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August 14, 2007 7:47 pm ET
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SUMMARY: Melanie Morgan called VoteVets.org chairman Jon Soltz "a hypocrite and a liar" for criticizing Army Sgt. David Aguina's appearance in uniform at a YearlyKos convention panel but using a picture of himself in uniform on the VoteVets.org website and engaging in political activism while serving in the Army Reserve, which Morgan called "a violation of the U.S. Military's Uniform Code of Military Justice." In fact, military law does not prohibit reservists from engaging in political activity, and it does not address the use of a photo of oneself in uniform for political purposes.

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In an August 10 column on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, right-wing radio host Melanie Morgan referred to Jon Soltz, co-founder and chairman of VoteVets.org, as "a hypocrite and a liar" for criticizing Army Sgt. David Aguina's appearance in uniform at an August 3 panel at the YearlyKos convention but using a picture of himself in uniform on the VoteVets.org website and engaging in political activism while serving in the Army Reserve, which Morgan called "a violation of the U.S. Military's Uniform Code of Military Justice [UCMJ]." In fact, military law -- the UCMJ and applicable regulations -- does not prohibit reservists from engaging in political activity, and it does not specifically address the use of a photo of oneself in uniform for political purposes. What active-duty members, reservists, and military retirees are explicitly barred from doing is engaging in political activity while in uniform "when an inference of official sponsorship for the activity ... may be drawn." Morgan also asserted that Soltz was in violation of the UCMJ during the August 9 edition of her radio show on San Francisco radio station KSFO.

Morgan wrote that Soltz "launched into a tirade" after U.S. Army Sgt. David Aguina "made the 'mistake' of noting the progress being made with 'the surge' of U.S. troops in Iraq" during a Yearly Kos panel titled "The Military and Progressives: Are They That Different?" Morgan continued: "He did not express any political opinions; he merely challenged the panel to prove him wrong that civilian casualties in Iraq had dropped." Morgan reported that Soltz responded: "For the sergeant I want to see you outside, I want the name of your commander, your first sergeant, you will never ever use my uniform again in the name of political purposes."

As Morgan noted, a Pajamas Media cameraman had interviewed Soltz after the encounter and quoted him asserting that he was angry with Aguina because "[w]ell look, you don't use the military uniform to talk politics.... I don't appreciate people using military uniforms in politics." Soltz went on during the interview to assert: "You don't use a military uniform to talk politics. It's against the law." Soltz continued: "You don't use your military uniform to speak politics, you speak it as a civilian. This is why we have a good, disciplined military, it's against the law."

In response, Morgan called Soltz "a hypocrite and a liar" because he "us[es] a picture of himself in his uniform" on the VoteVets.org website. Morgan also stated that during the August 8 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, retired Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson -- vice chairman of the "conservative, pro-troop non-profit organization" Move America Forward, of which Morgan is chairman -- "confronted Soltz on his political activism at the same time he is serving in the reserves -- a violation of the U.S. Military's Uniform Code of Military Justice." While Patterson did in fact ask Soltz, "Are you a reservist? Are you still in the reserves, John?" he did not mention the UCMJ, nor did he make the false assertion, as Morgan did, that political activism by reservists violates the UCMJ. Think Progress posted the video. (In that same appearance, as Media Matters for America noted, Patterson made the unsubstantiated claim that in 1996, then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton "wanted to outlaw uniforms, military uniforms in the White House"; Patterson's story on how he learned of the purported plan has varied with each telling.)

Morgan also made this accusation on the August 9 edition of her radio show, KSFO's The Lee Rodgers & Melanie Morgan Program, asserting that Soltz is "actually a reservist, and he has no business -- well, he's in violation of the United States Marine Corps Code of Justice by making these kinds of outrageous political and partisan statements."

In fact, military law does not prohibit reservists from engaging in political activities. Indeed, several members of Congress are members of the U.S. military reserve, including Rep. Stephen Buyer (R-IN), a colonel in the Army Reserve; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), a colonel in the Air Force Reserve; and Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL), a Naval Reserve intelligence officer.

Moreover, military law does not specifically address the use of photos of oneself in uniform. While Department of Defense regulation Directive 1334.01 bans "members of the Armed Forces (including retired members and members of Reserve components)" from appearing in uniform "during or in connection with furthering political activities," it does not include a reference to photos.

Further, Army Regulation 670-1 prohibits the wearing of Army uniforms "in connection with the furtherance of any political ... interests":

j. Wearing Army uniforms is prohibited in the following situations:

(1) In connection with the furtherance of any political or commercial interests, or when engaged in off-duty civilian employment.

(2) When participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except as authorized by competent authority.

(3) When attending any meeting or event that is a function of, or is sponsored by, an extremist organization.

(4) When wearing the uniform would bring discredit upon the Army.

(5) When specifically prohibited by Army regulations.

But neither military law -- these regulations, and the punitive articles of the UCMJ -- nor the chapter of the United States Code dealing with "The Uniform" contains either a ban on reservists using photos of themselves in uniform for political purposes. Rep. Buyer features photos of himself in uniform on his congressional website, as do the founders and executive director of Vets for Freedom, an organization of combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who support President Bush's escalation of the Iraq war.

In her column, Morgan claimed that Soltz is "the front man in [anti-war activists'] campaign to betray our troops and force them to declare defeat in Iraq." She also asserted that he is "acting like a cockroach, frantically scurrying from the spotlight of truth that's shining on him." Morgan concluded: "Does anyone have a can of bug spray handy?"

From the August 9 edition of KSFO's The Lee Rodgers & Melanie Morgan Program:

RODGERS: Now, Mel can put it into context. This happened on, what, that Chris Matthews scream-fest, is that it?

MORGAN: Yeah, it happened last night. The producers of Hardball invited Jon Soltz on. Jon Soltz is this individual who says that he -- tells everybody he has the absolute moral authority to denounce the war in Iraq because he's an Iraqi war veteran. He's actually a reservist, and he has no business -- well, he's in violation of the United States Marine Corps Code of Justice by making these kinds of outrageous political and partisan statements.

RODGERS: So he hasn't been there at all, is that what you're saying?

MORGAN: No, he has been to Iraq, but he's not supposed to be involved in partisan activity like he is now, but he's --

RODGERS: But he's still a member of the reserves.

MORGAN: He's a reserve -- yes, he is.

RODGERS: Oh, OK. Just wanted to clarify.

From Morgan's August 10 WorldNetDaily column:

Here's what Soltz said as captured by the great people at Pajamas Media who videotaped the incident:

"For the sergeant I want to see you outside, I want the name of your commander, your first sergeant, you never ever use my uniform again in the name of political purposes."

As Soltz bolted from the stage, the Pajamas Media cameras were still rolling and asked Soltz why he was so worked up.

"Well look, you don't use the military uniform to talk politics.... I don't appreciate people using military uniforms in politics," Soltz said.

One problem, Mr. Soltz -- you're a hypocrite and a liar.

Here's the image I downloaded on Thursday from Mr. Soltz's VoteVets.org website -- a group that spent nearly $2 million in the 2006 election cycle to defeat Republican candidates for Congress who supported the missions of our troops in Iraq.

There's Mr. Soltz using a picture of himself in his uniform right under a menu bar that shows which political candidates are "VoteVets.org Candidates" -- you can view the photograph of Soltz in uniform on the VoteVets.org website until they realize he's busted and take it down.

[...]

This weekend Soltz was a panelist at the left-wing "Yearly Kos" convention where he launched into a tirade against U.S. Army Sgt. David Aguina of the 733rd maintenance company. Sgt. Aguina made the 'mistake' of noting the progress being made with "the surge" of U.S. troops in Iraq. He did not express any political opinions; he merely challenged the panel to prove him wrong that civilian casualties in Iraq had dropped.

[...]

On Wednesday, Move America Forward Vice Chairman, Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson (USAF, Ret.) confronted Soltz on his political activism at the same time he is serving in the reserves -- a violation of the U.S. Military's Uniform Code of Military Justice.

As captured in a video from MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Soltz screamed, yelled and literally stuck his tongue in the side of his cheek in discomfort as he realized that Colonel Patterson had busted Soltz for improper conduct.

Jon Soltz is acting like a cockroach, frantically scurrying from the spotlight of truth that's shining on him.

Does anyone have a can of bug spray handy?

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    • Author by worrierking (August 14, 2007 7:50 pm ET)
         

      What does Ms. Morgan have to say about all of the military personnel who appeared as window dressing for George W. Bush's political speeches and rallies?

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    • Author by nativeofsf (August 14, 2007 7:57 pm ET)
         

      Bimbos don't research nothing, just doo-doo, which they readily scarf…then spew.

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    • Author by flhinton9099 (August 14, 2007 8:04 pm ET)
         

      Its odd how all these people on the right talk about duty and patriotism when it comes to the military.  But, they're in no hurry to volunteer and go to Iraq themselves.  I guess as long as they don't have to do the fighting...

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      • Author by achrispage6992 (August 15, 2007 7:32 am ET)
           

        FLHINTON,

        You have touched on a pet peeve of mine. I have posted here numerous times about these nilly willy conservatives who lust for war but would never serve. It absolutely drives me crazy. As I have said before...anyone who lusts for war has not seen it and anyone who has seen it and lusts for it is simply insane.  

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        • Author by worrierking (August 15, 2007 8:40 am ET)
             

          "...anyone who lusts for war has not seen it and anyone who has seen it and lusts for it is simply insane."

          Thanks Chris. I've been racking my brain to find the words, but you've said it for me.

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          • Author by achrispage6992 (August 15, 2007 12:33 pm ET)
               

            The truth speaks volumes, King. For example, I was one who was truly appalled at the news story about the college republicans and their silly diversions as to why they don't enlist and fight in a war they so much support. Others at this site have touched on the conservative view that this "war on terror" is as vital as WWII or even more so for that matter. I for one just don't see how one could hold such a view and not serve. Heck, to my knowledge every GOP candidate other than Ron Paul supports the Bush approach to Iraq and only one of them has ever seen combat. I hold fast to my view on this and would point to Chuck Hagel (one of the most ardent conservatives in the senate) as support of my views. To me it stinks of cowardice to support a WAR if you are not willing to sacrifice for it. The reality is that people like Hannity, Boortz, Limbaugh, Gibson, Cheney, and Bush haven't really sacrificed anything. They are happy to let others be maimed and killed while they make millions and continue to spout the drivel that those who don't support this war are unpatriotic or are supporting the enemy. It seems to me that the ones really supporting the enemy here are those who send and support sending our young boys to die daily in what is nothing more than propoganda victory after victory for those who fight us. Shameful. After Pearl Harbor millions stopped their lives and enlisted, even the eite of our society. Is that happening today? Romney's kids are a prime example of this entitlement mind set of the social elite republicans in this country. I for one am glad that other combat veterans such as yourself see the folly of unecessary war. There  are some like this J4sonl character, for example,  who just don't get it. Hopefully folks like us are not a dying breed.  

            Perhaps our battle with Islamic Extremists is vital to our survival. If so, this administration has done a terrible job in uniting all of us under such a banner with the debacle in Iraq.  Just for fun, can any right wnger at this site give me an example of a right wing talking head (right wing radio host), administration official, or FOX news pundit who supports this continued blood letting in Iraq, that has served in combat?  

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    • Author by snoopy (August 14, 2007 8:43 pm ET)
         

      I will have to give mOrgan a "pass" today. She doesn't have a clue, so true, but at least she was tied in enough to get the basics down. When I was a Marine, I loved my job so much that I totally understand why anyone who is a soldier loves to wear their uniform in public. Wearing your uniform in the good ol USA is not a crime. Wearing it overseas can be an issue depending on the port of call. If there is really a law that says the moment you step off base remove all clothing that says you are a marine I'd be front line to sign the repeal law. Nothing wrong with pride...

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (August 14, 2007 10:03 pm ET)
         

      Huh? You give Morgan a "pass" because she doesn't have a clue, but she's"trying?"  She wasn't pulled off the street to be on this show, and she was told in advance what the subject would be.  She pulls a total lie out of her ass and throws it out there to smear YearlyKos, and she does it not once, but twice.  What "basics" did she get down?

      Oh, and you're quite right that "wearing your uniform in the good ol USA is not a crime."  Nobody said it was.  There's no law that says you have to remove your uniform when you leave the base either- are you illiterate, or just too lazy to read the article?  But members of the military don't have the same rights as everyone else- that's why there's something called the Military Code of Justice, or did you not read the article?  What other rules and regulations enforced by the military to you want repealed? 

      Do you really want the military to be mixing with politics, and vice versa? if so, you really don't have any background in history at all, do you? 

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      • Author by snoopy (August 14, 2007 10:39 pm ET)
           

        You really did miss what I said. I'm curious what exactly I wrote that set you off, because we are basically on the same page. Please enlighten me.

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    • Author by CaseySpring (August 14, 2007 10:11 pm ET)
         

      She is so full of hate its coming out of her pores

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      • Author by norotornomotor9010 (August 15, 2007 11:35 am ET)
           

        Where is the hate?

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        • Author by worrierking (August 15, 2007 11:41 am ET)
             

          Surprised you can't see it Evil.

          She called Soltz a hypocrite, a liar and a cock roach, all because he's got a different perspective on the war.

          She should learn how to respectfully disagree. Instead she goes batsh_t crazy and attacks vets who don't agree with her.

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    • Author by jim359 (August 14, 2007 10:22 pm ET)
         

      JJAMELLE2880, I think you really missed the point of Snoopy's post. Read it again. Though I won't give Morgan a pass, I got his point about Pride in Uniform. My brother felt the same way when he was in the Navy.

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    • Author by jim359 (August 14, 2007 10:53 pm ET)
         

      You got it Snoopy. I tip my hat to you and everyone who served or is serving our Country in Uniform. Your sacrifice and call to duty does not go unnoticed.

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    • Author by bill mckern (August 14, 2007 11:01 pm ET)
         

      Snoopy, what are you talking about?  Morgan got it exactly wrong.  Soltz got it exactly right.  It's black letter law -- read the UCMJ manual if you don't believe me.  I know what I'm talking about after 25 years in the military and deployment to Iraq.

      And where did you get the idea that ANYONE said a military member couldn't wear a uniform off post?  NO ONE said that -- you're constructing a straw man because that's easier to knock down than the fact based reality that runs counter to your opinion. 

      Melanie Morgan is just another cookie cutter Bush clone who says she supports the troops but turns on them if they do anything other than act as backdrops for Bush photo ops and deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times without uttering a word of complaint.  Morgan shouldn't make stuff and pass it off as factual.  And neither should you.

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      • Author by snoopy (August 15, 2007 10:06 am ET)
           

        You late night posters really need to stop drinking before you respond. Read my post again, I never said anything that you just accused me of.

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        • Author by bill mckern (August 15, 2007 1:20 pm ET)
             

          "Wearing your uniform in the good ol USA is not a crime."

          You said EXACTLY what I attributed to you.

          My point is that no ever said that it WAS  crime to wear your uniform in public. 

          By saying wearing a uniform is not a crime, you're trying to counter a point that NO ONE MADE.  No one said weraing the uniform in public is a crime.

          Your comment about wear of the uniform not being a crime is a classic straw man -- setting up a fake target that's easy to knock down because your arguments don't have the heft to knock down a real target.

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    • Author by ellington (August 14, 2007 11:32 pm ET)
         

      Classic right-wing nonsense:

      Can't debate on the merits? Smear, smear, smear...

      Doesn't matter if the facts are on your side - just keep up the personal attacks, and the 23%-ers will buy whatever snake oil you're peddling.

      The day Melanie Morgan is ready for a real debate about our involvement in Iraq is the day Karl Rove enlists. 

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    • Author by flhinton9099 (August 14, 2007 11:34 pm ET)
         

      I think the point is that when you engage in politics in a military uniform, it is essentially what is done in banana republics and other military run regimes.  In this country, we all have the right to pursue whatever political activism we choose.  But to advocate a political stance in a military uniform disgraces that uniform.  Over the decades, we have seen Fidel Castro, Manuel Noriega and so many other despots use the uniform of their countries as propaganda tools.  That was the point, I think, John Stoltz was trying to make.

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      • Author by redking75687 (August 16, 2007 4:24 pm ET)
           

        Ronald Reagan once wore the official presidential green BDUs in the 1950's. Bush likes to strut around in the presidential bomber jacket when near the troops. They bring the uniforms out at times. They're favorite is that black suit with tie though, they all wear them. all the time. They're everywhere. Uniformity.

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    • Author by petenoc (August 15, 2007 2:12 am ET)
         

      I wish MMFA could have linked this "Hardball" tape that Melanie Morgan seems to be addressing. Mainly, I just want to see if she was putting words in a retired Lieutenant Colonel's mouth. Any person that high in rank that goes on television and misquotes UCMJ should be mocked and chided for using rank to win an argument that isn't based on fact. I'm active duty and have never served in the reserves, but even I know that reserve soldiers are free to engage in political activity. I mean I thought everyone knew that Senator Lindsey Graham (who is a JAG officer in the reserves) went over to Iraq for his yearly drill duty. But I digress, I just would like to see what was really said, however noting that Lieutenant Colonel Patterson belongs to MAF just like Morgan, I have a feeling he probably did make a fool of himself.  

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      • Author by achrispage6992 (August 15, 2007 7:53 am ET)
           

        The interesting thing about the Hardball appearance is that Patterson clearly lost the debate with Stolz following Stolz's questioning Patterson about his wartime service. It is classic, as Patterson responds regarding his being in Iraq and Stolz telling him it was a rah rah cheerleading trip. The unfortunate thing is that Patterson tried to pass of his trip to Iraq as some kind of combat mission which put him on the same playing field as Stolz. As an active duty member of the military you surely familiar with "lifers" such as Patterson who spend their entire careers in the military but don't have clue which end of the tube the round comes out of. Patterson is a lying partisan hack who uses his military service as a crutch and Morgan is the sweat under his armpit.

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    • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 15, 2007 3:28 am ET)
         

      Morgan continued: "He did not express any political opinions; he merely challenged the panel to prove him wrong that civilian casualties in Iraq had dropped."

      Four suicide bombers struck nearly simultaneously at communities of a small Kurdish sect in northwestern Iraq late Tuesday, killing at least 175 people and wounding 200 more, Iraqi military and local officials said. August 14, 2007

      Now who is the liar? Got any bug spray handy?

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    • Author by magnolialover (August 15, 2007 7:50 am ET)
         

      The one thing that I've always found amazing about certain right wingers (ahem, Morgan and her ilk) is that they are so very highly "pro-military" and "pro-soldier" as long as said soldier or soldiers have the same political views as them. If they don't, then it's on. This is just another blip on the chart of that rank and vile hypocrisy that they toss out there. Cindy Sheehan, is another example. The right wingers (some, not all) are all "pro military family" and "grieve for their losses" unless you're like Sheehan and speak out against the war, and Bush, and then you become fodder for the right wing smear machine. Another case, look at what Bush's buddies did during the 2004 Presidential election to Kerry's war record and what he did during his military service.

      They're pro military, only up and until the point that you stop supporting "their" side of things. And then, all bets are off.

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    • Author by Missouri Democrat (August 15, 2007 10:51 am ET)
         

      This is in reference to Snoopy's post, if it gets a little wordy forgive me. I served in the USMC for 7 yrs active duty back in the 80's. Then the USMC had a little different take on the wearing of uniforms in public than the other services. We were told to "never" wear our uniform in public unless it was at a public function say a Memorial Day service at a public cemetary. You could wear your uniform to go to and from your car at home, you never stopped to shop, fill the tank with gas or even to go to the bank, in those situations you had to do that in civvies only. Now I did go to a Veteran's day service one time but I wore my Alpha's and the command wanted volunteer's to go. I went to see a retired full bird who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor, tell me that is not impressive.

      Snoop last I knew, granted it was over 20 yrs ago, no marine ever called him/herself a "soldier". Troop maybe but never soldier. No marine I ever knew called themselves a "soldier" and if we were called a "soldier" we politely corrected the person who called us that. As a matter of fact one time I was standing in an airport and was asked if I was in the Army I politely corrected by saying "No ma'am I"m in the marines" and she apologized for her error. I told her "That's ok ma'am."

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      • Author by snoopy (August 15, 2007 11:00 am ET)
           

        It wasn't wordy at all, and I appreciate your response. I served in the Marines back in the 80's as well! I didn't serve too long though, I had the unfortunate discharge brought on by a motorcycle wreck early in my career. And you summed up very nicely about the where and when to wear a uniform.

        I am no fan of Morgan, my "pass" is veeery limited!

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        • Author by princeofwheels (August 15, 2007 11:26 am ET)
             

          Snoopy, Any connection about the word "pass" directed  at Morgana will not be tolerated. I hear that she would rather be "Buzzed" if you get my drift.

          P.S. She is still mad about Clinton not making a pass at her.

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    • Author by Batocchio (August 15, 2007 1:03 pm ET)
         

      Morgan is among the most vile and partisan hacks out there.  This is hardly surprising.  It just would nice if she got called on it more often by the MSM.

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    • Author by michael.franco3237 (August 15, 2007 1:17 pm ET)
         

      Why doesn't she just move her radio show to the green zone?  All these whinners for the war should be at the war.  Technology has come a long way.  You only get the best view if you are in the front row.  I forgot, Michael Ware has the front row.

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    • Author by thomas.melvin4266 (August 15, 2007 5:17 pm ET)
         

      Poor, Poor, Poor Melanie.  Once again she has proven to the rest of the world that she is not only a bimbo, but stupid also.  What is not surprising is that conservatives live by her word and her word alone along with the other legions of idiots on the conservative side.  I never realized how bad our education system was until I heard these people speak and then heard that some people actually believe what they say.  Rush, Melanie, Hanity, O'Rielly, the list of dummies goes on and on.  I guess it will take an evolutionary span of time for these people to become enlighten to the truth.  Who knows in a million years people may look back at poor, poor, poor Melanie and ask; where there really that many idiots alive all at once that they believed anything other than her name when she spoke?

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    • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (August 16, 2007 3:14 pm ET)
         

      Here's what Morgan originally said:

      He's actually a reservist, and he has no business -- well, he's in violation of the United States Marine Corps Code of Justice by making these kinds of outrageous political and partisan statements.

      Morgan is dead wrong.

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    • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (August 16, 2007 3:41 pm ET)
         

      Here's the link:

      [link to mediamatters.org]

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