Schlussel smeared Soros, "believe[s]" Deutsch "was lying about his own religious status"
SUMMARY: In a post on her website, Debbie Schlussel claimed that Media Matters is "anti-American, anti-Israel, and funded by [philanthropist] George Soros, a Jew who proudly worked for the Nazis rounding up Jews and sending them to their deaths." She also wrote, "I believe Donny Deutch [sic] was lying about his own religious status" in the interview, and that she "doubt[s] that" he is a "practicing Jew," because "his show is on live during the Jewish Sabbath, and keeping the Jewish Sabbath is the most important commandment for a religious Jew to keep."
In an October 11 post on her website titled "Nice Try, Media Matters Nazis, But Ann Coulter is No Anti-Semite," right-wing pundit Debbie Schlussel claimed that Media Matters for America is "anti-American, anti-Israel, and funded by [philanthropist] George Soros, a Jew who proudly worked for the Nazis rounding up Jews and sending them to their deaths." She also described Soros as "the billionaire atheist Jew who's lived his entire life like a Nazi."
To support her claim, Schlussel linked to an April 18 post in which she smeared Soros (a Hungarian-born Jew who survived the Holocaust) as "a fake Holocaust survivor, who -- instead of 'surviving' the Holocaust -- helped the Nazis perpetrate it." In the same post, Schlussel falsely claimed that Soros has funded Media Matters. In a May 1 blog post, she referred to Media Matters as "Nazi-funded," linking to the same April 18 post.
In her April 18 post, she cited David Horowitz and Richard Poe's book, The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party (Nelson Current, 2006) to claim that Soros is a "war criminal and proud Jewish Nazi." Like Horowitz and Poe, Schlussel pointed to Soros' experience as a 14-year-old boy in Nazi-controlled Hungary to suggest that he collaborated with the Nazis. In that post, she claimed that "Horowitz details how Soros bragged on CBS' '60 Minutes' of helping his adopted father round up Jews to send them to their deaths at the camps and confiscate their property." Taking the smear further, she claimed in her October 11 post that Soros personally "round[ed] up Jews and sen[t] them to their deaths." As Media Matters has noted, during the December 20, 1998, edition of 60 Minutes, interviewer Steve Kroft stated: "My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson." Kroft added, "Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews." Soros responded, "Yes, that's right, yes." He did not "brag[] ... of helping his adopted father round up Jews to send them to their deaths."
Michael T. Kaufman wrote in a biography of Soros, Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire (Knopf, 2002), that Soros' father attempted to protect his family from Nazi persecution by paying an employee of Hungary's Ministry of Agriculture named Baumbach to take in Soros, "ostensibly as his godson." Soros accompanied his "godfather" as he went to oversee the confiscation of property from Hungarian Jews, as Media Matters has noted.
In the October 11 post, Schlussel was responding to controversy over right-wing pundit Ann Coulter's October 8 interview with CNBC host Donnie Deutsch in which she asserted that "we" Christians "just want Jews to be perfected," as Media Matters documented. Schlussel said of the October 8 edition of Deutsch's show, The Big Idea, that "one of the two viewers watching this incredibly boring show was a Media Matters monkey trained to tape Ann's every word and think of ways to twist it."
Schlussel also wrote in her post, "I believe Donny Deutch [sic] was lying about his own religious status" in the interview, and that she "doubt[s] that" he is a "practicing Jew," because "his show is on live during the Jewish Sabbath, and keeping the Jewish Sabbath is the most important commandment for a religious Jew to keep." During the interview, Coulter said to Deutsch: "Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not." Deutsch responded: "I actually am. That's not true. I really am."
Additionally, Schlussel claimed, "True religious Jews are not offended by Ann's comments," and added, "It's only the Jewish libs, like Deutch [sic], who are feigning this shock and outrage. That's because she's a threat to their real religion: liberalism."
From Schlussel's October 11 blog post:
The Internet and Mainstream Media are abuzz in their latest attack on Ann Coulter. This time, they're claiming she's an anti-Semite.
It all stems from an interview she did with CNBC's horrid talk show host Donny Deutch [sic]. Apparently, one of the two viewers watching this incredibly boring show was a Media Matters monkey trained to tape Ann's every word and think of ways to twist it.
[...]
Contrast that with the villain here: Media Matters. It's anti-American, anti-Israel, and funded by George Soros, a Jew who proudly worked for the Nazis rounding up Jews and sending them to their deaths. Hmmm . . . him versus Ann Coulter? That's an easy choice. I'd much rather go with the woman who looks like an Aryan but is a friend to the Jews and their allies than the billionaire atheist Jew who's lived his entire life like a Nazi.
Again, if she is not bothered that I think that as a Jew, I'm one of the Chosen People (and she isn't), I certainly can't be bothered in the least that she thinks that Jews must be perfected to Christianity. I think the fact that far too many of my fellow co-religionists have substituted unabated liberalism for Judaism is what gives so many a platform for questioning us, though I don't believe that is what Ann was doing here.
And for the record, I believe Donny Deutch [sic] was lying about his own religious status. When Ann started down this road, and Deutch [sic] got so "offended," Ann asked him why he doesn't practice his religion, Judaism. He responded that he is a "practicing" Jew. I doubt that, since his show is on live during the Jewish Sabbath, and keeping the Jewish Sabbath is the most important commandment for a religious Jew to keep. I believe most religious Jews would not characterize Deutch [sic] as a "practicing" Jew, not that it matters, but since we're nitpicking along with the self-appointed nit-watchers here . . . . I, for one, enjoyed Ann needling him on that, since he needled her.
True religious Jews are not offended by Ann's comments, though they really appreciate her alliance with our causes. It's only the Jewish libs, like Deutch [sic], who are feigning this shock and outrage. That's because she's a threat to their real religion: liberalism.
After reading the daily crap these regressives spew, I really feel the need to take a shower.
Can we prove Ann is a practicing Christian? I don't see any evidence of this. Where are the photos of her at church? Not speaking there but just going to church to worship- I have not seen that. After being a lifelong Christian (Roman and now Espiscopalian) I am turned off by these so-called Christians and Christianity in general. Maybe this is hell? It sure feels like it right now.
Ignore the issue but practice the Personal Politics of Destruction. This has been the Reich Wingnut Media's MO for a long time now. Doesn't surprise me anymore. Especially after what happened this week.
You know, for an outfit that has been so devastatingly disciplined in terms of message over the past decade-and-a-half, Republicans sure are sloppy when it comes to who they send out to represent them.
I mean, really -- Debbie Schlussel? I think if they were really concerned about winning over anyone except the 29-percenters, they'd have this girl running to get their coffee and their dry-cleaning. She can't be doing their side any good when she speaks in public.
Religion is very personal, Schlussel has crossed the line in her attack on Deutch. These are really not nice people.
I know it's not going to happen, but it would really be nice to have the Great Evil One file a libel lawsuit against Ms. Schlussel. Bexause that's what it is. Pure libel. 'Lived his entire life like a Nazi'? And it's classic winger--"Ann's not a Nazi because her opponents are bad!" Let's see: "Hitler's not anti-semitic because Stalin is an eeevil man!" Yeah, that works. Danny Deutsch is not a practicing Jew because he hosts a show on Saturday! and he doesn't wear a yarmulke either. This is the high school debate team floundering and being penalized as they embarrass themselves. This is the sort of speech that I'd liketo use in an elementary school class in rhetoric. "Now, who can tell me what fallacy Debbie is using here? Is it--ad hominem? and what does that mean? Saying something isn't true because the speaker is a bad person. Oh, but there's something else--anybody? All right, OK, it's a trick question. She's just lying!"
This is one of the most pathetic defenses of Coulter I've ever read. Deutsch was "needling" her, so she was right to "needle" him? I guess "needle" can now mean both "interview" and "disrespect".
EXTRA EXTRA- Debbie Schussel Now Going Door to Door in Attempt to Outrage People
Normally I try really hard not to resort to name calling but it's Friday and frankly I simply don't have it in me to try.
Debbie Schussel is a loud mouth boring cow. Ann is a skinny loud mouth broad in need of food to enrich he lack of brain cells and to close her big mouth.
There, now I feel better.
Pearlene, Schlussel clearly says that Deutsch is the bad guy here, and has no reason to be offended.
I believe Fox will be filling their "SpokesJew" position shortly.Move over, Juan Williams.
HBL, do these guys have balls or what!. I'm simply amazed. So they get 'upset' set over a supposed 'insult' to NASCAR but hey Donnie not only has no reason to be upset but he must PROVE he's Jewish. They throw out insults like 'Nazis' and 'fake Holocaust survivor' and feel no shame. Annie, Debbie, Sean, Rush and Bill have become the face of the Republican party. If the moderates want their party back, I suggest getting these guys a one-way ticket to Darfur.
What is it with all the neoclowns portraying George Soros as some vile progressive boogey man? What's with the vast left-wing conspiracies? That is a good question: Why doesn't Soros sue these clowns for libel?
What would be the big deal even if Soros did give money to MMFA?
I think it's a lot scarier that Murdoch is taking over and corrupting our media.
Soros doesn't sue for the same reason Hillary's Media Matters doesn't sue -- they would lose.
Ever wonder why Hillary's Media Matters claims they don't get money from George Soros? There must be a pretty good reason.
Cenneidde,
Ever wonder why Hillary's Media Matters claims they don't get money from George Soros? There must be a pretty good reason
There is a good reason, but one that only appeals to the reality-based community. It's a fact. But don't let that stop you from perpetuating the irrelevant talking point. While you're at it, you might throw an elbow at the Frosts.
"There must be a pretty good reason."
Yeah, Sherlock. You and Dr. Watson let us know the results of your investigation.
Why is MMFA so embarrassed by its association with Soros?
Did discredited journalist and admitted liar David Brock learn a lesson from his association with Richard M. Scaife?
Why is MMFA so embarrassed by its association with Soros?
Answer: They are "embarassed" only in your fantasy World of toy soldiers and Wishful Thoughts.
You are a moron and your mother dresses you funny WHEN she can get you to come out of her basement
It has to do with Soros not wanting it to be known that he is part of the the new Progressive (Socialist) movement in this country that will eventually put us in the same situation as Nazi Germany, that he pulls the strings of the extreme leftwing puppets (Pelosi, Clinton, Reid, etc), and that the "unbiased" views expressed by MMFA and MoveOn.org could jeopardize their non-profit status. Thus, the request for "donations".
You should ask: why do so many people in here adamantly deny his involvement? It would not be profitable to run an organization like this strictly on a for-profit basis since the product that is "for sale" is really not worth buying. Heaven help those who think it is.
You should ask: why do so many people in here adamantly deny his involvement?
Uh, maybe because ITS NOT TRUE!
Then again, truth never mattered to ideologues like you.
You should ask: why do so many people think that Soros is some magical "Wizard of Oz" being that is some kind of left wing puppeteer? Where's the proof?
Ever wonder why no one rational takes you seriously? Its because you are a moron. Baseless assertions combined with basic stupidity are your stock and trade and its getting too tired to keep laughing at.
"What is it with all the neoclowns portraying George Soros as some vile progressive boogey man?"
Because he's an International Financier and a Rootless Cosmopolitan, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
And don't forget his association with the Carlyle Group.
Who is Debbie Schlussel to take a shot at ANYONE'S ratings? Or call anyone's show boring? She had a radio show in Detroit for about a year, which was (guess what?) incredibly BORING, and got cancelled due to (guess what?) LOW RATINGS. Glass Houses, Schlussel.
Ignorant hysteria. The one group the Nazis hated as much as they hated Jews was LIBERALS. All three of the totalitarian systems, Fascism, Nazism and Communism murdered liberals in their thousands. Our liberal-hating, fact-free reichwingers are following in admirable footsteps.
Dead on,Conchobhar. All the while crying about the (fairly accurate) comparisons, while simultaneously making the (non-reality-based) comparisons to the other side.
Thanks Lefty.
When I look at some of the names in this administration and on hate radio/cable, going all the way back to the execrable Fr. Coughlin, I get very depressed. I'm always glad to see your posts, because they remind me that my family and I aren't the only Irish who haven't "become white."
Slan
Har! Say it Loud, I'm Paddy and Proud!
We need a name for those people. Just as Blacks have "Oreo" and the Mexicans I work with have their "Cocos", or coconuts, for those pochos who are white on the inside.
What's green on the outside and white in the middle? Granny Smith apples?A bit clumsy.
I like the reference to The Commitments.
Actually, there is such a word. It's seanin, or shoneen. It means "little John," and is a play on Sean Bua, Gaelic for John Bull. It refers to any Mick who "slavishly apes English ways."
More upscale society used to (and perhaps still does) use the term, "West Briton," which appeears in Joyce's The Dead. I would guess that very few American readers recognize the scathing contempt conveyed when Gretta calmly refers to her husband, Gabriel, as a WB.
WB as a term of contempt: what a coincidence.
(It's Sunday, let's go off topic.)
Interesting,Conchobhar ( and glad you caught The Commitments reference).
I've never read The Dead, but this must be sign that I'm supposed to read more Joyce.That usually involves getting rid of all distractions and shaking off my laziness.
I recently moved, and during that move uncovered a book of short fiction I hadn't seen in a while. I re-read Araby, and as much as I've always loved that story, it reminded me how much Joyce could put into 5 or 10 pages, and consequently how scary digging into one of his longer works can be.
I'd better start preparing myself. ;0)
Well, The Dead is densely packed, but it is a short story. It's in the collection called The Dubliners, if I remember correctly. You might check out John Huston's film version of it. It stars Angelica (she grew up in Ireland), and was a real labor of love, the last film he directed before he died.
If you've never read A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, I'd recommend that. You might call it a more accessible prequel to Ulysses.
Slan
Ah, I was thinking The Dead was a play. I have Dubliners, but haven't read it in a while.
Staying "off-topic," have you seen Ken Loach's The Wind that Shakes the Barley?
Why ask for proof? Reich-wingers don't believe in proof.
1. Anti-American Shlushell trashes Americans.
2. Anti-American Shlushell fails, as anti-American right-wingers always do.
3. Anti-American Shlushell pitches hissy-fit.
4. Nobody cares.
5. Anti-American Shlushell fades into anti-American right-wing noise.
6. Nobody cares.
I think what is happening here is that Coulter and Malkin are part of a secret sorority--Kappa, Kappa, Kappa (KKK). This is rush week and Ms. Schlussel is despeartely trying to get asked to pledge, but first she has to establish herself as a true KKK girl. I, for one, think that she will make it into the club.
The KKK is a fraternity, not a sorority. Note that Sen. Robert Byrd, who wore a KKK sheet during World War II instead of a military uniform, was one of its leaders.
Byrd... Yes sir, what a man totally unrelated to the topic of conversation did 65 years ago is really relevant to the conversation we're having. Thanks for the great contribution.
Hey Look Over There!
Nice try troll! Note to you, all of the Dixiecrats are now republicans. I'm from the south and the republican so-called Southern Strategy is every bit as bigoted and hateful as what the KKK stands for. The RNC is all about disenfranchising black voters which is a blatant violation of the Voting Rights Act. (Read Armed Madhouse for detailed breakdown of republican shenanigans) As far as Senator Byrd is concerned, he has since apologized for his youthful indiscretions and is a tireless supporter of civil rights. You reich wingers love to attack the senior senator because he is vehemently opposed to the pre-emptive war in Iraq. He gave an incredible speech right around the time of the vote to give the president the authority to use force in Iraq. Of course, everyone conveniently forgets that the use of force was dependent on many things, the least of which was an additional vote by the United Nations...Of course, that never happened but King George got his war nonetheless!On the actual topic of this MMFA post, who is this Coulter apologist? I don’t think I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing/reading her before. Questioning what a frightened teenager (Soros) may have done 60+ years ago is classic. Of course we are to ignore what Bush did years ago like: Dodge the draft, go AWOL while protecting Texas from Oklahoma, Use cocaine (allegedly) which caused him to not pee in a cup resulting in loss of flying privileges, getting busted for DUI, getting special treatment from FEC after insider trading, abusing animals as a child…I could go on and on. In any event, defending Coulter is all I need to about this woman to know that she is just another sycophantic right wing nutcase. The sad thing is if she is indeed Jewish, she is only being used by Christians like Ann to help to bring about Armageddon and the Rapture!
The words are outrageous, and are intended to outrage. The charges are made with anger and fury, and are intended to infuriate.
The temptation is almost overwhelming to respond in kind, to namecall and characterize in an ad hominem manner, as is the practice of the Rightwing.
I would hope our side would resist swallowing the bait, and demeaning ourselves by sinking to their level.
Henceforth, I personally will strive to take a deep breath, close my eyes for a moment, and respond to these rightwing propagandists with a simple prayer. Please join me, Liberal brothers and sisters, in extending a hope for our rightwing antagonists:
Forgive them, Father.
You're a better man than I, Gunga Tex.
The spirit is willing, but the foe is too foul.
It was this cow that said NPR stood for National "Palistinian" radio.
How much longer are we as going to allow this hate speech that is thinly disguised as "schtick" and "entertainment"?
I guess her pride in being Jewish is the reason she bleaches her hair and trys so hard to look Aryan. Patti
Who is Debbie Schlussel and why is is washing her hair with dish soap?
Quomodo cogie comas tuas sic viden?
Schlussel is desperate for attention. She use to be a frequent cable news circuit guest in the late 90's and then disappeared from the booking logs. Her roundabout way of trying to get attention (to get back on) only makes things worse for her.
Coulter never, ever, never meant to draw attention to herself (and her new "book") by being very offensive on national tv. But not too too offensive. After all, there are some limits. And it's fun (and profitable) testing where those limits are, isn't it Ann? Those tv hosts and anchors sure are gullible dupes, eh Ann?
And Coulter can always depend on hiding behind her little platoon of Coulter apologists (led by Sean Hannity) and the "Coulter Lites", like the amateurish boot-licker Schlussel, who acts like the overeager, gawky and fawning high school student that desperately wants to hang out with the awesome Most Popular girl.
Coulter accuses Deutsch of not being a practicing Jew but the members of her church in NYC say she hasn't darkened its doors in years.
Why is Schussel going on national television showing her hair if she's so observant? Where is her wig???
These people are hate-mongers. When anyone lets them get away with their smirking smearing slime, they encourage them. Free speech, yes; hate mongering, no. They are not religious; they have no ideals or principles; they have no morals. Most of the time they hate Jews or anyone who happens to Muslim or black, but they keep it a secret and only let it slip out when they can state something outrageous. A blast of cold water will wash away some of the filth they spew. It's like that quote (I'm paraphrasing here): First they came for the gypsies; then they came for the homosexuals; then they came for the Jews; and nobody protested; then they came for the Catholics and all of the Christians; and now they're coming for you.
We are seeing the actual collective mental meltdown of the radical right wing. Ah yes, more self righteous delusions by this shrew and Ann Coulter wannabe in attempt to justify and cover blatant hate mongering for entertainment, stagnant book sales or web site hits. Awesome. Yet just another example of why these outer fringe psychos are imploding and could render the party they leach from impotent for the next 20 years. Thanks to the collective works of the Paris Hilton twins of the political set.
I have not heard of Debbie Schlussel before seeing this post. I went to the link to read the original post byh Debbie, and, on the whole, it's a pretty reasonable post. The fact that she herself is Jewish and is not offended about AC's remarks is a pretty valid point:
Again, if she is not bothered that I think that as a Jew, I'm one of the Chosen People (and she isn't), I certainly can't be bothered in the least that she thinks that Jews must be perfected to Christianity.
However, as an honest observer who is only interested in the truth, I'm afraid I have one small criticism of Debbie Schlussel - the point about Soros actions during WWII was unfair.
But, with that having been said, you should go to her website and read the full article. It's pretty good!!
Billiebob, as usual you don’t have a clue, you couldn't even buy a clue. Just because Debbie is not offended DOES NOT mean that Donnie has no reason to be offended. If you’re as honest as you claim you would have said that while Debbie is not offended Donnie has every right to be offended.
WE ARE INDIVIDUALS!
There isn’t a damn thing in her post that would leave any rational thinking person to believe anything she says. Get it, ‘rational thinking’. But actually I’m sorta glad you don’t get. You guys keep on spouting off this insane crap and you will isolate yourselves more and more. Eventually you won't even have a stage to voice your insane thinking. I for one can't wait till that happens.
pearlene_scott1602
All I'm pointing out is that Debbie is a proud Jewish woman who is not offended by AC's comments. I'll also point out that Dennis Prager, a conservative radio talkshow host, who is also an observant Jew, is likewise not offended -
(quote from freereblic review of the Prager show) Prager said something very smart about this situation during his morning show today. He stated that there was nothing anti-Semitic about wishing that Jews would become Christians. We all wish that people would come around to our points of view on most everything. (end of quote)
I have not seen Michael Medved's reaction to AC's statement.
My main point is that since I'm not a Jew or an Evangelical Christian, it is hard for me to judge how "offensive" Coulter's remark truly is. So far the reaction to Coulter seems to be falling along partisan lines. This tells me that there is something more at work here than simply what Ann said on cable.
I'M BACK... AND STILL WAITING FOR ONE SIMPLE ANSWER TO ONE SIMPLE, YET IMPORTANT QUESTION... DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JEWS NEED TO BE "PERFECTED"?
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JEWS NEED TO BE "PERFECTED"?
whillenbrand: I have said this many times - I am not an evangelical Christian. I could care less if some people want to be "perfected Jews".
However, since you seen to be so concerned, I will pray for you -
Dear Lord Almighty God Jesus -
please hear my prayer and grant unto "willenbrand" some wisdom. Save him from liberalism and don't allow the lefties to poison his mind with worthless drivel. Oh Creator of Heaven and Earth - with All Righteousness and Justice, do unto "willenbrand" a great Miracle this day - bring him nto a saving knowledge of Truth and allow him to see that MMFA is a blight upon the nation - YEAH - VERILY - I PRAY ALL THESE THING UNTO THE LORD AND MASTER.
A-MEN AND A-MEN!
Wow.. I'm expecting a holy-ghost miracle!!
There, does that help?
Thanks, I feel better already! For someone who professes not to be a religous person, you sure spend a lot of time denying your faith. Your avoidance of my original question is telling and your avoidance of this question means only one thing, YES, you do believe that Jews need perfecting.
Actually, I think you are just goofing on this site with no real conviction either way. Thanks for the prayer - it certainly doesn't hurt!
If I wasn't familiar with your posts, I would think that was all over-the-top sarcasm.
Billybob, she insulted the Jewish religion. She said that Jews needed to be perfected. She was saying that Jews were inferior.
One person's religion is no better nor worse. It is personal choice. Who is Annie to tell anyone about 'christianity'. Her idea of heaven is like the Republican convention? Her reason, because Republicans are so tolerant? Does saying Jews 'need to be perfected' sound like a tolerant person?
Even if, like many tell me, she just says this crazy stuff to sell books, that simply makes her a whore willing to sell herself for money. I respect the prostitute on the street corner more, at least their are honest.
- pearlene_scott1602
I am just going to say this on a personal level. I'm not really a religious person at all. But from my experience I have observed that most people have a belief or faith in something that they "know" is the capital 'T' "Truth" and that they truly, in their heart of hearts, would prefer that ALL people would adopt their faith. For many people, this is their religion. For other people it's a "sacred" ideology, like communism.
I'm sure that there are many people who support MMFA who would prefer that ALL people adopt their views on politics.
When you hold some really strong beliefs, you don't just say to yourself that the other side is just as valid. You think that the other side is WRONG. Be honest, don't you think that conservative who come and mix it up with MMFA supporters are not just wrong, but that you would prefer that they would change and adopt YOUR side's beliefs?
Well, people who have strong Christian religious convictions truly believe that Jesus is God and that they have the "Great Commission" to save the world.
In all honesty, I think that in today's world the evangelical Christian tends to be the biggest friends that the Jewish people have.
"...the evangelical Christian tends to be the biggest friends that the Jewish people have."
Really...which Jews? The sane Jews or the fundamentalist Jews whose ideology is just as crazy as that of the evangelical Christians? Religious fundamentalism, whether its Christianity, Judaism or Islam, is a problematic aberration. From your name may we assume that you have some connection to Bob Jones University, Billiy? If so, that explains your posts and reveals you as the kind of religious nut job that is typically associated with Bob Jones University. Fundamentalists don't live in reality. Perhaps all of you should consider colonizing Mars. But then I'm sure you would fight among yourselves over which Martian lands are holy lands.
Be honest, don't you think that conservative who come and mix it up with MMFA supporters are not just wrong but that you would prefer that they would change and adopt YOUR side's beliefs?
I don't care what they do.
And why are you equating politics with religion?
In all honesty, I think that in today's world the evangelical Christian tends to be the biggest friends that the Jewish people have.
Oh, you mean the rapture righties?
I have also read, seen, observed, noted, heard that all religions have the same desire. They all want to convert the whole world. Look at all the poor indigenous people who have been made into sinners by religious missionaries after living for centuries in freedom from guilt. Some even want to kill those who want to leave their religion.
BBB, I did a little research. Coulter's comments are more than just offensive. They're downright dangerous. This is from Tim Rutton's column in Saturday's LA Times.
"supersessionism," the theological notion that Christianity "completes" or "perfects" Judaism is, along with the deicide libel, anti-Semitism's major theological underpinning. Indeed, in Central and Western Europe between the world wars, there was a substantial body of purportedly "respectable" intellectual opinion that held "supersessionism" made possible a "reasonable" theological anti-Semitism that was entirely licit, as opposed to the Nazis' and fascists' illicit, "racially based" anti-Semitism. It is fair to say that the rails leading to Auschwitz were greased by precisely the opinion Coulter expressed on American television this week.
BILLIYBOBJONES defends himself with a proud tradition: “My main point is that since I'm not a Jew or an Evangelical Christian, it is hard for me to judge how "offensive" Coulter's remark truly is.”
When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.
Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
WE ARE INDIVIDUALS!
I'm not.
Perhaps Debbie Schlussel was not offended by AC's anti-Jewish remarks because the words seemed to her to be reasonable. Maybe.
But it's AT LEAST as likely that, as a minor (at best) right-wing talking head, she knew that she damn well better agree with the alpha she-male or else find her cameos on Faux News dwindling to nothing.
Or I suppose it's possible that she just recognized that AC is a parodist of... well, not the highest order, certainly, but definitely a parodist. The idea that anyone takes anything she says seriously is bizarre. The proper response to almost everything she says or publishes is a riotous guffaw.
TripleB:
"On the whole, it's a pretty reasonable post." On the whole? I don't think I'd go that far. She does have some reasoned arguments, I'll admit. That bit about doubting DD's bona fides as an observant Jew because he broadcasts live on the Sabbath seems pretty apt to me, but then, I'm a Gentile and can't speak from certain knowledge.
When she starts referring to MMFA and liberals in general, however, she starts to foam at the mouth.
And as to your having a little problem with her being "unfair" to George Soros, I'm shocked. I would have thought that to "an honest seeker of truth" libel and character assassination would be a BIG problem. It is to me.
I'm not Jewish, but I was totally offened by Ann Coulter's level of stupidity on The Big Idea. I felt so uncomfortable when Donny Deutch let her know she had offended him, and she said she hadn't. Where did she learn that she could undermine a person's feelings, by saying that's not how they should feel? She was completely disrespectful to him.
I think it's pretty unfair to criticize Schlussel. I mean, the poor girl is mentally retarded, and I don't think it's funny that you pick on her.
Forget for a moment that she spews Right-wing hatred. The fact that someone severely impaired like Schlussel can maintain a blog of her own is pretty remarkable.
It is kind of cute that she pretends Ann Coulter is her BFF, though, sort of like an imaginary friend with an Adam's apple.
I'm going to have to be honest here - I really don't care if Debbie Schlussel is the sharpest knife in the drawer. She is a real hottie -
And look... I'm just going to say what many people are really thinking - I don't have a lot of info on Debbie, but I would really crave a Schlussel-Coulter "sandwich! (on an intellectual level, of course!)
Quod cibus est alis, alis est veneum.
Just as I thought. No real conviction, just using this board as a goof that is moving over to the sexual. It's not healthy to sit in your in mothers basement posting and fantasizing about images you see on T.V.
I'm going to have to be honest here - I really don't care if Debbie Schlussel is the sharpest knife in the drawer. She is a real hottie
Billybob I'm going to pray for you. Pray for your eyesight to be restored.
Oh I get it. You have a skank fetish
"I would really crave a Schlussel-Coulter sandwich!"
Good Gawd man! No wonder you feel that way. It's Saturday night and there you are typing trash into your sister's computer in your parent's basement. You really have to get out more.
I don't have a lot of info on Debbie, but I would really crave a Schlussel-Coulter "sandwich!
Oh man, I didn't eat lunch yet, but I had to pull my wastebasket over here because I might start dry-heaving!
I hate to break it to BBJ but Larry Craig wants Ann and Jeff Gannon in a ménage à trois. It all came about quite innocently. Craig was in a washroom at Faux News and had adopted a wide stance (feet into the adjacent stalls) as he took a piss. His press secretary explains: "Senator Craig was, at the time, listening to his iPod. He was playing John Ashcroft's stirring rendition of Let the Eagle Soar which alway just sets his feet a-tapping. It wasn't as if he knew it was a signal or anything. He had no idea Gannon and Coulter were in the stalls beside him." Witnesses to the incident say that Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh also left that washroom a few minutes later. All were wisked away in a limo owned by Roger Ailes. Ailes' office had no comment on the incident.
I gotta say, trying to rebut deranged cultists like Debbie Schlussel seems like a pretty pointless endeavour to me. It's like arguing that that the alien Mother Ship is NOT going to land any day now and take the true believers to Alpha Centuri.
Sane people already know this; the lunatics will never believe otherwise. I think Media Matters would be better off aiming at better known morons such as Rush and Bill, who are at least semi-rational enough to be embarrassed.
A google search of "Debbie Schlussel tries out ann coulter business model" returns over 13,200 results. What a pathetic Coulter wanna be. Must make Anny proud to have a young acolyte to help her carry water for, who are they carrying water for? Anyone?
debbie is the jewish coulter....how dare she speak for religious jews. and how dare she attack someone who survived the holocaust. no sane jew questions what someone did to survive that horror....
debbie is the jewish coulter....
She is also the SpokesJew counterpart to Juan Williams' position as Fox SpokesNegro- that individual who, for a price, can explain that any remark made by their bosses is not offensive to anyone in their particular "group".
And "Jew" refers to an ethnicity, not just a faith. It doesn't matter one bit whether or not a person practices Judaism.