Melanie Morgan: Iraq war vet Soltz "undermin[ing] the real mission of our troops"
SUMMARY: On Hannity & Colmes, discussing Rush Limbaugh's recent characterization of service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers," Melanie Morgan asserted: "A number of soldiers who are fake or who are embellishers or who are posers, who go out there -- or soldiers like Jon Soltz of VoteVet.org [sic], who go out there and use their far-left, anti-American agenda, political agenda to undermine the real mission of our troops, our heroes who are out there, who are fighting in a hot war, who are fighting for our lives and for our security and safety."
On the October 1 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, during a discussion of syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh's recent characterization of service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers," right-wing radio host and co-chairwoman of Move America Forward (MAF) Melanie Morgan asserted: "What's clear to me is that this is a manufactured controversy by Media Matters for America, an organization that has been determined to take down conservative talk-show hosts for many, many years now." She added: "Rush Limbaugh is a man who is a truth-teller and one of the most effective communicators of our generation." Later in the segment, following co-host Sean Hannity's assertions that "they know this is a phony issue" and "[t]hey know the context in which Rush was talking," Morgan asserted: "This is what [right-wing pundit] Michelle Malkin has been writing about at her blog for a long time now. A number of soldiers who are fake or who are embellishers or who are posers, who go out there -- or soldiers like Jon Soltz of VoteVet.org [sic], who go out there and use their far-left, anti-American agenda, political agenda to undermine the real mission of our troops, our heroes who are out there, who are fighting in a hot war, who are fighting for our lives and for our security and safety."
As Media Matters has documented, Morgan has attacked Soltz in the past. For example, on the May 8 edition of PBS' The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, correspondent Judy Woodruff hosted a segment titled "Grassroots Groups Seek to Influence Iraq Policy" featuring Soltz and Morgan. During the show, Morgan claimed that she would like to see Soltz "say to the troops in the field" "that they are failing, that they have failed, miserable performance, that they are losing." She also said that Soltz was "shameful and really disrespectful to our troops." In an August 17 column published on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, Morgan called Soltz a "hypocritical cockroach," stating that "[h]e needs to be stomped on and neutralized before he and his ilk can silence military support for the mission in Iraq."
From the October 1 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
ALAN COLMES (co-host): Well, Democrats liken Limbaugh's comments to the [Gen. David] Petraeus-MoveOn.org ad and the heat some of them got for not condemning the advertisement. And with us now, radio talk-show host and author of the book American Mourning -- that's with a "u" in there -- Melanie Morgan. And radio talk show Stephanie Miller.
Now, Melanie, I just don't understand because we actually played the tape. He said "phony soldiers" -- plural. And then he claimed that he was talking about one soldier, but that particular soldier, his name didn't come up until about two minutes later. So it wasn't clear to me, at least, that he was talking about one soldier two minutes prior to that soldier's name coming up. Can you help me understand this?
MORGAN: What's clear to me is this is a manufactured controversy by Media Matters for America, an organization that has been determined to take down conservative talk-show hosts for many, many years now. Rush Limbaugh is a man who is a truth-teller and one of the most effective communicators of our generation. And that's why they are continuing.
COLMES: That doesn't answer my question, though.
MORGAN: They are continuing to attack him.
COLMES: I'm trying to understand the explanation.
[...]
SEAN HANNITY (co-host): Melanie, what they're trying to do here, they know this is a phony issue. They know the context in which Rush was talking about here. They know his history of supporting the military. But they're trying to distract from their positions on the war. And Harry Reid literally said on the Senate floor today -- he called Rush unpatriotic. Does that mean we can call him unpatriotic for sending kids to war and telling them they lost? Or John Murtha, who accused Marines of murder, and now many of them have been vindicated, and he hasn't apologized? Is he unpatriotic? Was Obama patriotic -- unpatriotic when he said our troops are air-raiding villages, when they don't do any such thing? Now are they going to open that door?
MORGAN: This is what Michelle Malkin has been writing about at her blog for a long time now. A number of soldiers who are fake or who are embellishers or who are posers, who go out there -- or soldiers like Jon Soltz of VoteVet.org [sic], who go out there and use their far-left, anti-American agenda, political agenda to undermine the real mission of our troops --
HANNITY: You know --
MORGAN: -- our heroes who are out there, who are fighting in a hot war --
HANNITY: You know something --
MORGAN: -- who are fighting for our lives --
HANNITY: Stephanie --
MORGAN: -- and for our security and safety.
HANNITY: The bottom line is these same Democrats that couldn't condemn the "General Betray Us" ad, these same guys that want to cut off funding -- bullets, armor, Humvees, and supplies --
MILLER: Oh, I'm sorry.
HANNITY: -- the same guys that accused them of murder and, as [Sen.] John Kerry [D-MA] said, being terrorists. You know what? Why don't we have a resolution for each and every one of them and their statements? Would that be fair?
Man, they just don't stop do they?
The sissy Sotz wimped out when questioned by an actual soldier during the Daily Kook convention.
Another attack on our soldiers. Yup, nice job, hypocrite!
He did not wimp out - as a soldier he told the "actual soldier" (your words) that talking politics while in uniform is against military law - he was trying to keep the soldier incriminating himself. The uniform has no politics or party - The uniform is specifically kept separate from politcs.
But you are calling Soltz a phony soldier too aren't you!
So anyone who questions this war or any war in which they served are not actual soldiers. Well pardner, I got news for ya'. There is a hell of alot of not acutal soldiers from the past. You are pitiful.
The moron Kev is obsessed with sissies. I think that closet is getting a bit cramped for him
Solon, if you are making a gay joke, I hope you are not referring to gays as sissies.
No I am talking about the repression of the hypermacho types desperate to deny who they are. No joke at all. So afraid others will see what THEY are afraid of they try to mask it by talking about the masculinity of OTHERS. The only gay person I knew in high school enlisted in the Army right out of college with a math degree. Hardly a sissy
"This is what [right-wing pundit] Michelle Malkin has been writing about at her blog for a long time now. A number of soldiers who are fake or who are embellishers or who are posers, who go out there -- or soldiers like Jon Soltz of VoteVet.org [sic],
Morgan called Soltz a "hypocritical cockroach," stating that "[h]e needs to be stomped on and neutralized before he and his ilk can silence military support for the mission in Iraq."
But nooo, no outrage when the right attacks our soldiers. Nope, not a word.
"Rush Limbaugh is a truth teller." Yeah, OK.
"... John Murtha, who accused Marines of murder, and now many of them have been vindicated.." It appears Hannity knows he was correct, because not all of them have been vindicated. What war were you in again, Hannity?
Rush is not a truth teller indeed. Rush and Melanie are both provocateurs also known as professional trolls who earn a living like so many right winger “pundits” inciting their followers to hate their fellow citizens, and God does she look like Norma Desmond in this photo or what? That same crazed delusional look in her eye.
For the average person... I think Morgan's comments about 'security and safety... fighting for our lives' is sufficient. Nuff said. No need to dig any deeper or ask any more questions. The notion of 'cutting off funding...'. Hell, a genius like Hannity said it... must be true.
This woman and every other right-wing loudmouth banks on - hell, makes big money - off of the fact that fear-mongering works... can even make you rich. Age-old scam.
Being a conservative radio host means never having to say you're sorry for being complicit in death, destruction, mayhem, and the systematic theft of its economic resources.
Being a conservative radio host means never having to think, reason, and analyze facts. The facts they rely on come from the RNCC power structure and/or the Bible.
This is a truly evil woman.
Hey!
Give us average people more credit than that.
HANNITY: -- the same guys that accused them of murder and, as [Sen.] John Kerry [D-MA] said, being terrorists.
I'd love to see the supposed quote of John Kerry calling US Soldiers "terrorists" or accusing them of murder. You RW-nuts can go look long and hard because it never happened.
""Rush Limbaugh is a man who is a truth-teller and one of the most effective communicators of our generation."
Beverage in mouth, meet keyboard, monitor and precious paperwork on desk.
Which part got to you? Man? Or truth-teller?
I honestly didn't even make it to "truth-teller".
Morgan, Hannity, Limbaugh, Malkin. All of them talk tough on terroism, but no action. Morgan even says her very life is threatened by the terrorists in Iraq, yet she refuses to join the military.
So, when are these cowards going to quit talking? When are these cowards going quit letting others do their fighting for them? When are these cowards going to quit writing books and making money off our military and join the military themselves?
All that Malkin, Morgan, Hannity etc care about are their book sales.
Melanie Morgan has been carping about this Jon Soltz guy for a while. He seems to be her favorite punching bag. I guess soldiers who are still considered GIs (government issue) are okay. But when they actually aren't required to be quiet anymore, they become a liability to the flea bitten Melanie Morgan types.
JJ, you know the way mOrgan loves the soldiers that agree with her? I think I finally figured out why she wears her lipstick thick. It's to reduce the friction...
Whew! That's a relief!
Thought maybe there was something going around among Coulter, Malkin, and Ingraham. You know how rashes and the threat of penicillin shortages create panic.
Good to know that the hysteria was just over Malady's lipstick, and can be "cured" with a little cold cream...
and prevent heat loss
"who are fighting for our lives and for our security and safety" and the profits of large corporations with close ties to the most militarist goverment in the history of the world.
Right. Blackhawk gets fired again yesterday, and today sign another contract to work in Iraq. Glad to see Bush is soo concerned about turning Iraq into a Democracy that he sees fit to keep reinstalling a group known for killing civilians for the heck of it.
Far left Anti american ??? I'd like to see Morgan pass a citizenship test.
Geez, JULIAJAYNE saw it right, was it really that hard to figure out?
It was for me. I am sorry, I was WAAAAY out of line. I read MM to be Media Matters. What was I thinking?
My bad too, being QWERTY challenged I went shorthand. But I strongly believe Mel Morgan, S Hanity, R Limpboy and all the other empathy devoid monsters are traitors.
I was still way out of line. You deserve the benifit of the doubt
Yes it was, cause we all use MM for Media Matters. So I too apologize for getting it wrong.
I use MMFA. Maybe that's why I saw it differently. But then I think Mel is a poc (piece of crap) as well.
Julia, how about a poc limerick for dear melanie?
Meanwhile, here's a Mother Goose rhyme my husband composed:
The scared little sheeple
didn't know what to do
So they listened to creeple
like Lush and his crew.
Mary, that was cute.
There was a radiocon named Mel
Her rhetoric is straight out of hell
She only likes troops
That are in the certain groups
At the others, she just likes to yell
JJ, thanks. You are an inspiration:
Voters who like Sean and Melanie
Must be on the brink of senility
Their hateful crass spiel
To the twisted appeal
But voting while dumb's not a felony.
Why does Melanie Morgan hate the troops?
Be fair...Melanie only hates liberal troops.
What is being revealed is that despite all their claims of supporting our servicemen, in reality, the right wingers hate anything and everything they consider to be liberal...including war veterans who oppose the war.
What are the odds that not one American casualty in Iraq was a soldier who opposed the war? In effect, the right wingers would spit on the grave of a liberal dead soldier just as they would spit in the face of any other liberal who opposes the war.
It's plain what is happeneing right now. A light is being shone on the comments of these right wing pundits and what is being revealed is the depth of their hatred for anything liberal. Phony bastards, with all that pro-servicemen baloney...they don't tell you how selctive their support for servicemen actually is.
Right on, Snoopy. There are plenty of examples illustrating what these right-wing blow hards really think about the servicemen that don’t share their political views. And that really is the crux of it. Just look through some of the posts from the Limbaugh crowd. What kind of diseased mind can defend people like Rush and Morgan from accusations of troop bashing by writing posts that bash servicemen? What kind of twist holds in esteem a group of cowardly, draft dodging chickenhawks, while denigrating actual veterans - veterans of the current conflict, none the less. It makes no sense.
I mean: Right on, IRONY.
Sorry. G’night…
Welcome to the American Reich ladies and gentlemen.
Melanie Morgan's comments hit on points 3 and 4 of the 14 points of fascism:
Point 3: Identification of scapegoats/enemies. In this case the enemies are soldiers or former soldiers who disagree with the war in Iraq and the policies that got us there. As we all know, real patriots agree with every belch President Dubya utters. Anyone who disagrees is not only wrong but also an enemy who hates America.
Point 4: Supremacy of the military. In this case Morgan glamorizes the military by referring to them as heroes fighting for our supposed freedom and security. As research for a play I am working on, I have reading a lot about Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler. He was big on the heroic image and militarism. Sound familiar?
I hope Media Matters continues to expose these conservative frauds: Melanie Morgan, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc.
They hide behind the American flag, claiming to be Christian and a supporter of the troops. But if you pull the covers off these frauds, you will find another seedy side of them.
I can tell you from personal experience that these conservative frauds are not the goody-two shoes you hear and see on television.
Here's proof that Sean Hannity is a fraud. And this comes from a person who has dealt with this New York University drop-out personally.
Http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/09/sean_hannity_content/
Http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/02/top_conservativ.html
How about the bigger fraud called the "war on terror?" which is ruining the lives of thousands as these people argue about who stole from who. Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel...
I think Morgan settles the question that has been on everyones mind for years, and that is this:
Is 'dumb as a soap dish' a prerequisite for conservative talk radio or does it apply only to Melanie Morgan?
You get one guess.
Miller gets high points for her "anal cyst" comment at the beginning of this interview.
why is stiffler's mom a commentator on cnn?