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Kondracke: McCain is "truth-teller" on Iraq war

June 07, 2007 7:04 pm ET

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During the "All-Star Panel" segment on the June 6 edition of Fox News Special Report with Brit Hume, Roll Call executive editor Morton Kondracke asserted that during the GOP presidential debates, Sen. John McCain "was the truth-teller about the war in Iraq." Yet during the debates, McCain stated more than once that "they" -- Al Qaeda or other terrorists -- "will follow us home" if the United States withdraws from Iraq, an assertion that is widely challenged by security and terrorism experts. Outside the debates, McCain recently claimed that Americans "could walk through" some neighborhoods in Baghdad, to which CNN and Time magazine Baghdad correspondents responded, respectively, that the claim that "an American can walk freely [in Baghdad] is beyond ludicrous" and that McCain "needs a reality check."

During the May 3 GOP presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan presidential library, McCain was asked what he would need to win the war in Iraq. McCain responded, saying that "[w]e must win in Iraq. If we withdraw, there will be chaos; there will be genocide; and they will follow us home":

CHRIS MATTHEWS (moderator): Senator McCain, most of the public pessimism today has to do with Iraq. What would you need, as commander in chief, to win the war in Iraq?

McCAIN: I would need the support of the American people. I would need to be able to show them some success in Iraq, both on the battlefield as well as with the Maliki government. We have a new general; we have a new strategy. That strategy can succeed.

The young men and women who are serving are the best of America. I believe that if we bring about stability in the neighborhoods in Iraq and have the Maliki government govern, you are going to succeed.

My friends, when the majority leader of the United States Senate says we've lost the war, the men and women that are serving in Iraq reject that notion. And if we lost, then who win? Did Al Qaeda win? When on the floor of the House of Representatives they cheer -- they cheer -- when they pass a withdrawal motion that is a certain date for surrender, what were they cheering? Surrender? Defeat?

We must win in Iraq. If we withdraw, there will be chaos; there will be genocide; and they will follow us home.

McCain made a similar claim in the most recent GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire: "I am convinced that if we fail and we have to withdraw, they will follow us home. It will be a base for Al Qaeda."

Yet, as Media Matters for America has noted (here and here), numerous media outlets have reported assessments of a wide range of U.S. intelligence officials, security experts, and military analysts disagreeing with this view. For example:

  • According to an April 6 McClatchy Newspapers article, as detailed by Media Matters, "[m]ilitary and diplomatic analysts" say that a similar claim President Bush has repeatedly made about the Iraq war -- that "this is a war in which, if we were to leave before the job is done, the enemy would follow us here" -- "exaggerate[s] the threat that the enemy forces in Iraq pose to the U.S. mainland." The article also reported: "U.S. military, intelligence and diplomatic experts in Bush's own government say the violence in Iraq is primarily a struggle for power between Shiite and Sunni Muslim Iraqis seeking to dominate their society, not a crusade by radical Sunni jihadists bent on carrying the battle to the United States."
  • A March 18 Washington Post article reported that "U.S. intelligence officials and outside experts" have said that Al Qaeda in Iraq "poses little danger to the security of the U.S. homeland," as Media Matters also noted.
  • In an April 30 report on National Public Radio's All Things Considered exploring Bush's claim that "[i]f we do not defeat the terrorists and extremists in Iraq, they ... will follow us to the United States of America," NPR correspondent David Welna cited several experts challenging this claim. He reported that retired Brig. Gen. John H. Johns considers that warning "propaganda" and that, according to Johns, "[i]t's actually leaving American forces in Iraq ... that increases the chances of a terrorist attack on the U.S." Welna also reported that retired Army Lt. Col. James Carafano, a research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, "calls asserting that terrorists will follow U.S. troops home naive and poor rhetoric." Welna also featured a clip of Carafano saying: "There's no national security analyst that's really credible who thinks that people are going to come from Iraq and attack the United States -- that that's a credible scenario."

Additionally, as Media Matters also noted, McCain recently told conservative radio host William Bennett that "[t]here are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today. The U.S. is beginning to succeed in Iraq." On the March 27 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer asked McCain about his comments, he responded, "You know, that's where you ought to catch up on things, Wolf," adding that "General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in a non-armed Humvee. I think you ought to catch up."

Later in the program, Blitzer asked CNN Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware to reconcile McCain's comments. Ware told Blitzer that "[t]o suggest that there's any neighborhood in this city where an American can walk freely is beyond ludicrous," adding: "I'd love Senator McCain to tell me where that neighborhood is, and he and I can go for a stroll." Regarding McCain's claim that Gen. Petraeus travels "almost every day in a non-armed Humvee," Ware said that McCain "is way off base on this one." Ware also said that McCain's credibility on Iraq "is now being left out hanging to dry" and that he doesn't "know what part of Neverland Senator McCain is talking about when he says we can go strolling in Baghdad."

Responding to McCain's comments, Time magazine Baghdad correspondent Brian Bennett said: "Please, Senator, take me to these neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and Bill Bennett can walk around." Bennett also reported that there is one neighborhood that he could walk around with "a couple of our Iraqi bodyguards," but only "for about three blocks -- then we'd have to get back in the car before the cell phone calls to kidnappers caught up with us." Bennett further reported that kidnappings are a danger for Westerners and that strict security precautions are necessary for everyone walking in the highly fortified and defended "Green Zone" in central Baghdad, adding: "McCain needs a reality check."

Kondracke has also recently proclaimed that "John McCain was a war hero, and he's my idea of a political hero," explaining that McCain said in his April 11 speech to the Virginia Military Institute "that he'd rather lose a campaign than lose a war." Kondracke added: "And he said, 'If you think that the enemy wouldn't kill American kids, you're crazy.' And, you know -- and that is the lesson that Americans ought to take. They are going to come after us wherever we are, and they'll kill our kids as well." When asked by co-host and Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes, "Is this going to help the McCain campaign?" Kondracke responded: "Boy, I hope so."

From the June 6 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume:

KONDRACKE: Look, the -- I don't see how you can look at these debates and not gain an admiration for John McCain. I mean, he was the truth-teller about the war in Iraq, and he said that the Bush policy was not working against what his own president -- he's backed up the Bush surge and now on immigration he is not giving -- he's not giving an inch. He believes in comprehensive -- solution, which I think is the only --

BRIT HUME (host): Sailing against the wind --

KONDRACKE: -- sailing against the wind.

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    • Author by DorisRussell (June 07, 2007 7:09 pm ET)
         

      Yeah ok Mort

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 07, 2007 10:17 pm ET)
           

        I thought for sure our president was the spokesman for the truth ?

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    • Author by greekfurnace (June 07, 2007 7:11 pm ET)
         

      Just all depends on what these clowns consider 'truth'.

      I just love how they keep pushing this 'maverick' thing (ie. 'sailing into the wind'). Give me a break. McCain is a bootlicker. A broken, sad man.

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    • Author by populist (June 07, 2007 7:15 pm ET)
         

      wow, that's just amazing.  Well, I guess it just about confirms that nearly everything coming out of McCain's mouth is distorted, propaganda, or an outright lie.

      That's the Fox News stamp of approval - at least they let us know who the mouthpieces are!

      But, should we really be surprised?  Politics and lying have gone hand in hand for ages.....and it's no different for American politicians.  Sad but true.

      Some follow up reading on this issue:

      "Politicians Lie? Say it Ain't So!" - click here 

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 07, 2007 7:16 pm ET)
         

      Because he walked around Baghdad with armed troops and a fleet of military helicopters overhead ? And thought we wouldn't find out about this little tidbit.

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    • Author by mefirst (June 07, 2007 7:20 pm ET)
         

      mccain's right about there being chaos when we leave.  but we guaranteed that by invading. 

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    • Author by valentinian (June 07, 2007 7:30 pm ET)
         

      "I don't see how you can look at these debates and not gain an admiration for John McCain."

      Um. Having more intellect than a demented bee, perhaps? 

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (June 07, 2007 7:40 pm ET)
           

        Be nice, Val. McCain's no spring chicken.Can't you at least admire him for staying up for the debates, probably right after making the early bird dinner at IHOP?

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 07, 2007 9:53 pm ET)
           

        I watched this so-called debate ( more like exposition of talking points fest ) and McCain in my view came across like that duracell battery bunny when pounding on the podium. Quite comical i'd say.

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    • Author by Harlequin (June 07, 2007 7:59 pm ET)
         

      Hey Americans it's summer time. Take a trip aboard Air Iraq to Bhagdad. McCain says it's safe to walk around the Bhagdad marketplace. So go there and get yourself a souvenir.

      Disclaimer: if you do go you are going on McCain's word. He's the truth teller according to Kondracke. Don't go lawyer up and hit me with  a lawsuit because you went to Iraq based on my post. Quite frankly I think Kondracke and McCain are full of it among other things that Media Matters will filter out of my post. Again I repeat you are going to Iraq because you are dumb enough to believe Kondracke and McCain. End of Disclaimer

      When you do get back from Bhagdad tell us how McCain is right. We love to hear it and show us your souvenir. Maybe a video tape of you getting your head chopped off or something like that.

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    • Author by tex (June 08, 2007 8:19 am ET)
         

      I'm serious here: can someone tell me what there is in Mort Kondracke's resume that might compel me to listen to a WORD he says? Seriously, he's there on national TV telling me what to think, giving his "opinion" about the veracity of a man whose words are contradicte by every fact I know and have been shown. Mort is asking me to believe HIM (and McCain) and not my own eyes and ears. I am supposed to beleive him on FAITH ALONE, and diregard all reality. Why is this? Is Mort some sort of diety? Is he an intellectual powerhouse whose record compells the unwashed to give him fealty?

      Or is Mort just another politically rightwing hack attempting to feed LIES into our propagandistic "media" to try to fool a few gullible idiots?

      My bet is on the latter. I know of no events in Mort's (or any OTHER of the array of Rightwing pundits, to include Limbaugh, Hannity, or Beck) that would compel a moderately aware and intelligent person to place ANY value on the words they speak. They are HACKS, and they are involved in HACKERY. Their words are utter horsecrap, delivered with the hopes of deception. Mort doesn't know a damned thing, PLUS he wishes harm to America by promoting his lies.

      Why would ANYONE listen to Mort Kondracke? Anybody have a clue? 

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (June 08, 2007 12:55 pm ET)
           

        Tex, a Republican poster recently included Kondracke in a list of Fox "liberal" commentators, in illustrating the fair and balanced angle that he seemed to be buying.

        Being a big fan of The Beltway Boobs myself, I've commented here before regarding the little puppet show they put on. One pretends to apply some critical thinking to an issue, then the other(Fred) quickly wins him over with GOP talking points.

        Apparently, this has actually convinced some of the Fox audience that they're getting a debate with their propaganda. 

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    • Author by ashdla (June 08, 2007 12:44 pm ET)
         

      I keep hearing about McCain being a "maverick" and a "straight talker," but all I have seen and heard over the past few years is a man sell himself out the Republican political establishment without an ounce of conviction, save an issue or two. I keep hearing McCain was something of a revolutionary eight years ago. Is this really true? Is the spineless delusional hack I see on television now the same man that the media, and even my mother says he is/ was?

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      • Author by ashdla (June 08, 2007 12:48 pm ET)
           

        sell himself out to the Republican political establishment

        Sorry, 1st post jitters :-P

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        • Author by valentinian (June 08, 2007 1:25 pm ET)
             

          Welcome Conscious!

          We like our posts full of errors around here - Preview is for wusses who can't commit...

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    • Author by tex (June 08, 2007 1:07 pm ET)
         

      CONSCIOUS:

      Most Americans cut McCain a lot of slack, because of his service to his nation in VietNam, and the time he spent in a Prisoner of War camp (was it SEVEN years?).

      Such sacrifice and courage deserves the highest respect, and when he returned with a desire to serve in public office, he was greeted with stockpiles of good will.

      This ended when he dared to challenge W Bush for the GOP nomination. The GOP smear machine was turned loose on him, his military service was denigrated, his courage challenged, his PATRIOTISM challenged, and there were even rumors spread about his having fathered a black child. Rove is a purist when it comes to character assassination: NOBODY, least of all decorated combat veterans and heros (who Rove must hate with a jealous passion, since he, W, Dick, and the rest of his neocon pals are all chickenhawks) are spared the slime.

      It was McCain's response ... taking all that crap without fighting back ... and then bouncing back as one of Dubya's most vocal supporters ... that destroyed his credibility with the rest of the nation.

      Honor his heroism in the past, do not denigrate his service or his record, but a credible candidate for PRESIDENT? No longer possible. 

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    • Author by ashdla (June 08, 2007 2:15 pm ET)
         

      tex

      I am grateful and thankful for his and the service of all of the soldiers who fought, and continue to fight for the principles this country was founded upon. That being said, military service does not excuse from criticism. However, the "spineless delusional hack " portion of my comment was, in retrospect, over-the top and not necessary to make my point.

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