Coulter: Characterization of O'Reilly as surprised by Sylvia's "was inserted by people interpreting" his comments
On the October 3 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, while interviewing right-wing pundit Ann Coulter about her new book, If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans (Crown Forum), host Joe Scarborough asked Coulter if she thought that Bill O'Reilly was unfairly attacked for his recent comments regarding a trip to Sylvia's restaurant in Harlem. Scarborough noted that he and his co-anchors agreed that O'Reilly "seemed shocked that black people can run restaurants like white people." Coulter responded: "[H]e made an obvious statement, he does that sometimes. But saying that he went to a black restaurant with black people and had a nice time and everyone was nice to him, no I don't think that's a racist statement. It's an obvious statement." Scarborough responded that O'Reilly "just seemed a little shocked, to us, he seemed shocked." Coulter then asserted: "I think the surprise part was inserted by people interpreting it."
But, as Media Matters for America documented, on the September 19 edition of Westwood One's The Radio Factor, O'Reilly said of his visit to Sylvia's: "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference" [emphasis added].
From the October 3 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
SCARBOROUGH: Hey, let's bring in Ann Coulter now, she's written a new book, she's a bestselling -- all of her books go to number one. She's written a new book called If Democrats Had Any Brains They'd Be Republicans. Ann, I think my next book should be "If Republicans had any brains they'd still be in charge of Congress," but they don't, at least not that I've seen. Let me start by asking you first about what everyone's talking about, and that is Rush Limbaugh. Apparently people are very concerned about this "phony soldiers" remark. What's your take on it?
COULTER: Um, I'm a little disappointed they didn't wait for my book to come out to engage in one of these campaigns. They could've taken me out of context.
SCARBOROUGH : Yeah, I know, exactly, that's the thing. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh is just horrified that [Sen.] Tom Harkin [D-IA] is on the United States Senate floor, and [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid's [D-NV] on the United States Senate floor attacking him, it's like, "Please, please throw me in that briar patch."
COULTER: In my experience, being censured on the Senate floor is the equivalent of about 50 book signings.
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, exactly. Now last week, we were going after -- by the way, our collective judgment here is that Rush Limbaugh's been taken out of context. Last week we were talking about Bill O'Reilly, who, to us, to us at least, seemed shocked that black people can run restaurants like white people. Do you think Bill O'Reilly was unfairly attacked last week?
COULTER: Um, oh, this is so hard for me because there is no way he would defend me if the shoe were on the other foot. But no, I mean, he made an obvious statement, he does that sometimes. But saying that he went to a black restaurant with black people and had a nice time and everyone was nice to him, no I don't think that's a racist statement. It's an obvious statement.
SCARBOROUGH: But he just seemed a little shocked, to us, he seemed shocked.
COULTER: No, I think the surprise part was inserted by people interpreting it.
SCARBOROUGH: OK.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI (anchor): Well you could kind of hear it, I'm sorry.
SCARBOROUGH: OK, it seemed that way.
Obviously a concerted effort by the right. Yeah, we edited O'Reilly's audio too to make him look like a racist.
Must be book selling time again...
Big surprise huh? On day two of the O’Reilly-Sylvia incident when the usual suspects showed up here defending him, I knew these guys would buy any excuse these people give them on any subject simply because they want to. They were waiting for the lead wingers to give them the talking point on this issue and then they made a mad dash for internet to tell those loony lefty's what Bill really meant….and the beat goes on. They are doing the exact thing with Rush’s recent denigration of the soldierS that disagree with him. Draft dodging Rush got caught taking pot shots at these soldierS. On another thread a poster said everyone knows Rush loves the military. If that's true then why didn’t Rush join the military when they really needed him? The truth is Rush, Billy O, and Annie C love two things hearing themselves talk and money. Bill’s not looking out for anyone except himself, Rush doesn’t give a flying F about the military or his ditto zombies. It’s all about keeping Republicans in charge to protect their money. Their antics and personas is pure crap. Their shows, their books, and disingenuous political commentary are tools to be used to that end.
Now this is truly funny - Ann says fox isn't a conservative channel, it's a debate channel! Don't you actually have to have both sides aired to be considered a debate? All I ever see is right wing gasbags telling us why libs are bad!
After the "I cant get over the facts that..." comment, then he gives us some depth when he mentions what it was that surprised him.
That black ppl cant dine at a restaurant without using the "M-Fer" word when ordering iced tea.
The GOP are acting like they don't understand his comments now. And it's a little bit comical.
Um...... Ann Coulter defending Rush?
Yeah..... huh...... I'm.... hmmmm..... oy
It's a definite case of slime leading slime!
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
If we are to have revision of history that is barely moments old, do we have to have it revised by such dull minds like Scarborough, and Coulter??
Joe was an embarrassment as a Congressman, and Ann Coulter was so embarrassing to George H.W. Bush she had to be tossed.
Ann writes like an angry lover jilted by a Democrat!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
Congrats to Annie. Idiology trumps reality. Not as incendiary as she usually is. The book tour must be wearing. What happened to the eternal black dress?
What happened to the dress? The moths that reside in unused parts of her body ate holes in the dress...
She might consider a career change then. The lead in a series of moth horror movies. A clothes protection racket. Do tricks with them for retirement comunities.
The possiblities just need a little imagination to find......oh. Nevermind.
"What happened to the eternal black dress?"
It's right there on the cover of her new book.
"i couldn't get over the fact..." if that is not surprise, then what qualifies? now, if all he did say was he "went to a black restaurant with black people and had a nice time and everyone was nice to him", that would be a different story. but that is not what he left it at.
I feel sorry for conservatives because on TV even their 'Lawyers' like Coulter have less credibility than the progressive's Comics like Jon Stewart. So Coulter tries to be funny, but she's just...not. She wierd like an older woman trying to act like the bully 14 year old 'popular girl' in school. She never grew out of junior high
It seems to me that all this woman publish is hate filled rhetoric. I could be wrong, but judging by many of the things she's said, and watching interviews she's been a part of, I'd say that her book is just a bunch of pages put together in which she talks about the people she dislikes. I can understand why Fixed News continues to promote her, but don't see why other news outlets take her seriously.
Handy checklist for right-wing apologists like Coulter:
He/She...
_Was taken out of context. _Is a comedian. _Was making a joke. _Is just an entertainer. _Really meant to say something else. _Was really thinking about something else. _Is a victim of a smear campaign. _Is being viciously attacked. _Is being censored. _Ought to admit the mistake and apologize.
That last one should be grayed-out.
The only reason Scarborough is attacking O'Reilly because O'Reilly works for Fox News, and since Olbermann became O'Reilly's arch rival, and the rivalry between the two has helped both of their ratings, Scarborough (and now Abrams) are trying to get in on the action hoping for the same results. The fact that Scarborough sanctimoniously whined about the MoveOn.org ad, applauded those "noble" Democrats who condemned it, but takes up for Limbaugh and points a finger at Media Matters for mischaracterization, pretty much proves my point that Scarborough is the biggest phony on televisions today. Had Limbaugh been a Fox News pundit he would have joined Keith Olbermann’s bandwagon condemning Limbaugh and the “phony soldiers” remark. One day Scarborough acts like a libertarian, the next day an Evangelical Republican, the day after a William F. Buckley-like conservative, and after that a moderate who understands race relations and sexism against women. Puh-leeze! Some may view this flip-flopping as being “complex,” but I view it as opportunism.
That is interesting. He was all over O'Reilly, yet he's regurgitating Rush Limbaugh's excuse for the "phony soldiers" comment without even acknowledging that it could be considered an awkward choice of words. He's joining the other Righties and characterizing it as a hit job on Limbaugh. On the other hand, Kieth Olbermann and Chris Matthews are on the opposite side, which leads me to believe that it's not an MSNBC thing.
"Bill was being obvious..."
Um... to whom? Other racists? You have to love Coulter's special brand of indignance. She says absolutely nothing in 1000 words or more.
By the way, if someone intreprets the comments as racist... that's the listener's prerogative. This constant rebuttal of 'you're too sensitive!' is lame and, basically, an excuse for bad behavior. Bill O'Reilly is a 'professional' broadcaster. Like he doesn't know how words may be taken or understood? Please. Maybe Bill should be a little more sensitive? But, then he wouldn't have carte blanche to say racist things would he?
Damn, Bill should have told me that this thinking for myself business was soooo hard.
Bill says “I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference” . Bill may have to step in and help me but “I couldn’t get over” seems to indicate some element of surprise. Right Bill?.
And HBL, she doesn't need a bone, she needs a meal. Maybe that's why she's so mean, she's hungry.
I would offer to do the christian thing and feed her but she would probably open her mouth, start talking and I would have to ......well you know.
And HBL, she doesn't need a bone, she needs a meal. Maybe that's why she's so mean, she's hungry.
LOL! That's too funny. But damn ain't that girl skinny or what? She told Hannity a few days ago that she's only ninty-nine pounds! I don't see the "beauty" that her Right-Wing male fanbase sees in her: no ass, no breasts, no nothin' -- just skin and bones with blonde hair. I'd pity the man who ever marries the skeleton.
Preston, I had an uncle who when pointing to a skinny woman would say "even spike don't want no bones" and spike was his dog. ;-)
98 pounds? That's only 10 more pounds than my niece, and she's 12! Now why would I (or anyone for that matter) want a woman who's built like a girl?
98 lbs may not sound like a lot, but as any farmer will tell you, that IS a fair amount of bullsh*t to stack in any one place.
Pearl, when she opens her mouth, surprise her and shove a drumstick in it! Oooooh, nooooooo! I can't believe I said that! why, why!
Snoopy, bad doggy but in a good way. ;-)
"Bill says 'I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference' . Bill may have to step in and help me but 'I couldn’t get over' seems to indicate some element of surprise. Right Bill?" - Pearlene
Pearl, first off, I'm not Bill. :^)
There's actually another possibility. It may not have been an element of surprise at all! Maybe it was dogged determination.
Poor Bill tried and tried to get over "the fact that there was no difference". Really, he tried hard. But he just couldn't.
See? No element of surprise at all. Instead, a man who shows grit and determination in the face of adversity.
"true grit" with john wayne and glenn campbell. One of the worst movie matchups ever made...
Ann Falter is as phony as her accent.
She has an accent? You mean faux-preppy or something?
If you really listen, it sounds like a bastardization of Napoleon Dynamite and Beavis.
The accent is authentic. She was raised in Fairfield county in Connecticut, and many of the inbreds in her particular hometown do sound like thurston Howell the third, Lovey
"context", like "liberal" and "moderate" and many other words, has a new meaning now when used by the likes of Ann and Bill.
whatever they seem to think it means is NOT what it means. why do they continue to do this without people laughing in their faces?
Question: Is there ANYTHING Media Matters is above whining about?
<>It would be very easy (if we had Daddy Soros "Shwartz" Warbucks dropping us cash through another shell organization) to be an anti-"progressive" watchdog group and mirror what this site does...
Simply whine very loudly each and every time a news pundint doesn't deliver your party's talking points to the letter.
You guys really dont get irony do you. Did I really just read a post that was basically WWAAHHHHH, stop exposing what liars my screechmonkey heros are WWWAAHHHHH, I dont know what to think until they tell me what to think WWWAAHHHHH stop showing how much they lie and distort WWWWWAAHHHH THAT is the context of you talking about US whining. What a JOKE your post was.
So, any reich winger wanna explain why y'all have to have an amendment protecting conservative radio? Or why you find it necessary to submit amendments commending Rush? Where was your outrage over 1st amendment rights when the moveon ad was being discussed? Please, hipocrites, explain how conservative free speach is somehow different from liberal free speach. Waiting...
I heard Kingston gushing over Limbaugh. This guy sounds exactly like Forrest Gump!
Somebody's not getting any attention! Poor widdow chubby cheeks...
Ann to reich wing - "you need to support Rudy because he's crazy enough to nuke Iran" and start armeggedon!
News flash, reich wingers. The crapture happened yesterday. If you are still here, it's because you were - uh, not right...
How many "um's" does it take to listen to this inbred. Understand a few things that makes these people who they are: Coulter, that lovable little elf grew up in in one of the most white, affluent, conservative and bigoted towns here in CT. Coulter is the poster child for the kids who grow up in that community with no understanding of right or wrong, just legal fees and airline tickets to Switzerland when your kid rapes the girl next door. Isn't Limbaugh that big fat arrogant drug addict who was FIRED from some sports TV show because of his racist remark about a football player? and finally Big "Loofa" Bill who was sued for his pornographic phone message to this co worker. On a lesser note, Hannity supported Ted Nugent forhis vile remarks. Ther're all saints I tell ya, every last one of em.
That seems about right. My 1st college girl friend was from there, quite amazing how quickly she turned when she realized I was paying my own way through college even though my parents could have covered it. I never had enough money to please her because she wanted it "now".
Whillenbrand, thanks for the info about Coulter...I've never bothered to research her upbringing. What kills me is that people whom you describe, in my experience and observation, privately demonstrate nothing but disdain for the unwashed masses. Particularly in the South there are now tons of working-class and lower middle-class Republicans who think highly of people like Ann Coulter who stick it those evil liberals. What they don't know is that in reality Ann Coulter wouldn't bid them the time of day and probably makes fun of people like them in private.
Wow the absence of people that want to defend Coulter here is staggering. Are those on the Right with some brains, sense, or dignity finally giving up Point Coulter. If so, good for them.
Generally not a lot of straight-up defenders of Coulter here. I think she's stoopid enough that even the far-righty-est wingnuts know she's full o' sh*t.
There is the occasional hedger; "I don't particularly like Ann, and she's over the top, but (goes on to agree with her basic nutty ideas)"
Naaaahh, what is really happening is holloween is reich around the corner. Ann makes great spooky masks, helps the book sales...
Between signing books and haunting houses, the Coultergeist probably has October pretty well booked.
AC's purpose is not to set conservative policy - it is to sell books that say things to irritate you lefties. We know she's full of it, she knows shes full of it. But it's still fun to watch - and it gives the morons at MMFA something to do.
AC's purpose is to sell book that say things to irritate people who don't read her books.hmmm, how does this work. Do Coulter fans walk around poking liberals with their books while reading out loud?Nice job.
As usual you are far to stupid to REALLY understand, well, virtually anything. What Annie is doing is tossing red meat to the moronic neandrathals. Stupid people like YOU are useful idiots that enable her doing JUST that. You may not be quite as moronic as them. You are still an idiot
There is only one regular MMFA conservative that actually defends Ann. He did so on a previous thread a few threads back. I'll paraphrase what he said but this Christian conservative finds Ann to be delightfully funny and he just loves reading her columns.
I'm not sure why patriotic Americans pay attention to Ann C. If she still wants to support the war in Iraq, then she should volunteer to pay higher taxes and put her $$$ where her mouth is. She supports the party of spend, spend, and spend so they can leave the debt (what is it now---a trillion dollars?) to the next generation of children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren (with, or course, of no higher taxes for the priviledged folks like her). Of course, she has no children (let's hope she does not reproduce). What sacrifices has she ever made for her country? During WWII she probably would have whined if she couldn't have bought nylons or sold her printed "hate tracts" by the soup lines during the Depression. She is a comedian with no funny jokes.
mescal tha way you write you probably would do a horse no matter who rode in on it. Probably even more so if the person riding it was the great and fabulous hillary clinton. Do you idiots really think that Bill Oreilly was shocked when he was talking about the restauraunt. How low will you go to try and make a true patriot out to be slime. You don't neede to attack Oreilly, Coulter, Hannity or Limbaugh if you are looking for slime. Just look at the clintons and there is enough slime to go around for the whole dem party. You liberals should really take a look at what your party has done to destroy this country and what they will do if one of you gets elected next year. If any of you have children or grandchildren you should be voting for a conservative not a tax and spend liberal weenie. Then again you probably don't care about raising your children you would rather have the liberals tell you how to raise them so you would have one less responsibility. Typical please tell me what to do liberals. Let the government take care of it all. Why don't you liberals want to stand on your own two feet. Remember we all have the right to the pursuit of happiness. It isn't and was never meant to be a guarantee. Some work on your part has to be involved.
Thanks, Grandpa...want some warm milk and the channel changer?
Irony, stop it! I actually spat food out.I wasn't really thinking "grandpa" for Gator, more like in 3rd grade, or never made it past 3rd grade.
Seriously, there have been a lot of dittoheads here lately, and for a bunch of immigrant haters, they sure don't seem to be demonstrating English as their first language.
Well okey dokey then. I'm a Liberal and have been one all my life. I raised a very fine kid who is actually a young adult now working hard as a doctorate level medical professional and giving back to the society that allowed her the opportunity to work hard and pursue her happiness. Wow!
Well Gator, I raised my kids like most americans do - to believe in fairness, honesty and a sense of morality. The goverment, republican or democrate had no involvement. It was up to me. Sadly , many of our children that we took such good care to raise have been sacrificed for lies about WMD's. Clintons are probably no better or no worse then other ambitious politician, but not one soldier died in Bosnia. and please don't repeat that non sense you hear from those radio idiots about who is patriotic and who isn't - that should offend you as much as it does me! Try listening to BBC you would be surprised to hear how the rest of the world regards this once strong and unified country.
Wow, you really are ignorant. So THAT is what the Limborg hivemind has been told to think, then regurgitate. OK, we see now that you are stupider than brass bubblegum. Feel free to entertain us with your hilarious stupidity, we love to laugh at people as stupid as you. You really ought to try to obtain a braincell somewhere. It will surely die of lonliness but for a while you will know what it was like to have one.
lynn thats very good about your daughter now just become a conservative and your life will be complete.
Gator, to liberals, a complete life doesn't mean being brain-dead. But enjoy yours.
Yeah but that lobotomy that would be required for your BS to make sense would be too much. Liberals are not apt to join the Limborg hivemind. We like thinking for ourselves since you cant think at ALL I guess its all you have.
I know why Joe went after O'Reilly and not Limbaugh. Just click over to the right-wing website Newsbusters.org and you will see an item that says they had an influence on Scarborough. They--and other right-wing blogs--attack Scarborough for being too "left." (Yeah, if Joe's a liberal then I'm the Queen of France!) Joe even admits that he keeps an eye on MMFA and NB. He apparently has caved into NB's attacks on him for trashing O'Reilly and being nice to Hillary Clinton. I think you should do the right thing and not let blogs pressure you. If Joe went after O'Reilly, then he should have went after Rush, too.
On the cover of Ann's new book, her Adam's apple has been air brushed! LOL!
It wasnt inserted. O'falafel said it. Gangleskank is a liar. What else is new?