JustHillary.com headline falsely labeled Clinton as "only Dem not to condemn MoveOn's ad"
A September 21 headline on the political website JustHillary.com falsely claimed that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) was the "only Dem not to condemn MoveOn's ad," a reference to the full-page advertisement on Gen. David Petraeus the liberal organization placed in The New York Times on September 10, titled "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" The JustHillary.com headline read in full: "BETRAYAL: Giuliani blasts Hillary for being only Dem not to condemn MoveOn's ad" and linked to a September 21 article by Glenn Thrush and Craig Gordon posted on Newsday.com that reported that "Clinton was the only one of 25 senators, all Democrats, who opposed Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn's [R-TX] amendment to 'strongly condemn' MoveOn.Org for running newspaper ads referring to the general as 'Betray Us.' "
A version of Thrush and Gordon's article, which correctly noted that Clinton was "only one of 25 senators" to vote against the Cornyn amendment, rather than "the only one of 25 senators," was posted by baltimoresun.com.
But the Thrush/Gordon article did not mention that Clinton, along with 49 other senators, voted for an amendment proposed by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) to "strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization." Boxer's amendment criticized the MoveOn.org ad as "an unwarranted personal attack on General Petraeus" but also condemned Republican-backed attacks against Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) and former Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA).
The only point Democrats should be making on this is that the GOP is wasting the country's time grandstanding because they saw an opportunity to derail honest public dialogue. I was just thinking how I wish to hell that there was at least one Democrat with the good sense to call this what it was and ignore it with dignity and lo and behold Barak Obama refused to even vote on it because it was just a stunt! This is exactly the kind of cutting political instinct and good sense the Democrats have been lacking. I'm definitely supporting Obama for the nomination. Every day something else comes along to reinforce that Hillary will not be seen as much of a new chance as Obama to the swing voters next fall.
Fascinating to see how MMFA is focusing on a little-known blog just because it dares to expose Hillary Clinton. I wonder if John Podesta has given the marching orders to the MMFA leadership.
how was hillary "exposed"? she was not the only democrat to vote against it. that's the point. your point is....?
The worst thing MMFA could do is start fact-checking progressives.
The mission statement of this site is, "comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
I am not condoning progressive misinformation, but the lies coming out of the left are insignificant in number and importance to be a target, given the fact that 91% of talk radio content is conservative, the fact that 60% of US Newspapers have more conservative columnists than they have progressives, and the fact that media consolidation affects us, not them.
I don't have a problem with MMFA posting one little article like this one every now and then; but don't get used to it.
A mistake possibly. As I'm still waiting for a new waterpump for the MindReader"TM". I couldn't say for sure. Could be a lot of bellowing and surity to follow, could be interesting.
More lies to smear Hillary. I just find it so ironic and funny that the senate wanted to condem moveon.org yet allows war criminals to run the war in Iraq and never condem them.
When did calling a spade s spade become a dumb thing to do.
Hillary Clinton knows generals do the commander-inchief's bidding. I would have chosen different words but the fact remains. Doesn't matter if the surge is working on a street corner or an entire province, he can still report the surge is working.
That the folks at MMFA and the Dems can't (or won't) differentiate between the political attacks on Kerry and Cleland and the impugning of Petraeus' integrity by MoveOn is truly sad.
Regardless of the truth of the allegations against Kerry and Cleland, they were political men in political campaigns. Petraeus is a military man doing his duty to his country. He is apparently an honorable man, his report was not a whitewash. No one expects any better from MoveOn, but the Democrats looked like idiots because of their disrespect to him - and they are continuing to spread the same all over their faces with this idiocy.
Go for it, guys. Reid, Pelosi and MoveOn make President Hillary less likely every day!
the commander-in-chief that threw Gen Powell under the bus is still commander-in-chief.
Does his duty to the country include shilling for the White House? Because that's exactly what he is doing.
Once he allowed bush (lowercase intentional, let's have a resolution) to put him out in front of the congress to read the administration talking points, he became nothing more than a political hack. Shame on him for doing the preznit's dirty work. Shame on the right-wing for exploiting it. Shame on the Democrats for not forcefully slapping down that silly-ass resolution denigrating free speech. Shame on you for falling for the right-wing BS.
i still think the ad was counterproductive. this is exactly the type of stuff guys like limbaugh use to portray the democrats as anti-military. why give them ammunition? it could have said something like "please tell the american people the truth, general", and then list all the facts. now, would the ad still be attacked? sure, but then the discussion becomes the facts instead of moveon's motives. we can all sit here and be righteous about how the ad was correct, but that guy out in central kansas is nodding his head when rush says i told you about those liberals. they hate the military. i think moveon should have taken a second look and decided if this ad was going to get the result they wanted. i don't believe it did.
Inasmuch as I contributed for the ad, and previewed it, I will plead guilty: although the ad tells the truth about General BetrayUs, now on at least his third round of lies is support of Bungle's little occupation, it does appear that liars who wear stars are somehow exempt from challenge, even after the pattern of lies is evident. Too bad for those Dems who lack the guts to stand up for MoveOn - which got this story dead right, and should have been commended for the effort.
think whatever you like. i think it was counterproductive and it puts the democrats in a difficult position for all the above reasons. that language is red meat for all the limbaughs, hannitys etc. to use against them. the left hates the military. it takes away from the real issues. i don't believe that's in dispute.
Never acually saw it. Provisionally, I liked the spirit of it. The situation is complex. I hear the organization's coffers are up a half a mil in new donations. Thats a form of effective voting.
The Democratic types have for too long insisted on hitting neocon fists with their faces. Other options are welcome, play it smart, not smart assed.