On Meet the Press, Gerth and Van Natta cling to falsehood about Clinton's criticism of Bush on war
On the June 10 broadcast of NBC's Meet the Press, Jeff Gerth, co-author of Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton (Little, Brown & Co., June 2007), again claimed that prior to June 2006, Clinton "didn't accuse" President Bush "of misusing the authority" granted him by the 2002 Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq. In fact, as Media Matters for America has noted, she did precisely that in an interview more than two years before.
In Her Way, Gerth and co-author Don Van Natta Jr. referred to Clinton's June 21, 2006, statement on the Senate floor as "the first time in her public speeches" in which "she offered a new interpretation of her own actions in 2002," writing: "The authority Congress had given the president and his administration four years earlier, Clinton explained, had been 'misused' because they acted 'without allowing the inspectors to finish the job in order to rush to war.' " This claim was included in an excerpt of Her Way published in the June 3 New York Times Magazine.
From the excerpt of Her Way in the Times Magazine:
In her impromptu remarks on the Senate floor, Clinton presented the usual litany of criticism against Republicans. Then, for the first time in her public speeches, she offered a new interpretation of her own actions in 2002. The revised account contained an ironic twist with respect to [Sen. Carl] Levin [D-MI], who had just graciously granted her the floor.
The authority Congress given the president and his administration four years earlier, Clinton explained, had been ''misused'' because they acted ''without allowing the inspectors to finish the job in order to rush to war.'' In other words, Bush had given short shrift to diplomacy. Clinton did not mention her own vote against Levin's 2002 amendment, the one that would have required the president to pursue a more diplomatic approach before any invasion of Iraq. Her singling out of President Bush for misusing the authority from Congress played so well it soon became a staple of her campaign speeches.
The events of the next few days seemed to validate Clinton's position. Two days later, on June 23, she was applauded at a gathering of moderate-leaning Democrats, when she articulated a more-pronounced antiwar message. The reception was in marked contrast to the boos that greeted her 10 days earlier at a meeting of liberal activists. Some antiwar activists and previous critics now praised her for embracing redeployment and moving closer to their views. Roger Hickey, who invited Clinton to the conference where she was booed, said her action in the Senate ''was a significant new movement for her and the Democratic Party.'' With the 2006 midterm elections approaching, the party was sharpening its antiwar message.
But the suggestion that her June 2006 floor statement marked the first time Clinton "singl[ed] out ... President Bush for misusing the authority from Congress," which Gerth and Van Natta write "played so well it soon became a staple of her campaign speeches," is false. As Media Matters noted when the passage appeared in the Times excerpt, Clinton told the Poughkeepsie Journal in a February 9, 2004, interview: "And, finally, I think when you are asked by a president to give him authority to proceed in one manner with the ultimate decision to use force, granted, assuming the following steps would be taken, that doesn't seem to me to be unreasonable. What happened here is that we gave authority to a president who in my view misused the authority." Media Matters requested that the Times run a correction of the excerpt, but the paper refused. While the Poughkeepsie Journal interview was not a "speech," narrowly construed, given that Gerth and Van Natta's point in making the above claim is that June 2006 marked a sharp change in Clinton's rhetoric to appeal more to the base of the Democratic Party, for the authors' purposes, that claim, and therefore their point in making it, are vitiated by Clinton's statement in the Poughkeepsie Journal interview more than two years earlier.
On Meet the Press, host Tim Russert asked the authors about an October 17, 2003, statement by Clinton on the floor of the Senate, noted by Media Matters, in which Clinton said, "We disagree with the way he used that authority." Gerth responded by reiterating the "public speech" claim made in the book and by asserting that "accusing the president of misusing his authority -- which is really starting down the road to impeachment -- is different than saying, 'I regret how he used that authority.' " However, when Russert pressed further, noting that Clinton "did say 'I disagree with the way he used his authority' back in 2003," Gerth stated flatly that Clinton "didn't accuse him of misusing the authority, which is an escalation of her statement." Even accepting Gerth's premise that accusing Bush of misusing his authority constituted an "escalation" of Clinton's statements that she regretted the way he used his authority -- and Media Matters has previously shown that Clinton herself appeared not to make this distinction -- the fact remains that she invoked that "escalat[ed]" rhetoric more than two years before the authors say she did.
From the June 10 edition of NBC's Meet the Press:
RUSSERT: You say that she didn't talk about diplomacy as a reason for interpreting her vote until June of 2006. Supporters of the senator will say, "Wrong. October 17, 2003, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, she talked about it."
GERTH: No. That's not correct, Tim. What we said in the book and in the New York Times Magazine article was that her first public speech about the president misusing his authority -- making the charge "misusing the authority" -- took place in June of 2006 on the Senate floor. What you're referring to is remarks that she made in October of 2003 where she said she regretted how the president used his authority. And supporters of Sen. Clinton tried to get The New York Times to correct this one sentence, and The New York Times decided there's nothing to correct because accusing the president of misusing his authority -- which is really starting down the road to impeachment -- is different than saying, "I regret how he used that authority."
RUSSERT: She did say "I disagree with the way he used his authority" back in 2003.
GERTH: Yes, she did, but she didn't accuse him of misusing the authority, which is an escalation of her statement.
VAN NATTA: And they demanded that -- the Clinton campaign demanded a correction from The New York Times on this point. It was one sentence that was in our New York Times Magazine cover excerpt last week, and the Times editors looked at it carefully and decided it should not be corrected.
















He misused drugs and alcohol. Why wouldn't he misuse his power? Just because he "found Jesus" (actually he found a note from Laura stating: "its me or your coke and Jack D,") has not made him an honest person.
In the parade I saw in DC yesterday, Hillary declined to show up but sent a large drawn picture of her head to take her place. They drove the large picture thru the parade in it's own car with little kids in Vote For Hillary t's. Big Sister is coming. Vote for the disembodied head of Hillary Clinton. She loves you. She's taking us back to work on Maggie's Farm! Yee-haw!
I am wondering, was this the "Capital Pride" parade you were attending? An event "celebrating the spirit and strength in the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) communities in Washington, DC."?
What I'm also wondering...
Can you confirm that the parade float was sanctioned by Hillary's campaign? Or was this a separate organization that wanted to endorse Hillary by participating in a parade? My guess is the latter, since I don't see her name anywhere on the list of scheduled participants.
Was Hillary asked to attend, and then, as you asserted, decline to show up? I scoured the net, hoping to find a blurb about this in a blog somewhere, but you seem to have an inside scoop that no one else does.
Did Hillary, as you asserted, actually provide a "large drawn picture" of herself to place on a parade float in lieu of a personal appearance? Again, I was hoping to find a blog blurb about this, but you again seem to have some inside dirt that no one else has been privy to.
Have I pretty much dismantled your B.S. conclusions about what you saw in this parade yet?
I disagree with the way Kim Jong-Il uses his authority over the people of North Korea; it's absurd for anyone to then interpret my words as meaning that he misuses his authority. I think he uses authority incorrectly, but misuse? Clearly not the same, as Gerth would point out.
I read your post twice Brandeur...
I still don't know what you're saying.
Clinton voted for the war. She knew Bush was going to go to Iraq if the vote passed. Does anyone really care when she began rationalizing her vote and trying to blame others for her political decision to vote for a war that she knew was based on a heap of lies? Anyone here really beleive that Clinton was "misled" by Bush or that she thought he wouldn't "use his authority," to go to war? If she did, then she was too stupid to be president. If she didn't, then she is a liar and a coward and doesn't deserve to be president.
Now THIS post I agree with. Hillary had to know exactly what Bush was doing and made a political decision. She is nowhere near progressive enough for me and is one of the last Dems I would vote for.
I agree. I won't vote for Hillary.
MMFA forgot to include reference to a public speech Clinton made in a university whose number I don't remember, prior to 2006.
A few days ago MMFA said that Hillary criticized Bush in both the Poughkeepsie Journal and said university.
This is important because Gerth and Van Nutty may get technical and stupid and say that the Poughkeepsie Journal is not a public place and an interview is not a speech.
SteveXP: seems a strange criteria for a proper candidate. I can see it for the Democratic side. As all of the Republican candidates, except maybe Paul, seem pro war, they are mostly out of the running for you.
An uncertain memory points at either Obama or Edwards then. Anyone else acceptable?
If I had my choice, I'd like to see Gore in the race. If I thought Kucinich could win, I'd be into him. Obama is good with me and Richardson seems interesting. I have some similar issues with Edwards as I did with Clinton regarding the war, but I think he is at least acknowledging his mistake. Clinton is not even on my list. I will not vote for her.
I think Gore would have a much better chance if he learned to focus on areas of agreement with regards to his global warming debate. Right now, he has been a major instrument of polarization, which is unfortunate, because I think he is very bright and the closest thing the US has had to a visionary in a long while.
but the only agreement with right wingers on the issue of global warming is if you agree it isn't happening.
Oops I guess Edwards doesn't make the cut either. Obama is a good choice as far as I can tell. It just seems kind of early to do this paticular choice. How bout Gore?
Okay...here's how I see all this crap. The Dems voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq because they were terrified of KKKRove and how he'd portray them in the usual GOP attack ads. The Dems were cowards. And rather than admit that they voted out of fear and expediency, all of them, with the exception of Edwards, are caught in this endless web of explanation, minutiae, justification, etc. They were cowards. They had no spine to debate of vote against the Moron's wishes. Over. Done. Get on with your political life. I'm not a fan of Hillary's, and all her gyrations over this one vote are distasteful to me. Why can't Dems be honest and then go on the attack for once? Sheesh
Speaking of people who can't be honest...
You mention "KKKRove".
Democrat Robert Byrd is the only member of congress who belonged to the KKK. No I don't care that he apologized. He's every bit the racist that your racist, race-baiting, poverty-pimping demagogues Sharpton and Jackson are.
My apologies for telling the truth, I know how upsetting that can be here at MMFA.
Or you could just vote for a candidate who's more interested in killing terrorists than whining about their rights in jail.
It's a shame the Dems have no such candidate.
It's a shame what happened to your brain.
Roger,
What a pitiful argument. I am really bored so I'll take your measly bait. Name one Democratic candidate who has indicated that it is more important to pay attention to incarcerated terrorists than it is to eliminate terrorist threats. Be specific or go lay down, your fleas are bothering me.
AC,
Go and find the congressional record for the votes on all major pieces of anti-terrorism legislation since 9/11.
Notice how many Democrats voted for them.
At that point, you'll get it.
(if not: were all those bills really that bad, or is there a disturbing pattern there...)
Come one Rog. You know better than that. You specifically indicated that there were Democrats who were more concerned about prisoners than killing terrorists. At least try not to be disingenious to yourself.
gee roger, bush isn't worried about killing bin ladin. he said he wasn't too concerned about him.
BRGHHHH. Still shaking the cobwebs out from those initial few posts. Is this something new where the paid shills show up Frist...first?
What I find revealing about the interview is that it omitted Hilary voted down an amendmant to the Use of Force Authorization which would have put a tighter leash on President Bush. This was a central theme of the NYT Mag article and absent in the interview.
Revealing about Mr. Getty...Gerth is that he is not new to the Hillary Clinton story as MMFA has noted exhaustively. For Mr. Gerth to omit Hillarys' prior authorization critique is disingenious.
I'll get out my Sharpie for the NYT Public Editor, the last guy left with such fan fare I'm not sure they appointed a new one.
Like Colin Powell said, THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB!!!!!!!!!
I am always deeply suspicious of "tell all" books that are published in the height of an election campaign. Where was this book back in 2004 or 2005? Why wait until she is in the midst of a presidential election campaign before releasing the volume? Could it be that the authors felt that it would sell better is they "told all" during a campaign? I also find it interesting and a tad questionable, that the wife of one of the authors is heavily involved in the Dodd campaign, who, as everyone knows, is running against Hillary.
Just for the record, I am not a Hillary supporter. But fair is fair.
This show by Russert made it very clear that he's a Republican operative. First, rehabilitate Colin Powell, who basically toed the line, whatever people are able to project on him. So, Powell is a good guy. Accept what he says. Okay, Rumsfeld or somebody really screwed up the war. But Ve Didn't Know!
On the other hand, Gerth is a dirty little weasel. The amazing thing is that this nasty piece of business is respected as a journalist by some. He's the poltical equivalent of Judith Miller. Of course, everything he says about Hillary feeds into the perception of her predeterminated role as "controlling bitch." Somehow, Limbaugh got inside the Times.
I think there's lots to criticize Hillary about. She may be too centrist for you, to much of a triangulator. She may be too much of a repeat of Bill, and maybe a genuinely new person, like Obama, or a non-Clinton, like Gore, could be better. Make that argument. Any "leftist" or "Democrat" who believes this crap is anything other than political target practice really should think about why you take your sense of reality from the Republican media. And NBC is almost all Republican. Look at MSNBC: who's their highest rated show, sometimes actually beating O'Reilly in the 18-54 demo. So what do they do? The put on Scarboro, low-rated, and Tucker!, also low-rated. They keep Glenn Beck on Headline News, and why? Nobody watches him. Dobbs, big ratings. Nobody watches Beck, but that's the guy they say is on for "the ratings." Why is that?
What a distortion of the facts!