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Angle falsely claimed Dems' bill would be first to require a court order to intercept terrorism suspects' calls to U.S.

October 12, 2007 6:59 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Special Report, Jim Angle falsely claimed that proposed revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) would, for the first time, require the federal government to obtain a court order to intercept the communications of terrorism suspects abroad when they call the United States. Angle asserted that "even requiring warrants for terrorists calling the U.S. from abroad is a major departure, something the law has never required since it was passed some 30 years ago." In fact, with few exceptions, FISA, as originally enacted in 1978, required the government to obtain a court order to conduct "electronic surveillance," which FISA defines in part as "the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire communication to or from a person in the United States, without the consent of any party thereto, if such acquisition occurs in the United States." It was only in August that Congress categorically excluded from the warrant requirement any "surveillance directed at a person reasonably believed to be located outside of the United States." That exclusion is due to expire in February 2008.

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On the October 10 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox News chief Washington correspondent Jim Angle falsely claimed that proposed revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which the House Judiciary Committee passed on October 10, would, for the first time, require the federal government to obtain a court order to intercept the communications of terrorism suspects abroad when they call the United States. Angle asserted that "even requiring warrants for terrorists calling the U.S. from abroad is a major departure, something the law has never required since it was passed some 30 years ago." In fact, with few exceptions, FISA, as originally enacted in 1978, required the government to obtain a court order to conduct "electronic surveillance," which FISA defines in part as "the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire communication to or from a person in the United States, without the consent of any party thereto, if such acquisition occurs in the United States." It was only in August that Congress passed the Protect America Act (PAA), which categorically excludes from FISA's definition of "electronic surveillance" any "surveillance directed at a person reasonably believed to be located outside of the United States." The PAA is set to expire in February of 2008.

David Kris, an associate deputy attorney general from 2001-2003 whose "portfolio include[d] national security policy and FISA," noted in a May 2007 letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the interception of a landline telephone call between a person abroad and a person in the United States, regardless of whether either of them was the target of the surveillance, would be "electronic surveillance" under FISA if the interception occurred in the United States and would therefore require a court order in most circumstances. Discussing the application of FISA's "electronic surveillance" definition to a hypothetical landline call between two people, A and B, Kris wrote that "[i]t is ... 'electronic surveillance' under [then-]current Subsection (2) [of FISA's definition of "electronic surveillance"] if the contents of the call are acquired from a wire (not a radio signal), whether or not the government is targeting either A or B (or anyone else), as long as at least one of them is in the United States, the acquisition of the content occurs in the United States, and neither A nor B consents."

Angle also asserted that under the proposed FISA revisions, the government would need to obtain a separate court order to eavesdrop on each overseas terrorism suspect because they could call someone inside the United States. Angle reported that "Democrats want to replace the current law with one that would require the NSA to obtain warrants on foreign terrorists if they call someone in the U.S., which Republicans on the Intelligence Committee say is impossible." He then aired a clip of Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) saying: "If I'm targeting you, I don't know who you're going to call next. Are you are going to call an American next? Are you going to call someone in the U.K. next? And I need a warrant for everybody because I don't know who you're going to call next." Angle then asserted that this "[m]ean[s] thousands of court orders would be needed for almost everyone the U.S. wants to intercept, even if they're all foreigners, on the chance some would call the U.S."

During the Special Report "All-Star Panel" segment, Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes similarly asserted that the bill "would require for the first time terrorists making calls or sending emails or working on the Internet from overseas, that you would need a warrant if they contacted an American. Well, the problem is, as Heather Wilson, the congresswoman from New Mexico said, 'You don't know when they're going to call Americans or not.' " Host Brit Hume then said, "So, yeah, if you're eavesdropping on somebody and they pick up the phone, you don't know who they're going to call." Barnes replied, "Sure. So you'd have to have a warrant on them -- on these terrorists from overseas, period, because you wouldn't know when they're going to call an American."

In fact, Section 105B of the bill approved by the House Judiciary Committee would allow the government to apply for a single "blanket warrant" that would authorize the government for one year to "acquire the communications" of any person the government reasonably believed to be a non-"U.S. person" (citizens and permanent residents) outside the United States. From the bill:

''SEC. 105B. (a) IN GENERAL.--Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General may jointly apply to a judge of the court established under section 103(a) for an ex parte order, or the extension of an order, authorizing for a period of up to one year the acquisition of communications of persons that are reasonably believed to be located outside the United States and not United States persons for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information (as defined in paragraph (1) or (2)(A) of section 101(e) [of FISA]) by targeting those persons.

On October 10, the committee amended the bill to also require that government submit to the FISA court "a description of ... the guidelines" it will use to "ensure" that the government applies for an individualized court order "when a significant purpose of an acquisition [under the "blanket warrant"] is to acquire the communications of a specific person reasonably believed to be located in the United States." The author of that amendment, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), explained in a statement to the committee:

I hasten to add, Mr. Chairman, that neither the bill nor our amendment requires the Government to obtain a FISA order for every overseas target on the off chance that they might pick up a call into or from the United States. Rather, the bill requires, as our amendment makes clear, a FISA order only where there is a particular, known person in the United States at the other end of the foreign target's calls in whom the Government has a significant interest such that a significant purpose of the surveillance has become to acquire that person's communications.

While Angle noted that the bill "would allow blanket warrants that last a year," he did not describe what they would authorize or attempt to reconcile that fact with Wilson's assertion that "[i]f I'm targeting you, I don't know who you're going to call next. Are you are going to call an American next? Are you going to call someone in the U.K. next? And I need a warrant for everybody because I don't know who you're going to call next."

From the October 10 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume:

ANGLE: The new law, which was passed in August but expires in January, made clear that even if terrorists' communications passed through the U.S. via the Internet, intercepting them does not require the approval of a U.S. court. But the Democratic chairman of the House Judiciary Committee argues that bill gutted FISA, the law that governs electronic surveillance.

REP. JOHN CONYERS (D-MI): And would essentially grant the administration carte blanche to listen in on communications involving American citizens. That's why we're here, to stop it.

ANGLE: Officials vigorously dispute that, saying any targeting of an American absolutely requires a warrant and that about 100 have been obtained this year. But Democrats want to replace the current law with one that would require the NSA to obtain warrants on foreign terrorists if they call someone in the U.S., which Republicans on the Intelligence Committee say is impossible.

WILSON: If I'm targeting you, I don't know who you're going to call next. Are you are going to call an American next? Are you going to call someone in the U.K. next? And I need a warrant for everybody because I don't know who you're going to call next.

ANGLE: Meaning thousands of court orders would be needed for almost everyone the U.S. wants to intercept, even if they're all foreigners, on the chance some would call the U.S. There is one other major dispute President Bush made clear today, he will not sign a new bill unless it provides liability protection to telecommunication companies who cooperated with the government and now face multibillion-dollar lawsuits as a result. But Democrats say they're fair game.

REP. JERROLD NADLER (D-NY): And if they broke the law, they should be subject to lawsuits. And if they didn't break the law, that's why they have millions and millions of dollars' worth of lawyers, and that's why we have courts to determine whether they broke the law.

ANGLE: But Republican [Rep.] Dan Lungren [CA] says if companies helped in the days after 9-11, when the U.S. was worrying about another attack, suing them is just wrong.

LUNGREN: And they said, "You think the American people are in danger? We will assist you. We will respond to your request."

[end video clip]

ANGLE: He said it's unfair to expose them to lawsuits for responding patriotically, but Democrats say they want to know more about what happened. As far as getting court approval for listening to terrorists overseas, the Democratic bill would allow blanket warrants that last a year. But even requiring warrants for terrorists calling the U.S. from abroad is a major departure, something the law has never required since it was passed some 30 years ago.

[...]

HUME: So what -- there's a bill on the -- now that's in place, it was a temporary measure. The president was for that and would like to see it extended. What has changed in this new version of the bill that has the president concerned. Fred?

BARNES: Well, that bill expires in February, and so you're going to need new legislation.

HUME: Right.

BARNES: The president would be happy to have it merely renewed permanently, but the Democrats have come up with something else, House Democrats -- a bill that would just make the gathering of intelligence electronically a lot harder. It would require for the first time terrorists making calls or sending emails or working on the Internet from overseas, that you would need a warrant if they contacted an American.

Well, the problem is, as Heather Wilson, the congresswoman from New Mexico said, "You don't know when they're going to call Americans or not."

HUME: So, yeah, if you're eavesdropping on somebody and they pick up the phone, you don't know who they're going to call.

BARNES: Sure. So you'd have to have a warrant on them -- on these terrorists from overseas, period, because you wouldn't know when they're going to call an American.

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    • Author by Pithaughn (October 12, 2007 7:22 pm ET)
         

      No, the problem is it is unconstitutional to  eavesdrop on US citizens by our employees, the goverment. See we elect someone, they take an oath to uphold the constitution and we expect them to do it. If they don't follow our instructions in the constitution we should fire them. It's just like when you get hired, they give you a copy of the employee handbook, you sign a statement acknowledging you understand the rules. If you break the rules, hasta la vista baby! Let's all remind our elected officials who they work for, as many of them seem to feel it's the other way around!

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      • Author by bittermarv (October 12, 2007 7:27 pm ET)
           

        No, the problem is it is unconstitutional to  eavesdrop on US citizens by our employees, the goverment.

        Without a warrant or other court order, you mean.  FISA, as this article points out, has existed to provide such warrants, even after the fact, so that law enforcement could do what it needs to do in a timely fashion.

        What Bush wants to do is to go on a fishing expedition through all electronic transmissions and see what he can dredge up.  THAT is unconstitutional, Bush knows it, and he's since stopped doing it.  (Well, he says he's stopped the program.) 

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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 12, 2007 7:27 pm ET)
         

      If a wanna-be reporters like Jim Angle, Fred Barnes, and Brit Hume want to be at all taken seriously.....

      Wouldn't it be proper of them to tell the truth about things as important as this issue?

      If these clowns want to claim they are 'Fair and Balanced' instead of a tool to be used by those in power, you'd figure this would be a no brainer...

      Just wondering.....

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      • Author by SFnomad (October 12, 2007 8:13 pm ET)
           

        Faux Noise isn't 'Fair and Balanced', they're 'Biased and Unhinged'.

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    • Author by SFnomad (October 12, 2007 8:12 pm ET)
         

      It's so unlike the bloviators on Faux Noise to get something wrong. </s>

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      • Author by Conchobhar (October 13, 2007 12:41 am ET)
           

        Your mission, when you work for Rupert Murdoch, and I'm quoting a reporter who moved from the NY Post to the Times, is to "seek and distort."

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    • Author by princeofwheels (October 12, 2007 10:04 pm ET)
         

      Looking into the future----What will these people say when the Democratic Party rules both Houses and the White House? They will demand that everything they wanted was "really" what the Dems wanted and thereby, everything should go back to square one.

      They moan and complain about Sen. Clinton now wait til she takes over King Georges' seat.

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      • Author by oldmarine (October 12, 2007 10:18 pm ET)
           

        Of course “Bush” wants to go fishing.  Most of us are cheering him on.  We want him to find terrorist messages before the terrorists act.  The folks doing the fishing have much better things to do than check on ordinary citizens  -  unlike the Clintons and their illegal use of private citizens’ FBI files.

         On Hillary taking over King George’s seat, what are your odds?  I’m looking for some action

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        • Author by solon (October 12, 2007 11:00 pm ET)
             

          Your weak speil is tired. Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. We all get that you rightwing fascists dont care diddly about the bill of rights or the Constitution but I would sure like my daughter to come of age in a country with all the rights I grew up with. If Bush wants to wiretap anybody I am all for it if there is an American on one end of the call get a darn warrant. If Bush is too incompetent to do his job in compliance with the law let him resign and lets someone with an adequate IQ have the job.

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          • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 13, 2007 3:00 am ET)
               

            Maybe the law is intended as a reminder. The laws may have technically been in place, but once we get rid of the current regime, it might be nice to give our federral government some "refresher" courses on the Constitution.

            Hopefully our young marines and other troops aren't pathetic p*ssies like certain old ones, cheering on the president to imitate the Soviet Union in order to make cowards feel safe.

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    • Author by dangrady (October 13, 2007 11:16 am ET)
         

      SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

      I'd like to make a long tirade at this point, but SOLON just stole my thunder!!

      Here, Here, SOLON!!

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

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    • Author by JennyG (October 13, 2007 6:13 pm ET)
         

      I want to know who works for these media reporters, because we all should be aware, that once these "journalists" make it big they hire interns to do all the work, just like they did the work for their predecessors. I would warn the interns, producers, assistants, make-up, and costume employees in news institutions to do themselves a favor and double-check everything you do, cuz you'll be the first to go when repeated mistakes keep going on air, or print- except if you work for Fox News Channel

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (October 14, 2007 1:26 pm ET)
         

      O.M. I'd like some indications, you know cells and plots taken down, though the effective use of fishing. I know, I'm not to know for my own safety. Waiting it, the sucessful war against a tactic to be completed, before I'll be told, seems like a mugs game.

      The handling of the recent Osama video, put the people who secured it in danger. Why similar sucess of the fishing expiditions isn't flaunted, is probably it hasn't had any. Sucess against terrorists anyway. Its political use I don't doubt.

      This fishing is on U.S. citzens. That is were the concern comes from. What planet did you say you were from? 

      I was out of the loop on the illegal use of F.B.I. files. My ears are not still ring from Sean loudly telling me all about it. Does he know.

      Far as odds, depends. If Gore can appear as viable and willing candidate. I'd give him even odds against Hillary.

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