NY Times buried correction of false anecdote supporting "cool" Clinton-Obama relationship, leaving questions unanswered
In its August 9 edition, The New York Times issued a correction to an August 7 article by reporter Jeff Zeleny, noting that an anecdote that Zeleny had used to support his thesis that "Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have barely spoken to each other -- at least in any meaningful way -- for months" was false. The article, headlined "Competitors, Once Collegial, Now Seem Cool," asserted that "after the State of the Union address, the two senators found themselves doing back-to-back interviews on CNN. Mr. Obama went first, with Mrs. Clinton pacing a few feet away. Finally, an aide escorted her completely around the rotunda of the Russell Senate Office Building, avoiding walking directly by Mr. Obama." In fact, according to the correction, "Mrs. Clinton took a circuitous route past Mr. Obama not to avoid him, but to accommodate a television producer."
While the false anecdote has been removed from the online edition of the article, and the correction has been appended, the correction does not appear on the version of the article in the Nexis database. Zeleny did not identify his source for the original anecdote, and in its correction, the Times did not report the basis for Zeleny's claim. Further, the Times, whose corrections policy makes a distinction between "[s]ubstantive errors" -- which it defines as errors that have "materially affected the reader's understanding of a news development" -- and "narrower errors," treated the correction of the false anecdote as the latter, even though the anecdote reinforces a media stereotype of Clinton as calculating and "cool" (a word Zeleny used to describe a "stare" Clinton purportedly gave Obama at a different time). The anecdote also immediately preceded this sentence, which remains in the article: "Many Senate observers, even those close to Mrs. Clinton, say they believe she set the less-than-collegial tone."
From the original August 7 article, retrieved from the Nexis database:
The relationship began to change when Mr. Obama began musing aloud about a presidential bid. The day he opened his exploratory committee, several Senate observers said, he extended his hand and said hello on the Senate floor. She breezed by him, offering a cool stare.
One week later, after the State of the Union address, the two senators found themselves doing back-to-back interviews on CNN. Mr. Obama went first, with Mrs. Clinton pacing a few feet away. Finally, an aide escorted her completely around the rotunda of the Russell Senate Office Building, avoiding walking directly by Mr. Obama.
Many Senate observers, even those close to Mrs. Clinton, say they believe she set the less-than-collegial tone. But Mr. Obama offered a glimpse into his own competitiveness two years ago when a Chicago television reporter told him about snagging a hallway interview with Mrs. Clinton.
''I outpoll her in Illinois,'' Mr. Obama said. Then, realizing how his remark might sound, he added, ''That was a joke!''
In a September 30, 2004, "Editors' Note," the Times reported that it was instituting a new corrections policy in order "to give greater prominence to corrections of the most serious errors." From the "Editors' Note":
Starting tomorrow, corrections on Page A2 will be published in two groupings. Substantive errors -- those that have materially affected the reader's understanding of a news development -- will be addressed under the traditional heading, ''Corrections.'' Narrower errors -- those involving spelling, for example, or dates and historical references -- will be corrected under a second heading, ''For the Record.''
On any day when all of the corrections fall into the second category, the heading will read ''Corrections: For the Record.''
The Times recently ran a correction of a claim made about a different Democratic presidential candidate that reinforced another media-perpetuated stereotype. On July 29, the Times published the following (on Page 2 of the "Sunday Styles" section):
An article last Sunday about politicians' choice of clothing while campaigning referred incorrectly to the role of Naomi Wolf in Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. She was a consultant on women's issues and outreach to young voters; she was not Mr. Gore's image consultant and was not involved in his decision to wear earth-toned clothing.
The apocryphal rumor about Wolf advising Gore to wear earth tones, repeated by the media as truth during the 2000 presidential campaign, provided potent ammunition for supporters of then-Gov. Bush to smear Gore. The correction addressed the following, in the original July 22 article by Guy Trebay (later updated in the online version):
"If somebody doesn't come across as real and believable in their image," [Democratic strategist Bill Carrick] said, "they're not going to be believable in their content, either."
They risk becoming Al Gore in earth tones, in other words, to cite a famously lampooned misstep the former presidential candidate undertook on the advice of Naomi Wolf, then his image consultant.
New York Times writers -- including Maureen Dowd in at least three columns, Peter Marks, Michiko Kakutani, and the paper's Editorial Desk -- were among the media that perpetuated the "earth tones" rumor during the 2000 campaign, though the July 29 correction was the Times' first on that issue.
Also, as Media Matters for America has noted, although the Times published a correction on April 20, 1994, for a March 18, 1994, article that included a falsehood regarding President Clinton's tenure as governor of Arkansas, the online version of the article still does not include the correction.

















Bad NY Times, Bad NY Times. You put a correction to an article in your "Corrections" section. Now that's fine if it's not a nice thing about a Democrat, but if it is it must be taken out of it's appropriate section, and put on page 1.
Everybody happy.........
All corrections are on page A2.
There are different subcategories for two different types of corrections. This correction was not for a simple spelling error or for a incorrect citation. This error should have been covered as a substantive error, one that has materially affected the reader's understanding of a news development. Removing that anecdote from the story removes much of the ammo against her.
Another distortion courtesy of the WITH Patrol.
In the latter half of the second paragraph, MMFA is clearly contending that the manner in which the correction was printed was not congruent with NYT's own corrections policy.
Nowhere does MMFA obligate this to be front-page news. So why not argue the merits of the point they're actually trying to make instead of the usual tactic of sarcastically accusing MMFA of being an evil, obligatory gestapo?
It's all good.
But the next time you and many here stand on your pedestals and lecture us on how the media is unfairly concentrating on these extraneuous image and fluff issues like Edward's hair, or Clinton's voice, at the expense of seriousness.......we will remind you the fuss made over a silly correction regarding the misreporting of Hillary's pleasantries with another candidate.
Exactly how are inaccurate and misleading reports about inconsequential things like Clinton's voice or Edwards' hair comparable to substantive errors in reporting that change the reader's take on a story?
They aren't comparable. Unless you're a "why is this here" aficianado.
Hey, if Clinton's mood is more consequential to you than her voice, or Edwards' hair, by all means, go for it.
This issue at hand is not Clinton's mood, it's the status of her relationship with Obama.
If you enjoy being delusional, I can't stop you, but I can point out when you are doing it.
Non-issues about Edwards' hair are not comparable to true, substantive errors in reporting! This was a substantive error.
Dishonest people like you try to twist things around to claim that we are claiming that it's earth-shattering news, and it's not. The conservative misinformation that's out there, and the promotion of the conservative agenda that happens over and over again, often happens in small stories and minor issues, but it all adds up to a huge problem for America. Dishonest people like you try to hold MMfA in contempt with your "Why is this here" complaints because MMfA highlights those small stones that have piled up to be mountains.
How many *corrections* aren't buried in most newspapers?
Seems like a fairly common practice.
Not only that, but the correction appears in the online article now - but not the Nexis database?
Talk about much ado about nothing. And even if the relationship wasn't "cool" after the State of the Union address, it apparently is now with their recent foreign policy dustups.
Well I'm sure the gang will be along soon to point out why our opinions are bogus & why this is Conservative MIS-information ;-)
Ya got that right.
Funny, we are being told here all the time how the media is focused on the "pressing issues" of style and fluff instead of substantive issues regarding Democrats, yet panties get wadded up because the NY Times doesn't offer a front page correction that Obama and Clinton aren't kissin' cousins?
Geez, it's a proverbial "right-wing" echo chamber in here.
Okay, so Hillary took her circuitous route to accommodate a television producer. How very warm and uncalculating of her to do so. Never mind the dozens of first-hand accounts of her coldness over the years or the fact that her election team is the finest "well oiled" - dare I say it - "calculating" machine on either side of the aisle.
But I guess this one example debunks all that. Well done. *sarcasm*
Barack and Hillary - the Sally Field of the presidential candidates....."We like each other, We REALLY like each other!"
Now that was priceless Tommy.
Bottom line here: No matter where the NY Times put the correction...even if they'd stuck it on page one above the fold, it hardly would dispel the chatter out there about the brewing hostility between these two candidates. Anyone who hasn't been asleep for the past few weeks are well aware that these two don't exactly have a warm relationship.
Exactly, well said.
To argue what page or where this silly correction is placed does nothing to change the fact that presidential candidates prior to a primary are often fuming at each other behind the scenes, even though their public persona needs to be far less acrimonious - for they need their opponent's support once they get in the playoffs.
A fly in the room of Hillary strategizing probably gets quite the earful
How many years of study did it take you to learn how to craft such shoddy strawman arguments?
This posting by this media watchdog group is about a failing by the media which promotes the conservative agenda. It's not intended to do anything else, and especially not intended to discuss the typical fighting and back-stabbing that goes on in political matches.
My grandkid blowing dandelion seeds could have knocked over that strawman argument. They need to teach you better skills, man.
Bruce, I think you just answered the question of why this is here...for people like you who buy into the 1 dimensional charactures the media and pundits create. There are numerous accounts of Clintons warmth and dedication but I guess since they don't fit the "type" they don't get much play. What gets played are these silly anecdotal stories from a few people that have an ax to grind. I guess you also buy into Bush as a regular joe, country boy who would be great to have a beer with. I think we can stop asking now why MMFA continues to highlight this "fluff"
The reason this is highlighted is because it doesn't fit into MMFA's narrative of the way they want the candidates to be portrayed.
No. its here because it perpetuates the conservative agenda of how THEY want the candidates to be portayed.
Lost - Don't people with axes to grind generally have a reason? That's all I'm saying.
Generally people with an ax to grind don't have a good reason for attacking another person on the particular issue they're attacking them on - that's the whole point of the phrase. It means being unreasonably harsh in judging another person because of one's own selfish motives.
How should they be pictured, as some lovey dovey friends? I do not want either of them to be friendly., I want them to be able to do the job.
Well said Casey, their personal relationship is irrelevant to me. I could care less whether they kiss each other's picture at night before going to bed, or if they have voodoo dolls they poke with hairpins.......it's how they do the job, the one they want us to elect them to do, that is important to me.
One problem is, that 6 months down the road, the absence of that correction from Nexis will endorse yet further distortions of the truth by the Corporate Media/Repugnant Liars cabal. As soon as the questions fade from short-term memory (FoxLies fans = about 60 seconds, but allow 90 days for the rest of us) this whole smear will be revived and recycled in the intense coverage of the campaign.
Maybe less corrections would be needed if "journalists" checked their sources, facts and outright lies. I guess it is okay to print something that is incorrect, let it travel 'round the world via internet, print, radio( a Cons wet-dream), Tv, then correct it after the damage is done.
Seems to me that "9/11---Iraq" was in that vein...and that never caused any problems
I know. The damage done by this heinous NY Times piece is astronomical. I wouldn't be surprised if they both drop out of the race due to stress over this.
Oh jeez...LOL.
I'm sure Brock will sleep better tonite...after reporting to his boss Hillary...that his crack staffer, Matt Gertz, has single-handedly saved the Clinton campaign.
Wesley
Do you have any proof that Hillary is running MMFA?
I am sure you WILL sleep well tonight delusional fantasies are such a comfort to you wingnuts.
- ...and a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institution that I helped to start and support like Media Matters... - Hillary Clinton at the dailykos convention.
Yep, the genie is out of the bottle on this one...or maybe all the years of rubbing shoulders with Algore rubbed off on her.
"I only wish that we had this active and fighting of a blogosphere about fifteen years ago because we have certainly suffered over the last years from a real imbalance in the political world in our country, but we are righting that balance, or “lefting” that balance, not sure which, but we are certainly better prepared and more focused on you know, taking our arguments and making them effective and disseminating them widely and really putting together a network in the blogosphere and a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institution that I helped to start and support like Media Matters and the Center for American Progress."
Wow, I guess we've been wrong all this time to demand proof that big dark Hillary cloud hangs over MMFA. Here she goes and serves up a T-bone like this for the righty bloggers to pounce on.
If MMFA is truly nothing more than an arm of the Clinton campaign, why would she be dumb enough to say something like this knowing that a rightwing minion like Amanda Carpenter might be there?
Pete
Hillary's fingerprints have been in evidence here for a long time...despite the repeated denials of many.
She may have simply been caught up in the moment...the opportunity to pander to the left blogosphere...and pulled a boner.
"Nothing more than an arm of the Clinton campaign". Hardly...mmfa has tried to carefully craft their image as media watchdogs...but the reality is different.
I have no truck with their right to promote leftwing politics...however...let's be honest. They do not operate this multi-million dollar operation on donations from bloggers.
They are part of the leftwing cabal of groups like moveon.org, CAP, and others...with funding and strategy coordinated...directly or indirectly.
"and a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institution that I helped to start and support like Media Matters"
Right-wingers who ridiculed Hillary mercilessly for once alleging a "vast right wing conspiracy" are now themselves moaning about a vast LEFT-wing conspiracy.
Yes, a coordinated "cabal" of which Hillary, in her cold and calculating way (after all, she won't walk in front of Obama (see other thread) is deeply involved.
It's amusing to see them turning the tables (in their minds), but also you've gotta feel awfully sorry for them, too.
Well Hillary, you may become a thread on the very website you claim to have helped to start up and support. Because it's been proven by MMFA staff that you are not involved with this site. You're not involved and Soros is not involved (directly, does that get thrown in there? I forget). Therefore, your comment must be taken as conservative misinformation. Why are you lying, HRC?
The conservative dishonest media is at it again.
Was that quick enough for the republican apologists?
What really happened is totally different than what Tommy and Jeter describe. This is another example in a long string of their "why is this here" posts that ignore reality, the facts, and the MMfA mission statement. The conservative agenda is to paint Hillary as a cold, calculating man in a woman's body, and the failure of the newspaper to note this as a substantive error aids that agenda. She didn't do what they said she did.
According to the newspaper's own spokesman and their own definition, this was a substantive error and so should have been included wherever they cover substantive errors. They covered it like it was a simple spelling mistake. It was not. Giving one example to make your point, and then having to remove that example because it wasn't true, totally demolished that point. That's substantive!
If you check the other corrections issued that day, they are all simple corrections except for that one. The anecdote mentioned by MMfA is the only one in that article that puts Hillary in the driver's seat for ignoring Obama, and that anecdote isn't true.
Starting tomorrow, corrections on Page A2 will be published in two groupings. Substantive errors -- those that have materially affected the reader's understanding of a news development -- will be addressed under the traditional heading, ''Corrections.'' Narrower errors -- those involving spelling, for example, or dates and historical references -- will be corrected under a second heading, ''For the Record.''
This should have it's own category > Ridiculous, insignificant and meaningless Errors.
No, it should not. It's a substantive error. It's not earthshattering, but it is a substantive error. It's clearly not a "narrow error".
You repeating your same incorrect statements over and over again doesn't make them magically become correct.
"Narrower errors -- those involving spelling, for example, or dates and historical references -- will be corrected under a second heading, ''For the Record.''
Categories describing the right wing media...
When falsehoods such as this one by the NY Times are left to stand uncorrected, or are permitted to be inadequately corrected -such as in the case above- lazy journalists and right-wing partisans will parrot them endlessly, using the lies against progressives. They may know it's not true that Clinton went out of her way to avoid Obama, but they won't care, and will say it anyway. Because they assume their audience's ignorance.
Just one example of this was in the Chicago Tribune recently, when an editorial "reminded" its readers not to forget that Al Gore claimed he invented the Internet.
Progressives have learned their lessons over the past six years.
Hmmm? I think you missed it Dave, it was corrected. Just not where MMFA would have liked.
In fact, Dave was exactly right.
It was not adequately corrected. In one case, the original story has been uncorrected, and in the case where they did correct it, even though it was a substantive error, it was corrected instead as though it was a simple spelling mistake or mistaken attribution. Accurately acknowledging the size and importance of your error is a vital part of that correction process, and they didn't get it right.
That's makes a bundle of times you've been wrong on this one thread, Tommy. How many more times are you going to try repeating the same nonsense?
As long as it takes to push you over the edge of civility and into your more familiar territory of raging insults.........are we there yet?
I don't get mad, nor do I make insults.
You aren't worth it, frankly. Proving you wrong and showing your hypocrisy is fun and provides a diversion for me. Getting mad would take all the fun out it!
That would be your delusions talking, Tommy, telling you that I'm someone I'm not, and since you have no way to combat what I said, you'll attack the messenger.
Go take your meds.
Adding to my post above, the NY Times falsehood about Hillary Clinton & Obama does not fall under the paper's "narrower errors" category ("spelling.... dates and historical references"), and therefore the paper issued an inadequate correction by their own definition---not Media Matters'.
As I stated, an inadequate correction allows right-wing partisans even more breathing room to repeat the falsehood.
Anyone in doubt can tune-in Sean Hannity (to give just one example) in the months ahead to hear him say, "Hillary dislikes Obama so much that she won't even walk past him." His audience's ignorance is what people like Hannity play upon. But a better-informed audience will know truth from lies.
I am sure Hillary and Obama do not like each other they are both competing for the same position, They are competitive people. Bill Clinton never got along with Jerry Brown, Bush and Dole, GW Bush and McCain, Kennedy and Carter. Does not mean they will not get along , but lets be logical if you or I wanted something very badly and someone else was in our way how would we react to them?
I think they will make kissy-face when they end up on the same ticket.
Politics makes strange bedfellows. Clinton-Gore, Kennedy-Johnson, Bush-Quayle just to name few recent couples.
oops.. it should read "a few recent couples".
Reagan /Bush
Gore/Lieberman
The problem with being lied to by a newspaper is that sometimes it hurts. For example, an "anonymous source" reports that some food suspected of being tainted is actually good to eat, people don't throw it out, and...
When publishing a news article and purporting to present facts, reporters should be held to a higher standard than random gossip. There should be some serious consequences for misleading the public and doing so knowingly.
Will the Times take this reporter out of their job for a few weeks? (Not likely).
Frankly, with the number of facts being "spun" in the Times, not to mention the outright untruths, I have a hard time believing almost anything they print. I do better verifying the information on the Internet and look for at least three independent sources.
It amazes me that some of the posters here have so much time and are so concerned about the quality of the articles on MMFA that they would spend what must be hours informing the rest of us that the articles presented are frivoluos. My heartfelt thanks for letting me know what should and should not be on this site. You are truely selfless in your "why is this here" service.
Thank you and deepest regards.
Skipp
Skipp, those are the Great Americans- here every day to apologize for the shoddy state of journalism in our mainstream media.
If it's not a straight up deliberate and malicious lie, it's A-OK.