Claiming he never attacked the Frosts, Limbaugh mimicked Graeme Frost and attacked Dems for "exploiting" family
SUMMARY: Discussing Graeme Frost and his family on Hannity & Colmes, Rush Limbaugh claimed, "I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old -- a 12-year-old they send out before microphones and cameras to sit there and say," and mimicking Graeme's voice, continued, " 'I only want health care for the rest of American children like I got, and George Bush is against it.' The 12-year-old can't write that garbage!"
On the October 18 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while discussing Graeme Frost, the 12-year-old who delivered a Democratic radio address criticizing President Bush's veto of a bill to expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), co-host Alan Colmes told guest Rush Limbaugh: "You feel you were attacked by certain people. You claim that liberals as a whole lie and can't defend themselves. I debate conservatives every night. But you have attacked people like the family, for example, of Graeme Frost ... using the words of somebody from the Free Republic. Should this family be the victim of barbs from anybody because they're trying to do best for their kid?" As Think Progress noted, Limbaugh responded: "You know, Alan, that's an interesting question. I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old -- a 12-year-old they send out before microphones and cameras to sit there and say," and mimicking Frost's voice, continued, " 'I only want health care for the rest of American children like I got, and George Bush is against it.' The 12-year-old can't write that garbage!"
The Frost family relied on SCHIP to pay for the treatment of injuries Graeme and his sister Gemma suffered in a car accident in 2004. In an October 6 post on the Free Republic website titled, "The 'Not So Poor' 12 Year Old Who Rebutted Bush on SCHIP Veto," user "icwhatudo" disclosed that Graeme "is a middle school student at the exclusive $20,000 per year Park School," and that "Gemma ... attended the same school prior to the accident. " The post went on to include additional details about the family's finances. As Media Matters for America documented, following Graeme's radio address, conservative bloggers aimed several attacks at his family, from questioning their financial status to referring to Graeme's parents as "mostly spoiled brats who became parents and never felt compelled to take responsibility for themselves." Other media outlets then echoed or cited the bloggers' attacks. For example, on the October 10 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh said that the Frosts "can clearly afford [health insurance]. They just choose not to." During a report on the October 11 edition of CNN's American Morning, as the blog Think Progress noted, anchor John Roberts said of the controversy: "Conservative bloggers like Michelle Malkin pounced, claiming the Frost family is a fraud, too wealthy for government assistance. One accusation: that Graeme attends a $20,000-a-year private school. The family insists scholarships cover most of that bill." He added: "Some of the accusations may be exaggerated or false, but did the Democrats make a tactical error in holding up Graeme as their poster child?"
On Hannity & Colmes, Limbaugh also asserted: "The fact of the matter is, Graeme Frost was covered and got the health care -- he and his sister both got the health care they needed under the current circumstances of the program. The Democrats sent those two little kids out there to make the American people think that they would not get covered because Bush didn't want to expand the program." In fact, Graeme did not suggest anywhere in his address that he and Gemma "would not get covered because Bush didn't want to expand the program." Rather, as Limbaugh noted earlier, Graeme specifically stated that he and his sister "got the help we needed because we had health insurance for us through the CHIP program," adding, "But there are millions of kids out there who don't have CHIP, and they wouldn't get the care that my sister and I did if they got hurt." From Graeme's September 29 address:
Hi, my name is Graeme Frost. I'm 12 years old and I live in Baltimore, Maryland. Most kids my age probably haven't heard of CHIP, the Children's Health Insurance Program. But I know all about it, because if it weren't for CHIP, I might not be here today.
CHIP is a law the government made to help families like mine afford healthcare for their kids. Three years ago, my family was in a really bad car accident. My younger sister Gemma and I were both hurt. I was in a coma for a week and couldn't eat or stand up or even talk at first. My sister was even worse. I was in the hospital for five-and-a-half months and I needed a big surgery. For a long time after that, I had to go to physical therapy after school to get stronger. But even though I was hurt badly, I was really lucky. My sister and I both were.
My parents work really hard and always make sure my sister and I have everything we need, but the hospital bills were huge. We got the help we needed because we had health insurance for us through the CHIP program.
But there are millions of kids out there who don't have CHIP, and they wouldn't get the care that my sister and I did if they got hurt. Their parents might have to sell their cars or their houses, or they might not be able to pay for hospital bills at all.
Now I'm back to school. One of my vocal chords is paralyzed so I don't talk the same way I used to. And I can't walk or run as fast as I did. The doctors say I can't play football any more, but I might still be able to be a coach. I'm just happy to be back with my friends.
I don't know why President Bush wants to stop kids who really need help from getting CHIP. All I know is I have some really good doctors. They took great care of me when I was sick, and I'm glad I could see them because of the Children's Health Program.
I just hope the President will listen to my story and help other kids to be as lucky as me. This is Graeme Frost, and this has been the Weekly Democratic Radio address. Thanks for listening.
From the October 18 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
COLMES: Hey, Rush, it's Alan once again. You feel you were attacked by certain people. You claim that liberals as a whole lie and can't defend themselves. I debate conservatives every night. But you have attacked people like the family, for example, of Graeme Frost, and quoting -- using the words of somebody who posted on the Free Republic. Should this family be the victim of barbs from anybody because they're trying to do best for their kid?
LIMBAUGH: You know, Alan, that's an interesting question. I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old -- a 12-year-old they send out before microphones and cameras to sit there and say, "I only want health care for the rest of American children like I got, and George Bush is against it." The 12-year-old can't write that garbage!
The fact of the matter is, Graeme Frost was covered and got the health care -- he and his sister both got the health care they needed under the current circumstances of the program. The Democrats sent those two little kids out there to make the American people think that they would not get covered because Bush didn't want to expand the program.
The Democrats are amazingly brazen in this at using kids, using seasoned citizens. I never attacked this family. I simply reported what their financial circumstances are. I actually feel sorry for them to be used.
This is another thing. If you would turn on my radio show and listen to me, you would know I never once attacked -- I would not attack a 12-year-old kid. I feel sorry for the fact that the kid is having words put in his mouth. He's sent out before the whole country to lie, when he can't know any better, because he's 12 years old, simply to advance another lie that the Democrats want to put forth, because the SCHIP program is nothing more than a stealth attempt to get socialized medicine inculcated over as much of America as possible.
You can't tell me that children are 25 years and younger. You can't tell me that a family of four making 82 grand is poverty-stricken -- and that's what this program would have done. It is obscene.
HANNITY: Hey, Rush, Sean -- last question. I'd be negligent if I didn't ask you. I remember a while back, Matt Drudge on his website had up there, "Limbaugh: 80 percent chance Hillary becomes the next president." Do you -- assess the presidential election in the short time we have left, and do you really think she has that good a chance of winning?
Limbaugh in that segment is "not mocking" Frost in the same way that he did not mock Michael J Fox by spasmodically waving his arms around on camera. Who should his viewers believe, Rush or their own lying eyes/ears?
Oh, I'm sure the mocking of the boy was taken out of context.
Out of context - is that how Rush used to take his OxyContin???
Rush said he never once attacked the Frost family?
Telling his viewers that the Frost boy whined and moaned and cried to President Bush is not a personal attack on the charactor of this boy???
Isn't it an attack on the family to give listeners false information about the value of their home and schooling, and refer his listeners to "verified" information on Free Republic" Is it not an attack to help spread false rumors about the family?
Here is part of his transcript from his Oct. 8th show.
" RUSH: I had some rudimentary information on this two weeks ago, and it wasn't enough for me to trust going with. But since then, it has been verified, and most of it's been verified by a "Freeper" at Free Republic. Everybody is writing about this now, since the Freeper posted it over the weekend. This 12-year-old kid that the Democrats used in the Saturday radio address to whine and moan and cry to President Bush about the SCHIP children's health program, it turns out that the family of this kid sends its kids to "one of Baltimore's expensive private schools." This family owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000 to $500,000 range. This family bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000. [...] "
"Telling his viewers that the Frost boy whined and moaned and cried to President Bush is not a personal attack on the charactor of this boy"
He's saying that the Democrats made the boy do this to further there own agenda. Rush is simply saying that the Dems have used this young boy to further their agenda. It's clear from past history that the Democrats like to use sympathetic figures to further their agenda. Rather than debating the actual issue they try to appeal to people's emotions by blatantly using sympathetic figures for their own political gain. It's sick what the Democrats are doing.
Okay Rhino....then Rush should be a man and go after the Democrats...not ATTACK A CHILD, who probably did one of the scariest things in his life by making a speech in front of all those people.
So you are upset the Democrats put him up to this.....Here Rush is going after the boy by saying the boy whined, moaned, and cried, and then mimics his voice.
Oh, how brave of Rush....can't take on the Democrats, so he goes after a child. Typical.
That must be why Harry Reid won't appear on Rush's show after being invited as he smears him endlessly on the Senate floor (so you can't tell me Rush isn't "worth his time") and hides behind the speech and debate clause that he enjoys as a senator, doing a job senators aren't even supposed to do. Rush is a coward for trying to engage such a pathetic person in a debate in the first place.
This has really gotten out of hand. Limbaugh never mocked or attacked this kid.
You'll note, by the way, that the media never listens to real kids when it comes to health care. Instead, they listen to kids like this one -- the phony kids.
A real kid would be proud to earn his own health coverage. Kids today know what they're getting into when they sign up for diseases and illnesses. This phony kid, though, has been used by the Democrats. They've strapped lies to his belt and sent him out to run into as many people as possible and blow himself up like some sort of propaganda bomb.
If you just stop listening to what Limbaugh actually says and pay attention to what Limbaugh says about what he says, you'll find that everything becomes much clearer.
GREAT!
But, may I humbly amend:
"You know, this is such a blatant use of an adorable ill child, lying to him about what I said, then colonizing those lies in his bronchioles, sending him out via the media in a radio ad to infect as many people as he can sneeze on."
"It's sick what the democrats are doing".
Maybe they should redirect an aircraft carrier at taxpayer's expense so GW can have a pilot jockey a "let's pretend the president is a fighter pilot" landing on the deck.
Maybe we should be upset about GW grounding the coast guard in New Orleans for several hours so he could get that fine photo op in a hanger with the heroes who had to wait to do their job so they could be in a picture with him.
How about all the upset we should feel whenever GW poses like a girl with real US soldiers in Iraq with a fake turkey, keeping them from what we sent them to do so GW could look good?
What's that, RINO? You ain't upset? Of course not, you only feign rage when a democrat does it.
Oh....and let's not forget little Ashley from Ohio, in 2004. As an Ohioian, I got more than my fill of it in the newspapers, radio, and TV.
Ashely praised President Bush in his campaign ad, but I guess that is okay with Rino?
Taken from USA Today article 1/15/2005:
Ashley Faulkner was the focus of Ashley's Story, a pro-Bush campaign ad that aired nearly 30,000 times in the month before the election Nov. 2.
In the Faulkner family's own words, it told how Ashley had lost her mother, Wendy, in the Sept. 11 terror attacks. When President Bush learned of this at a Lebanon, Ohio, campaign rally, he gave her a spontaneous, emotional hug. Her father snapped a photo that became the centerpiece of the ad many observers deemed the most moving of the campaign.
"He's the most powerful man in the world," Ashley said in the ad, "and all he wants to do is make sure I'm safe, that I'm OK."
The trip by Ashley, now 16, her father, Lynn, and her adult sister Loren will be paid for by Progress for America, the conservative group that aired the ad. The family leaves today to attend the swearing-in, the parade and the Patriot Ball, which is for Ohio residents.
"She thinks it's kind of neat," Lynn Faulkner said. "Obviously, this is something we've never done before. ... We're kind of thrilled."
He said he and his daughters will be a few "of a gazillion people" who will watch President Bush take the oath of office for his second term.
Rino: "Rather than debating the actual issue they try to appeal to people's emotions by blatantly using sympathetic figures for their own political gain."
That kid is the "actual issue" and he's a "sympathetic figure" because he, and his parents, are right about the issue. Objecting to this kid is like objecting to the United Negro College Fund using a black kid in their commercials.
Whino translation: we should never use fellow americans to put a face on legislation unless it benefits republicans. Aircraft carrier landing at taxpayers expense? OK. Mulitple kids around when republicans sign the "no child left behind" law? OK. Coast Guard servicemen prevented from rescuing Katrina victims so a republican president who fiddled on a guitar like nero the day before can pretend to be compassionate? OK. Democrats bringing forth a 12 year old who benefited from the current program? AAAAAAAAAAGH! THE SHAME! WHY ARE THEY USING A CHILD AS A SHIELD? THE COWARDS! OH, THE COWARDS!
... and as long as we're talking about GOP hypocrisy when parading kids around, don't forget the 'snowflake children' who were there when W banned all federal funding for stem-cell research.
Exactly. Limbaugh is the one who does not want to discuss the issue. He wants to discuss the MESSENGER. The Democrats are the ones discussing the issue in these ads. It's about children's health care. Showing children actually helped by the program is directly discussing the issue.
Rush also wants to make this about the Democrats, when the fact is, many Republicans supported this bill to fund SCHIP. He seems to conveniently leave that part out of his attacks on Democrats.
Besides, conservative anti-abortionists commonly use pictures of a dead fetus whenever they want to protest abortion. How is this any different? They try to put a "human face" on that issue constantly, but God forbid the Democrats show you living children helped by SCHIP.
Like others have pointed out, Bush fills his press conferences for things like No Child Left Behind or vetoing stem cell research with children. Their party does this all the time, yet the "Rino Hunters" and Rush Limbaughs of the world conveniently ignore that fact.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/07/19/us/20bush600.1.jpg
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I guess for me the key here is what's the real truth about this family's financial situtation? Having sold insurance I can say first hand there are PLENTY of people out there who could afford health insurance but they choose to spend their money on other things. Guess what. That drives costs up for the rest of us. A family of 4 making 82 grand can't afford health insurance? Are there adults living in the real world that actually believe that?
I don't listen to Rush. Work gets in the way but I don't see anything too aggregious in his comments.
"I guess for me the key here is what's the real truth about this family's financial situtation?"
Lucky for you, attack dogs like Michelle Malkin, hell bent on exposing the imagined hidden wealth of this family, got to the bottom of that situation and revealed that they in fact COULDN'T afford health care for their child. Surprise, surprise, the kid actually IS a real example of someone who was legitimately helped by the program.
You may not have time to listen to Rush, but you certainly allowed him and the other right-wing blowhards plant that seed of doubt in your head. Whether you listen to him or not, you took his bait.
And p.s. I don't know where you got that $82,000 figure, because every source I pulled up in a search says that the Frosts make a combined total yearly salary of $45,000, which does in fact qualify them for the program.
"the Democrats made the boy do this to further there own agenda"
BULL****
No one held a gun to this boy's head or the heads of his parents.
Did you notice Rush used EXACTLY the same line on the Vet who did the ad condeming the "phony soldiers" thing from Vote Vets?
That whole thing about "strapped those lies to his belt," etc.
Anyone who speaks out on behalf of the DemocratIC Party can't possibly be speaking their own mind, can't possibly be well informed, can't possibly be presenting their own perspective on their own story. They must, by definition, be empty vessels incapable of thought into which Democrat[ic] lies are poured, and they speak them like zombies unaware of their words' meaning or consequences.
This construction does, however, neatly excuse Rush from the task of actually addressing the CONTENT of their remarks.
Yes, the Democrats are sick..they are acting like Republans. At least we can win the election that way. Sick is as sick does.
Don't worry Rino. When the White House is painted blue, you can really scream to Rush and beg him to tell you that it is still the White Guy House. Sorry, but it may become PINK.
>>Rather than debating the actual issue they try to appeal to people's emotions by blatantly using sympathetic figures for their own political gain. It's sick what the Democrats are doing.
It's perfectly legitimate politically for GWB to use kids in the photos when he's selling his No Child Left Behind program; it's perfectly legitimate for GWB to be photographed on an aircraft carrier boasting "Mission Accomplished"; but somehow it's "sick" if the Democrats have a 12-year whose LIFE WAS SAVED by the S-CHIP program talk about it?
The hypocrisy of the GOP never ceases to amaze!
No. Out of context was when Clinton said he didn't have sex with THAT woman.
No Les. And in your case, Les is less.
Off topic is YOU tossing out strawman arguments like this one troll.
Rush likes to attack 12 year old kids...the term "White House dog" ring any bells?
I saw that live and promptly threw my slipper at the TV. Until that moment, I had no idea how putrid this pile of horshit actually was. I had heard of people with an empty soul, but at that moment, he showed me what the phrase--empty soul meant.
Rick, I saw that show too when it was originally broadcast and it made me furious. To publicly knock the looks of a young girl, particularly at an age when girls are so self-conscious, made me realize what a mean, bullying piece of crap Rush Limbaugh is. I have never forgiven him for that.
Do you remeber how Limbaugh smirked?
Limbaugh must have had the crap kicked out of him regularly in school. I'd bet $100 he's hit a wife or girlfriend at least once in his past. He so enjoys the pain he inflicts on the weak and innocent, especially when they are unable to hit back.
Rush, please don't step into an alley where I might be taking a leak. I doubt if I could control myself.
"wife or girlfriend" TheRick, you're a riot.Do you really think Rush dabbles outside of the prepubescent boy zone?
HBL, you realize that I didn't say HIS wife or girlfriend didn't you? :-)
They should believe both since anybody who actually watched the program that Rush didn't mock the boy. He quoted the boy accurately and used his voice to make it clear that it was the boy's quote. Only in the world of liberalism is that an attack. And by the way, did you hear that Harry Reid's smear letter to Rush sold on ebay for 2.1 million today? Rush is matching that amount and sending it to children of those in the military. Rush is making the Dems look like fools as usual. Rush certainly won that battle.
Rino is using typical con logic, Don't hate him, he has dittobitess, a dread con disease.
You are a moron Rhino. A fact you proudly anounce to the world. You come in here and tell us that you are GOING to do your hivemind duty and regurgitate WHATEVER Rush told you to believe no matter how stupid and ludicrous it is. Good luck with that.
RINO, I've asked this before, maybe you'll answer me this time: Why do you have to tell us what Rush meant?
Do you think I/we can't see/hear this for ourselves?
Your hero worship is misplaced. Rush is your hero, not ours (forgive me for speaking for most of us non-rightwingers). We're not blinded by this bigoted, drug addicted, draft dodging, immoral, hypocritical, 3 times divorced, mysogenistic, immature, child bullying, lying, college dropout, and suspected pedophile, who is not good enough to be a bad excuse for humanity.
If you want to dance with the devil, go right ahead. I for one see the devil for what he is, a piece of garbage making a lot of money from you and others who plead to allow him to keep up the 'good work' by excusing his trangressions.
When you find a right winger worthy of your hero worship, I might take a serious look. This one is not.
Good post. When you dance with the Devil, the Devil dont change. He changes you.
Rinohunter, I don't expect you to speak for all dittoheads, I'll ask this only of you;
Are you not capable of understanding "quote" and "unquote"? Rush actually has to do an impression when relaying others' words to you?
Are you merely being as dishonest as you usually are, or are you really starting to believe your apologies for El Rushbo?
You can do better than that. I hope.
"Rush is matching that amount and sending it to children of those in the military"
Except children of "phony soldiers".
I'm surprised MMFA didn't post the clip where Limbaugh tells Colmes to stop listening to MMFA.
It should be noted Colmes also called him out on the fact that he edited out the clip. I give Colmes credit for having the balls to bring that up. Otherwise they just let limbaugh have the floor, it was like listening to his radio show and thus - quite lame.
Oh, the horror of socialized medicine, cradle to the grave,,,,,,,,,,for example, Germany:
"Germany's health care system provides its residents with nearly universal access to comprehensive high-quality medical care and a choice of physicians. Over 90 percent of the population receives health care through the country's statutory health care insurance program. Membership in this program is compulsory for all those earning less than a periodically revised income ceiling. Nearly all of the remainder of the population receives health care via private for-profit insurance companies. Everyone uses the same health care facilities."
Oh, no......;;;;;;;;
Lush Bimbo to the rescue, to lie about "socialized medicine" and deny he is mocking a 12 year old boy while he is doing it.
The UK has the world renowned National Health Service, formed in 1948. It gives us free healthcare but also allows us to use private healthcare if anyone wants to jumps waiting lists or believes they can get better service in the private sector.
There are endless debates about the NHS and value for money as demands for new drugs and treatments become available, but it is a superb service that guarantees everyone basic medical care. Dentistry is a different matter, howver, whereby virtually all dentists are private to massive disenchantment in the UK. The only problem with the NHS currently is Labour Government interference by trying to skew statistics to show how great the NHS has become under their stewardship. This means we get endless stats on how much waiting lists have fallen, which in reality means that more bureaucrats have been hired to middle manage those on the frontline and a lot of money provided to the NHS hasn't reached frontline services as it should.
Still wouldn't want any other system though and it shouldn't discourage the US from implementing a version either.
If you are still around, I'd love to hear more about the dental problems...how the dental service dropped away. In Oregon, the original Oregon Health Plan contained dental coverage, but the Republicans in our legislature kept stripping out funding until it had to be dropped for everyone but minors.
so that explains austin power's teeth. [loved those movies, all three]
Maybe Rush is trying to save the kid's teeth.
English pull own teeth as dental service decaysLondon, United Kingdom15 October 2007 01:17<!-- Template Id = 1 Template Name = Banner Creative (Flash) --><!-- Copyright 2002 DoubleClick Inc., All rights reserved. -->Falling numbers of state dentists in England have led to some people taking extreme measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released on Monday.Others have used superglue to stick crowns back on, rather than stumping up for private treatment, said the study. One person spoke of carrying out 14 separate extractions on himself with pliers.http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/&articleid=321961&referrer=RSS
Did you bother to read what SI_W wrote above? And what does what you wrote have any bearing on Limbaugh's mocking of a 12 yr old boy? I know, trying to change to subjest of course.
Further, did you know it was the Republican congress that passed the SCHIP in 1997?
That's great! I heard Hannity hyperventilating about the tooth-pulling the other day.I guess Leatherhead didn't read that dentists are the more privatized profession in the U.K.. Hannity sort of mentioned it, but twisted it by insinuating that dentists were going into private practice because the state wasn't paying them.
And yet another apologist dittohead who feels compelled to explain "what Rush really meant".
You do know a whole lot people in the US forego dental care, because of its' excess cost.
Like $300 for a filling.
Says the person who in the same breath would condemn Republicans for "name-calling." But they are the ones with the double-standard.
Well I'm sure Rush could not have written a clear concise statement like this boy did at 12 , because he still can't. I've met several kids 12 and younger who could knock out a statement like that everyday. But of course Rush has no children so no surprise his ignorance regarding what it takes to raise children in the US.
My thoughts exactly. There are quite a few articulate 12-year-olds out there, and it's not like the kid was delivering a seminar on quantum physics.
Keep in mind that the 12-year-old kids that Rush is familiar with might have a limited knowledge of English sentence structure. I'm not sure what kind of education they can get in the Dominican Republic tourism districts...
Har! Good point, Neon.
Imagine the added frustration Rush has to bear. While most Republicans have enough to worry about with adults geting educated enough to stop voting Republican, Rush has to try to prevent children from educating themselves enough to get out of the sex trades.
Yep, those Republicans sure do love their secret gay bathroom antics and child sex slaves.Almost as much as they love the flag and Jesus.
Hey, HBL, if you love Jesus and the flag then what's a little secret gay bathroom sex on the side now and then. It's not like that actually makes you gay, you know. Jeeaz... ;>)
Just his appearance and sound of his voice makes me sick. Lisening to Rush and Hannity is like leven worse.
Latest CBS poll showed close to 80% of those polled are in favor of said program. Don't have link, will attempt to locate. Even some Repubs who voted against said it will likely come back to haunt them. But then again, Rush and GW know what's best for us.
It's actually 57%. It's nowhere near a consensus.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/57_oppose_bush_veto_of_children_s_health_insurance_legislation
con·sen·sus [kuhn-sen-suhs] –noun, plural -sus·es.
1. majority of opinion: The consensus of the group was that they should meet twice a month.
2. general agreement or concord; harmony.
Its not fair to expect Rhino to actually KNOW things unless Rush has told him. Until then he will have delusions about the definition of words just like he has delusions about everything else.
Shouldn't this site be called: Anti-Conservative Media Matters for America? I don't see any libs attacked: EVER.
You will not be attacked if you have a serious point and don't start in by name calling and insults.
Everyone here is on "rino's" case because he posted a link to back up his point; and the link actually proved that he had misread the statistic.
Mary, I'm not sure that Less was referring to the responses to Rino. He may be another one who's confused that a site dedicated to commenting on conservative misinformation doesn't spend enough time on other things.
Less may get just as frustrated when trying to order a burrito at the dry cleaners.
A burrito at the dry cleaners,,,,,now that's an idea for all the stressed out folk stopping in to pick up their clothes & plan dinner at the same time.
But seriously, HBL, I wish the conservatives would try to make some thoughtful points. This happens occasionally, but mostly it's name calling and inaccurate talking points which are then corrected over and over. There is a genuine need for push-pull for democracy to work properly.
That's pretty cute, Mary. Have you seen the volatile bigotry that comes from some of your peers' mouths? Referring to Limbaugh's addiction to painkillers, supposed child sex slaves, and pilonidal cyst does not a "thoughtful point" make. And for those of you making the equally "thoughtful" point that Rush has "no soul," please continue to ignore the extremely generous donation he just gave to a non-partisan military group dedicated to scholarships for the children of the troops you so readily claim to support. Don't call me a "dittohead" either; you people are all sycophants of this website if you apply that standard to everyone who supports Rush.
"Less may get just as frustrated when trying to order a burrito at the dry cleaners." HuntingtonBeachLefty
Oh-oh! If I'm understanding you correctly, then please excuse me while I run to Taco Bell and get my suits back.
Perhaps that's because we can disagree with each other without attacking each other. Liberals, in the main take seriously the "marketplace of ideas" theory, and are comfortable talking about ideas. Conservatives are not. When was the last time you heard a conservative spokesman "stick to the issues" of a controversy, rather than attacking the patriotism, etc. of the opponent?
I thought the most vivid example of this was the exchange between Elizabeth Edwards and Ann Coulter on Hardball. Ms. Edwards called in to ask Ms. Coulter to stop the ad hominem attacks and "stick to the issues."
Coulter's response? "She's asking me to stop talking. NO." Only a conservative could interpret a request to avoid character assassination as an attempt to shut her up.
In fairness to Ann Coulter (God, I NEVER thought I'd use that phrase!!), refraining from ad hominem attacks would in fact shut her up completely. She has nothing else to talk about!
Well, there is that.
Liberals don't get attached on Media Matters... but so what?
You never see CONSERVATIVES attacked on mediaresearch.org or ACCURICY IN MEDIA.
Media Matters was founded an as antidote to WHAT YOU GUYS WERE ALREADY DOING.
Why is it you guys hate FAIR PLAY so much?
Man-date: not what you go on every friday night, helmut head.
Actually, in the CBS poll 81% favor expanding the SCHIPs prog. Link is a PDF.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/CBS_news_poll_101707.pdf
The 57% in the poll you cited oppose Bush's veto.
The consensus on this blog is that you are an idiot.
Let's try another poll. A CBS poll shows 81% support expansion of SCHIP. Beyond that, the 54% you mention is only in reference to the use of the cigarette tax. There would still likely be quite a few who support the expansion of SCHIP among those who dislike the use of the cigarette tax for funding. Your poll does not show only 54% support for SCHIP.
"It's actually 57%. It's nowhere near a consensus."--RinoHunter
Rino, Thanks for the link. If you had bothered to read further down, it says 70% believe children should have health insurance.
[mygod sometimes it's too easy]
Oh, Rino Hunter is OODLES of fun!!
He comes up with an opinion first, and then finds whatever justification (however improbable) to back it up, and tries to "debunk" other fact-based analysis by the first thought or "refutation" that comes into his head.
I was vastly amused on a different thread when he tried to counter several stats I had cited from the World Health Organization by stating they couldn't POSSIBLY be able to estimate illegal procedures for the simple reason they were illegal. It very quickly became clear that Rino Hunter was assertively "refuting" their work although he had apparently never HEARD OF the World Health Organization!!
Perhaps CBS should have conducted that poll using the top 10% of taxpayers who will be funding it. I bet the numbers would've been different.
Yup. Let's make certain that the haves have, and the have-nots have-not.
Are the top 10% smokers?
Obviously, the Rush was criticizing the lazy and worthless Frost parents who have neglected their children AND the Democrat Party who used the Frost children as human shields.
I am contacting children's services in their state and reporting this child abuse to the authorities!
Do let us know how that goes...
Obviously, the Rush was criticizing the lazy and worthless Frost parents who have neglected their children AND the Democrat Party who used the Frost children as human shields. I am contacting children's services in their state and reporting this child abuse to the authorities! Billybob
How well prepared are you and your family for two of your children to be seriously injured? How well prepared are you and your family for two of your children to be hospitalized for over 5 months? How well prepared are you and your family for teaching your two seriously injured children to swallow, eat sit up, talk and walk? How well prepared are you and your family to deal with your two children, one who remains weak on one side and speaks with a lisp and the other is blind in one eye, has difficulty with memory, learning and speech and needs a behavioral psychologist to help her deal with the frustrations of her disabilities?
HOW WELL PREPARED ARE YOU!
Both Rush and Michelle are too dumb to breathe and you are even dumber for believing everything they say!
Yeah, the Frosts sound really abusive, considering what they've endured.
So now it's "the Rush"?
Rush has now joined Donald Trump in the esteemed Definite Article Club?
Pete, Rush could be a plural noun. He takes up enough space to be a plural something. He is also plural in his stupidity and duplicity.
"[Limbaugh] takes up enough space to be a plural something."
Like the Merchandise Mart here in Chicago, I believe Limbaugh has a unique Zip Code.
Seems to me you have bigger problems to address...first, you can't even spell your own name right. Billiy?
My guess is that BILLIY is a girl... and that Billiy has some connection to the ultra right wing Christian college Bob Jones University. Just a hunch...
after you do that, could you post your address so we can send out the docs to have you neutered? you should not be allowed to sire any children
I thought he was parodying the ignorance and heartlessness of the ReNAMBLAcan party
"As a non-profit, tax deductible organization, MMFA is never supposed to engage in partisan politics. However, as soon as you begin to do a little research and see the coordinated campaigns that link HRC, Center for American Progress, MoveOn AND MMFA, it is clear that there is a violation of the tax exempt status of these organization. I have already written a letter of complaint to both the IRS, the FEC and the FCC to help launch the investigation.
By the way, a look at most of the people associated with MMFA on the Staff link shows the close association between MMFA and the Democrat Party - and HRC.
If MMFA wants to keep it's tax exempt status it better start obeying the law.
-billiybobjones7678 / Saturday October 6, 2007 10:46:33 PM EST"
You must be a very busy and important boy BillyBob. The IRS, FEC, FCC and now state child protection authorities. I guess you have a lot of friends in high places. And "this is only the beginning" you said elsewhere on the thread. Yet MMFA website is still up. Or is there a storm coming they will not survive? How are those investigations going? Surely they must be keeping you in the loop. This afternoon the rest of us have to go to an emergency meeting convened by Al Gore, Hillary, and George Soros. Maybe that is what it will be about. Keep up the good work though. This is terrific comic relief. It also allowed us to negotiate higher pay scales from George. He must be very worried.
I've said it before, and it bears constant repeating:
Rightwingers HATE progressives, liberals, and Democrats MORE than Osama Bin Laden and the people who attacked us on 9/11. And EVERY TIME I'VE SAID THIS, never ONCE has a rightwinger disagreed!
The fact that slimeballs like Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity et.al NEVER talk about any need whatsoever to get Bin Laden, yet can't go 2 minutes without slimng Americans who don't share in their hysterical, reactionary political views, tells you all you need to know about the GOP and their followers.
6 years after 9/11 and no one on the right cares about getting Bin Laden. That is undeniably true! They NEVER mention him, except in political ads. They'll attack children, they'll attack 9/11 widows, they'll attack anti-war vets, they'll mock the disabled, they'll make jokes about Cindy Sheehan for losing her child pointlessly in Iraq - but never, in all their spittle-flying anger do they EVER rail against Osama Bin Laden!
And they blame some non-existent "liberal media", or Media Matters, for why the rightwing is so overwhelmingly despised by the American people. They can't fathom that it could honestly be because people despise Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter, and Bush for WHAT THEY SAY and WHAT THEY'VE DONE. And when Bush has succeeded in pasing on his failed occupation in Iraq onto the next Democratic administration, IMMEDIATELY the quagmire will become the Democrats fault.
"Democrat Party"
It's Democratic Party, oh worthless troll.
Putting a human face to a program the Democrats and a lot of Republicans support, and a program started by Republicans in 1997, is so evil. Ooooh. Just know this thing will be passed before next years election. It has been very successful in limiting emergency room costs and been very beneficial.
the entire segment reinforced my hatred of colmes...he sat there while el druggo spewed lie after lie...hey, i dont care if someone sells their own sould for a paycheck...i do care if this person tries to pawn themselves off as a lib...colmes aint no lib...
"colmes aint no lib"
Sure he is. He just isn't a hateful one like you. He's actually respectful and polite. We don't need people using personal attacks on talk shows. Any political commentator who would use a personal attack like calling someone "a druggie" certainly doesn't have any place on cable news.
You are so talking out of both sides of your mouth, not to mention other places. You are defending Rush Limbaugh! Unreal.
No he isnt he SAID he was quite moderate. YOUR delusions do not define reality.
We don't need people using personal attacks on talk shows. Rino
Limbaugh said his target was a reporter, whose name he said he would not "mention," who was writing "a cover story on me coming out of one of the big news magazines, and it was going to totally mischaracterize me and what I do and how I do it." Limbaugh continued: "[W]e found out who was writing it and made a couple phone calls to the person writing it. And we said, 'You know what? We're going to find out where your kids go to school. We're going to find out who you knocked up in high school. We're going to find out what drugs you used. We're going to find out where you go to drink and do -- we're gonna find out how you paid for your house. We're going to do -- and we're going to do exact -- and we're going to say that, you know what? You are no different than [link to query.nytimes.com] title="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE2DA163FF931A2575BC0A9629C8B63">Al Goldstein. You both masturbate.'
Rino you might want to contact Rush and let him know that's not a proper way to conduct himself.
is rush not an admitted drug addict?? did he not lie to his audience about his addiction? it is not respectful to allow a man to lie on a national cable program...it is cowardice.....el druggo lied about what he said in regards to the frosts....he lied about their financial status and has yet to apologize for that....he is scum...and i will not be nice to people i hold to be scum.....and when will el druggo come clean about his sex trips to the dominican?
"Any political commentator who would use a personal attack like calling someone "a druggie" certainly doesn't have any place on cable news."
Calling people names like "feminazi' is just fine, though, right?
Good point. Humm, lets see. . .
"Femanazi, Defeatocrats, Slick Willie, HillaryCare, Drive by Media, Obama-Usama-Obama, Algore, Wacko's, The Left Coast, Dick Turbin, Fake Soldiers, ElDiablo (for Tom Daschle), John the BreckGirl Edwards, Senator Betray Us (for Chuck Hagel long before the Move On ad), and Dirty Harry Reid, to name just a few.
I have to agree with RINO on this one. A person who calls names as such, shouldn't be on the air.
Limbaugh; "...anytime an organization has the word "peace" in it, throw it out. It's just a bunch of long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking, FM peace-types that have an agenda."
Colmes wouldn't have to say anything about Rush's drug past, because it's not relevant here (although it IS damn funny!). Furthermore, Bacci40 never said that he should (Bacci40 just called Rush "druggo" for what I imagine is his own amusement).
What Bacci40 DID say is that Colmes should not have allowed Rush to LIE. That's not being "disrespectful," "impolite," or making "personal" attacks, that's requiring that information presented on one's show as factual must, in fact, BE factual.
The "attack" (if it indeed merits that word; I think not) would not be based on "personal" matters, but on substantive issues which are being discussed. If you can't challenge untrue information, you could never debate.
It's too bad the kid had a tragic accident but he rose above it. But his parents should be ashamed to send him in front of a national audience to tell the world how his parents wouldn't buy him health insurance when they could easily afford it and instead took free insurance on the backs of taxpayers many who are less fortunate than they are.
LH, you need to get your facts somewhere besides the Freeper site. The parent could not afford the insurance. The lies told by you and the other rightys aren't going to be bought here. Sell your pile of crap somewhere else, you're stinking up the joint.
So are you a liar or do you just not know what you're talking about?
The fact that Rush is going outside the cozy confines of his studio speaks volumes. Rush NEVER does this. How often has he consented to an interview outside his own set parameters. Granted, Fox news is as close to home as he can be, but still, the weasel NEVER opens himself up to honest debate. Old Rush and his syndicators must be worried or he wouldn't be interrupting his evening oxy high.
The reich wing republican national anthem!
Doucheland, Doucheland ünder verers,
Ünder verers in der Raw,
Wenn es Timz zu Schutz und Putze
Rüsh es mein bendoverbüddy,
Hess pimply Maas bis an vey ous,
Serving fer Etsch Viet-nam!-
Deutschland, Deutschland ünder verers,
Über panties smell like Smelt.|
Thanks for the laugh, Snoopy. That was hilarious! Good boy, petting and rubbing belly vigorously. Kissing on the nose.
Typical lib cop-out.
Typical con pout.
Typical con pout.
Yes Mary but note that the comment is also completely fact free and dissociated from reality. At least the cons are completely consistent in that respect.
Watching the dittoheads twist themselves into logistical pretzels trying to defend limbaugh is...is... I'm trying to find the word......... well, they are dittoheads, and proud of it...... What's the word? Hep me out here folks.
The term is Borderline Personality Disorder.
Limbaugh is obviously running on three cylinders...okay two.
How can an apparent lucid adult on one hand claim that he was not mocking a 12 year old and within two seconds...mock the twelve year old?
He disrepects those who have served and then claims just the opposite.
Something is wrong with the little feller...but what? Is there a Dr. in the house?
And Limbaugh's dittohead followers all nod in agreement with him like an army of bobblehead dolls with creepy wide-eyed smiles painted on their shiny faces.
I would also diagnose Narcisstic personality disorder on the part of the likes of Limbbo, Cooutler, etc. They just love themselves.
Old Sigmund might say his big cigar represents some kind of oral fixation
i cant believe the bastard managed to buy his way out... i was sure that he was going to end up like Imus.... lol, at least he didnt get off easy, 2 mill is gonna hurt his pocket...hahaha
i have to give it to Limbaugh.. he played it pretty smart, he immediately got on tv practically crying out "im innocent".. only people on MMFA know the truth.. it hard to deny it when its on tape..
You'd have to be drunker than Randi Rhodes on a Sunday afternoon to believe that this post actually demonstrates that Rush attacked the Frost kid.
An interesting comprehension problem here. Very strange, stranger....we've got to give the devil his due...he does convince his ditto-bots that what they're hearing is irrelevant to his "greater context," whatever that means.
plus throwing in another rightie slur. Does Limbaugh give you a free vacation to Mordor for that?
At least that is what Rush TOLD you to believe. You would have to be a complete moron to post your delusions as if they were REAL like you did.
So you came here to let us know you are an ignorant moronic troll that likes to make unfounded accusations and lie a lot. Ok we know you can go back to your bridge now. This thread is not about Randi
The $4.2 million dollars that the Marine scholarship fund received from the auction of the letter and Rush's match are more than 4x what Air America stole from the Boys and Girls Club.
Great point. AAR is such an embarrassment. And now with the Randi Rhodes meltdown, the hypocrisy of the left is exposed yet again.
Rush Limbaugh is the topic here. He fake mimics a 12 year old boy, claims the boy is programmed and claims he's not mocking him. I can see why you don't want to talk about THAT.
Ah no but you have exposed your abject stupidity again. I guess you cant help it. Morons do what morons are told to do.
Not exactly.
Thanks, Dave.
Guess the cons are grasping at straws with fake controversies...like all the Whitewater investigations that after millions of dollars proved that the Clintons made some bad investments.
Dave,
Calling a paid-pack loan a theft seems to bother you. You're clearly an America-hating rationalist.
Err America only paid back the money they stole after threat of jail time for management.
They actually claimed they did not have to re-pay it because someone else was boss when it was stolen.
Rush donates millions of his own money and helps raise tens of millions more.
Err America steals from little poor kids.
Amazing.
Hey Stranger, get your fact straight. Now, provide a link that proves your BS allegation.
It must be a real sore spot for you that AirAmerica is growing, Keith Olberman has nearly caught O'Reilly, and Fox "News" is tanking. Your lying BULLSH*T party is coming to an end, and the USA is all the better for it.
However, please don't shoot yourself until you spend 15 month in Iraq giving a break to one of our heros that these rightwingers tried to get killed. Maybe you can convince Rush to join you.
"Err America"
Cute. Like in "To err is human". Unlike, say, Limbaugh & his sub-human dittohead bots who deliberately and knowingly lie.
You are a liar and a fool. The PREVIOUS owners of Air American borrowed that money. It WAS being paid back and the payments were accelerated when suit was filed on the NEW owners. No money was EVER stolen. You are a liar that doesnt care in the least what is true. You just use delusional lies to derail a thread. You make PONDSCUM look noble.
what does air america and the phony story about the girls and boys club have to do with el druggo and his hatred for children??
Oh look it's time to play the unrelated tangent game.
In that case....
At least the money isn't going to a fake charity set up purely to get around campaign finance laws like Tom Delay's was.
You are a liar and a fool. That LIE has been debunked too many times for me to waste my time doing it again. Then again you hiveminders may not have heard since you dont know ANYTHING until Rush tells you. Your ignorance and stupidity are without any substance or decency. You dont have the brains to tie your shoes. You are incredibly ignnorant and brainwashed.
The Strange
Air America stole 16.8 mill from the Boys and Girls Club? Thats pretty provocative. I feel we're out the loop on this one. Some details would be nice. Or continue to spew. Freedom of choice you know.
"The S-Chip program is trying to be greatly expanded!!!" That's my paraphrase of the point Limbaugh was making with these kids. These kids got the health care they needed when they needed it. As S-CHIP currently stands, these kids and no other children (citizen, resident alien or illegal alien) are denied ER health care. The kid's statements are an outright lie. The President has said multiple times that he supports this program but not an expansion of it.
Having been the survivor of a similar auto accident pre-S-CHIP, I understand the sacrifices my parents made when we had to "Eat beans and taters one night, taters and beans the next" because we had to sell everything we owned and pay installments for several years for the care My mother and I got. BTW, My sister died in our auto accident. Bad things happen to good people, but that's Life, and we usually are made stronger for it.
Thanks to government assistance programs (read wealth redistribution) we already have two generations of adults who are increasingly more irresponsible toward their children's needs. My parents did not qualify for these programs back in the day. I, in turn, was motivated to be better than my parents and to try to save money so that my kids have the opportunity for a better childhood than I had.
Folks don't understand that if you make parents more responsible for their children's well-being that perhaps the quality of life for children will get better. Besides, why pay 30 bureaucrats and waste the time of federal officials (who should be more concerned about securing our borders) to do the job of 5 private insurance employees plus Mom And Dad?
He disrepects those who have served and then claims just the opposite.
Actually, he disrespected those who had claimed to have served, but did not and then later made up lies about atrocities they and others had committed.
Lying libs and the corrupt MSM claimed the opposite.
They lie. It's what they do. It's all they have.
An analogy would be criticizing someone for calling Randi Rhodes a "phony victim of mugging".
She lied about it. It's what she does. It's all she has.
Aha, I've figured this out. You're in love with Randi.
Anyway, to the topic at hand. Limbaugh lies right in front of you righties, and you don't notice. This is disconnection to an extreme.
Perhaps you are overdue for a complete radio fast. Suggested prescription: bout 90 days without rightie talkers to help clear the brain cells. Good luck.
That's what Rush told you dittohead-bots and sure as clockwork here they are dutifully repeating it almost verbatim
People who think for themselves in the real world and who don't *heart* Rush Limbaugh can see plainly that Limbaugh has been backtracking, backpedaling, re-editing and furiously trying to spin his way out of his "phoney soldiers" quip. But outside of the parroting dittohead community, people just aren't that stupid.
Randee had some concerned fans,period.
You should to try calling her, unlike Rush opposing veiws are welcome on her show. I've heard a few. Can't say they held their end of the conversation up well. You should show us how its done. We can run a pol to guess how many slices she'll make in any point(?) you care to bring forward.
Joe Elliot hyped up the mugging that never happened in an inexcusable bit of hype with no facts.
Rhodes and Air America never claimed there was a mugging, in fact both issued statements to dispel the out of control rumor.
But hey, don't let something simple like facts get in the way of your lying douchebaggery.
Rhodes and Air America never claimed there was a mugging, in fact both issued statements to dispel the out of control rumor.
But hey, don't let something simple like facts get in the way of your lying douchebaggery
Well, gosh darn it all, you got me...except for the teeny-weeny little fact that there is audio of the alcoholic huckster admitting on her show that she had sent an email to her boss saying that she had been mugged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGdR3iEGSMQ
I know...I know...I'm just picking nits.
None of that contradicts what I said. Nor does it contradict that both Air America and Rhodes issued press statements denying the mugging story on Tuesday. Keep on picking those nits though.
To get back on topic though, why does Rush have so much scorn for anti-war veterans and sick children while he has plenty of nice things to say about a political party filled with pedophiles and men who troll public restrooms and whorehouses for sex? Is it a birds of a feather thing? Maybe that explains why you want to change the topic.
None of that contradicts what I said.
...except for the teeny-weeny little fact that it absolutely contradicts what you said..
...both Randi Rhodes herseld and Jon Elliot both said she was mugged .
You said no one at Err America said she was mugged. If my arithmetic is correct, I do believe one plus one equals two...two people from Err America who claimed she was mugged
No one told the public she was mugged you freaking psycho liar.
No one told the public she was mugged you freaking psycho liar.
No one, except a host on Err America..
...well you actually may have a point on this after all. It is true that almost nobody listens to err America.
MY GOD! You are just an outright damned liar! She didn't say that at all. You bunch of ass wipes are simply unbelievable!
MY GOD! You are just an outright damned liar! She didn't say that at all. You bunch of ass wipes are simply unbelievable
Do you mean that the audio of her saying on the air at Err America where she said she sent the email to her boss saying she was mugged was faked?
Those magnificent bastards!
She never made a statement saying she was mugged. Idiot!
You are ignorant beyond belief. Stupider than Brass bubblegum. You show less higher brain function than a houseplant. You are also a TROLL. Attempting desperatly to change the subject. Look over there. Go back to your bridge troll
No he didnt we went all over this. You are a liar and a moron. Too stupid to understand that reality is whatever Rush TOLD you today. You dont even KNOW what you think until Rush tells you what it is. Moron.
"Lying libs and the corrupt MSM claimed the opposite." Stranger
I hate to stir the Incoherent Pot, but, claimed the opposite of what?
We all know what Rush did since we dont have to listen to the Oxymoron to tell us what WE believe. You are a liar, a fool and a troll. Your bridge is calling
Aha, I've figured this out. You're in love with Randi.
No. I do wish her a complete and speedy recovery, though.
Unfortunately, mental health issues can be very difficult to treat, so I think she has a long, bumpy road ahead.
Her alcoholism will only complicate things.
You love her. Your dittohead-ism will only complicate things, however....
The stranger's in love with sweet Randi
He wishes her flowers and candy
Though insulting he seems
She's there in his dreams
Making this dittobot randy
Mary, he wishes he could quit her.
He's got it bad, jj. Unrequited love is worser than a polinidal cyst.
"I do wish [Rhodes] a complete and speedy recovery, though."
The decency of the dittohead. He does sincerely wish the "alcoholic", "mentally ill" "lying" Rhodes a very quick get-well.
Brings to mind that day I heard Limbaugh air one of his sophomoric Bill Clinton parodies on the very afternoon Clinton's mother passed away.
Class.
My god, you people really ARE this stooopit, aren't you? Unfreakin'real. You sit here and spout rushbo LIES and disinformation, while accusing someone else (NOT THE TOPIC, of course) of what your hero is KNOWN to be guilty of, in a LAME attempt to again, like always, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
WHO IS THE DRUG ADDICT, AGAIN? WHO was the guy busted having his maid buy hillbilly heroin again? YOUR HERO RUSH, that's who. And oh yeah, you're defending vermin that ATTACKED A 12 YEAR OLD, and called soldiers that don't support your war "phony".
Sorry you don't LIKE that he did that, but HE DID. Those are the FACTS, should you choose to enter the real world and acknowledge reality, vs the FUX alternate version of it.
The ONLY people that think that fatboy DIDN'T attack this kid, or call soldiers phony are YOU RUSHBOTS, simply because HE TOLD YOU SO. Unthinking robots that repeat whatever they are told- how PROUD you must be.
Don't you morons recall him saying when you people lost in 2006 that he "wouldn't have to carry water for people that didn't deserve it any more"? Didn't you figure out what that MEANT???
It meant "I've been LYING! TO YOU, ABOUT PEOPLE THAT 'DON'T DESERVE IT'!" Carrying water = LYING. Hellllllooooo?
DUH! I mean, DUH! But, then again, you people really don't have ANY critical thinking skills on your own, do you? No, you MUST have someone like rushbo to TELL you what to think.
Randi lies? And Rushbo is truthful? Tell me, what color is the sky on your planet? Is it always sunny there? Of course, there's only ONE channel- FUXLies.
You people are amazing ignorant- dangerously ignorant, in fact.
Amazing, the level of absurdity and pure INSANITY that you people show in each and every post, defending the indefensible with pure untruth and lies, simply because a KID said something you didn't like, and your HERO attacked him for it. THAT'S the kind of scum you're defending. Lie with the dogs....
Breathtaking, the hypocrisy and foolish ignorance you spew- you people are *exactly* the reason this country is where it is. You people NEVER HESITATE to use ANYTHING that will advance your corrupt agenda- kids, soldiers, fake turkeys, "Miss'n Accomp'lishd" banners and entire aircraft carriers, or otherwise, NEVER. More of this faux outrage by you 'thugs makes thinking people want to puke.
Unthinking, unquestioning ROBOTS that apparently cannot think or read a freakin' transcript for yourselves. "Rush SAID he wasn't making fun of the soldiers/children/minorities/whatever, so it MUST be so! Yep. Look, here's the (DOCTORED) transcript to "prove it"! Derrrrr! It's that durn lib'rul media a'gin!"
Unthinking zealots that NEVER BOTHER to check on your heroes, in ANY way. You take whatever they say, at face value, as the unvarnished, gospel truth.
See what home schooling gets us?
Come on, Citizen, don't sugar coat it. Tell us what you really think.
"pure untruth?" I don't know about that one. Second the motion on everything else though.
Go away you ignorant TROLL. Rhodes is not the topic. Your stupidity is so horrific it might be a communicable disease.
The Stranger replied to an allegation about his affection for Randi Rhodes; "Unfortunately, mental health issues can be very difficult to treat, so I think she has a long, bumpy road ahead. Her alcoholism will only complicate things."
If she in fact has an alcohol problem, I would certainly agree--It will be a bumpy road for her to deal with your difficult to treat mental health issues.
Leftist protestors beat a teen age girl store clerk with bricks today in Georgetown.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6978
I will not be at all surprised if the left wing media blames it on conservatives.
You have only been posting here a short time, yet already I can tell that you're a very sick and dillusioned individual.
You wrote: "Leftist protestors beat a teen age girl store clerk with bricks today in Georgetown.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6978
I will not be at all surprised if the left wing media blames it on conservatives."
So I went to your link, and no where did they write or say that it was a "Left Wing" attack. They also didn't say that she was a store clerk, but they did say she was standing in the doorway of the store they pictured. I have no idea if it was Left or Right that attacked her. I don't yet know that it was an actual attack on her, or if it was an unfortunate accident.
In fact, since it was a Fox "New" report, there's no way of knowing what the truth is. We won't know until a legitamate news orginization reports about the incident.
My question to you: Are there some FACTS that led you to the conclusion that this was a left wing attack, or did Limbaugh tell you it was?
I don't yet know that it was an actual attack on her, or if it was an unfortunate accident.
Yeah, the brick attacked her of its own volition.
Are you an actual moron or are you just playing one for comedy purposes?
It should be obvious to anyone that the question of wehther or not that particular woman being hit by the brick is a question over whether or not it was thrown at her intentionally or not.
More importantly, none of the news reports on this violence say anything even close to "woman beat by leftist protesters," which is the completely false story you were trying to distract this thread with.
More importantly, none of the news reports on this violence say anything even close to "woman beat by leftist protesters
The MSM didn't report anything negative about a left wing protest??
I'm shocked...shocked I yell you
Rabid rightwinger refusing to see facts contrary to his worldview? Shocked I tell you.
I found multiple acounts of this event quite easily. No liberal conspiracy trying to blackout the story, just none reporting it in the sensationalized and completely false way you did.
I found multiple acounts of this event quite easily. No liberal conspiracy trying to blackout the story, just none reporting it in the sensationalized and completely false way you did
Let's see...a group of thugs "protesting" the IMF...and they're not left wing?
You'd have to be drunker than Randi Rhodes on a typical Sunday afternoon to think they were anything other.
A teen age girl has her face beaten to a pulp with bricks...but it was an accident?
You're approaching Ted Kenndy drunk with that one, Skippy.
"Let's see...a group of thugs "protesting" the IMF...and they're not left wing?"--Stranger
Thugs, why say this? No one said they weren't left wing, but, if there's violence involved, it stand to reason it was more likely a right winger throwing a brick at a protester, and missing. After all, Right wingers are well known to have poor aim when throwing bricks at the good guys.
"A teen age girl has her face beaten to a pulp with bricks...but it was an accident?"--The [dishonest] Stranger
You got all that from the video you linked? Teenage?!? Girl--yes. Face beaten to a pulp?!? BrickS ?!? You are one exaggerating ass wipe at best.
Yes, a brick hit her in the forehead, and it was terrible that it happened, and I certainly hope she heals fully and quickly. But she wasn't beaten, and we don't know if bricks [plural] were thrown, and her face wasn't beaten to a pulp.
On a minor point, although she may be a teenager the report didn't say that, but what the hell, you just make things up as you go along anyway. Perhaps she suffered brain damage and started voting Republican.
we're figuring out your problems, stranger...you are a stranger in a strange land...but unlike the Biblical reference, you are a stranger to reality. Perhaps you were hit with a brick once, and instead of staying on topic, you tend to bounce from one subject to another. Here's the opening paragraph of this topic:
Summary: Discussing Graeme Frost and his family on Hannity & Colmes, Rush Limbaugh claimed, "I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old -- a 12-year-old they send out before microphones and cameras to sit there and say," and mimicking Graeme's voice, continued, " 'I only want health care for the rest of American children like I got, and George Bush is against it.' The 12-year-old can't write that garbage!"You'd have to be higher than Rush Limbaugh on sex holiday to think that smear of Randi carries any credibility.
Stranger, you're coming close to winning the coveted 'Most Dishonest Poster of the Year' award. I've gone to the two links that you pasted here, and neither said what you wrote about it.
Go join the military, they'll work to turn you into a respectable unit. Meanwhile, you can defend our Constitution, and fight for our freedom of speech, which will allow you to continue with your lies into your latter years.
Of course you are since you dont know ANYTHING except what the hivemind tells you. You are a liar and a fool
You are a liar a fool and a troll. Go back to your bridge
Got any more lies to tell in an attempt to change the subject you BONE IGNORANT TROLL?
You are a liar and a fool. Lying again, what were the chances.
Are there some FACTS that led you to the conclusion that this was a left wing attack,
Well, I certainly don't reckon it was the DC chapter of the Young Americans for Freedom running rampant through the streets of Georgetown attacking people and destroying property in an ostensible "protest" of the IMF, do you.
You know as well as I that it is the usual group of "anarchists" who still sponge off Mommy and Daddy. yet are projecting their hatred for their parents by acting out against anything in authority.
"Well, I certainly don't reckon it was the DC chapter of the Young Americans for Freedom running rampant through the streets of Georgetown attacking people and destroying property in an ostensible "protest" of the IMF, do you."-The [lying] Stranger
Sounds more reasonable than the load of sh*t you're trying to pile on us.
"You know as well as I that it is the usual group of "anarchists" who still sponge off Mommy and Daddy. yet are projecting their hatred for their parents by acting out against anything in authority."--The [lying] Stranger
Yup. Those damned Limbaugh listening kids nowadays. They just want to go out and throw bricks at Liberals. But they keep missing, and hit innocent bystanders. Now that I think about it, this is much the same as how we ended up in Iraq.
"Well, I certainly don't reckon..."
A real stickler for accuracy, this one.
What ever happened to Rush's "victim infalibility" theory?
This would have been the perfect opportunity to remind viewers and listeners alike of VICTIM INFALIBILITY. Come on Stranger, LH ,Old Marine you remember, according to Rush victim infalibility was the trump card of the left; that he and every other conservative were supposed to be rendered mute when the left brought out a "victim" in support of say, stem cell research (Michael J Fox ring a bell for you). Victim infalibility, victim infalibility, victim infalibility it was such a popular phrase, Laura Ingram picked it up and ran with it, Sean Hannity, John Grambling, etc. "VICTIM INFALIBILITY" dittoheads, what HAPPENED TO IT I want to KNOW?
Well I'll tell you what happened to it, a caller wasted "el Rusho" when they asked the MAN with the EIB "gold microphone" the following question. Wait for it... what was the difference when he claimed every other country that opposed attacking Iraq just could not understand beacuse they didn't experiece 9/11.
(Stipulation of fact: Iraq had nothing to do with the terror attacks of 9/11/01)
And vioula, "victim infalibility" was vanquished into the right wing lexicon wasteland. Only we did attack IRAQ and thousands have died, children have become orphans, wives have become widows and Rush Limbaugh laughs all the way to the bank.
While this was certainly a lively string, I love the guy/gal who really laid into the the repugnuts, it's too late and I'm too tired to keep going. But I'll be back, because I got kids dammit and I'll be damned if you crazies out there are going to ruin this county for them. Victim Infalibility, HUH!
Got Kids and a few other new ones I've seen today, welcome aboard.
Mental Strangulation your excepted, unless you become funnier, or actually carry on an argument. Its like The Python said automatic refutation is not an argument.
Rush is right...Again. The Democrats used this family for their own gain. They wanted to create momentum for their whole Socialized Healthcare agenda. They want our free country to become a communist country where the government controls every aspect of our lives. I'm poor but i dont want the rich to have to pay more taxes to support those who didnt take advantage of the oppurtunities presented to them in this country. God save us from Communistesque Liberals. Stop the Hillary Express!!
Nothing throws Haters like Limbaugh and Coulter into a tizzy and frustrates them more than somebody like Graeme Frost. Frost makes their jobs (the job of ridicule and mockery) -a lot more difficult.
Limbaugh & Co. do recognize that there are some limits to their hate, and they know exactly where the lines are. And they know when they have to spin and backpedal (see "Phony Soldiers", elsewhere).
But ---that doesn't stop them. They keep lowering the bar just a little bit each time.
It's women. It's people of color. Then veterans. Then decorated veterans. Marines. Paraplegic vets. Mothers of dead soldiers. Soldiers exercising free speech. 9/11 widows. The latest is not even a kid, but a kid who's an accident victim kid with a permanent condition at that.
They mock. They ridicule. They harass. The lie and distort.
Nothing's off-limits to them. Sure, they do it gingerly and have to do a lot of spin and CYA afterwards. But they still do it. And have no shame, no qualms, no conscience, and no decency about it.
AWESOME JOB, RUSH!
What I find interesting is that liberals are perfectly willing to argue against a situation where they think they MIGHT be able to flamboozle people but choose to distract in those cases where they're clearly exposed.
And what's so telling about this particular outcry against Rush is that they are focusing on it AS IF they have never exploited families or the poor before in the fashion Rush details.
Liberals have been pulling out the race card, and the victim mentality card, and the poor-me, pity-me card ever since they realized that without a "downtrodden" people somewhere in the world, there'd be no need for the pseudo-caregiving the enabling liberal Democrats think they provide.
So mocking a 12-year-old is OK with you as long as you can rationalize it as an attack on them garsh-darn evil libruls, huh?