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Wash. Post quoted White House saying not for Congress to "work[] out" whether Armenians suffered "genocide" -- but Bush himself did in 2000

October 15, 2007 12:45 pm ET
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SUMMARY: A Washington Post column discussing a congressional resolution that would label the killing of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire from 1915-1923 as genocide quoted White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe saying, "What happened nearly 100 years ago in Turkey and Armenia is tragic, but is an historical issue that needs to be worked out by those two countries, not the United States Congress." But the column did not mention that as a presidential candidate in 2000 Bush sent a letter to the Armenian National Committee of America declaring that "[t]he Armenians were subjected to a genocidal campaign that defies comprehension." According to an excerpt of the letter, Bush also said that if elected president, he "would ensure that our nation properly recognizes the tragic suffering of the Armenian people."

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In the October 15 Washington Post "In the Loop" column by staff writers Michael Abramowitz and Peter Baker about a resolution approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee on October 10 -- labeling the killing of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire from 1915-1923 as genocide -- the authors reported that "President Bush has found himself in a morally and politically ambiguous position on what may be one of the most vexing questions that can face an occupant of the White House: When does carnage rise to the level of 'genocide'?" The article further quoted White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe saying, "What happened nearly 100 years ago in Turkey and Armenia is tragic, but is an historical issue that needs to be worked out by those two countries, not the United States Congress." But the column did not mention that as a presidential candidate in 2000, Bush sent a letter to the Armenian National Committee of America, in which, according to a press release on the organization's website, he wrote that "[t]he Armenians were subjected to a genocidal campaign that defies comprehension." According to the excerpt of the letter posted on the website, Bush also said that if elected president, he "would ensure that our nation properly recognizes the tragic suffering of the Armenian people," as Media Matters for America documented. Similarly, October 15 articles by The New York Times, the Associated Press, and The Washington Times, reported the Bush administration's objections to the resolution but did not note Bush's pledge in 2000.

On October 10, the blog Think Progress highlighted the Armenian National Committee of America's press release. Despite Bush's reported characterization of the Turkish killing of Armenians a "genocidal campaign" and his reported pledge as a candidate that he would "ensure" that the United States would "properly recognize[]" the event, as president, he does not appear to have used the term "genocide" -- or any variant thereof -- to describe the killings, according to a search of the White House website. From the "partial text" of Bush's letter on the Armenian National Committee of America website:

The twentieth century was marred by wars of unimaginable brutality, mass murder and genocide. History records that the Armenians were the first people of the last century to have endured these cruelties. The Armenians were subjected to a genocidal campaign that defies comprehension and commands all decent people to remember and acknowledge the facts and lessons of an awful crime in a century of bloody crimes against humanity. If elected President, I would ensure that our nation properly recognizes the tragic suffering of the Armenian people.

From the October 15 Post article:

President Bush has found himself in a morally and politically ambiguous position on what may be one of the most vexing questions that can face an occupant of the White House: When does carnage rise to the level of "genocide"?

He came out forcefully last week against a congressional resolution labeling as genocide the killings of hundreds of thousands of Armenians between 1915 and 1923, even though most historians agree with that conclusion. Yet Bush continues to describe atrocities in Darfur as genocide, even though many experts, including some in his administration, doubt that the situation there of late qualifies.

Underlying those decisions are political dynamics as much as technical definitions. The administration worries that the Armenia resolution could imperil relations with Turkey, a key U.S. ally that has hinted at all manner of retribution, such as barring the U.S. military from transferring goods for the Iraq war through the Incirlik air base. By contrast, the administration has little concern about alienating what it considers a loathsome regime in Sudan and does not want to retreat from a principled stance.

The White House acknowledges little contradiction between the positions Bush has taken on Armenia and Darfur. "A genocide has taken place in Sudan," spokesman Gordon Johndroe said by e-mail last week. "If the United States always waited for the rest of the world to act in Africa, more people would already have died of HIV/AIDS, malaria and TB, more people would have less food, and more innocents would have died in Sudan."

Johndroe added: "What happened nearly 100 years ago in Turkey and Armenia is tragic, but is an historical issue that needs to be worked out by those two countries, not the United States Congress, which has a lot of other legislation it needs to take up at the moment."

From the October 15 New York Times article:

The Bush administration is continuing intensified efforts to prevent passage of the resolution, which Nancy Pelosi, the House speaker, is promising to bring to the floor.

Eric Edelman, an under secretary of defense, and Daniel Fried, the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs, arrived in Ankara, the capital, on Saturday in an effort at damage control. "We have to be realistic about the difficulties of defeating this resolution but we intend to keep fighting it and make our points as clear and strong as we can," Mr. Fried said in a telephone interview.

From the October 15 AP article:

President Bush has said the resolution is "not the right response to these historic mass killings," but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) said the measure's timing was important "because many of the survivors are very old."

In an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Pelosi noted that the resolution would make the U.S. the 24th country to acknowledge the genocide.

House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) called the measure "irresponsible."

"What happened 90 years ago ought to be a subject for historians to sort out, not politicians here in Washington," he told "Fox News Sunday."

From the October 15 Washington Times article:

The Bush administration says the resolution could undermine the U.S. position in Iraq as it urges Turkey to refrain from any major military operations in northern Iraq. The Turkish government is planning to seek parliamentary approval for military operations against a militant group, the Kurdistan Workers Party, based in the mountains of northern Iraq.

"I don't think the Congress passing this resolution is a good idea at any point, but particularly not a good idea when Turkey is cooperating with us in many ways, which ensures greater safety for our soldiers," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, said yesterday on "This Week."

But Mrs. Pelosi denies the measure will permanently weaken diplomatic relations with Turkey or put U.S. troops at risk.

"I think our troops are well-served when we declare who we are as a country and increase the respect that people have for us as a nation," she said, dismissing the possibility of Turkish retaliation as "hypothetical."

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    • Author by greekfurnace (October 15, 2007 12:51 pm ET)
         

      Well, come on! He was trying to get elected President for God's sake! That was all 'pillow talk'.

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (October 15, 2007 12:57 pm ET)
           

        Besides, Bush didn't actually write that. I would be surprised if Bush is capable of writing a coherent sentence. I know he's incapable of speaking one...

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    • Author by wookie (October 15, 2007 12:59 pm ET)
         

      >>The Bush administration says the resolution could undermine the U.S. position in Iraq as it urges Turkey to refrain from any major military operations in northern Iraq. The Turkish government is planning to seek parliamentary approval for military operations against a militant group, the Kurdistan Workers Party, based in the mountains of northern Iraq.

      How can we have freedom on the march if people keep bringing up that pesky genocide?

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    • Author by DaisyDeadhead (October 15, 2007 1:07 pm ET)
         

      Are you expecting Bush to remember what he said <i>seven years ago?  </i>

      hahahaha!

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    • Author by poncho8527785 (October 15, 2007 1:27 pm ET)
         

      Someone needs to explain to me how risking destabilizing the already volatile situation in the Middle East with this ridiculous bill serves any purpose.  Turkey has become an ally of the US and is a very brave but fragile government in the midst of Radical Islamic regimes.  What good could this possible accomplish, aside from alienanting the people of Turkey for something that THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE not the present Turkish government did 100 YEARS AGO??  Pelosi claims this is for the victims??  Who is served by insulting the people of Turkey?  Something else is definitely going on here. 

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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (October 15, 2007 1:58 pm ET)
           

        Well, here's more hypocrisy for ya... we slam Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust yet we want to do the same thing when it comes to the Armenians. Oh, wait, I guess it's 'politically wise' to deny the Armenian Genocide at the present time because of Turkey's 'special relationship' with the USA arising from this ill-conceived war.

        Oh, we've seen this sort of thing before. Whatever benefits the USA is all that matters. Truth or lie... doesn't matter.

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        • Author by poncho8527785 (October 15, 2007 2:17 pm ET)
             

          I don't think anyone is denying it didn't happen - all I am saying is that with all the stuff that Congress COULD be working on or SHOULD be working on, why this issue?  It is a well documented historical fact that the deportation and execution of Armenians did, tragically, occur.  It's indisputable.    My question is, what is served by this resolution?  What is the motive behind it?   I am confused.  Just looking for answers.

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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (October 15, 2007 2:45 pm ET)
               

            This wouldn't have to be done if Turkey would just acknowledge the facts and come to terms with them in the same way that Germany did after WWII. But noooo... Turkey is just being a whiny little denier and the USA doesn't have the balls to call Turkey out on it.

            If Congress can find the time for MoveOn and Rush condemnations then they certainly can find time for issues such as this one.

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            • Author by poncho8527785 (October 15, 2007 3:04 pm ET)
                 

              Exactly my point.  Instead of passing all these worthless resolutions, why aren't they doing something worthwhile?  How about protecting our borders, how about finding a way to eliminate earmarks?  How about doing something for real, instead of all this grandstanding for election?  How about they just do the job they were elected to do and took an oath for?  Every day I am more disgusted with the whole sorry bunch of them - BOTH parties.  Non-partisan disgust.

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              • Author by RABBITLUVR (October 15, 2007 4:29 pm ET)
                   

                As a third generation Armenian-American I do not consider this resolution to be 'worthless'. Nevertheless I thank you for your input.

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                • Author by poncho8527785 (October 15, 2007 5:01 pm ET)
                     

                  Well then, maybe you could offer the perspective I was looking for.  How does this resolution, passed by this group of people, at this time positively impact anything? 

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                  • Author by redking75687 (October 15, 2007 9:18 pm ET)
                       

                    Maybe it's an attempt to deflect criticism from the genocide both parties are perpetuating in Iraq or the genocide they are assisting in Palestinian.

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                  • Author by RABBITLUVR (October 16, 2007 10:58 am ET)
                       

                    It has a 'positive impact' because it will mean that the genocide has received official recognition by the US Government... recognition that is shamefully overdue.

                    As far as I am concerned I really couldn't care less if Turkey is 'offended' by it. The Turkish nation needs to 'man up' and acknowledge the truth and come to terms with it. Germany did it after WWII. And I also do not give a damn about US policy in Iraq simply because this was an ill-conceived war. Period.

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    • Author by billpettygc8302 (October 15, 2007 2:01 pm ET)
         

      This is a good idea.  While we're at it, less pass a resolution acknowledging the genocide of Native Americans.

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      • Author by bittermarv (October 15, 2007 6:16 pm ET)
           

        I think those are called gambling compacts, but I could be wrong.

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    • Author by spintronic (October 15, 2007 2:18 pm ET)
         

      You know what? If a simple acknowledgment of an event is enough to fray diplomatic relations, how much of an ally is Turkey?

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      • Author by bittermarv (October 15, 2007 6:18 pm ET)
           

        Not much of one if Turkey is considering a unilateral incursion into Northern Iraq.

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    • Author by onionhead (October 15, 2007 2:44 pm ET)
         

      "Revolution, the only solution!

      The one voice of an entire nation. 

      Revolution, the only solution! 

      We've taken all the sh*t, now it's time to restitution!"

      --P.L.U.C.K. System of a Down

      It's Time to Remember by Serj Tankian

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    • Author by mercado (October 15, 2007 2:59 pm ET)
         

      If you really want to know why Turkey and Bush don't want this resolution  to be voted on, read the book by Peter Balakian called,  "The Burning Tigris"  The Armenian Genocide and the American Response  This book should give you a idea why both countries want it to go away and fast!

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    • Author by drape295972 (October 15, 2007 3:53 pm ET)
         

      Why is there not a single journalist out there who is willing to ask why President Bush has blatantly flip-flopped on this issue? He not only recognized the killings as genocide in 2000 but he actually pledged to have the US recognize the slaughter. How is this fact ignored in every report?

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (October 15, 2007 7:24 pm ET)
         

      We have a number of posters with famlial links to these folks. I don't, but I believe it is important for many books worth of reasons. For now Mutual Altruism is enough for me.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (October 15, 2007 9:11 pm ET)
         

      If your up for it, some interesting information regarding our efforts to defuse this situation (clue, the current administrations victories, though effective diplomacy include:). The efforts, and quantum uncertainty of his present status, of a Mr. Ralston.

      The link on Eric Alterman's column regarding Andrew Sullivan and (young)Ezra Klein. The articles good, more wingnut wheels fall off, down in the comments section a certain "kidneystones" at 6:56 AM gives some details. Before he (theoretically) quit, brokered a sale of lockheed aircraft to Turkey. If there's some parts of the story that ain't classic enabled wingnut end to end, some body show my where.

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