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ABC's The Note concluded from Wash. Post profile that Clinton inner circle is "sometimes vicious"

June 21, 2007 12:35 pm ET

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The Note, ABC News' daily online tip sheet for political news, today described Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (NY) inner circle of senior advisers as "sometimes vicious." The attack was made while highlighting a June 21 Washington Post feature article on the cadre of women who advise Clinton. In linking to the article, The Note described the advisers as "the sometimes vicious, always discreet core of women who form Clinton's campaign brain trust."

Yet the Post article included no references of any kind to alleged "vicious" behavior by any of the Clinton advisers. Instead, the article -- headlined "Gatekeepers of Hillaryland" -- portrayed the women as successful, close-knit, hardworking, and loyal. Post staff writer Lois Romano wrote: "In an era when every hiccup finds its way into tell-all books, particularly where the Clintons are concerned, having a loyal and discreet campaign staff is a great advantage."

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    • Author by laplacian (June 21, 2007 12:44 pm ET)
         

      So political advisers are sometimes vicious.  What else is new?

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    • Author by mr. l (June 21, 2007 12:45 pm ET)
         

      A(lways) B(roadcasting) C(rap) would spin it the other way for republicant's... 'The Rudy inner circle is 'always ferocious' in their valient attempt to sway voters towards their fair and just cause...'

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      • Author by anotheramerican (June 21, 2007 1:10 pm ET)
           

        Hahaha... Go read the article. 

        Still, veteran operatives were bewildered by the ferocity with which the campaign attacked opponent Barack Obama and David Geffen after the Hollywood mogul publicly criticized Clinton and threw his support to Obama.

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        • Author by mr. l (June 21, 2007 1:18 pm ET)
             

          If you believe 'veteran operatives' are ever 'bewildered' in a presidential campaign, you are living in Marioland- no, not the old civic arena where Jagr and company made history...

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    • Author by MickD (June 21, 2007 12:49 pm ET)
         

      The Rovian-type Rangers could be the most vicious cabal in the post mass communication political era. If you don't respond in kind, you'd probably never win another election. The result, the precipitous lowering of standards and discourse.

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    • Author by yahavhis6653 (June 21, 2007 12:50 pm ET)
         

      "sometimes vicious."

      More than likely another attempt to make women look moody and unreliable . That time and all that. 

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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 21, 2007 12:51 pm ET)
         

      Wanting to know how Webster's defines 'vicious', I was surprised to see it's derived from the word 'vice'.

      VICIOUS:

      1 : having the nature or quality of vice or immorality : DEPRAVED2 : DEFECTIVE, FAULTY; also : INVALID3 : IMPURE, NOXIOUS4 a : dangerously aggressive : SAVAGE  b : marked by violence or ferocity : FIERCE 5 : MALICIOUS, SPITEFUL 6 : worsened by internal causes that reciprocally augment each other

      ...and without differentiating all the synonyms, I thought those synonyms were interesting still:

      synonyms VICIOUS, VILLAINOUS, INIQUITOUS, NEFARIOUS, CORRUPT, DEGENERATE mean highly reprehensible or offensive in character, nature, or conduct. VICIOUS may directly oppose virtuous in implying moral depravity, or may connote malignancy, cruelty, or destructive violence

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      • Author by anotheramerican (June 21, 2007 1:00 pm ET)
           

        Thanks for giving me a clearer understanding of Mrs. Clinton's inner circle. :-)

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        • Author by Dem02020 (June 21, 2007 4:05 pm ET)
             

          You're welcome.

          If you find that Webster's definitions of words grants you understanding in American politics, then you must still be in elementary school...

          ...happy to educate you, I am.

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          • Author by anotheramerican (June 21, 2007 4:40 pm ET)
               

            Nice try at the putdown but let me ask who was the one who felt the need to look it up in the first place?

            ;-) 

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            • Author by conleytgwinn (June 21, 2007 6:42 pm ET)
                 

              Just a bad habit, I'm sure, of seeing apparent incongruity, and verifying the truth.  Learned undoubtedly from arguing with really, really, dumb people, who don't share the same vocabulary as humans.

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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 21, 2007 5:09 pm ET)
           

        And virtuous, of course, comes from the Latin word for man.

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    • Author by worrierking (June 21, 2007 12:52 pm ET)
         

      Tommy, Tommy?

      Could someone please wake him up and tell him to pay attention?

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    • Author by CaseySpring (June 21, 2007 1:02 pm ET)
         

      t"he sometimes vicious, always discreet core of women who form Clinton's campaign brain trust."

      Now if that is not sexist, what is? If they were talking about Men, would they use the word vicious.

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      • Author by yahavhis6653 (June 21, 2007 1:09 pm ET)
           

        Exactly. In modern slang it is the word that most often comes before bitch.

        It was only a matter of time before they they would start to sink to women bashing to get rid of Hillary, and it is always better if that comes from the mouths of other women. 

        I do not like or want Hillary as president, but taking all women down a peg to accomplish this is going to be really bad for the nation. 

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    • Author by anotheramerican (June 21, 2007 1:04 pm ET)
         

      Ommmmm..... I'd think MMFA missed the best part of the article,"How many other campaigns have weekly yoga classes at headquarters?"

      hahaha.. now there's a stretch!  

       

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      • Author by magnolialover (June 21, 2007 1:14 pm ET)
           

        And that part of the article is relevant how?

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        • Author by anotheramerican (June 21, 2007 4:45 pm ET)
             

          You will have to come to a higher level of consciousness grasshopper in order to fully appreciate the relevance.

          Ommmm.....  ;-)  

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      • Author by yahavhis6653 (June 21, 2007 1:14 pm ET)
           

        Maybe if just a few more males in the USA did just a little yoga there would not be so many over thirty with flat and saggy butts.

        Keep America Beautiful 

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      • Author by pete592 (June 21, 2007 1:15 pm ET)
           

        "now there's a stretch!"

        No pun intended? 

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      • Author by princeofwheels (June 21, 2007 3:39 pm ET)
           

        Also missed,, how many times did Jeff Gannon visit his buddies late at night at the White House?  Not relevant but it is a question like yours.

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    • Author by conleytgwinn (June 21, 2007 1:51 pm ET)
         

      Invention is often the only ally of such silly liars. So, ABC continues the attempt to demolish Hillary (between rounds on Obama and Edwards) by portraying her as a (gasp) woman. She is therefore incompetent (much like Bungle), moody & given to irrational pique (again, not unlike Bungle).  At the very worst, though, that depiction, whether of Hillary or of her "braintrust", leaves her with more rational days than not; and Bungle unfortunately has none.

      I surely wish MORA were enacted, and some of those absorbed outlets were released back into the market.

      (Yeah, guys, I'm gonna link it - again - for the handles I haven't seen previously.) And, I still wish more emphasis on forced divestiture, less on Fairness Doctrine, for I cannot name the objective arbiter of whose BS is BS, and whose is merely minority opinion.

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    • Author by jeter2 (June 21, 2007 2:29 pm ET)
         

      Yet the Post article included no references of any kind to alleged "vicious" behavior by any of the Clinton advisers. Instead, the article -- headlined "Gatekeepers of Hillaryland"

      Where is Hillaryland?

      Is that like Disneyland?

      Or the island of Lemnos? :-O

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (June 21, 2007 3:30 pm ET)
           

        Hey Jeter, that's your de-pantsed Blitzer emoticon :-O.

        But I had to look up Lemnos. The things I learn here.Thanks.

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        • Author by jeter2 (June 21, 2007 4:06 pm ET)
             

          Ah Beach you're never gonna let me live that :-O down are ya?

          I should have left some info about *the island of Lemnos*

          So no one else needs to search it out:

          It's from the movie Jason and the Argonauts [it's also referred to in Greek Mythology]

          =====

          The Isle of Lemnos

          The isle of Lemnos is situated off the Western coast of Asia Minor (modern day Turkey). The island was inhabited by a race of women, who had killed their husbands. The women had neglected their worship of Aphrodite, and as a punishment the goddess made the women so foul in stench that their husbands couldn't bear to be near them. The men then took concubines from the Thracian mainland opposite, and the spurned women, naturally angry, killed every male inhabitant.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason

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    • Author by princeofwheels (June 21, 2007 3:36 pm ET)
         

      What a quandry these vicious women are bestowing upon us.

      If Sen. Clinton wins, these viciousians (new word?) will sharpen their swords and a want to do what viciousians do to men. If Sen. Clinton loses, those same viciouians will do what they do to men. I think their plans begin with sexist Republican men, so after that long list is wiped out, the swords will be too dull to get the rest of us. Be afraid of Hillary out there be very afraid.

      Who writes these articles?

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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (June 21, 2007 5:00 pm ET)
         

      I'll tell ya who writes them...

      Dirty, stinkin', filthy, vicious conservatives.

      You'd never hear a male presidential candidate referred to as vicious, especially a Republican candidate.

      The Con candidate is strong, a straight shooter; but also humble, and eager to worship the lord.  He's authentic, a humble giant from the red dirt.

      The democratic candidate is "vicious," and sneaky, and the religion is just an act. ...And so the narrative goes.

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    • Author by mefirst (June 21, 2007 7:43 pm ET)
         

      vicious is what the bush campaign did to mccain in south  carolina.

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      • Author by BushLied (June 22, 2007 9:09 am ET)
           

        And I may add well deserved. McCain is a warmonger just like Bush.

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        • Author by NotThatGeorge (June 22, 2007 12:19 pm ET)
             

          What the Bush campaign did to McCain in S Carolina was not well deserved.

          What Bush's campaign did was tell a dirty lie. They unfairly smeared McCain.

          If McCain has bad traits, and I don't deny that he has many, then fairly argue against them. McCain sucks, and would be a disaster for our nation as President. That being said, it doesn't justify lying about him.

          And, just a reminder, the unfair smears against McCain were before the Iraq War, numbskull, so it could not have been relevant.

          Nobody deserves to be smeared. Bad people can be denounced with their actual behavior. Neither bad people nor good people deserve to be denounced with unfair smears. 

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    • Author by oscar the grouch (June 21, 2007 7:53 pm ET)
         

      Viciious?  Are they all graduates of the Carville/Matalin School of Political Posturing? Could be an interesting 15 months.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (June 22, 2007 8:32 am ET)
         

      "sometimes vicious"...sounds like the Bush wives.  "Always discreet core of women".... Who doesn't like a discreet woman?

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