosin resivoir, we didn't retreat. We turned 180 degrees and attacked in a different direction. Too bad our "my pet goat" in chief is too stupid to learn from the past.