Politico uncritically quoted McCain aide accusing Dems of voting not to "fund the troops"
In a July 10 article examining the effect of the Iraq war on the 2008 presidential race, The Politico quoted Mark Salter, an adviser to the presidential campaign of Republican candidate Sen. John McCain (AZ), asserting, "It's one thing for (Democrats) to say, 'Get out,' or 'Redeploy,' or 'Divide the country into thirds' ... But it's another to say, 'We won't fund the troops.' That, I think, will be a pretty costly mistake in the general election. You had 150,000 troops in the country, and you voted not to resupply them with armor. ... Those things are easy to point out." Salter appeared to be criticizing those Democrats, who, on May 24, voted against a war funding bill that did not include a binding timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. The Politico did not note, however, that McCain himself recently voted against an emergency spending bill that funded the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That bill passed the Senate by a vote of 51-47 on March 29 and was reconciled in conference with a similar House version. Bush ultimately vetoed the bill on May 2, citing its provision for a withdrawal timetable.
This is not the first time the media have quoted McCain or his staff attacking Democrats for their votes against one of the Iraq war funding bills without noting McCain's own vote against a war funding bill. As Media Matters for America noted, both the Associated Press' Liz Sidoti and NBC News congressional correspondent Chip Reid uncritically quoted from McCain's May 25 statement criticizing Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL) for voting against the version of the funding bill that did not include a timetable for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. Neither Sidoti nor Reid noted McCain's March 29 vote.
From the July 10 Politico article by senior political writer David Paul Kuhn:
Democrats are heading into the 2008 election with what, at first glance, looks to be a historic opportunity: For the first time in decades, they are facing Republicans on terms of rough parity -- and possibly even superiority -- on national security issues. Polls show the public trusts Democrats as much as or more than Republicans to keep the country safe, a dramatic reversal from President Bush's first term.
These numbers may mean that Democrats have vanquished the ghost of the Vietnam era, when liberal activists won the debate about ending the war but, in the process, gave the party a reputation among many voters for being too dovish to lead on a dangerous planet.
But some political analysts say they believe the McGovern experience could be repeated again, as the party's presidential candidates compete to win the favor of anti-war Democrats while leaving themselves vulnerable to charges of weakness in a general election.
This uncertainty is one reason the leading Democratic candidates are trying to run as hawk and dove simultaneously. Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.), for instance, are both moving rhetorically and substantively against the Iraq war while calling for an increased military presence to fight terrorists in Afghanistan.
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As far back as the Eisenhower years, Gallup was recording consistent preferences for Republicans on military issues.
But if the mood of the country has changed, Democrats are plainly still laboring to project that opposition to Bush's handling of the Iraq war -- most polls show the public agrees with them -- does not mean they are uncomfortable with military force.
Republicans are banking that this is a distinction Democrats cannot sustain and that votes by Clinton and Obama to defund the war effort would damage either one as a general election nominee. A similar vote by 2004 Democratic nominee Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) -- while former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean pressed Kerry from the anti-war base -- combined with his inept public explanations, shadowed him through the general election.
"It's one thing for (Democrats) to say, 'Get out,' or 'Redeploy,' or 'Divide the country into thirds,'" said Mark Salter, a counselor to the presidential campaign of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). "But it's another to say, 'We won't fund the troops.' That, I think, will be a pretty costly mistake in the general election.
"You had 150,000 troops in the country, and you voted not to resupply them with armor," Salter added. "Those things are easy to point out."















the leading Democratic candidates are trying to run as hawk and dove simultaneously. Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.), for instance, are both moving rhetorically and substantively against the Iraq war while calling for an increased military presence to fight terrorists in Afghanistan.
...aaaaaAAAAAAUUUUUUGHHHHHH!!!!!!
These two handfulls of my own hair will attest to the frustration I feel when professional journalists are relegated to using logic like the above.
That's pretty wishy-washy flip-floppy stuff- making two different judgements about two different situations.
That's the sort of "thinking" that gets confusing around voting time.Just pick an ideology and stick with it !
Where have all the real warmongers and peaceniks gone?
They may have been unreasonable, but at least we - and more importantly, the journalists - knew where they stood.
The better question is...Where have all the journalists gone? When corporate interests dictate what is or is not shown to the 'news' consuming public... that's fascism. We're in it now.
Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.), for instance, both moving rhetorically and substantively against the Iraq war while calling for an increased military presence to fight terrorists in Afghanistan
Well seeing that Afghanistan is the only place we should have been all along and Bush's detour into Iraq was a colossal blunder, I'd have to say Clinton & Obama have got the right idea here.
Right, there's no hypocricy in evidence here, unless you will yourself to invent it before your very eyes.
I had such high hopes for Politico, now I dont remember why. I'm not excited about the arrival of POTUS 08 on XM Radio, because I'm certain it's going to be just another right-wing vehicle to prop up the GOP candidates and do a hatchet job on the Dems, regardless of what the commercials are telling me about it's "nonpartisanship." I guess I'm just jaded.
Sure, Jeter, because you suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome and are a liberal moonbat campaigning simultaneouslly for HC and BO.
They still want to keep large US ground forces in Iraq, they talk tough about Iran, they have no sunshine policy towards North Korea. Yeah, they support keeping US troops in the front lines, dying for the Empire. They'll fund that.
mmfa proves in this thread that they are just as guilty of dishonesty as the rest of the media harpies.
The debate has never been about "not funding" the troops. To blatantly post that John McCain...of all people...voted against funding the troops is lunacy. Democrats want out of Iraq and republicans want to stay and finish...that is the argument.
This is all inside the beltway political pandering by mmfa...out of touch with the public...but having a hell of a good time promoting their media catfights.
It doesn't appear that you understand the point.
McCain's aide is claiming that Obama and Clinton were voting against funding the troops, while it is also true that McCain has also voted against troop funding bills. As we should all know by now, a senator may vote against one version and for another, depending upon the language and amendments.
I understand very clearly...the point.
The point is not about funding the troops...it's about pulling out of Iraq or not...all wrangled by politicians under the guise of "funding the troops".
mmfa fuels the fire by reporting such idiocy as claiming that McCain voted not to fund the troops:
- McCain himself recently voted against an emergency spending bill that funded the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. - mmfa
Politicians...on both sides...should say they are for staying in Iraq or pulling out...but don't hide behind phony excuses like adding pork and timelines.
The portrayal of McCain as against funding the troops is a shallow game of political gotcha by mmfa.
No it isnt. Not in the context of McCain claiming the same thing about Dems who did EXACTLY the same thing he did. That is voting for a funding bill based on THEIR beliefs concerning the war.
I plainly said both sides were guilty...and used McCain as an example.
Playing political games with our troops funding is cowardly and shameful.
They should stand...and be counted...get the hell out or stay and finish. That should be the confines of the debate...not with political tricks used on a highway bill.
no no no. You do not understand what MM is saying! They are not faulting McCain for voting against a funding bill. They are pointing out that the McCain aide is being disingenuous and the reporter did not point that out.
Then you plainly said THIS
The portrayal of McCain as against funding the troops is a shallow game of political gotcha by mmfa. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No it isnt it is pointing out McCains hypocrisy for the reason I stated.