Blitzer did not challenge Lieberman's assertion that U.S. forces in Iraq are fighting "Al Qaeda"
During an interview with Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) on the July 10 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer did not challenge Lieberman's numerous assertions that the U.S. military in Iraq is fighting "Al Qaeda," thus allowing Lieberman to conflate, as the Bush administration has done, the Sunni insurgent group "Al Qaeda in Iraq" with the group responsible for the 9-11 attacks. Blitzer could have pointed out that such assertions have been "rejected" by "U.S. military and intelligence officials," according to McClatchy Newspapers. A June 28 McClatchy article reported that these officials "say that Iraqis with ties to al Qaida are only a small fraction of the threat to American troops" and that "[t]he group known as al Qaida in Iraq didn't exist before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, didn't pledge its loyalty to al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden until October 2004 and isn't controlled by bin Laden or his top aides." Moreover, Blitzer failed to note that Lieberman's description of the enemy in Iraq as "Al Qaeda" echoes a rhetorical strategy that New York Times public editor Clark Hoyt documented in his July 8 column: "As domestic support for the war in Iraq continues to melt away, President Bush and the United States military in Baghdad are increasingly pointing to a single villain on the battlefield: Al Qaeda." Hoyt wrote that this strategy has "political advantages" because the group "is an enemy Americans understand."
Blitzer also failed to challenge Lieberman's claim that "if we don't win" in Iraq, "they come after us back here at home." As Media Matters for America has repeatedly noted, several news outlets have recently reported that security and terrorism experts have challenged the view that terrorists in Iraq will attack Americans inside the United States if U.S. troops withdraw.
During the interview, Lieberman referred to the enemy the U.S. military faces in Iraq as "Al Qaeda" on four separate occasions. Lieberman told Blitzer that "we've got the enemy, Al Qaeda, on the run" in Iraq; that "Iraq falls apart" if "Iran and Al Qaeda win"; that tribal leaders in Iraq have "decided that Al Qaeda really is their enemy" and that the United States is in Iraq "to stop Iran and Al Qaeda."
Yet Blitzer did not challenge Lieberman's assertions despite a number of recent reports from media outlets disputing the notion that "Al Qaeda in Iraq" or "Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia" is linked to the terrorist group responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington, D.C., on September 11, 2001.
For example, the June 28 McClatchy article noted that Bush's description of Al Qaeda as "the main enemy" in Iraq was "rejected by his administration's senior intelligence analysts":
Facing eroding support for his Iraq policy, even among Republicans, President Bush on Thursday called al Qaida "the main enemy" in Iraq, an assertion rejected by his administration's senior intelligence analysts.
The reference, in a major speech at the Naval War College that referred to al Qaida at least 27 times, seemed calculated to use lingering outrage over the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to bolster support for the current buildup of U.S. troops in Iraq, despite evidence that sending more troops hasn't reduced the violence or sped Iraqi government action on key issues.
Bush called al Qaida in Iraq the perpetrator of the worst violence racking that country and said it was the same group that had carried out the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington.
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U.S. military and intelligence officials, however, say that Iraqis with ties to al Qaida are only a small fraction of the threat to American troops. The group known as al Qaida in Iraq didn't exist before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, didn't pledge its loyalty to al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden until October 2004 and isn't controlled by bin Laden or his top aides.
Following Hoyt's column, the Times similarly explained in a July 9 article that the relationship between the two groups has not been wholly substantiated, reporting that "Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia [is] a Sunni Arab extremist group that claims to have an affiliation with Osama bin Laden's network, though the precise relationship is unknown." Additionally, the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post have published recent articles that distinguish between the two groups. From a July 10 AP article:
Al-Qaeda in Iraq emerged several years ago under the leadership of Abu Musa[b] al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian radical who was killed last year in a U.S. airstrike in Diyala. The Iraqi chapter's relationship to the network led by Osama bin Laden remains a topic of debate among experts.
On July 11, the Los Angeles Times devoted an article to Bush's conflation of Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda in Iraq:
By describing the U.S. effort in Iraq largely as a struggle against Al Qaeda, President Bush on Tuesday reached for a familiar -- but widely questioned -- way of defining the war.
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Insurgents affiliated with the group that calls itself Al Qaeda in Iraq have been involved in many attacks in that country. But the CIA, Pentagon and other experts have debated the group's role in Iraq and its ties to Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
From a July 11 Washington Post article:
In his speech, Bush once again conflated two organizations, al-Qaeda in Iraq and the international network led by Osama bin Laden, saying that the same group that attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, is responsible for much of the violence in Iraq. While the Iraq militants are inspired by bin Laden, intelligence analysts say the Iraqi group is composed overwhelmingly of Iraqis and does not take direction from bin Laden.
From the July 10 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:
BLITZER: As the Bush administration prepares to give a progress report in the coming days on its Iraq strategy, some senators are stepping up their push for a pullout. One measure demands that a withdrawal start in 120 days or so. Another would require U.S. troops to spend as much time at home as they do in combat.
Independent Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut calling these amendments "untimely, unwise, and unfair." He's joining us now live from Capitol Hill.
Senator, thanks for coming in.
LIEBERMAN: Good to be with you, Wolf. Thank you.
BLITZER: I listened carefully to your remarks today and over the past few days. And one line sort of jumps out at us, when we hear you say we're winning in Iraq right now. You know a lot of people don't believe that.
LIEBERMAN: Yeah, and I understand that. And what I mean is that we've got the enemy, Al Qaeda, on the run. We've chased them out of Anbar Province, where they were gonna create the capital for the Islamist Republic of Iraq. We've chased them now to Diyala. All of this possible because of the surge forces that we have -- the extra troops at General [David] Petraeus' command. And we've reduced -- our troops have reduced the deaths from sectarian violence.
So, the momentum, I believe, has switched in the direction of the coalition and Iraqi security forces.
But this is a war, Wolf, and the enemy is doing what an enemy would do. And this is an unbelievably, unconventionally cruel enemy. It's blowing itself up in increasing numbers in these dramatic suicide bombings, which are aimed at creating more sectarian violence and, frankly, they're aimed at affecting American public opinion and trying to urge the American people to get us out of the war.
BLITZER: When I played the sound bite of you saying the U.S. has the U.S. has the enemy on the run and the U.S. is winning to Senator Jim Webb [D] of Virginia in the last hour, he suggested that it's sort of these tactical victories that he personally saw happen in Vietnam, when he was a Marine during the Vietnam War. But big picture, it's by no means looking very good right now.
LIEBERMAN: Well, I don't agree with that, respectfully. And I appreciate what Jim said. It is a -- and we are achieving some tactical victories now. And I don't think it's over by any means.
But what I'm saying is it's moving in the right direction, and that's why this is such an unfair and inappropriate time to be mandating a retreat. I mean, that would be basically legislating defeat when we still have a chance to win, and I think you only want to do that if you don't think it's worth winning. I think it's worth winning and fighting to win, because if we don't, Iran and Al Qaeda win. Iraq falls apart; the Middle East is in chaos; and they come after us back here at home.
I think it's -- we have a chance to turn this around. And shame on us if Congress, from here, legislates a defeat that our military will never allow to happen over there.
BLITZER: The -- so much of this depends on cooperation and fortitude on behalf of the Iraqis themselves -- the Iraqi government, the Iraqi military. Senator [John] Warner [R-VA] introduced legislation that's now a law -- 18 of these so-called benchmarks on -- to make sure the Iraqis are doing what they're supposed to be doing. And in the coming days, the Bush administration has to report to you -- to Congress -- on whether they're actually implementing, living up to these benchmarks.
Early indications are, Senator, they are not.
You must be disappointed in the government and the Iraqi military, that they're simply not doing what they should be doing.
LIEBERMAN: I am disappointed, but the picture is mixed. It's not all bleak. There's a lot of goodwill over there on the part of the Iraqi leadership and they're working hard to try to get some of the legislation passed which will show that they are beginning to reconcile their differences.
I'll tell you one of the most exciting and encouraging things I saw over in Iraq on my last visit, about a month ago, was not at the high government level, but there are district councils that are being formed by people all over Iraq, that are a kind of a self-governing, grassroots-up experience. And of course, the movement of a lot of tribal leaders, which have a lot of clout there, in our direction, because they've decided that Al Qaeda really is their enemy. That's encouraging, too.
But look, we're there to stop Iran and Al Qaeda. But we're also there to provide some stability and security, in which the Iraqi government has to take hold of its own destiny. And to the extent that they've not done that yet, of course it's disappointing. And we've got to do everything we can to pressure them to do better.
BLITZER: You caused a stir in recent days by suggesting -- and I'm paraphrasing -- that the U.S. should consider, if necessary, bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. A lot of people were alarmed by that. But tell us precisely what you have in mind.















Hoyt says Al Qaeda "is an enemy Americans understand". I don't think so. I don't think most Americans have a clue about Al Qaeda. To many, it is simply a vague looming threat, an omnipresent undefined boogeyman darkening our horizon and waiting to bomb our schoolchildren as soon as we pull out of Iraq. In short, it is simply the "fear" the righties are constantly "mongering".
Where was all this "follow us home" bull**** before the invasion?
And yet he is right once you take into account the doctrinaire definition. You are pretty much correct and that means al Queda is the enemy the public understands, in the way that the rightwing WANTS them to understand them
Poor Joe. He sounds more delusional with each passing day. I saw a clip of him giving a speech on the Senate floor about Iraq, and he seems to be just going through the motions. I don't think that even he believes this nonsense any more.
It's almost enough to make one happy that the Republicans stole the 2000 elections.
Maybe MMFA should correct Al Qaeda.
According to them, they are fighting us in Iraq.
In what numbers?
What is your source?
And why are you trusting the enemy to tell you the truth?
Oooh, another mysterious posting from copiousdissent, that does nothing to advance the discussion.
Why should we fear Al Qaeda?
Ask Great Britain.
So al Qaeda's fighting Great Britain in....Iraq?
Yes, ask Great Britain if fighting the Iraq war made them safe from terror. And then try to tell them that they were fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq so they didn't have to fight them on their trains.
The Assertion Al Qaeda Is In Iraq Must Be Challenged
President Bush has his back against the wall. 70% of Americans want him to pull the troops out of Iraq, yet Bush has found it necessary to avoid the voice of his people. Why? It has always been about oil, and other factors.
Wolf Blitzer is not the only one unwilling to challenge this claim Al Qaeda in Iraq is our main enemy in Iraq. I have scene this coming and posted many comments and has written my concerns months ago in my blog. When Bush broadcast this attempt to create Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Democrats focused on the wrong talking point. They used Bush's acknowledgment of Al Qaeda in Iraq to make the point Al Qaeda was not their before we got there. The Democrats actually help Bush make this claim Al Qaeda is in Iraq, and they don't seem to have gotten a clue they are being used to keep our troops in Iraq.
Bush introduced the Al Qaeda in Iraq shortly after the American surge. Bush knew, to gain any progress in a civil war atmosphere, he would have to eliminate one side of the civil conflict. Enter "Al Qaeda in Iraq." Bush knows every American has a "bone to pick" with Al Qaeda after 9/11. In one move, Bush was able to protect the oil interest for his big money supporters, and, at the same time, create a way to eliminate one side of the factions fighting in Iraq's civil conflict. The side he chose to make Al Qaeda is the Sunnis.
Lastly, there is a constant claim, from the right, there is no evidence Bush has did any thing to warrant impeachment. Lying to keep our troops in Iraq cost American lives, innocent Iraqi civilian lives, and Sunni lives. If that is not an impeachable offense, what is?
Joseph
What a bunch of hooey. We all know we have multiple enemies in Iraq depending on the day including Sunnis, Al Quaeda and Shiite militias.
You claim we are not fighting Al Quaeda yet their presence is so strong that now Sunnis are trying to drive them out because the Sunnis don't want a Taliban style Islam. There are multiple media reports weekly of Al Quaeda providing bomb expertise. I don't know why you continue to deny this, I guess just your Chimpy McHalliburton hatred of Bush.
From the "horses" mouth:
But after his 2004 re-election was secure, even the President acknowledged that "Al Qaeda" was the smallest component of the "enemies" we are fighting in Iraq:
A clear strategy begins with a clear understanding of the enemy we face. The enemy in Iraq is a combination of rejectionists, Saddamists and terrorists. The rejectionists are by far the largest group. These are ordinary Iraqis, mostly Sunni Arabs, who miss the privileged status they had under the regime of Saddam Hussein -- and they reject an Iraq in which they are no longer the dominant group. . . .
The second group that makes up the enemy in Iraq is smaller, but more determined. It contains former regime loyalists who held positions of power under Saddam Hussein -- people who still harbor dreams of returning to power. These hard-core Saddamists are trying to foment anti-democratic sentiment amongst the larger Sunni community. . . .
The third group is the smallest, but the most lethal: the terrorists affiliated with or inspired by al Qaeda.
What a bunch of hooey. We all know we have multiple enemies in Iraq depending on the day including Sunnis, Al Qaeda and Shiite militias. leatherhelmet / Wednesday July 11, 2007 10:09:26 PM EST I know I am wasting my time telling you it is propaganda Al Qaeda is even a significant force in Iraq. Ask yourself: Have you ever scene an Al Qaeda fighter? Why is the only communication from such a "significant" force limited to three taped speeches a year?Al Qaeda in Iraq is a way for Bush and his generals to eliminate one side of the civil conflict in Iraq. Eliminating one side is the only way the US can be win in Iraq. This is sad because it means many will die for this lie. As I write this post, COL. Terry Ferrell is on Washington Journal filling the airways with this claim that the Sunni fighting groups are under the umbrella of Al Qaeda establishing networks to fight and kill American soldiers.If this lie is not checked, innocent people will die, and our president will be guilty of a form of genocide. I hope you do not join the armed forces and are caught up in this kind of killing. Joseph
Yep, once again "We All Know" something that we don't all know, because it simply isn't true.
A big problem here is that CNN and the other News Channels have blood on their hands, having been huge cheerleaders and enablers of this tragic, misguided policy, so they grasp at any shred of evidence that they were justified in their disgusting promotion of this needless, less-than-worthless bloodletting.
What a bunch of hooey. We all know we have multiple enemies in Iraq depending on the day including Sunnis, Al Qaeda and Shiite militias. leatherhelmet / Wednesday July 11, 2007 10:09:26 PM EST (Corrected)
I know I am wasting my time telling you it is propaganda Al Qaeda is even a significant force in Iraq. Ask yourself: Have you ever scene an Al Qaeda fighter? Why is the only communication from such a "significant" force limited to three taped speeches a year?
Al Qaeda in Iraq is a way for Bush and his generals to eliminate one side of the civil conflict in Iraq. Eliminating one side is the only way the US can be win in Iraq. This is sad because it means many will die for this lie. As I write this post, COL. Terry Ferrell is on Washington Journal filling the airways with this claim that the Sunni fighting groups are under the umbrella of Al Qaeda establishing networks to fight and kill American soldiers.
If this lie is not checked, innocent people will die, and our president will be guilty of a form of genocide. I hope you do not join the armed forces and are caught up in this kind of killing.
Joseph
The alternative universe that you lefties live in on this jihad stuff never ends. I don’t know what it will take short of a bomb that kills a bunch of folks standing nearby you, leaving you intact and finally propelled into reality. Al Qaeda schmalkyeeda! Call ‘em whatever you want: Islamists, militant jihadists, Islamofascists, the aim is the same: converting the world to Islam by any means necessary. Sure, the Shiites want to dominate ahead of the Sunni-Wahhabis, but the means to the end and the end result is the same as far as we infidels are concerned.
Have you forgotten the dozens of attacks around the world prior to and the dozens since 9/11? Do the words “Madrid bombings”, “London bombings”, “Bali bombing” mean anything to you? Who gives a damn how long it took Al Qeada to take over the insurgent action in Iraq? They’re in charge of it now. Yes. In Iraq.
Get a clue and get with the program. Do you want to win this war or are you happy to see our spineless fellow infidels in Europe go down the tubes with us following? YOU are part of the problem.
Who gives a damn how long it took Al Qeada to take over the insurgent action in Iraq? They’re in charge of it now.
No, they're not. Good day.
This Is The Real World
I see you have taken a universal hatred stance that insures the total elimination of anything you would call Islamic because you feel they have bombed us on 9/11. Well, one thing is for sure, you will get to those who brought down the towers by a series of elimination. I know it does not matter to you as long as we get the killing done.
You and your theory are flawed at the root, and be sure you are not becoming everything you would consider terrorist. Your hatred comes through my computer, and I will be washing my screen off as symbol of disagreement. Have a nice day.
Joseph
Joseph, Really!
You saw an expression of hatred in my post? Incredible. It was an alarm. I’m trying to get someone on your side of the political spectrum to wake up and see the Islamist threat for what it is.
What “theory”? I’m stating the facts. At least you admit that they did attack us on 9/11. Do you deny the facts I’ve posted regarding other Islamist attacks? If so, then you’ve only earned my comment that you on the left are part of the problem.
Get a clue and get with the program. Do you want to win this war or are you happy to see our spineless fellow infidels in Europe go down the tubes with us following? YOU are part of the problem.- old marine
Get with the “program“? Would that be “stay the course”? Would that be the “program” that has been soooo successful? How would you define “winning”? How long will it take us to “win”(we have been there 4 years already)? How many more American lives are you willing to put on the line? Where will we get the troops to continue this fight from? Are you willing to institute the draft?
If there had not been so many lies about the reasons for war, our success and more truthfulness about our lack of success maybe more would be willing to “stay the course”. But you don’t and you won’t not because of “spinless” but because of lies. You have lied and continue to lie about every aspect of the war and yet you want to continue to put American lives on the line while you lie.
You tell us to get with the “program” but the “program” is not working. We don’t want to lose any more lives to a "program" that’s not working and you don’t have the ba**s to change or the ba**s to admit that the "program" is not working .
At least you admit that "they" did attack us on 9/11 - OldFart
Who is "they" that you are referring too. The 9-11 Hi-jackers?? Ok... do you have any idea where they came from??? Why of course not... I can tell you it wasn't from Iraq, but alas all that falls on deaf ears. The space in your brain is so tiny, it only has room for neo-con catch phrases like islamofacists, if we don't fight 'em there they'll follow us here, Al Quaeda, victory in iraq, cut and run, etc... Maybe if you learn to think for yourself and look at the facts of a given situation... ohh well its not use... facts have a liberal bias... too bad for you!
DTRAIN, As a certified “OldFart” with an alleged tiny brain, let me acquaint you with the terminology as we don’t seem to be communicating: “Islamist” is a term which has long been applied to those Muslims who have as there goal the establishment of Islam is not only the one and only authoritative religion of the world but (in keeping with Islamic fundamentals) the governing force in the world, i.e the religion and the government are essentially one and the same (Try “The Middle East - a Brief History of the Last Two Thousand Years” by Bernard Lewis). Islamo-fascist is a fairly new term applied to an Islamist. Same for militant Muslim or militant Islam. Yup. If we don’t defeat them in the Middle East, they will assuredly be here. They’re already the dominant virule political force in most of Europe. That’s the reason the Europeans continue to appease them politically and societally. As was so well demonstrated in World War II, peace only follows total victory. These are facts you could easily apprise yourself of if you’d just make the effort.
A religion as a dominating governing force in the world- wow, that IS scary! Only Islamofascist muslims could come up with idea that governments should be subservient to religion!
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go watch my tape of the last GOP debate, where the candidates argue over which one is the most Christian.
Oh, the slings and arrows from the left. Why mess with the issue when you can make points with your buds on this forum by verbally skewering your common opponents with imagined quotes and crystal ball insights: this is what he’d say if he really wanted to, this is what he really means, pay no attention to what he actually said, he’s a right wing scum bag. I don’t know him but he doesn’t agree with us, so he must be a scumbag.
Fine. After having posted on this forum off and on for a couple (three?) months, I no longer find the level of acrimony and outright hatred surprising. And you folks wonder why we on the right think you are all becoming loonier and loonier on a weekly basis.
But, PEARLINE, in your post, you pose some good questions. Here goes:
“program” = the current war on militant Islamic governments and groups attempting to be engaged in by the current U.S. administration. I have to say “attempting” because, as I’ve said before, it’s a two-front war: the Islamists on the one hand and the American left on the other - as exemplified by the behavior of mostly Democrat, but including a few Republican congressmen and other prominent political spokesmen.
“Winning” = totally breaking the will of the enemy, in this case both the Islamists and the Western world political left, to carry on the struggle.
So, let me ask you a couple of questions:
What “lie” do you claim I have told?
Do you agree that militant Islam (or the Islamists, or the Islamofascists, whatever name makes the most sense to you) is at war with America?
If so, do you think we should:
a) capitulate or
b) win?
If you pick “win”, how would you propose to do this other than putting the lives of American patriots on the line?
No, they're not in charge of Iraq. Al-Qaeda is ONLY affiliated with an extremist group in Anbar province that is very disliked by the locals. It's one of the smallest Sunni militias in Iraq. Zawahiri must be funding them somehow but their campaign isn't going well. They're not winning.
How can you fight the enemy if you don't know where he is?
I pretty much agree with you on that, REDKING.
I’d add to it by saying that there are two major factions in charge in Iraq: Al Qaeda consisting of Sunni-Wahabbi, funded at the source of the funding by the Saudis, and the rest of the Islamofascists, mostly Shiite/Hizbollah but including plenty of Arabs/Palestinians from all over who supply a lot of the cannon fodder for the suicide bombings - and funded at the source of the funding by Iran, which also supplies the dreaded U.S. soldier-killing EFP (explosively formed penetrator).
You fight them better with good intelligence, which we are getting more and more of as the average Iraqi citizen comes to know that the Iraqi government and the U.S./coalition forces can be increasingly depended on.
No. They’re not winning on the battlefield. But they’re winning in a more important arena: American public opinion. Thanks to the Democrats, a few RINO’s and a greatly left-wing biased media, all of whom have political power as their number one priority, the outcome is dicey.
REDKING, By way of update, I hear that Al Qaeda is being accommodated to a certain extent by Iran, although I think the Iranians will be keeping a close eye on them. No doubt, it’s the old maxim in action “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
Wow, written like a true devotee of Spencer Hughes, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, etc. You truly are clueless. If you lived in Germany in 1933, you'd be on some streetcorner ranting that "the Commies burned the Reichstag building, they want to take over the WORLD! They want to KILL US! Get with the PROGRAM, people!"
Do you ever leave your house? You sure don't do any reading. "Islamofascist?" "They want to convert the world to Islam?" Whatever, dude. I'm glad I don't have to live in your little paranoid fantasy.
Ouch. What a horrible thought. I like to think if I’d been in Berlin prior to 1933, I’d have long since concluded that it was too late to turn this socialist plunge around and would have skeedaddled to England. BTW, the Commies did want to take over the world. Remember the cold war? They’re still around in Cuba, Venezuela, and the PRC, just hoping that the jihad remains an American problem. A couple of quotes you may want to ponder: 1) “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.” - Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah
2) ” ‘Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life. Islam guides Muslims from birth to grave. The Quran and prophet Muhammad’s words and practical application of Quran in life cannot be changed.
"Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgment. It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it. "Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims; it is the supreme law of God."Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality."
- Nazra Quraishi, Kindergarten Teacher, in the Lansing State Journal (Michigan), July 5, 2006” I mentioned the book by Bernard Lewis. So am I to understand that you don’t believe there is such a person as an Islamist or that it is the intent of such to subjugate the world under Islamic law? As for the insults, you know where you can shove them.funnily enough the only people i have ever heard that muslims want to take over the world bit from are americans
Congratulations, OldMarine .. you've successfully memorized a nice set of right-wing talking points.
Answer me this tho: How many of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Iraqis?
SPORTSGUYDAVE, Thanks for the compliment.
Answer to your question: Zero
- and your point would be...?