NY Post contradicts itself, misrepresents what Clinton said about proof of health insurance
A September 19 New York Post article on Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-NY) proposed health-care plan bore the headline: "Hill Care-ried Away: Employees Must Prove Insurance" and reported that Clinton said "everyone eventually would have to prove they have health insurance when they apply for a job." But in the next sentence, Post correspondent Geoff Earle quoted Clinton saying that "she could envision a day when 'you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview,' " [emphasis added], not that workers will "have to prove they have health insurance."
The Post headline was similar to a September 18 headline on The Drudge Report, the website operated by Internet gossip Matt Drudge, which read: "HEALTH INSURANCE PROOF REQUIRED FOR WORK", as Media Matters for America documented.
From the September 19 New York Post article:
Hillary Rodham Clinton wants the nation's employers to help enforce her call for universal health insurance.
Clinton, who unveiled a sweeping $110 billion-a-year plan Monday to provide coverage to all Americans, says everyone eventually would have to prove they have health insurance when they apply for a job.
The former first lady said she could envision a day when "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination.
"At this point, we don't have anything punitive that we have proposed," she said.
She said the details of any plan would have to be worked out with Congress, and said there would be a "transition period," adding, "This is not going to happen immediately and be implemented immediately."
Of course it won't happen immediately...Hillary tried the ham-handed approach before and failed miserably. She has not abandoned her attempt to increase government control and intrusion into our lives...she has learned the slow steady drip technique.
A government program of this magnitude is doomed to failure...that's what will happen in the transition phase...because our federal government is generally inept at running most anything.
I think this system takes the government ineptitude largely into account, though. The thing I like about a big part of this system is that the government is not involved much at all. From what I understand, it tries to incorporate private insurance.
From a conservative point of view, I would think this is much more appealing than a single payer system or one of the many proposals with much more government involvement. Then again, from what I read and hear from the conservative point of view, the entire idea of universal healthcare is probably unacceptable in any form at all.
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I'm not badgering...but what makes you think that the government...in an all encompassing healthcare plan...will have little involvement?
The federal government can't even keep track of 15 million illegal aliens...how are they going to efficiently administer a program as large and complex as health care for 300 million people?
medicare operates at a far lower administrative cost than most private insurance companies.
Low cost is not the same as efficiency.
Meidcare worked pretty darn good before they messed with it.
Wes,
I am not an expert, but I think Hillary's approach is the best way to go about this. It looks to me like the system she is setting up doesn't create any new bureaucracy by basically subsidizing the current free-market system.
It is the opposite of a socialistic approach and probably the most practical way to do it.
Hopefully it can be used to increase competition and force some Healthcare providers to increase efficiency as well.
I would like to see a component of this plan that would vastly improve access to and quality of medical education and the issue of malpractice insurance/medical licensing requirements as well. I think those should be discussed as a component of this equation as well.
I would like to see universal healthcare inacted in my lifetime. I don't really care for Hillary that much, but her approach would seem to be far better than any other I have seen so far. In my view, I will not support a plan that does not rely mainly on the private sector for the lion's share of administration.
This administration has no interest in tracking 15 million potential imigrants. Ergo dispite any channels to do so, they don't. One of a number of shared talents of this crowd is the ability to make any branch of the government fail at its procribed task or tasks.
If you think a properly funded and intelligently lead government organization,(admittedly tricky)or say nominal leadership , can't do a good job administrating medical care to 300 million people, well thats a pretty poor veiw of your fellow citizen's abilities and capabilities.
"The federal government can't even keep track of 15 million illegal aliens...how are they going to efficiently administer a program as large and complex as health care for 300 million people?"
Well for starters it's pretty easy to locate 300 million Americans. How do you think we know there's 300 million of us?
on finding those 300 million American citizens ...
Pretty easy to do when the credit card companies and all the financial institutions hand over your info without so much as a warrant ... or even a good reason ...
Pretty easy to find an illegal immigrant ... just look up Republican donors and go to their workplaces ... they're working for the jobs that the employers don't want to pay decent wages would pay Citizens for ...
But let's get back on point.
Surprise, Drudge headlines a lie and it winds up in the NY Post.
Echo chamber? What echo chamber?
Think I'm kidding:
[link to mediamatters.org]
What she means is all the illegals applying without healthcare costing the states and taxpayers. Only her hubby and his Nafta policies allow more H1 Visas and never solved the open southern border problem of 1987 Amnesty. Could it be she had no problem with outsourcing what she considers low wage jobs nobody cares about?
There are a lot of single parent homes that need those jobs. There are a lot of felons that owe child support while serving for non-violent long term sentenses that come home with a felony that prevents them from working even after they have finished their sentense.
John McCain told Lou Dobbs on CNN, they are paying 50 dollars per hour to pick lettuce.
The problem is the industrial complex and corporations pick and choose who they want to work in their fields. They don't have safety or osha on their backs and no bathroom priveleges after sometimes 12 to 16 hours of work. Where do you think they are pooping.
We have American citizens that can use that 50 dollars per hour even 25 per hour right in our prisons. If they are in for non-violence and have children at home because of this economic problem in our communities as far as "jobs nobody wants" then allow our sons and daughters the chance to give back to the communities they failed and learn good ole fashion economics to make sound decisions in the future.
We need a Universal Healthcare payable through our annual income tax per family one price one system. WE need the People's House to oversight this scandalous middleman system, killing our poor through plans that omit critical coverage of procedures needed and denying proper healthcare from patient to doctor.
Once their was a great lawyer in CA, who paid into the company/firms plan for over twenty years. During a high profile case he has a heartattack in court. Proper care for him was denied him and he died, from that coverage not covering him. Twenty years after paying into it and all they have to say is, this policy changed last year?
The insurance companies have no business in my health. If I'm paying taxes in a society that outsources my job income to minimum wage and taxes me like a millionaire, I want my healthcare included in my tax base.
Get the private middleman for profit, who is not private, out my booty health.
You want to do something, start covering these states that are gonna face mad global warming flooding and tornado damage.
Blood sucking, senior citizen swindling, wheelchair chasers.
They want to own everything a human being does and tell you how to do it.
All for a quarterly profit margin.