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O'Reilly: "[T]he far-left smear website Media Matters ... feeds the defamation out to the public"

September 26, 2007 1:04 pm ET

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During the September 25 edition of his Fox News show, responding to criticism of his recent statement, documented by Media Matters for America, that "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant [in Harlem] and any other restaurant in New York City ... even though [Sylvia's is] run by blacks," Bill O'Reilly accused Media Matters of taking his comments "out of context." During his nightly "Talking Points Memo," he said that, "[e]very weekday, we do three hours of commentary -- two on the radio, one on TV" and claimed that, "every day, the far-left smear website Media Matters takes that commentary out of context and feeds the defamation out to the public." O'Reilly added: "[W]e usually ignore it, until it is picked up by the so-called mainstream media. Elements at NBC News have made a living parroting Media Matters garbage, and now, sadly, CNN has jumped into the swamp." He also asserted: "Media Matters distorted the entire conversation and implied I was racist for condemning racism. Stunningly, CNN echoed the defamation on at least three of its programs."

Media Matters provided the full transcript and audio of his comments talking about his dinner at Sylvia's with Rev. Al Sharpton.

Later, discussing other news organizations' coverage of O'Reilly's comments, Fox News contributor Juan Williams accused CNN of "rank dishonesty" and told O'Reilly: "They want to shut you up. They want to shut up anybody who has an honest discussion about race." Then, in response to O'Reilly's claim that "CNN has joined NBC News in parroting far-left propaganda in an attempt to destroy me and Fox News Channel," Williams said, "[T]hey want to marginalize you, Bill," later stating: "[W]hen you said you went up to Sylvia's, you said you went in there; the place was a normal restaurant, healthy discussion, people were pleased, and, in fact, they celebrated the fact that here is Bill O'Reilly with Al Sharpton -- 'Oh, my gosh, two celebrities are in the house.' And then you said everything settled down like a normal restaurant, ethnic like an Italian-neighborhood restaurant." O'Reilly replied: "Yeah ... it was an attempt to tell the radio audience that there is no difference." In fact, what O'Reilly said was:

O"REILLY: Now, how do we get to this point? Black people in this country understand that they've had a very, very tough go of it, and some of them can get past that, and some of them cannot. I don't think there's a black American who hasn't had a personal insult that they've had to deal with because of the color of their skin. I don't think there's one in the country. So you've got to accept that as being the truth. People deal with that stuff in a variety of ways. Some get bitter. Some say, [unintelligible] "You call me that, I'm gonna be more successful." OK, it depends on the personality.

So it's there. It's there, and I think it's getting better. I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out: "Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."

You know, I was up in Harlem a few weeks ago, and I actually had dinner with Al Sharpton, who is a very, very interesting guy. And he comes on The Factor a lot, and then I treated him to dinner, because he's made himself available to us, and I felt that I wanted to take him up there. And we went to Sylvia's, a very famous restaurant in Harlem. I had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful. They all watch The Factor. You know, when Sharpton and I walked in, it was like a big commotion and everything, but everybody was very nice.

And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference. There may be a cultural entertainment -- people may gravitate toward different cultural entertainment, but you go down to Little Italy, and you're gonna have that. It has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin.

Finally, in a discussion with syndicated radio show host Laura Ingraham during his nightly "Unresolved Problem" segment, Ingraham stated: "And here comes this ridiculous, out-of-context play-around with your words when you were doing a segment condemning racism. It gets run on a [George] Soros-funded website. Then it gets picked up by lazy, lame-stream, dinosaur, old media, who are desperate for ratings. It is par for the course." As Media Matters has repeatedly noted (here, here, and here), O'Reilly has made numerous and varying assertions about a link between Media Matters and Soros, and he has even created a "chart" purporting to depict Soros' "complicated political operation" in which "Soros and a few other wealthy radicals who help him are funneling money into the political process" by funding Media Matters. As previously indicated, Media Matters has never received funding from Soros, either directly or indirectly.

From the September 25 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

SANCHEZ [video clip]: He has some very strong things to say about some things that people are saying about him.

O'REILLY: CNN enters the dark side, spouting unbelievable far left propaganda. We'll have a report.

[...]

Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly -- thanks for watching us tonight. CNN goes over to the dark side. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."

Every weekday, we do three hours of commentary -- two on the radio, one on TV -- and every day, the far-left smear website Media Matters takes that commentary out of context and feeds the defamation out to the public.

Media Matters, which acts in concert with the now notorious MoveOn, has labeled me anti-black, anti-Hispanic, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. I'm sure I'll be a member of the Manson family shortly.

Of course, this is all nonsense, and we usually ignore it, until it is picked up by the so-called mainstream media. Elements at NBC News have made a living parroting Media Matters garbage, and now, sadly, CNN has jumped into the swamp.

Recently on The Radio Factor, I did an hour on how racism is dumb, how it is driven by fear, and I even used my own late grandmother as an example.

Now you can hear that radio hour on BillOreilly.com. It's very interesting discussion. And we didn't hear one complaint about the program that ran on more than 400 radio stations.

Well, yesterday, Media Matters distorted the entire conversation and implied I was racist for condemning racism. Stunningly, CNN echoed the defamation on at least three of its programs.

The reason CNN did this is because its ratings are abysmal. It is getting hammered by Fox News, so they're desperate for attention -- and smearing me is one way to get it.

Unfortunately, many in CNN's audience have no idea what I said, and some believe the garbage they are hearing.

Now, I talked to CNN last night before that program. It was obvious they didn't listen to The Radio Factor, so I explained the deal. They went ahead with the racist angle anyway. This is dishonest and dangerous. If a slime machine like Media Matters can get its far-left propaganda on CNN and NBC News, the nation is in trouble.

"Talking Points" has said many times on this broadcast that we respect CNN. We didn't attack them in any way. And in the past, they have been responsible -- but this is absurd. The Media Matters defamation was also picked up by the local ABC affiliate here in New York City -- again, totally irresponsible.

Finally, CNN did a documentary a few weeks ago by Christiane Amanpour. In that documentary, Ms. Amanpour put forth that religion has caused a lot of pain in the world. Now some considered her presentation anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. We could have easily hammered CNN and Ms. Amanpour. It would have been simple to do that, but we did not. They reported; the audience is smart enough to decide if anti-religion bias was present.

Failure leads to desperation. The Factor has been No. 1 for six consecutive years and defeats our cable news competition combined. The other cable news outlets are ratings disasters.

Last night, the Factor had six times as many viewers as CNN at 8:00 p.m., but that is no excuse for being dishonest -- and that's the Memo.

Now, for the top story tonight: Juan Williams was a big part of that Radio Factor hour. He joins us now from Washington with reaction.

You know, I'm all -- this is almost funny, if it wasn't so dangerous for the nation. We had you on because your book, Enough, which is now out in paperback, is a very intelligent discussion about racism in America, and to set up your appearance, I told l people about my grandmother and how she feared blacks even though she didn't know any blacks.

And then I proceeded to tell the audience how ridiculous the fear was by recounting a story about me going to Sylvia's restaurant in Harlem with Al Sharpton. Now, you heard the comments. You saw everything. What do think about this dishonesty at CNN?

WILLIAMS: It's rank dishonesty. And the troubling thing is that if I hadn't participated in the discussion, if I was just tuning in to CNN, or listening to MSNBC, and heard that "Oh, Bill O'Reilly said he went to Sylvia's restaurant in Harlem and they weren't using MF and all this kind of stuff," I'd say "Oh, my God. What is he thinking? Where is that coming from? Why did he say something like that?" not understanding that that discussion -- Bill O'Reilly, you know, I'm telling you it's just -- it's so frustrating.

They want to shut you up. They want to shut up anybody who has an honest discussion about race. You mentioned your grandmother. You mentioned the idea that you know what? Your grandmother didn't know any black people. She watches TV. She gets these negative, horrible images of black people, and you had to say to her, "Grandma, you don't know anybody. You don't understand. I mean, you know, what are you going to say about Nat King Cole? What are you going to say about people like Willie Mays? What are you going to say about people that you admire?"

And now they take this discussion and somehow turn it on its head. I just -- I'm really appalled, and I say that as someone, you know, who's -- I mean, I just can't believe that this is going on. It's outrageous because the discussion we had was about how, too often, the images on TV are these rappers glorifying drugs, glorifying violence, degrading women, and that people like your grandmother -- and I defended your grandmother -- I said, "Your grandmother's watching TV and what does she see? All these negative images of black people."

O'REILLY: Yeah, I was tougher on my grandmother than you were.

WILLIAMS: Yeah.

O'REILLY: I mean, but anybody listening to it -- and we have it on BillOreilly.com, so the whole world can listen to it -- would, I think, have appreciated the discussion for being an exposition of why people are afraid of not only blacks, but everybody they don't know. That was the theme.

But here's the danger, Juan. I've been attacked 109 times in one year by Media Matters. They attack conservative and traditional commentators. They never attack liberals. OK?

This -- what can we do? It's freedom of speech. They can do whatever they want.

But CNN knew this was distorted, knew what they were doing was wrong, because we told them -- and put it on anyway. So, now what you have is CNN has joined NBC News in parroting far left propaganda in an attempt to destroy me and the Fox News Channel and to deceive their viewers. I think -- I've never seen anything like this in the media, ever.

WILLIAMS: Well, you know what?

O'REILLY: In a presidential year, this becomes ultra-dangerous. Go ahead.

WILLIAMS: It's very dangerous,, but it's -- they're -- they want to marginalize you, Bill. They want to shut you up.

But here is my complaint. They're trying to shut up anybody who's having an honest thought about race relations in this country and wants to speak honestly about the damage being done by the likes of these rappers and these comedians who use the "N" word --

O'REILLY: Absolutely.

WILLIAMS: -- and all of that. You know what? They don't -- they're willing to celebrate Snoop Dogg or Twista or any of these guys who go out there and present these minstrel-show images of black people.

But then when these images go out and they impact not only white people -- and I think too often white people enjoy watching black people act the fool on TV -- these minstrel shows like Flavor of Love and all the rest, but it has such a pernicious impact on young black people who are trying to establish their own identify because they say --

O'REILLY: Right, and that's the theme of --

WILLIAMS: -- if you act -- if you walk around like a clown and talk badly, that's authentically correct.

O'REILLY: That's cool, right.

WILLIAMS: Oh, my gosh.

O'REILLY: And that's what you talk about in the book, and that's what our discussion was about.

WILLIAMS: That's what the discussion was about.

O'REILLY: Right.

WILLIAMS: And when you said you went to up to Sylvia's, you said you went in there; the place was a normal restaurant, healthy discussion, people were pleased and, in fact, they celebrated the fact that here is Bill O'Reilly with Al Sharpton -- "Oh, my gosh, two celebrities are in the house."

And then you said everything settled down like a normal restaurant, ethnic like an Italian-neighborhood restaurant --

O'REILLY: Yeah, there wasn't any -- it was an attempt to tell the radio audience that there is no difference.

WILLIAMS: Correct.

O'REILLY: Black, white, we're all Americans. The stereotypes they see on television are not true. None of that --

WILLIAMS: That's right and I'm glad you said that.

O'REILLY: None of that was mentioned. Right.

WILLIAMS: You should repeat that so they hear it again. You said, "Stereotypes are not true." I said to [you,] you should go up there more often. It shouldn't be a foreign trip. But it had nothing to do with races ranting by anybody --

O'REILLY: Right.

WILLIAMS: -- except these idiots at CNN.

O'REILLY: Well, CNN has lost all credibility with me and this network, and it's just a shame. We knew that MSNBC were a bunch of smear merchants. We didn't expect this from CNN.

Juan, thanks very much. By the way, Al Sharpton will be here tomorrow. He was my dinner companion up there, and it should be an interesting discussion.

[...]

O'REILLY: "Unresolved problem" segment tonight: Most of the left-wing press in America condemned Ahmadinejad's words, but not his appearance at Columbia University.

Joining us now from Indianapolis to analyze -- radio talk show star Laura Ingraham, the author of the No. 1 New York Times best-seller, Power to the People. Congratulations to you. That will tee them off over there. Your book debuts at No. 1.

LAURA INGRAHAM: Oh, they're not going to like it. Thanks, Bill.

O'REILLY: Good for you. Good for you.

INGRAHAM: Thank you.

O'REILLY: You want to react to the CNN thing with Juan Williams? I just -- you know, just when I think it can't get any worse, it gets worse.

INGRAHAM: Well, Bill, actually, during the break, I went on one of the Soros websites -- the websites that he funds -- and not only are you racist, anti-Semitic, anti-Hispanic, you also are now are [sic] anti-Eskimo. So there's something else going on in the air. So, it's just --

O'REILLY: What did I do to be anti-Eskimo?

INGRAHAM: I don't know. I'm looking into it, but it's -- but, look, here's where we are. We have these so-called mainstream media in the United States. CNN is still part of it, even though it's on cable. And they always are saying that the bloggers can't be trusted because the bloggers don't do enough investigation, that CNN and ABC and NBC, they have the investigative teams, and they're going to give us the real news.

Remember during the Swift Boat situation and with the National Guard documents? And here comes this ridiculous out of context play around with your words when you were doing a segment condemning racism. It gets run on a Soros-funded website.

Then it gets picked up by lazy, lame-stream, dinosaur, old media, who are desperate for ratings. It is par for the course. They're basically just going to the Internet, not doing any work, and repeating.

O'REILLY: Right.

INGRAHAM: And that's actually -- that's dangerous.

O'REILLY: But they were told, and they knew it was dishonest and did it anyway.

But here's the thing: In a presidential year, you now have two outlets -- NBC News and CNN, which we proved -- we have proven, are taking far left propaganda and spitting it out at their audience, and that's dangerous, because how are people going to be able to make an intelligent decision on who to vote for?

INGRAHAM: Well, I think we have to be responsible news consumers, even if they're not responsible news producers. That means we have to watch this show, other great shows on Fox, go on cable networks that will actually give you a different perspective, maybe even a spiritual perspective.

O'REILLY: But you're asking people to be responsible, Laura, and you know that a lot of people --

INGRAHAM: Yeah, we have to be.

O'REILLY: -- just aren't. They're just going to be --

INGRAHAM: Well --

O'REILLY: -- swayed by it.

INGRAHAM: Right, I think -- yeah. I think you're right, but, look, I think it's been proven now The New York Times is in the pocket of groups like MoveOn.org. George Soros is -- I think he's still shorting the dollar, isn't he? I mean, he's always betting against America.

O'REILLY: This guy might buy the election, Soros. He's got a lot of power. As you said, he runs these websites --

INGRAHAM: Well --

O'REILLY: -- and they do this dishonest stuff --

INGRAHAM: Yeah.

O'REILLY: -- and now it's picked up.

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    • Author by snoopy (September 26, 2007 1:11 pm ET)
         

      Yup, coulda apologized for being insensitive, but not Bill. As a matter of fact, I'd say he's - livid.

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      • Author by vysotsky (September 26, 2007 1:53 pm ET)
           

        I'd say indignant.  It reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men when Cruise's Lt. Kaffee  catches Nicholson's Col. Jessep in the contradiction that "if you ordered Santiago not to be harmed, and your orders are always followed, then why did you think he was in so much danger as to warrant transferring him off the base?"

        O'REILLY: Yeah, there wasn't any -- it was an attempt to tell the radio audience that there is no difference.

        But if O'Reilly really thinks that race is an overblown issue and that everyday experiences should be sufficient to counter media stereotypes, then why did he have to explain this to his audience and offer them a scenario in which one is surprised to discover that the people in a Harlem restaurant are polite?  Unless, of course, O'Reilly is acknowledging racism in his audience...

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      • Author by JimLehrer (September 26, 2007 7:00 pm ET)
           

        Poor, Poor MMFA and Keith Olbermann.

        How many times have we been through this? O'Reilly says something controversial (or stupid as in this case)  and Media matters and Keith Olbermann endlessly harp on it to their pathetically small venues in the hopes that it will bring the evil Billo down.

        Bill's ratings were actually up this summer from this time last year and Fox News still dominates cable ratings. But keep trying MMFA/Olbermann you've only been trying and failing for years now and you're going to fail yet again with this.

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        • Author by historygeek001 (September 27, 2007 10:14 am ET)
             

          Do you actually follow the ratings?  And did you actually pay attention to what Bill said?

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          • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (September 27, 2007 6:49 pm ET)
               

             historygeek001 , there's a pretty sizable little gang of Ratings Queens that post here.Having nothing to defend their masters with as far as facts, they can always find comfort in the idea that there are a few million as stoopid as they are.

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    • Author by shoes89 (September 26, 2007 1:12 pm ET)
         

      1. "Media Matters provided the full transcript and audio of his comments talking about his dinner at Sylvia's with Rev. Al Sharpton."

      MM is now moving the goalpost. They did not provide the full transcript of the hour-long discussion.

      2. Juan Williams, who actually participated in the original discussion, has called out the media (CNN, in particular) for its "rank dishonesty" in propagating this bogus "story."

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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (September 26, 2007 1:27 pm ET)
           

        Do you honestly think that Juan Williams was going to call out BOR?

        Why do you think BOR was surprised by the patrons  at the restaurant? 

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (September 26, 2007 9:14 pm ET)
             

          These wags make too much money showing up for these spots to question anyone or anything. That's a big problem in the MSM.

          I love the fact that O'Reilly quotes "109 times" that he's been cited by MMFA. Why's he counting? Why's he care?

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      • Author by solon (September 26, 2007 1:46 pm ET)
           

        Of course they didnt it would constitute copyright infringement. The rank dishonesty is YOURS we have already established that.

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      • Author by MickD (September 26, 2007 1:46 pm ET)
           

        Williams defends a guy on the same payroll as he is. Film at eleven.

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        • Author by Sueelldd (September 26, 2007 1:57 pm ET)
             

          Steven A Smith defended him last night on Abrams show on MSNBC. Smith works for ESPN.  Why would he come out and defend OReilly to the dismay of the MSNBC Hacks? Oreilly said a stupid think , but this is being exploited by MSNBC and CNN.

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          • Author by Preston (September 26, 2007 2:12 pm ET)
               

            Yeah, but John Ridley -- someone I usually can't stand -- disagreed with Stephen A. Smith last night on Abram's and felt that O'Reilly's comments were indeed ignorant and patronizing. It even got heated between Ridley and Smith last night about this issue.

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          • Author by open_mind (September 26, 2007 2:15 pm ET)
               

            O'Reilly could have stopped everything with an apology.  His entire show was completely patronizing.  O'Reilly needs to go back to the drawing board on race.  Maybe some of the concepts are just way too subtle for him.

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          • Author by therick (September 26, 2007 3:09 pm ET)
               

            "Oreilly said a stupid think , but this is being exploited by MSNBC and CNN."--Sueeld

            So, the exploiter is being exploited.  Even if that were true, too damn bad.

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            • Author by stevensm (September 26, 2007 8:36 pm ET)
                 

              "the exploiter is being exploited"

              Well put, Rick. BOR keeps going on about how he's being taken out of context. Well, he's NOT being taken out of context by MM and he has a lot of nerve even saying that. He's the guy who edited out many contextual parts of the audio when he went after Boulder High. He's being smeared? LOL! Pretty funny coming from someone who makes a living smearing others with whom he disagrees. In addition to his out of context claim, he's also saying they are all doing for money and ratings. BOR is getting desperate.

              I just heard him say on his TV show that MM accused him of racism. MM defamed him. Where did MM accuse him of racism? Where did MM defame him? Where did they call him a racist? He also said they attacked him. Where did they attack him? BOR can't prove any of what he said because MM did NOT do what he accuses them of doing. They posted his own words and people draw their own conclusions. MM did not defame, call names or attack. BOR defamed himself with his own words. He also said they fabricated the story. No, the did NOT. BOR actually said those innappropriate and very poorly words.

              He even had the gall to quote an unscientific AOL poll as believing him. How do we know that a bunch of BOR fans didn't go over there and flood the poll so that it would come out in his favor? We don't...bogus point, BOR.

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      • Author by bittermarv (September 26, 2007 4:50 pm ET)
           

        MM is now moving the goalpost. They did not provide the full transcript of the hour-long discussion.

        Heh.  How about providing the part of the hour long discussion that we missed that makes his statements non-racist? 

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    • Author by open_mind (September 26, 2007 1:17 pm ET)
         

      Okay, MMFA, we get it.  Three articles today (the first three at that - maybe more on the way) about this complete idiot?

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      • Author by jeter2 (September 26, 2007 2:23 pm ET)
           

        Okay, MMFA, we get it.

        I'm gonna second that Open_mind.

        Billy showed his ignorance [or perhaps naivety?] about African-Americans.

        It's all over the media, including the MSM. You got him!

        Now please can we move on to something else?

        O'Reilly is really not that important in the larger scheme of things.

        This may have finally marginalized him for good. So good work, and on to other things, ok?

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        • Author by open_mind (September 26, 2007 2:45 pm ET)
             

          Yeah.  I am trying to get into this today, but I think I'm done for a while.  Every article so far today has been on this guy.  Oh well.  Maybe it is time for me to catch up on how the Cubbies are doing - maybe take a little MMFA vacation.

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        • Author by bittermarv (September 26, 2007 4:41 pm ET)
             

          O'Reilly could have shut down the entire controversy with an acknowledgment that he flubbed up.  An apology would have gone even further.

          If you want to blame someone for keeping this story of O'Reilly's racist remarks alive, blame O'Reilly. 

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        • Author by MiddleLeft (September 26, 2007 5:47 pm ET)
             

          O'Reilly is really not that important in the larger scheme of things.

          You are saying that the most popular right wing propogandist on TV with more viewers than anybody else who constantly earns complaints for unfair reporting is not all that important. 

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    • Author by vysotsky (September 26, 2007 1:17 pm ET)
         

      O'Reilly: "Now you can hear that radio hour on BillOreilly.com. It's very interesting discussion. And we didn't hear one complaint about the program that ran on more than 400 radio stations."

      I took O'Reilly's challenge and listened to the hour of his show in which this comment aired.  And guess what: at minute 32, a caller complained that O'Reilly's discussion was actually racially divisive.

      O’Reilly: “John from Indianapolis, what say you, John?”

      Caller: “I think your spinning and bloviating does not do the black community justice. You’re just giving fodder to your viewers who have a negative view of black people anyway. So your twist play on a couple of Twistas and Ludacrises and the large general population is shameful. I think you’re ruining people’s opportunity to make income and I wish black America would wake up and start boycotting these companies that you convince to boycott artists. Who are you going to go after next?”

      O’Reilly: “I’m going to go after anybody who rewards bad behavior. And just because you condone bad behavior is not going to stop me.”

      Does O'Reilly not listen to his own show??? 

      Well, to be fair, I can hardly blame him if that's the case.  I could barely listen to just one hour.

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      • Author by snoopy (September 26, 2007 1:21 pm ET)
           

        I found this statement quite telling:

        WILLIAMS: It's very dangerous,, but it's -- they're -- they want to marginalize you, Bill. They want to shut you up.

        Williams defending a buffoon who has been trying to marginalize MMFA, daily kos and anything else he dislikes has got to be the epitomy of ignorance. Williams is a paid hack, not a liberal by any means.

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        • Author by vysotsky (September 26, 2007 1:31 pm ET)
             

          I really feel for Williams.  He's in an awful position.  The guy is just trying to promote his book, and now he's stuck with the impossible task of defending O'Reilly.

          I cringed when I heard him say: 

          Williams: "...And then you said everything settled down like a normal restaurant..."

           

          Poor bastard.

          There's just no way to sufficiently sugar coat this.  I think O'Reilly genuinely believes that his discussion on his show was anti-racist.  But race is a complicated issue, and O'Reilly's attempt to illustrate the current state of American race relations with a vignette about how his visit to a Harlem restaurant with Sharpton showed him that everybody's the same rightly backfired for the same reason Williams' comment backfired.  "Like a normal restaurant?"  I know where Williams is coming from, but the statement does as much to propagate racism as it does to counter it. 

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    • Author by nerzog (September 26, 2007 1:19 pm ET)
         

      I find all the conservative whining and hand-wringing over this hysterical, particularly after the week-long Media Orgy over the MoveOn.org ad.

      Meanwhile, in the REAL news, the U.S. State Department is blocking Congressional investigations into contractor corruption in Iraq. Maybe the talking heads will briefly mention it between stories on Hillary Clinton's body language and Bill O'Reilly's rantings about those nasty liberals who are out to get him.

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    • Author by foghornleghorn (September 26, 2007 1:23 pm ET)
         

      Well, you've got to call a spade a spade.  

      O'Reilly is one of those "closet" racists that uses code words that appeal to his base viewers.

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    • Author by solon (September 26, 2007 1:50 pm ET)
         

      What he means by defaming is spreading around WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID beyond the inbred world of brainwashed Fox propaganda consumers

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    • Author by MiddleLeft (September 26, 2007 1:54 pm ET)
         

      And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City.

      Someone please explain to me how this qualifies as speaking out against racism.   If that claim was true, he would have said "just as I expected" there was no difference between.....

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    • Author by Blackacre (September 26, 2007 2:05 pm ET)
         

      Accurately quoting someone's words is not defamation.  What was the defamatory statement, Bill?   

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    • Author by ysbaddaden20035928 (September 26, 2007 3:04 pm ET)
         

      I druther be fed defamation than defecation.

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    • Author by tmfa (September 26, 2007 5:36 pm ET)
         

      MMFA lie's again..

      Waldman" We put up the full audio and full transcript"

      Oh really??? How come the clips is 5 seconds long when the entire segment is 40 minutes long and starts with "Now how did we get to this point?"  Yea, because you start segements with "Now"

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (September 26, 2007 7:31 pm ET)
           

        2 minutes of Fox causes ear bleeding

        4 minutes of Fox causes blindness

        40 minutes of Fox cause you to become one of the many stupid, uninformed, kool-aid drinking to dumb to realise that your leader has racists thought and to dumb to know that if he can't explain his racists remarks your a fool to try .

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      • Author by bittermarv (September 26, 2007 9:52 pm ET)
           

        MMFA lie's (sic) again..

        Waldman" We put up the full audio and full transcript"

        Oh really??? How come the clips (sic) is 5 seconds long when the entire segment is 40 minutes long and starts with "Now how did we get to this point?"  Yea, because you start segements with "Now"

        Huh?

        In the original topic, the entire segment was posted.  All the context that's needed is provided.  If any was missed, you're free to provide it and explain how it absolves O'Reilly of charges of saying racist things.

        Seriously, is this all ya got?  It's like when Rino or whomever come back with "Yeah, but what has he been CONVICTED of?"  Frankly, not much context is needed to understand what O'Reilly is saying.  MMFA provided far more than was necessary to get what O'Reilly meant. 

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    • Author by additionalscenes6336 (September 26, 2007 5:51 pm ET)
         

      You Media Morons are pathetic.  Every last one of you.  I am not a fan of O'Reilly (haven't been for quite a while), but this has to be one of the most desperate attempts to slander a conservative I have ever seen.  No wonder America is turning away from you guys.

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    • Author by netsez00565 (September 26, 2007 9:20 pm ET)
         

      The entire home page here is all O'Reilly!  Is this Mediamatters or http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/?

       

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    • Author by j238 (September 26, 2007 9:25 pm ET)
         

       Was Bill O'Reilly being racist in this episode?  I don't think so.

       These were the comments of a Long Islander (I'm an x-Long Island resident) who has spent too much time watching basic cable.  He seems obsessed with the personalities that dominate MTV, VH1, etc. 

        Back when I live on LI, the scariest place imaginable was Harlem.  I'll emphasize 'imagine' since no one I knew ever went there.

         Old Bill had one of his first Harlem experiences late in life and found it very pleasant.

         So surprised he couldn't "get over it".

         His comments were intended to be positive, but that's not an excuse.

         He has revealed what a stupid and insensitive man he is.  

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      • Author by bittermarv (September 26, 2007 9:55 pm ET)
           

        He has revealed what a stupid and insensitive man he is. 

        Agreed.  How does that absolve him of the charge of saying racist things?  What he said was racist, and was probably fueled by his ignorance and lack of sensitivity.  I doubt he meant to insult, demean, or patronize African Americans with racist comments, but he did.  Whether he intended his comments to be racist has no bearing on whether or not they were. 

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    • Author by wmurtough8074 (September 26, 2007 9:57 pm ET)
         

      Now, if we can just get Hannity to eat at a Jewish deli......

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    • Author by copiousdissent.blogspot.com (September 26, 2007 11:02 pm ET)
         

      MMFA, you lost all creditability.  It is over for you.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (September 26, 2007 11:05 pm ET)
           

        Cop and the treatment were working so well.

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      • Author by solon (September 27, 2007 12:29 am ET)
           

        Sure because YOU say so. Then again you NEVER had any credibility or a cogent argument so you were done LOOONG ago.

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (September 27, 2007 2:31 am ET)
             

          First of all, it's "creditability", and second, the troll has spoken. Everybody shut down your computers and go to bed. The Republicans will continue their reign of incompetence as we sleep.

          Why would one go to a website that was "over" to rant and cry about it?

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    • Author by baldbastardbuster5526 (September 26, 2007 11:46 pm ET)
         

      Dear Bill

      Last night I had dinner at O'Reilly's, an Irish pub off an alley in TImes Square with the corpse of Tip O'Neill. I couldn't believe that the people there were so respectful and that they actually had tables and chairs and food, just like a WASP restaurant. And no one was falling-down-drunk! Except for Tip, but since he's been dead a long time, I felt I ought to cut him a break.

      Ya know, Bill, those people were tremendously disrespectful to you. They all broke out laughing when I mentioned that the namesake of the restaurant had a TV show.

      "'Aye, and he's truly an ignoramous, " said proprieter Paddy O'Keefe.

      And those potato-eaters actually sat around and ate with knives and forks, just like civilized people. I couldn't get over it!

      I think the Irish in this country are beginning to think for themselves. Many have weaned themselves off the bottle and are just trying to figure things out.

      Like how an ignorant jerk like you can be on television.

      Best regards,

      Jake "Whitebread" Z'Beard

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    • Author by cmsix (September 27, 2007 12:08 am ET)
         

      Like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly is such a racist that he doesn't even realize he is one. Face it, he is employed to pander to the ideals and beliefs of old white men, and he won't be replaced as long as he does that. He's still doing a good job of what he was employed to do. After all, who hired him?cmsix

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    • Author by wvhart6757 (September 28, 2007 11:44 am ET)
         

        O'Reilly's definition of what constitutes a smear has gotten increasingly more peculiar of late. He says something incredibly hypocritical/stupid and, yes, Media Matters cites him on it. As for all this "they quote me out of context" nonsense, that is palpably and consistently disproven. Media Matters provides (for the most part, I gather) a transcript for the entire segment....................Of course, the most laughable aspect of the entire fiasco is that O'Reilly himself is the worst perpetrator of all of said tactic. That high-teacher from out west, right, O'Reilly and his Fox lackies spliced the hell out of what that individual said - leaving out, of course, the part where he says, "now I'm not COMPARING Bush and Hitler.........".Which leads me to wonder, how does anybody give ANY creedence to what O'Reilly says. It boggles the mind, I'm saying. For more on this and other examples of O'Reilly hypocrisy, please check out paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com

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