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September 10, 2007 6:59 pm ET

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On the September 10 edition of CNN Newsroom, former White House adviser David Gergen said that Gen. David Petraeus "has won high marks within the military on all services as one of the most respected, independent-minded men and who ... [has] become a father figure on counterinsurgency," before admitting, "I must tell you, I have a personal relationship with him, so I'm sure I'm biased in this regard." CNN anchor Don Lemon introduced Gergen as "sort of our go-to guy today that we're going to talk to" during discussions of Petraeus' and Ambassador Ryan Crocker's testimonies on Iraq before Congress.

Before admitting he had a personal relationship with Petraeus, Gergen defended the general against an ad the liberal group MoveOn.org ran in The New York Times on September 10, titled, "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" Discussing the ad, Gergen asserted: "There has been what appears to be a concerted effort on the part of some, on the left, Democratic Party, to undermine the credibility of General Petraeus before he even speaks, which I think has been a -- I think they've misplayed their hand on this." Gergen added that the ad "struck many Republicans and, frankly, it will strike a lot of fair-minded Americans as a sort of below-the-belt kind of attack before we've even had a chance to hear from one of the most decorated and respected generals in the United States Army."

Later on the program, anchor Kyra Phillips introduced Gergen as "pretty much our go-to guy for political analysis [who] has been talking to us about the political implications of today's testimony." During that interview, Gergen continued to heap praise on Petraeus, saying: "General Petraeus was highly professional, very factual, avoided hyperbole, did not go too far ... did not claim too much success, always ... was cautious." Gergen added: "I think after hearing him with that blizzard of facts and statistics and charts, it's going to be very hard for Democrats now to say, let's pull the plug." Gergen did not reiterate his disclosure of a personal relationship with Petraeus during the second interview.

From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the September 10 edition of CNN Newsroom:

LEMON: And they've also been talking about the cost of the war. They're saying, some of the members of Congress, saying before the testimony, saying that, you know, the -- we are ignoring things here in our own country, infrastructure, and what have you.

And then the big question, having a reliable Iraqi force, they said, in those 134 battalions over there.

David Gergen is standing by, Kyra, to -- he's going to listen in with us and give us some perspective on this. Of course, he's a former adviser to four presidents, so he is sort of our go-to guy today that we're going to talk to him.

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GERGEN: Well, that's right. There has been what appears to be a concerted effort on the part of some, on the left, Democratic Party, to undermine the credibility of General Petraeus before he even speaks, which I think has been a -- I think they've misplayed their hand on this, because that advertisement in The New York Times today by MoveOn.org, you know, saying, Is he "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" You know, I think struck many Republicans and, frankly, it will strike a lot of fair-minded Americans as a sort of below-the-belt kind of attack before we've even had a chance to hear from one of the most decorated and respected generals in the United States Army.

So, I thought that the MoveOn.org people made a mistake by doing that. Their hand was a little too plain, if you would like.

But I also think that it seems undignified. After all, General Petraeus is putting his life on the line over there, too, in running this operation -- and he's come back here. I think he -- I think most people feel, let's give him a hearing.

You know, it was interesting. The New York Times public opinion survey today came out and said that Americans do not give a lot of credibility to politicians about the war. The people they give the most credibility to are the U.S. generals.

PHILLIPS: Well, what's interesting is that Petraeus not only was one of the most popular commanders when it came to the 101st Army Airborne, but also he's an intellectual of sorts, David, a Ph.D. from Princeton.

GERGEN: Yes.

PHILLIPS: And this is a general who came in and devised a team of intellectuals to surround him and support him and to add to that military background, an intense intellectual -- I guess you should say -- round table as he dealt with operations there.

GERGEN: That's right. This is a man who is now in his third tour, who had a celebrated first tour in Iraq in the North, and then came back for a second tour to try to work with the Iraqi army, try to train them up -- that was regarded as less successful -- and now he's back for his third tour.

And he is -- there is a considerable degree to which -- but General Bush -- President Bush went looking for him. He wanted General Petraeus over there. He wanted someone who thought as he did. So, you have to say that there is an alliance of, at least, outlook between the president and General Petraeus at the beginning.

At the same time, General Petraeus has won high marks within the military on all services as one of the most respected, independent-minded men and who -- he really is the -- become a father figure on counterinsurgency. How do you do -- how do you run smart counterinsurgency? He's written a book on that for U.S. Army training.

I must tell you, I have a personal relationship with him, so I'm sure I'm biased in this regard. But I think what he's -- I think all of us are looking forward to, what does he really have to say? Then we can assess it. But it's sort of a -- it seems unfair to load it up against him personally before he's even had a chance to open his mouth in this long-awaited testimony.

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PHILLIPS: As we've been following the testimony today, David Gergen, former adviser to four presidents, pretty much our go-to guy for political analysis, has been talking to us about the political implications of today's testimony.

And David, just to step away maybe for a minute, I know a lot of people -- a lot of us wanting to hear about when will U.S. troops come home, but as the ambassador pointed out, I think it was he said the logic to the legislation and how do you share power and resources and what kind of Iraq do all of those living in Iraq really want.

When it comes down to it, you can beat the insurgency, you can bring troops home, but there has to be some type of understanding on how all these individuals and religious sects want to run this country.

GERGEN: Absolutely. And I think what we heard today were two very different statements that will cut very different ways politically. General Petraeus was highly professional, very factual, avoided hyperbole, did not go too far -- claim -- did not claim too much success, always he was cautious.

I think after hearing him with that blizzard of facts and statistics and charts, it's going to be very hard for Democrats now to say, let's pull the plug. He really fortified -- General Petraeus fortified the case for let's do this slowly and in a measured way. Let's bring the surge troops out but let's not make decisions on the rest.

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    • Author by mary59 (September 10, 2007 7:24 pm ET)
         

      This is so obscene. What a tidy little intellectual whitewash with Gergen and other pundits providing the sanitary napkins.

      I wish anyone doing commentary on the "surge" would visit Walter Reed or another VA hospital each day and change some sheets and bed pans.  Then we might hear a little reality.

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      • Author by heru (September 10, 2007 10:28 pm ET)
           

        All of these Cons are pathological liars. The grand old pervert Larry Craig is a perfect symbol of the GOP

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        • Author by snoopy (September 11, 2007 12:03 am ET)
             

          That is a fact. That's why we'll hear 24/7 about Hillary and Hsu, but not a peep about Romney's bundler who was arrested for sex with minors.

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    • Author by chucko (September 10, 2007 8:22 pm ET)
         

      So Gergen has to admit he has a personal friendship with Petraeus a second time in one day? Once isn't enough?  Give me a break!

      Maybe the second of the two CNN hosts (Kyra) should introduce him as a close friend of the general, but for Gergen or anyone else, that kind of full disclosure by the person him-or-herself is needed only once in a given day on a given network. 

      Having said that, given the above quotes, this wasn't one of Gergen's best days of analysis - too generic in criticizing the left/Dems, and too much ass-kissing of Petraeus.  But we viewers could've come to that conclusion ourselves without even knowing his connection to the general (or being reminded of it every time he comes on the air) .

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      • Author by worrierking (September 10, 2007 9:23 pm ET)
           

        Gergen was on NBC as well. He made no mention of his relationship.

        No network has any business using Gergen to sell this war. 

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      • Author by easygoer002209 (September 11, 2007 8:58 am ET)
           

        Maybe petreaus' mother could stand in for Gergen and tout what a respectible guy he has always been, eh?  since relationships dont matter?

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    • Author by conleytgwinn (September 10, 2007 8:23 pm ET)
         

      I took that Move-On ad as absolutely fair: this piece of work is in fact, betraying us. He (Petraeus) has lied for the Repugnants before, and he's lying for them now. Not only are his "blizzard of facts and statistics and charts" false and misleading, but I recall this is the very guy who assured us we could not sustain the force to continue the surge beyond next spring - and that considerable damage would occur in that force by stretching even that far.

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      • Author by mary59 (September 10, 2007 8:32 pm ET)
           

        Agreed.  He is taking the same road as Colin Powell, who put his credibility on the line to give a trumped up rational at the U.N. for invading Iraq. 

         Both men betrayed us.  Both knew better, but let their ambition get the better of them.

         

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      • Author by jmh (September 12, 2007 2:34 pm ET)
           

        I must disagree. I think the ad does a disservice. Its headline is a sensationalistic slam that does not help any person or cause. I can only assume that it would also serve to relegate MoveOn and the likes of MM, as being fringe extremism in the minds of many

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    • Author by nitpicker (September 10, 2007 8:31 pm ET)
         

      And, of course, we know Petraeus is also "firm friends" with his former doctor, a certain Bill Frist. Perhaps someone should have asked Petraeus what other former Republican officials he hangs out with and whether has any friends on the left side of the aisle.

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    • Author by lostlogic (September 10, 2007 9:36 pm ET)
         

      Sorry this is slightly off topic--sorta.  I am so disgusted right now.   I wanted to hear the discussion  about hte hearings today and in the 9:00pm slot MSNBC devoted a wopping 11 minutes (approx.) to coverage of the hearing part of which was about the protesters who disrupted the hearing and CNN spent about 15 minutes both channels then moved on to a more important topic a little british girl missing for months.  I think this is absolutley disgusting--how can they be so disconnected from what is important.  So then I flip to Fox (in desperation)  and can not believe that General Petraeos and the Ambassador  Crocker thought it would be a good idea to do an exclusive interview with Brit Hume in the midst of their testimony this week.  They have not even completed their testimony and they are doing a PR propaganda stint on FOX.  I don't think it is appropriate for them to appear on these chat shows while giving their testimony...it really shakes their credibility in my opinion.

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      • Author by chucko (September 10, 2007 9:58 pm ET)
           

        Perhaps you are not aware that Petraeus recently did an interview on the Alan Colmes radio show? And I think the BBC as well?

        Petraeus has stressed the importance of being open to the media since he started this surge, doing interviews with the Hugh Hewitts and Alan Colmes of the world.  I'm sure Petraeus at some point will do a 60 Minutes-type interview or CNN interview to balance out his media stops, so chill out for now.

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        • Author by lostlogic (September 10, 2007 10:13 pm ET)
             

          Chucko, you may be right I may be overreacting...I will admit I was pretty steamed by thelack of coverage when I turned on FOX and seeing the flashing exclusive star and seeing Brit Hume interviewing the two just rubbed me really wrong.  I don't know that I would have a problem with previous or future interviews but I don't think it is appropriate for them to be doing the media circuit during their testimony.  After they have done their official business (their testimony)and it is completed then perhaps it would be reasonable to continue the discussion via media apperances.  But to give an exclusive to FOX and to do so during testimony to me leaves a bad impression...and raises the question of partiseanship politics...guiding their testimony.

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          • Author by heru (September 10, 2007 10:31 pm ET)
               

            Any moron who still believes Bush or anything his henchmen say also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Face it, GOP corruption makes the Nazi Party look progressive.

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          • Author by chucko (September 10, 2007 10:32 pm ET)
               

            Agreed. But one question (actually several): I didn't see the interview, but was it really LIVE? Or was it taped? And when was the interview taped? Today or earlier?

            I think it's important that we know when the actual interview happened before we jump all over Petraeus for this.  And it's also important that we monitor other media appearances of his this week. 

            It would say a lot about him if his only cable TV interview this week is on Fox News.  I have a feeling though that other TV interviews are soon to follow this week or weekend, whether he appears on CNN, NBC/MSNBC, CBS or other non-Fox stations.  Only time will tell.

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            • Author by heru (September 10, 2007 10:35 pm ET)
                 

              I have a feeling that Petraeus betrayed this country. Anybody Bush would allow to be a spokesperson is a crook.

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            • Author by lostlogic (September 10, 2007 10:39 pm ET)
                 

              Chucko, It said it was live in the upper left corner of the screen.  Like I said to Pearl below doing this while still giving his testimony appears too much like he is trying to sell and spin something instead of giving straight information to help determin the best course forward.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (September 10, 2007 9:59 pm ET)
           

        Lost it more than shakes General Petraeus's testimony. When you have the record of Fox News and how blind they are in reporting any criticism of the current administration and add "the most important" report on the current "civil war" in Iraq you cannot believe the report is NOT WITHOUT influence from the White House. Out of all the networks to have a "follow up" from today's testimony they chose Fox? Sorry but this just further adds to my disbelief in anything the good general has to say. If he had agreed to go on all networks for 10 minutes a piece, maybe but an exclusive with Fox. NO frinking way.

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        • Author by lostlogic (September 10, 2007 10:35 pm ET)
             

          Pearl, I think the reason it rubbed me so wrong because it looks to much like he is trying to sell the surge and escalation and not giving truthful accurate information to assist in developing a way forward. 

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          • Author by heru (September 10, 2007 10:39 pm ET)
               

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but Petraeus is a low life. What a con job.

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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (September 11, 2007 4:50 am ET)
               

            Lost, he was playing politics pure and simple. His testimony allows temporary cover for those still hiding from the truth about Iraq.

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        • Author by tweakthetroll (September 11, 2007 1:53 pm ET)
             

          Would it have been OK if the General had done his first interview with say, Moveon.org? Would that have had an influence on your opinion of the Generals veracity? Whether true or not Fox is viewed as having done the most fair reporting of the war from the soldiers view point. It sounds as thought you never watch the reports on Fox so you would have no idea if the point was valid. It is a simple observation, and regularly admitted, that so many people here trust reporters to report on a story that they themselves have the opportunity to view but have a personal problem of some kind that physically will not allow them to do so. Whats up with that?

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    • Author by jawill11 (September 10, 2007 9:37 pm ET)
         

      So, if I made a Minnesota Airport bathroom comment here, would I not be supporting the troops?

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    • Author by bruce1ace (September 10, 2007 10:15 pm ET)
         

      Seems to me that MMFA's argument should be that the networks used Gergen at all, not that he admitted his bias.  In fact, I would think it a GOOD THING that he admitted his bias.

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      • Author by Sams Computer (September 11, 2007 12:49 am ET)
           

        Wait Just a Minute ...

        "The Decider" said he would decide things depending on what his generals on the ground told him. That was a lie.

        His generals told him a "Military Surge should be rejected in favor of a "Diplomatic Surge."

        Bush rejected that advice. Bush replaced those generals. He hand picked a general who would attempt to win an unwinable war. Petraeus was picked because he supports what Bush wants to do and his ego may also be at play here.

        I would even bet the ranch that Petraeus is a Republican. Why didn't Fox News ask him about that? Why didn't Petraeus admit like Gergen that he's biased in favor of Bush's Surge?

        You don't have to answer all that.

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        • Author by reprobatemind (September 11, 2007 12:53 pm ET)
             

          SamsComp,

          But isn't Bruce's comment on topic and on target? Setting aside Gen. Petraeus' honesty (or lack thereof), as important as that may be, I too would think it's a good thing that Gergen admits that he himself is biased.

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          • Author by Sams Computer (September 11, 2007 2:10 pm ET)
               

            Yes, I have high praise for Gergen to have admitted his bias. That is RARE INDEED!

            That is unheard of in this day and age. I've seen Gergen come down on both sides of the Island.

            But ... I will say this ... Given his bias, he should have honestly ejected himself from any comments on this specific topic.

            I don't object to Media Matters highlighting this topic. They just pointed out what happened and we are free to comment.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (September 11, 2007 1:02 am ET)
         

      All of the crying and nashing of teeth over the MoveOn advertisement is enough to make one sick. Arent' these the same Republans that sat back and watched(and said nothing) the S*itBoat crowd condemn , demean and lie about an American soldier who did his duty, fought in a war and was decorated for bravery? Where was the OUTCRY from the Hannity,the Limbaugh etc? Can anyone say HYPOCRITES?

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      • Author by BLR (September 11, 2007 12:31 pm ET)
           

        MoveOn sent a notice to its donor segment asking them to contribute towards the ad this past weekend, I was under the impression it was to encourage the truth to come out during the hearings.  When I saw the Patraeus/Betray Us? ad yesterday morning, I felt as if my money had been squandered in yet more combatitive partisanship.

        When I listened to the hearings - from noon to five yesterday - I was satisfied where my money went, and thankful that I had a chance to donate.  This snowjob is unbelieveable, and what is even more troubling is that the Democratic representatives on these committees don't seem to know enough about the situation to ask any meaningful questions.

        By the way, Patraeus flatly denies the bit about the assassinations only counting from the back of the head.  Where did that info come from?

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    • Author by tbone (September 11, 2007 9:09 am ET)
         

      Petraeus is a soldier implementing the mission directed by his CIC.  It is not his place to determine the worthiness of the mission nor criticize it in a public forum.  His obligation is to report facts of the mission.  I did not hear him dissemble in that regard.  He spoke of tactical successes, but not strategic and gave a sobering assessment (surge till next summer).

      It is up to the spineless Congress to note that we are no further along than four years ago (and in some ways worse off), that we are not meeting our strategic goals, and that we have no prospect to do so without many more years, lives, and dollars.  They should move forward on votes to defund this folly EVERY SINGLE DAY.  Unfortunately however, the politics means our "stay and pay" strategy will continue until 1/20/09, it is inevitable.

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      • Author by BLR (September 11, 2007 12:34 pm ET)
           

        "I did not hear him dissemble in that regard.  He spoke of tactical successes..."

        I respectfully disagree.  When you hold up a tactical success as proof of a policy working, and said success is only the direct result of systematic ethnic murder in that province, you are certainly not being forefront if you do not mention said murders, terrorism, and violence.

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    • Author by wizbor4654 (September 11, 2007 1:23 pm ET)
         

      So MM according to your headline, a talking head disclosed their bias. Isnt that what is suppose to happen if Media Matters?

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      • Author by mary59 (September 13, 2007 12:54 am ET)
           

        If media matters, people like Gergen would not be on the airwaves.  They'd have on real reporters and tell the truth.

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