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MSNBC's Geist, Politico's Brown misrepresented Clear Channel letter on Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" comments

October 03, 2007 12:07 pm ET

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On the October 3 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, contributor Willie Geist and host Joe Scarborough discussed Clear Channel CEO Mark P. Mays' reply to Senate Democrats' September 28 letter calling on him to publicly repudiate Rush Limbaugh's characterization of service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as "phony soldiers." Geist stated that "[t]he station said we're not going to apologize, Rush Limbaugh has a track record of supporting the troops, this has been taken out of context, and they did not -- they did not yield to Congress." In fact, in his October 2 letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Mays did not write that Limbaugh's statements were "taken out of context"; rather, that he "carefully read the transcript from the episode in question," and determined that he could not "speak with authority as to whom exactly Mr. Limbaugh's comments were directed, or what was his intent." Mays added, "Only Mr. Limbaugh can speak to those issues, which he has done."

Similarly, in an October 2 entry on Politico's The Crypt blog, staff writer Carrie Budoff Brown asserted that Mays wrote that he "didn't believe Limbaugh's statements were 'intended to personally indict combat soldiers simply because they didn't share his own beliefs regarding the war in Iraq.' " In fact, Mays wrote, "[I]t would be unfair for me to assume his statements were intended to personally indict combat soldiers simply because they didn't share his own beliefs regarding the war in Iraq," not that he "didn't believe" that was the case. Mays further noted that Limbaugh "denies" that his "intention was to classify any soldier opposed to the war in Iraq as a 'phony soldier.' "

Clear Channel broadcasts Limbaugh's nationally syndicated radio show.

From Mays' letter:

I want to thank you and your Senate democratic colleagues for sharing your concern over recent comments made by Rush Limbaugh on his daily radio program. First, let me say that the men and women who wear the uniform in defense of our country deserve the utmost respect and gratitude from each and every one of us whom they serve to protect. I assure you that I fully agree with your statement that "not a single one of our sons, daughters, neighbors and friends serving overseas is a phony soldier." As a grateful American citizen, I would reject anyone's contention to the contrary.

Mr. Limbaugh's comments last week have stirred a lot of emotion, and I have carefully read the transcript from the episode in question. I hope you will appreciate that I cannot speak with authority as to whom exactly Mr. Limbaugh's comments were directed, or what was his intent. Only Mr. Limbaugh can speak to those issues, which he has done.

I can say, however, that over the years Mr. Limbaugh has repeatedly praised the dedication and valor of our brave men and women in uniform. Given Mr. Limbaugh's history of support for our soldiers, it would be unfair for me to assume that his statements were intended to personally indict combat soldiers simply because they didn't share his own beliefs regarding the war in Iraq. However, if Mr. Limbaugh's intention was to classify any soldier opposed to the war in Iraq as a "phony soldier," which he denies, then I, along with most Americans, would be deeply offended by such a statement.

While I do not agree with everything Mr. Limbaugh says on every topic, I do believe that he, along with every American, has the right to voice his or her opinion in the manner they choose. The First Amendment gives every American the right to voice his or her opinion, no matter how unpopular. That right is one that I am sure you agree must be cherished and protected.

As the Chief Executive Officer of Clear Channel, I support each of our on-air talent's right to express his or herself freely, as long as they do it within the confines of the laws set forth by Congress. For this reason, I have not and will not impose my own views upon any of our on-air talent. Doing so would, quite frankly, undermine the integrity of the broadcast, undercut the trust with our listeners that they are receiving the true and honest opinions of the radio host, and more importantly fly directly in the face the right to free speech that we hold so dear.

Each and every day, Clear Channel offers a broad diversity of viewpoints from Rush Limbaugh on the right to Air America on the left of the political spectrum. It is inevitable, with so many different perspectives, that an on-air personality will challenge or even offend another segment of the public. I too am sometimes offended by words that are directed at me or a particular belief I hold. However, as a broadcaster and leader of this company, I will always defend the right of our employees and contracted talent to voice their opinions under the protections provided by the First Amendment.

I want to thank you and your colleagues for writing me regarding this matter. Again, I regret that you and others were offended by Mr. Limbaugh's statement, regardless of what its intended meaning may have been. I hope that you understand and support my position that while I certainly do not agree with all views that are voiced on our stations, I will not condemn our talent for exercising their right to voice them.

From the October 3 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

GEIST: That's all the Britney we're going to do for today -- promise.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI (co-host): Well, you know what, Willie? Thanks so much for that. My day is complete.

SCARBOROUGH (host): Well, seriously, we can be all upset about us doing Britney Spears and talking about this tape and everything, but you know what if the United States Senate isn't acting any more serious than they are acting right now -- Willie Geist, apparently yesterday, they went on the Senate floor, and they've now decided, instead of talking about the war, they're going to talk about Rush Limbaugh.

GEIST: Yeah, look, 41 senators, I believe it was, drafted a letter, sent it to Rush Limbaugh's employer, Clear Channel Radio, and wanted -- it was just a rebuke -- they wanted an apology. The station said we're not going to apologize, Rush Limbaugh has a track record of supporting the troops, this has been taken out of context, and they did not -- they did not yield to Congress.

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    • Author by monknj80 (October 03, 2007 12:24 pm ET)
         

      "SCARBOROUGH (host): Well, seriously, we can be all upset about us doing Britney Spears and talking about this tape and everything, but you know what if the United States Senate isn't acting any more serious than they are acting right now -- Willie Geist, apparently yesterday, they went on the Senate floor, and they've now decided, instead of talking about the war, they're going to talk about Rush Limbaugh."

       

      You mean kinda like they did with move on. Neither incidents required any action from congress.

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      • Author by DEMS_SOL (October 03, 2007 12:31 pm ET)
           

        I think we can all agree on that.

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        • Author by neondesert (October 03, 2007 12:46 pm ET)
             

          " ...and they've now decided, instead of talking about the war, they're going to talk about Rush Limbaugh."

          Geez, and just when all that talking about the war was making such great progress, too.

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      • Author by snoopy (October 03, 2007 12:40 pm ET)
           

        I think the congress would be better served removing Limbaugh from air america. That's a far better use of their resources than another amendment.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (October 03, 2007 1:01 pm ET)
         

      I wonder if, in 30 years time, communications studies textbooks will note our era as "the age of the pundit."

      Right or left, conservative or liberal, smart or stupid, at what point are talking heads on TV, people who are brought in to give their opinion to the apparently millions who cannot make up their own minds, going to be held accountable? And I don't mean by the thought police, I mean by an editor who says: "Look, Geist, maybe you should have less coffee in the morning. Thanks for your comments on the Limbaugh thing, but Mays DID NOT SAY that Limbaugh was taken out of context; moreover, he SPECIFICALLY SAID that he would not venture to guess the context or motive or meaning of Limbaugh's words. You're (fired, suspended, stupid)."

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      • Author by solon (October 03, 2007 1:14 pm ET)
           

        Exactly some kind of accountability would be nice. If I did my job half as sloppily as a good many of the pundits out there do theirs I would be fired in a week

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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (October 03, 2007 1:38 pm ET)
             

          To me it's not even a political issue...cable news is so, so bad these days...I only watch headline news now and even that has gotten worse. There is so much more time devoted to what "experts" "think" about an issue, rather than just reporting on the issue, the facts, and maaaybe presenting 1 interpreter of the events for each side of the coin.

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    • Author by DorisRussell (October 03, 2007 1:05 pm ET)
         

      Geist and Scarborough have become the Rush Limbaugh appeasers on MSNBC.

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      • Author by CDubya35 (October 03, 2007 2:26 pm ET)
           

        Much as KO has become the professional excoriator of Bill O'Reilly and now Rush.

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        • Author by neondesert (October 03, 2007 2:40 pm ET)
             

          Good point, and yet even despite that, there are some people who don't like him.

          It's a good thing that fans like you and I recognize him for the good work he does.

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    • Author by Dem02020 (October 03, 2007 1:44 pm ET)
         

       

      "They [Clear Channel Communication's ownership] did not yield to Congress"

      Clear Channel Communications broadcasts on I don't know how many radio stations; but whatever the number, in each and every case it is by way of an FCC License that they broadcast.

      The FCC "is an independent United States government agency, directly responsible to Congress"

      http://www.fcc.gov/aboutus.html

      But Clear Channel Communications is not going to yield to Congress; they're not going to yield to the authority responsible for Licensing Clear Channel's broadcasts?

       

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      • Author by leatherhelmet (October 03, 2007 1:54 pm ET)
           

        No they are not. The last thing any company would do is let Congress dictate who they hire and fire. Especially when you have the most popular radio host on the planet pitted against a Congress drawing 11 percent approval ratings.

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        • Author by neondesert (October 03, 2007 2:50 pm ET)
             

          Limpaugh claims 24 million listeners, and out of a "lowball" 300 million Homelandicans, that works out to 8%, a number below even the 11% down to which the Republicans can drag the congressional approval rating.  (And really, do you think all "24 million" listeners actually approve of limpaugh?)

          But, some people have pride in stranger feats than this, I suppose.  So keep bragging away...

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    • Author by Dem02020 (October 03, 2007 1:56 pm ET)
         

      "While I do not agree with everything Mr. Limbaugh says on every topic, I do believe that

      he, along with every American, has the right to voice his or her opinion in the manner they choose.

      The First Amendment gives every American the right to voice his or her opinion, no matter how unpopular.

      That right is one that I am sure you agree must be cherished and protected."

       

      Does Clear Channel CEO mark p. mays mean to tell me I have a right to broadcast on the radio, like rush does for him, by way of an FCC License?

      That's what rush is doing, he's exercising his First Amendment rights, when he broadcasts on the radio band of the PUBLIC AIRWAVES?

       

      This is news to me... but it's Great News at that!

      Where's my microphone? Fire up the transmitter! Just give me a Frequency! Give me a Frequency, or else I'll just broadcast on them all...

      Because I have a First Amendment right to broadcast, just like rush limbaugh!

      I want my First Amendment rights!

      I WANT TO BE BROADCAST ON THE RADIO BAND OF THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES!

      It's my First Amendment right!

       

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    • Author by sneakypie (October 03, 2007 2:44 pm ET)
         

      I've been hearing the cable pundits question if the resolution to  denounce Rush's statements is a good use of the Sentate's time.  I never heard them question the Move on resolution.  It's so apparent that these people have a double standard.  Maybe they're really frightened of Rush.  The Repubs are.  Maybe the cable pundits are too.   

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    • Author by ajwan (October 03, 2007 5:28 pm ET)
         

      What in the name of the baby Jesus is so hard to understand here. Rush was calling only soldiers who do not agree with his politics phony soldiers.

      If you're a conservative soldier and bleed and die your're real. If you are a liberal soldier and bleed and die you're a phony.

      And Dem02020 yeah they are public airwaves and according to Mays it's in the constitution so sure you can set up a transmitter and start broadcasting today. Ok not really. Mays is an idiot, but a useful idiot to the right.

       

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    • Author by billiybobjones7678 (October 03, 2007 8:10 pm ET)
         

      Clear Channel CEO Mark P. Mays should get some kind of freedom of speech award for standing up for Rush.

      In Los Angeles, Clear Channel operates the highly rated KFI radio station (Rush Limbaugh, Bill Handel, John and Ken, etc.) as well as the low-rated KTLK Air America station (um...)

      Honestly, the left should be happy that Clear Channel is at least willing to carry far left radio that nobody listens to.

       

       

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    • Author by ochocodave1400 (October 04, 2007 12:00 am ET)
         

      at stake here... can hilary crush the opposing voice of a free speach advocate who happens to be a very popular (for good reason) radio show host?  Not.  try as she may, free thinking americans will continue to listen to whomever they enjoy hearing.  Rush is not perfect, that's why we like him.  He doesn't try to be.  He just simply points out the obvious about politicians we know are fony and it's funny.  lighten up and enjoy the show.  if the ol' boy didn't have a good point so often, would there really be so many buzzards circling the radio waves waiting for a possible attack?  isn't it a little odd some politicians take your money and monitor radio show hosts?  isn't that backwards?  personally, i believe Rush admires men and women in uniform.  that's after listening to him for a long time, not oop, OOH, look, look, look, that guy that makes us look bad, oohee, we gotz him now... c'mon.  now give Rush a hug and tell him sorry, please.

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