Still more Carlson on Obama: "[W]hy has Barack Obama suddenly turned into Oprah?"
On the July 12 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, host Tucker Carlson teased an upcoming segment on the New Hampshire book clubs Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) presidential campaign recently established by saying: "Well, everybody knows that a book club is no place for a man. So why has Barack Obama suddenly turned into Oprah? [Producer] Willie Geist rounds up the girls, brings the chardonnay, and heads to the Oprah book club -- or the Obama book club -- when we come back." Carlson's suggestion that Obama's book clubs are "no place for a man" is merely the latest manifestation of Carlson's apparent fixation on Obama, this time with an explicit reference to Obama's masculinity. As Media Matters for America documented, Carlson recently referred to Obama's "rhetoric" as "kind of wimpy" and said that Obama "seems like kind of a wuss." Carlson also said that Obama "sounds like a pothead."
During the segment, Carlson discussed the book clubs with Geist, who claimed that "Obama has violated the trust of men everywhere," and said: "It makes you wonder what he won't compromise of himself. Are we going to have mani/pedi parties next? You know what I mean?"
From the July 12 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:
CARLSON: Well, everybody knows that a book club is no place for a man. So why has Barack Obama suddenly turned into Oprah? Willie Geist rounds up the girls, brings the chardonnay, and heads to the Oprah book club -- or the Obama book club -- when we come back.
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GEIST: All right now, Tucker, we've got to talk about something here. I thought we men had an understanding -- in fact, I didn't even know it had to be said out loud -- we don't join book clubs, and we sure as hell don't organize them, for crying out loud. Senator Barack Obama has violated the trust of men everywhere by doing just that. His campaign kicked off an Obama book club in New Hampshire this week. It's called "From Doubt to Hope: Discover Barack in his Own Words." Eighty-five people showed up at the first meeting on Tuesday night. So what's this week's book, you ask? Well, Dreams from My Father. Yes, Barack Obama's own memoir was the first book.
Turns out all the books in the club are about Obama. Not kidding. The meetings include conference calls with influential figures in Senator Obama's life. I don't know where to begin. Not only are you a man starting a book club, you're starting a self-serving book club.
CARLSON: You know, Willie, I would laugh too, but when Oprah launched her magazine, I was in the magazine business. And someone told me, "You know what? Every month they're going to have a picture of Oprah."
GEIST: That's right.
CARLSON: And I said, "That is so solipsistic. That's -- that's crazy. That'll never work."
GEIST: No.
CARLSON: And now it outsells Newsweek, practically, right? So this will work. That's my guess.
GEIST: It makes you wonder what he won't compromise of himself. Are we going to have mani/pedi parties next? You know what I mean?
Yeah, books are for women and homos. Real men like Tucker have no use for all that wussy crap that they put in books.
Yeah,
A two-bit, chicken hawk snot like Carlson don't need no books.
I can't believe this piece of feces is allowed on our nation's airwaves.
I could figure out by the context that a mani/pedi is a manicure/pedicure party, but the fact that the producer knew the term, and was aware that there are parties of that type...
Waaay more wussy than a book club.
REAL men go to book clubs, 'cause that's where all the broads are.
I gotta add that, while there are lots of broads - barefoot, no less - at mani/pedi parties, they're usually yakkin' too much, and you can't pretend like you're sensitive.
I know it's asking a lot....but can someone close to Tucker please beat the hell out of him in public and take his rug. I'm sure it won't take much to have this pussy crying.
Tucker is still the bow tie wearing geek we all learned to loath from "Crossfire". As Jon Stewart once so elequantly put to Tucker's face, "You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."
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carlson recently changed. He upgraded himself from a jerk to a complete a..hole. Thats what I call predestined metamorphosis.
For quite a long time, Tucker's been just inches away from being an effete faggoty liberal, what with those bow ties and his use of words like "solipsistic." I think he's projecting.
I love men who read books. I love smart men. Smart men are sexy. Does that mean sexy men read books?
In Tucker's world men lift all the heavy objects OVER THEIR HEADS and the women do the girly book reading.
....and according to Tucker real men go to prostitutes when they are away from their wives. He was actually defending Vitter’s extra congressional activities on the Dan Abrahams show the other night. Tucker said this is what happens when men are away from their families. He said this is just how men are..
I think Tucker's misogyny is showing.
Dammit tuckie..."Zip It Up!"
Yeah Lynn, I'd like to try that line out on my wife...
I think she'd hit me over the head...with a book ;-)
Yea, he keeps harping on this. I would love to see his name pop up on that list.
You may wait awhile for Tucker's name to appear on a "sexual services" list.
You see, SOME self-described "real men" acheive their orgasms by sending OTHER men into battle to die. It's called "bloodlust", and it has all the elements of a sexual relationship marked by dominance.
There is force and power (to send these people into harm's way), there is watching the field of battle (voyeurism), there is the CLIMAX ... when the actual killing and dying takes place.
Political machismo is the foreplay.
To defend this sexual perversion, these "real men" accuse those who do not gain their erections by enjoying battlefield mayhem as being "with the enemy". Of course, the "enemy" of "real men" includes WOMEN, who are dainty and read books and expect silly things like faithfulness.
The vital element of this construction for the sexual release of "real men" on a regular basis is that THEY THEMSELVES are never in harm's way. Never take up arms, never spill their OWN blood. Cheney and Limbaugh, Carlson and Bush all agree ... it's a real get-your-rocks-off THRILL to have a WAR going on. It's tasty to watch those firm young bodies blown to bits.
[link to www.crooksandliars.com] 14, 13th item about Cindy Sheehan. Yup, this guy is another "real man" loving that death and destruction.
Well I'm a reader.
My wife used to be in a Book Club, she'd let me pick out a few for myself.
So I guess that makes me only sort of a wimp in Tuck's eyes, instead of a full fledged model.
maybe you can redeem your manhood by going on Dancing With The Stars. (smile)
"she'd let me pick out a few for myself." - Jeter2
Jeter, apropos, well maybe not much, a bit of bonus reading material for you...
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070703/COMMENTARY/70703001
It's okay if you share. :^)
By the way, I *did* see your final late comment to me last Sunday. However, when I went to add a note to that effect, I found out the thread was "archived" and no more posts were allowed. ...It is by such mechanisms we learn something new every day.
DarkMass,
Thanks for the link...gotta admit my favorite part was *Coultist/Coulter* remark that "Liberals used to eat babies. Maybe that’s why they got so fat." Laughed out loud at that one ;-) I recomend the link to all my Liberal buds here. You'll enjoy it.
Glad you did get to read my post, I think they let you reply for up to 3 days before the thread gets archived. Gone to reply to posts myself in the past & was disappointed to find I was too late. Live & learn I guess.
Well I'm heading to Boston [Fenway Park] soon, got tickets to a Red Sox game. I'm a Yankee fan, so this is always an interesting *adventure* since I wear a Yankee cap just to give the boo birds a treat. Funny thing is I usually end up getting along with my tormentors...hey it's only a game.
Catch ya later :-)
No way Jeter, Juliajayne said and I agree men who read books are sexy.
is tucker sexy ?
NO.
Hell, no.
He has a rug on his head and a bad rug at that. No way is he sexy!
Some old Marx Brothers movie...Harpo is burning a book. Someone comes by and asks Chico why Harpo is doing that. Chico replies "He can't read."
There you are. Tucker Carlson is a dick and a wannabe throwback to guys like John Wayne. It scares him that anyone might not be a drunken moron like his President or his probable media idol, OxyBoy Limbaugh. The idea that Barack actuall wrote a book is really threatening, not the idea he is indeed using the club as a vehicle for self-promotion. For the latter: so what? This is politics, and Obama's up against the Queen of the Wilis, Hillaire Antoinette.
Tucker? Go rent a John Wayne movie and self-stimulate.
Wow, this guy does not know when to quit! This borders on obsession?
Maybe the Obama book clubs should read Tucker's book:
"How to be a Chicken Sh*t A-Hole in 3 Easy Steps"
Perhaps Tucker and Tweety could have a sleep over where they stay up all night long eating icecream and talking about who is and who isnt manly enough for them. Sounds dreamy!
Does Tucker really have a leg to stand on when it comes to soapboxing on what constitutes manliness? Is he a purveyor of macho?
What on Earth does Tucker Carlson know about where men hang out? Did he call some men he knows and ask?
Tucker, your the biggest pussy I've ever witnessed graduate to a neck tie from a bow tie.
I've been eight years in the Marines, three years a Correctional Officer and the day I need a pencil necked geek like you to tell me what a man does is the day I quit eating quiches.
For some reason I think real men don't give a sh#t what little wimps like you think.
Well done Mike
TC is the personification of a SNOT and all you have to do is go to the dictionary, look up SNOT, and you'll find a picture of Tucker Carlson. Unfortunately for TC, his LOW RATED show puts him in a position of desperately trying to get attention, and the little kid can't offer any intellectual arguments, so he constantly resorts to his dorm room cowardly attacks.
What manly activity has TC ever participated in, towel boy for the republican spit ball team.
It's very obvious to me that sniveling little Tucker is trying to goad Obama into replying to him. I hope Obama doesn't take the bait! By the way, THANK YOU MMFA for all of your great work!
What Mike said.
But why do people like Carlson get so much air time? Who makes the decisions that put them on and give them such license?
Anybody here familiar with the history of Upton Sinclair, Irving Thalberg and L.B. Mayer? We have no progressive reality in America because of the guys behind wussy man TC.
Tucky (oops, sorry, name calling, I'm a bully) is POd that Bull OhReally?(oops, sorry again) is getting all the attention from MMFA and KO(D) (oops) this week and wants sooooo bad to make the "Worst" list that he is going out of his way to try to find a way to get attention. He has done everything but paint a bullseye on himself for KO(D) (oops) to hit.
Wow, literacy really bugs knuckle-draggers like you, right Carlson? So go climb in your manly SUV and please go away...
Gee thanks, Tucker. I'm sure you are a big supporter of the No Child Left Behind Act's fixation upon standardized testing. Since I'm a high school English teacher I know that the biggest impediment for boys who can't pass the test is THAT THEY NEVER PICK UP A BOOK! While it's highly doubtful that they watch your show, either, you didn't do anyone any favors with this ignorant comment.
By the way, the best English professor I ever had was a man who switched his undergraduate major from engineering to English because, in his words, "I realized I could read all the books I wanted, be surrounded by women all day, and still get a degree!"
Also, I agree with HuntingtonBeachLefty who pointed out that the fact that Mr. Geist can use the phrase "mani/pedi" in casual conversation is a little more telling than Senator Obama starting a book club!
This attack on Obama was unfortunately started by Michael Scherer, who wrote an article for Salon magazine entitled "Hillary is from Mars, and Obama from Venus." His thesis was that Hillary is ramping up masculine traits in order to convince voters that she is "man enough" for the presidency and commander in chief. Obama, on the other hand, is softening his presentation so as not to scare whites and feed into the bad black man stereotype. Carlson has clearly picked up on this article and has decided that he will undermine Obama's candidacy by attacking his manhood and by using drug metaphors whenever he talks about him. Perhaps he feels that there is more than one way to skin a cat now that Imus is off the network for using racial insults.
My favorite Tucker story...
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Still not working.
If the transcript between Carlson and Geist was read out loud in a "valley girl" accent, it would be truly hilarious.
Although a few "Oh My Gosh" phrases are needed though.
Tucker belongs to the Manly Man club -- this one, valiantly fielding questions in a most manly way:
http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2007/07/frameshop-a-p-1.html
Tucker, we are in the sixth year of an eight year experiment with an illiterate president and it is not working out particularly well. Remember back in 2001 when our test subject was too busy clearing brush on his fake ranch to read his Presidential Daily Brief that indicated that terrorists were determined to strike in America to even suggest there was a threat. Now almost 6 years later his Secretary of Homeland Security announced that he has a gut feeling that Al Qaeda might be planning an attack. All hope is not lost though. Our test subject was able to reverse his position on the existence of Global Warming, but not until the information was presented in the form of a movie. Unfortunately, the president has been slow to respond with actual policy to support his newly adopted position. Apparently the subject is still smarting from his previous experience with movie inspired legislation when he attempted to re-calibrate the balance of power between our three branches of government when inspired by the Terry Schiavo videos. Our current study indicates that the experiment with the anti-intellectual, reading impaired, fake macho, fake cowboy, fake Texan president have produced disastrous results that will require many administrations to repair. In response to the charge, your guest’s charge of the book club is self serving. He is campaigning for president. Everything about a presidential campaign is self-serving, fool. Stop high-fiving each other over how brilliant Fred Thompson is for breaking out his fake pickup truck, and stop expressing dismay over how no one really knows who Obama is what he believes, and read a book. We tried it your way and it is not working, *ucker.
Thanks Media Matters for saving many of us the exhasperation of having to sit through the daily insullting news coverage to get to the daily insulting commentary from these "artists." I turn to you and turn off the tellie.
Havng been in the green room a few times I'm sure you know that the Tuckers of America do readily admit they are entertainers first, not newsfolk a la Cronkite or Murrow. O'Reilly has said so publicly.
If only the public were made aware through disclaimer they would not be as vulnerable to having their opinions shaped.
Oprah has this amazing capacity to transform liars and plagiarists (like James Frey) into instant superstars. No wonder Sen. Obama has developed a sudden liking for her. Watch for Oprah to be discarded form the campaign when the BHOrehas no use for her anymore.
And this was such a pleasant, troll-free rant-fest. Oh well, at least AUTOPSYCHOTIC hasn't checked in yet.
What a waste of skin Tucker Carlson is. And Geist too. What the hell, they might both benefit from reading a little more. And the Book Club might also socialize these two rather effeminate weenies as well.
Imagine, having your vision of masculinity dependent on not reading books and not talking about them. Disgusting little a**holes.
Yeah, male authors are so wussy. Thomas McGuane, Jim Harrison, Ernest Hemingway. They would all beg for mercy from Tucker and whoever the little guy in the video is if they got involved in a bar fight.
"CARLSON: And I said, "That is so solipsistic."
Oh this is rich coming from a preening horse's ass like Tucker.I suspect(given the gratuitous bitchiness of the comment)that Oprah's natural humanity and generosity deeply offends Tucker's rigid right wing sensibilities.Her philanthropy is upsetting the natural Darwinian order of things.
Are these 2 idots scraping the bottom of the barrel to hurl insults and innuendos to Sen. Obama? I am constantly appalled at politics today. When I see an inept, out-of-control administration refuse to accept responsibility for the worst decisions ever made in the past 6-7 years I want to suggest, "better to be quiet and thought a fool than to express yourself and remove all doubt".