CNN's Sanchez: O'Reilly "screamed at the top of his lungs for a very long period of time"
SUMMARY: Bill O'Reilly stated that CNN has gone "over to the dark side" for its coverage of O'Reilly's recent statement that he was surprised "there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City ... even though it's run by blacks." O'Reilly said he "talked to CNN last night" before the controversy was discussed on CNN's Out in the Open and "explained the deal." He added, "They went ahead with the racist angle anyway." Out in the Open host Rick Sanchez responded to O'Reilly's assertion: "Never once did we utter the word 'racist' in relation to Bill O'Reilly," adding that O'Reilly "screamed at the top of his lungs for a very long period of time."
During the September 25 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly stated that CNN has gone "over to the dark side" for its coverage of O'Reilly's recent statement, first spotlighted by Media Matters for America, that "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant [in Harlem] and any other restaurant in New York City. It was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks [and has a] primarily black patronship." O'Reilly went on to claim that he "talked to CNN last night" before the controversy was discussed on the September 24 edition of CNN's Out in the Open and "explained the deal." He added, "They went ahead with the racist angle anyway." During the September 25 edition of Out in the Open, anchor Rick Sanchez aired a video clip of O'Reilly's claim that "he talked to CNN last night" and said of O'Reilly's assertion, "Never once did we utter the word 'racist' in relation to Bill O'Reilly." Sanchez added, "One other thing: He talks about calling us and talking to us. In actuality, he called and screamed at the top of his lungs for a very long period of time."
While discussing media coverage of his recent comments, O'Reilly also claimed, "Elements at NBC News have made a living parroting Media Matters garbage. And now sadly, CNN has jumped into the swamp." He later added, "If a slime machine like Media Matters can get its far-left propaganda on CNN and NBC News, the nation is in trouble."
From the September 25 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. CNN goes over to the dark side. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."
Every weekday, we do three hours of commentary -- two on the radio, one on TV. And every day, the far-left smear website Media Matters takes that commentary out of context and feeds the defamation out to the public.
Media Matters, which acts in concert with the now notorious MoveOn, has labeled me anti-black, anti-Hispanic, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. I'm sure I'll be a member of the Manson family shortly.
Of course, this is all nonsense. And we usually ignore it, until it is picked up by the so-called mainstream media. Elements at NBC News have made a living parroting Media Matters garbage. And now sadly, CNN has jumped into the swamp.
Recently on The Radio Factor, I did an hour on how racism is dumb, how it is driven by fear. And I even used my own late grandmother as an example.
Now, you can hear that radio hour on billoreilly.com. It's very interesting discussion. And we didn't hear one complaint about the program that ran on more than 400 radio stations.
Well, yesterday, Media Matters distorted the entire conversation and implied I was racist for condemning racism. Stunningly, CNN echoed the defamation on at least three of its programs.
The reason CNN did this is because its ratings are abysmal. It is getting hammered by Fox News. So they're desperate for attention. And smearing me is one way to get it.
Unfortunately, many in CNN's audience have no idea what I said. And some believe the garbage they are hearing.
Now, I talked to CNN last night before that program. It was obvious they didn't listen to The Radio Factor. So I explained the deal. They went ahead with the racist angle anyway. This is dishonest and dangerous. If a slime machine like Media Matters can get its far-left propaganda on CNN and NBC News, the nation is in trouble.
"Talking Points" has said many times on this broadcast that we respect CNN. We didn't attack them in any way. And in the past, they have been responsible. But this is absurd. The Media Matters defamation was also picked up by the local ABC affiliate here in New York City. Again, totally irresponsible.
From the September 25 edition of CNN's Out in the Open:
SANCHEZ: And we welcome you back. We've been talking about some of the remarks that were made by Bill O'Reilly on his syndicated radio show last week about African-Americans and his visit to a Harlem restaurant. Well, tonight on his program on Fox News, Bill O'Reilly responded to our coverage of his remarks and the reaction.
O'REILLY (video clip): Now, I talked to CNN last night before that program. It was obvious they didn't listen to The Radio Factor, so I explained the deal. They went ahead with the racist angle anyway. This is dishonest and dangerous.
SANCHEZ: Maybe untrue as well, because we went and we checked the transcript. The word "racist" was never mentioned during our show, certainly not by me. Never once did we utter the word "racist" in relation to Bill O'Reilly. Not by me, even not by our guest, Roland Martin, who was here at the time.
One other thing: He talks about calling us and talking to us. In actually, he called and screamed at the top of his lungs for a very long period of time. We've invited Bill O'Reilly, by the way, to come and talk to us. We'll be right back.
This whole spat is now officially getting ridiculous in my book. I'm done.
Bring on something new, please.
Pete, I have to agree.....the comments are out there for anyone to hear if they wish, refereeing one of O'Reilly's dustups with another media competitor is just a futile exercise in "I'm right, they're wrong".
pick any post. repeat ad infinitum.
Pete, have to disagree. There is an organized effort from FOX and most on the Right to shrug this off and sweep it under the carpet without Bill O apoligizing or owning any part of what were at the very least stupid, condescending remarks.
These are the same people who continually set up straw men and clamor unceasingly for other people to explain things they never even implied. These are the people who helped Bush come to power based on the need for Character and Accountability. So when one of their weird little prophets insults millions of Americans and then refuses to own up to it in the least, they deserve to have their feet held to the fire.
This is the very web site that managed to bring some scrutiny on the scrutinizers. So it maybe makes sense for Media Matters to keep ringing the bell for a little while.
No, it's not time to move on. Just the opposite.
It's time to fight fire with fire. These sob's have taken every little thing that anyone on the left has said and rode it for all it's worth long enough. They'll bring it up years later, it's NEVER put to rest.
It's time we replied in kind. Let's run him into the ground and destroy his name. Fire with fire.
What annoys me most is that O'R and Fox are using all of this free publicity to their advantage. Although most people in the public eye would fear that they could lose audience, Fox knows that he's playing to their target audience, so they like it just fine.
Im sorry but i dont think he needs publicity. I actually believe that this site is totally taking advantage of this situation for its publicity though.
I hope they taped it. And play it alongside Howard Dean's outburst. now that would be comedy.
Naaah, even though he is on a rival net, here is almost no way in hell that audio of Falafel-boy having a fit would get played on CNN unless they somehow invoked the Dean speech and still managed to imply that Dean was the crazier of the two.
Just remember, when it comes to anything resembling odd behavior IOKIYAR (it's OK if you're a Republican)
I, for one, would LOVE to hear the "Screaming Billo" call broadcast, but I'm sure those who were the targets of his tirade at CNN didn't think to tape it. I'd love to hear his explanation about that "conversation", as he put it. I'm so tired of this man, I wish he would just disappear. It's hard to believe that there really are people out there who listen to him and believe the junk that comes out of his mouth.
you know what.... O'Reilly never use any media to show what he's saying... at all. If he's a news commentator.. shouldn't he be able to 'show' what he's takling about than just talking..
It says something (something unsurprising, really) about O'Reilly's audience that (if we can believe him) none of his listeners complained.
One of his listeners did call and complain during that show. During that hour. Less than thirty minutes after O'Reilly stuck his foot in his mouth about being surprised by the people at Sylvia's. The caller, "John from Indianapolis" argued that O'Reilly was providing fodder for racists in his audience by unfairly focusing on Ludacris and Twista.
O'Reilly responded by accusing the caller of condoning bad behavior.
The caller suggested that African-Americans should boycott the business that succumb to pressure from O'Reilly to withdraw support for African-American rappers. O'Reilly responded to this by claiming that he's never called for a boycott of anything except France.
All this simply highlights for me that, regardless of whether O'Reilly is overtly or implicitly racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobic, classist, he is above all a man who does not hold himself accountable for what he says.
"If a slime machine like Media Matters can get its far-left propaganda on CNN and NBC News, the nation is in trouble."
Hmmm. Are we also in trouble when the GOP slime machine gets its Far-Right propaganda on CNN, NBC and FOX?
This is getting a bit silly, but the News business has been a joke for the past ten years. After watching the MoveOn.org ad hysteria, I'm convinced that there's little hope for returning to the days of real journalism. I think O'Reilly's biggest mistake was expressing his own "surprise" to find Black people behaving well in a black restaurant. If he had simply stated that, of course there was no difference, it would have been more in keeping with his Juan Williams conversation.
Can't you picture a new network at some point coming in heavy with the old school investigative reporting? I think it would do really well. It would certainly stand out from the field. You could say that the market is demanding it even. They would get smeared like crazy as being 'liberally biased' of course. But that's simply because at this point anything, including simple hard facts that contradict the Right's fantasy world are labeled 'liberal'. Report that American soldiers died today? LIBERAL negativism. These freaks are totally un-American and eventually they will be the marginalized ones.
I wonder if Waldman would still say that MMfA doesn't have it out for Oreally, given the headline and point of this article.
What does it matter if MMFA "ha[s] it out for Oreally or not. The articles either stand on their own or they don't. MMFA is just showing what O'Reilly said, they aren't putting words in his mouth.
Do you think MMFA is being unfair? If so, then how are they being unfair here?
I can tell you that they are not being unfair, but I do not compare this to Imus at all. It is good to highlight O'Reillys stupid comments but I do not think there will be any outcome to this. He is not an Imus and is treated differently plus he has the backing of News Corp. They are very powerful.
The headline of this article is a quote from a third party. And the 'point' is subject to interpretation.
Media Matters has called Bill O'reilly a name. It has never characterized his words or actions, except to show they are false to fact or self-contradictory.
They quote him. And that's enough, most of the time.
does MMfA have it 'out' (maybe 'in'?) for Bill O'Reilly? Why yes, its mission statement is to combat conservative misinformation. Bill does that all the time.
But there's no indication they're after him more than Glen Back or Michael Savage, for example.
And all they need is the ranters' own words.
Who was it who said "If you want to make someone mad, lie; if you want to make someone absolutely livid, tell the truth."
Bill sure is livid today...
Sanchez should start his own segment now called "Worst Individuals on the Planet". He can name Oreilly on it every night and appear on MMFA, he can get free advertisting.
Sue,
Just go over to Olberman's office, climb under his desk, and get it over with, 'kay?
As old as this O'Really/Sylvias thing is getting, your Olberman obsession is far, far more tedious. Seek help. I suggest Captain Morgans Tattoo...
Neon, what does Olbermann have to do with Sanchez?
Oh puh-LEEEEZ. Stop being so disengenuous.
Now that's just pure evil. You need to do the evil laugh now. =)
Neon, I just spit wine on my screen. That is NOT something I want to think about, but it could be the cure. ;-)
Wow, good one, yet another in a series of enclycopedic references to your arch villain, KO.
Nothing will come of this, it sort of will blow over like the homophobic remarks of Tucker Carlson. This is not another Imus.
True, Doris. It's not like Imus.
Imus apologized.
As far as I can tell, this is by no means “done”. O'Reilly remains unable to accept the fact that black people are equal to white people. If he just came out and said that he’s no longer shocked that black people can behave as civilized as white people, this would all blow over.
Whee! This is fun! O'Reilly's an idiot. Nothing will come of this--he makes too much money for FOX--but it never hurts to have an idiot exposed as an idiot to independent voters out there.
What's curious to me is why O'Reilly feels fine calling out Media Matters by name, but can't bring himself to utter the name "Keith Olbermann." "Elements at NBC News." Heh. Indeed. O'Reilly goes after dailykos, he loses two sponsors...O'Reilly goes after Media Matters, he's exposed as a paranoid racist...
Who let the dogs out? Who? Who, who!
welcome to the site. We've got quite a pack here!
Woof!
Ah, dwellers in the pup tense.
If I see a dog with four legs, I would not be shocked.
If I see a woman with two eyes and one nose, I wouln't be shocked.
People are not shocked by things they believe to be the norm.
O'reilly was schocked at the sight of a nice restaurant run by blacks.
Therefore, O'reily thought, at least before he made those comments, that whites were superior to blacks when it comes to restaurant management.
That's the best part of this, as someone else said. O'Reilly, has at his disposal the tapes of the show that his comments came from. He also has at his disposal, the tapes of the CNN show. If he's so sure that he was taken out of context, maybe he could actually SHOW us all where he was taken out of context, and therefore prove Mediamatters and other outlets "wrong" or "dishonest" as Juan Williams likes to say. I mean, if he was taken out of context it should be SOOOOO easy to prove that he was. But alas, all we have is his "word" on that matter. What's even better is that if some people come into this website because Bill O'Reilly mentioned how bad MMFA is, well, people if they read the articles might come away with a different point of view about how "evil" and "bad" this site is and all.
Again though, don't judge a site based on the comments left on here because just like me, most of the rest of you are just schlubs who like to voice their opinions about things, and call stupid people, well, stupid. The content that the site actually puts up, is in my opinion, top notch for the mere reason that they do use the words in context, and that they do provide links to full transcripts, and video where appropriate. They do their research well I think.
Good call on BO'R, ML, and speaking as someone who has been a reader of MMFA since its inception, I welcome all to the perspective.
Here's to the proud Schlubs of Media Matters!
Feel the power of the Dark Side!
O'Reilly has tried to claim that he was taken out of context.
He wasn't though.
His only 'defense' then? To claim that he was taken out of context, and then direct people to his website to listen to the entire hour.
And then hope they don't really do it.
Bill O'Reilly tries to act tough like he's "from the streets", but the fact is, because of his upper class, posh upbringing in Westbury, New York, he, like George Bush, and other elitist twits, is amazed to find his racist naivete is wrong. "But Mumsy always told me all blacks were animals who use 4-letter words!!".
I also love the fact that Bill O'Reilly NEVER takes issue with specific lies, he only makes broad, sweeping attacks. "Smear machine". "Far left". "Dark Side". When rightwingers like the GOP Swiftboaters, or Rush Limbaugh, make any number of outrageous, flat-out lies, Media Matters and others 'Print those lies' to make a point as to why it's a lie, and/or how moronic those words are. When your words are taken verbatim, and all you can do is say, "They're smearing me", it's apparent that you've got nothing with which to counter their argument. If O'Reilly wants to pretend that he has a "news" show, can't he do SOMETHING substanitive to dispute any so-called smears? If it's baseless, and there is nothing to the attacks, then he should be able to prove it's slander. But, of course, he can't. And he knows his audience is dumb enough to fall for "far left" as a defense, and hope that will be the end of it.
For the sake of the thousands of new visitors, when bill0 (that's bill with a zero, ha ha) says things like " a slime machine like Media Matters" he is showing his true colors. He is a bully, plain and simple. He get's quoted quite often saying insensitive and disparaging statements and then goes off like an ill tempered bully on whoever quotes him. You have to admit the crazy dude from Iran showed more class at Columbia the other day after Bollinger ripped him a new one than bill0 ever has.
BillO has exhausted his audience. The proof is in his tumbling ratings.
Not long ago, the lies, yelling & attacks were "fun"...now his Clown College shtick just make people tired.
BillO embodies Bush: Stupidity is a virtue; mendacity is a strength.
Imagine how BillO longs to turn off all those traditional media microphones right about now.
Oh good lord, what's next?
"They're all against me! Dammit, I'm all alone! I bet that John Gibson guy is already angling for my slot!"
Bill, you said something that was not even close to being ambiguous. You made it sound like, prior to your visit to Sylvia's, you thought all black people were Fitty Cent.
And surprise surprise, some of "them" are hard-working people who want a piece of the American dream the way your Irish ancestors probably didn't: by working hard, harder than your white grandfather ever had to.
What's next, Bill? Some of "them" are your best friends?
Grow up. Even Imus apologized.
This may be the worst kind of racism.
It's insideous. Instead of being like a bullet wound, it's like a cancer.
It's not "Lets go burn a cross on somebodies lawn", or "Black people are not allowed in this apartment complex.". It's the "I would never say it out loud or even realize I think it, but black people really are inferior." kind of racism.
Ugly. Very ugly, Bill.
It's been reported that Bill O'Reilly once dinned at Manhattan's famed but now closed 2nd Avenue Deli and was spotted very easily getting over the fact that the Jews were behaving respectfully and not kvetching 'Oy, M-Fer, bring me more soup!'
I find all this ever so amusing. Every time a item of critical import hits the news, in this case Dan Rathers recent actions, some right wing clown says something to refocus the medias attention away.
A meaty story like Rather suing his former employer might just give forum to actually finding the real facts behind the Baby Bush's military record.
I don't recall what the issue was when Captain Bowtie did his homophobic thing, but I'm sure it was something embaressing to the administration.
Why is all the commentary on CNN, MSNBC, etc. leaving out the most egregious comment, which was quoted by Media Matters Tue, Sep 25, 2007 2:27pm ET in "NY's WABC interviewed Harlem restaurant patrons about O'Reilly's comments"?
O'REILLY: There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, "M-Fer, I want more ice tea."
Sure, all the stuff about how O'Reilly is amazed that black people can run a business just like anyone else is bad. But good lord, the comment above is the only one needed to show how twisted O'Reilly's understanding about black people is.
I completely agree with the characterization that his is a velvet glove racism. He's so racist he doesn't even realize he's racist. It's just part of his white-guy-superiority-over-everyone-else attitude that's present in just about everything he says. His ignorance of his ignorance is what makes him terribly dangerous; he delivers his pronouncements with the authority not even of the self-deluded but of the man who doesn't have a clue about how wrong he is about the world outside of his bubble.
Remind everyone about that one statement, and I doubt that many people will be able to see it as something that's a "spat" that's getting ridiculous.
"His ignorance of his ignorance is what makes him terribly dangerous" (Scrabbledemon)
Nicely put, and a good answer to those who want this to be ignored (OK, it may have enough items on MMFA for one day).
While it's a relatively insignificant item, just another blowhard talking head making an ignorant comment, I find these items interesting for the by-products-
Defenders in the media, the perps themselves, digging themselves in deeper by exposing their own "ignorance of their ignorance", and the posters who come here, either to contort themselves into ridiculous explanations of why we should ignore our own eyes and ears and listen to the "explanations", or for these posters to reveal that they'r every bit as "ignorant of their own ignorance" as the BilldO's of the world.
Recent gems on display at MMFA by the conservative contingent;
--The entire hour of discussion wasn't posted, making the very clear comments "out-of-context"
-- Bill was "in character", expressing the point of view of somebody who was racist, in order to fight racism.
-- Juan Williams, Spokesnegro, "explained" that there was "rank dishonesty" involved in quoting BilldO, blocking any criticism by AAs, ever.
I like knowing who's out there.There even seemed to be a mini-invasion, or the Factor short bus broke down nearby, as several posters I'd never seen before dropped in to "pity" the people here, and be offended by the hatred and condescension expressed by those pointing out BilldO's racism and ignorance.
Not offended that their hero has just noticed that Black people aren't savages, and is reporting it to his audience as news, but offended that there are people here who will point to O'Reilly and say "what a jackass!"
Juan Williams, Spokesnegro, "
HBL that's too funny and true. Thanks I'm going to remember to call him by his proper name. :-)
Glad to see you decided to start breathing again HB. ;-)
It is wall to wall Bill today. Is your name Bill? The FTS has Billville. It was destroyed by a Tornado, a flood, economic ruin, and partiscipents in a round the country race, some appartently pulling several Mach numbers went though town.
Would I wish this on Bill? I'm a reasonable man, lets talk numbers. Seven is my favorite.
You are right, snoopy. The right wing nuts can't stand it when someone tells the truth. They rant and rave, demand apologies, until finally the Left says, Ok, Ok, we're sorry, just calm down. We apologise for telling the truth, and getting you all upset.
As I see it, the problem with people like Sen. Craig and O'Reilly is not so much the behaviour that they are so embarrased about, but the hypocrisy behind it. They think it is OK to lie and spin, and embrace the dark side, as long as they don't get caught at it.
To paraphrase the bard, "Me thinks he doth protest too much."
SO MUCH O'REILLY!
Thank you MMFA, and thank you Bill for being such an entertaining jackass.
Is this supposed to be real news? It seems like tabloid garbage to me. I dont think Oreilly is a racist. I think you guys are hyping this up, I was listening to the show that day as i always do.
You're racist, Bill. Everybody already knows this, so why don't we just move on...
just came on board to see what kind of comments were being posted and by what sort of people..........some pretty scary stuff from people who sound very angry, sarcastic, full of themselves and feeding off eachother's negativity, perversely so. pathetic.
Yeah, DBrower, but without those Republicans who post here it wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.