Clinton criticized over relinquishment of Socks, but reports ignore Romney dog-roofing
SUMMARY: Several media outlets seized on an article in The Atlantic that mentioned that former President Bill and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton gave their family cat, Socks, to Betty Currie -- with one outlet questioning whether Currie's adoption of Socks reveals Hillary Clinton to be "cold and calculating." But these media outlets made no mention of Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's reported treatment of his own family pet, Seamus, an Irish setter, whom Romney reportedly placed "in a dog carrier" that was "attached ... to the station wagon's roof rack" during the Romney family's "annual 12-hour family trek from Boston to Ontario."
Discussing the fact that upon leaving the White House in 2001, former President Bill and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) gave their family cat, Socks, to Betty Currie, who was then Bill Clinton's personal secretary, Fox & Friends co-anchor Brian Kilmeade claimed, "[N]ow all of a sudden you find out she dumped her cat and you wonder, 'Is anybody safe?' " Kilmeade was discussing an article in London's Sunday Times that asked whether giving Socks to Currie proved Hillary Clinton "too cold and calculating to win the presidency."
Socks' adoption by Currie is not something the media or the public is learning "all of a sudden," as Kilmeade asserted. On December 27, 2000, the New York Daily News reported: "The Clintons' cat, Socks, meanwhile, apparently has won the affection of the President's trusted secretary, Betty Currie, who has asked to adopt the cat, a source said." The Philadelphia Inquirer further reported on January 21, 2001: " 'Socks is off to Mrs. Currie's house,' said a Clinton aide who insisted on anonymity. 'She loves the cat. She wants the cat.' ... Socks came to the White House from Arkansas with the Clinton family in 1993 as Chelsea's pet. Chelsea is now a student at Stanford University."
The story recently garnered media attention after Caitlin Flanagan wrote (subscription required) in the November 2007 issue of The Atlantic: "In the annals of human evil, off-loading a pet is nowhere near the top of the list. But neither is it dead last, and it is especially galling when said pet had been deployed for years as an all-purpose character reference."
An October 21 article in London's Sunday Times titled, "Ouch! Hillary Clinton's softer image is clawed over dumped cat," quoted the Atlantic article and added: "Some believe the abandoned pet could now come between Hillary Clinton and her ambition to return to the White House as America's first woman president." The Sunday Times article also asserted: "Clinton's treatment of Socks cuts to the heart of the questions about her candidacy. Is she too cold and calculating to win the presidency? Or does it signify political invincibility by showing she is willing to deploy every weapon to get what she wants?"
The Drudge Report, the website of Internet gossip Matt Drudge, linked to the Sunday Times article with a caption that read, "Hillary's softer image is clawed over dumped cat ..." at 12:14 p.m. GMT on October 21. And a reprint of the Times article with the headline "Report: Dumped Cat Could Come Back to Haunt Hillary Clinton Campaign" appeared on FoxNews.com. Fox News' Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson, and Brian Kilmeade all discussed Socks during the on October 22 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends.
But while finding relevance to Hillary Clinton's presidential bid in her relinquishment of the family cat, the media reporting it did not mention Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's reported treatment of his own family pet. On June 27, The Boston Globe reported that before the Romney family's "annual 12-hour family trek from Boston to Ontario" in 1983, "Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter, in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack." Though noting that Romney "built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog," the article went on to report:
As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust, Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station. There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, then hopped back onto the highway. It was a tiny preview of a trait he would grow famous for in business: emotion-free crisis management.
In a June 27 article that discussed Romney's method for transporting Seamus, Time.com Washington editor Ana Marie Cox wrote:
Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out."
Romney responded to criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) over the alleged incident by saying: "You know, PETA has not been my fan over the years. PETA has been after me for having a rodeo at the Olympics and were very, very upset about that. PETA was after me when I went quail hunting in Georgia. And PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air." Romney also reportedly said about his dog: "He scrambled up there every time we went on trips. ... He got it all by himself and enjoyed it."
From the October 22 edition of Fox News' Fox and Friends:
CARLSON: Speaking of "sucks," now alls we have to do is change the vowel in this, Brian, and we end up with "Socks."
KILMEADE: Yeah, Socks wrote a few books, couple of books -- Hillary Clinton wrote it as well. Socks the Clinton cat authored a children's book with Hillary Clinton and was once a beloved member of the Clinton family. But something changed once they left the White House.
DOOCY: Yeah, absolutely. Socks the cat was regifted to that woman right there, Betty Currie, the former president's personal assistant. Now, the Times of London is suggesting that while Hillary's been trying to soften her image, the fact that she just dumped Socks on the secretary rather than make a home for Socks either in Georgetown, where her house is, or Chappaqua [New York], where the family house is, that, you know, it says a lot to some people who love animals.
KILMEADE: Socks and Buddy [the Clinton's chocolate Labrador] never got along.
CARLSON: Oh poor Buddy. She didn't have to make a decision really about Buddy, because Buddy got run over the minute that he left the White House. Isn't that sad?
DOOCY: Yeah.
CARLSON: He moved out to New York in Chappaqua, he didn't understand traffic patterns --
DOOCY: Well who does?
CARLSON: Yeah and he got hit. But here's what I think -- maybe Hillary should travel with Socks the cat. I think that that would make her very likable. Don't you, to carry around a kitty the whole time?
DOOCY: I don't know. That's kind of tough. How would she do it --
CARLSON: She could travel, she could travel with Socks.
DOOCY: Rent a cat?
CARLSON: Yeah.
KILMEADE: Well the thing is, you have the risk as someone who has been making herself -- embracing the female vote. She's trying to be more of a mom figure over the last two weeks, appearing on The View, talking about how long it takes you to get ready for these stump speeches, saying "Ooh, why all the men picking on me." She looks like such a kind woman for the last two weeks. Now all of a sudden you find out she dumped her cat and you wonder, "Is anybody safe?"
CARLSON: Yeah, but did Bill have anything to do with dumping the cat?
KILMEADE: Huh?
CARLSON: Maybe it's a 50-50 split.
DOOCY: Yeah why didn't the former president take it home to Chappaqua?
CARLSON: He's not doing anything.
HILLARY CLINTON [audio clip]: Let people make their own judgments.
DOOCY: Thank you very much, Senator Clinton.
KILMEADE: You know why? Because Bill never wrote a book with Socks. Socks wrote a book with Hillary.
CARLSON: She penned it?
KILMEADE: She wrote it, but it was basically based on Socks the cat.
DOOCY: Thank you.
CARLSON: All right, more later on about Socks.
DOOCY: I don't know, I think I'm sick of it.
CARLSON: You're sick of it? Sick of Socks?
DOOCY: I'm done with socks.
ALISYN CAMEROTA (news anchor): Socks sucks. I'm just tying in all of our last news stories together.
















You gotta wonder about these people. Adopting out a cat to someone who knows and loves it -- THAT's going to "haunt" Hillary?
Man, they really must not have anything in their ammo pouch. No wonder. They've been investigated the Clintons for decades now. How many rocks are there left to turn over?
Sometimes, there just aren't enough rocks.
Not to mention, both Clintons are constantly travelling, while Betty Currie is no doubt a homebody, able to be with the cat, giving it attention and love.
The KINDEST thing for the cat was to give it to a stable loving home, a home where the woman already knew, loved, and requested to be allowed to take the cat.
The desperation of these Rightwing character assassins continues to plummet to new depths.
I see it as a good sign.
Is this another petty thread?
the comments made were petty. learn the difference.
There is no difference between the comments that were made and MMfA, in this instance. MMfA could've just posted the story and said "In conclusion, those people are stupid and trying to manufacture controversies" instead of "Oh look, Romney is cold and calculating when it comes to pet policies too." Please.
the difference would be it's always seems to be the clintons and democrats under the microscope. wouldn't you agree?
From conservative news and commentary, YES. Let's give them attention so they stick around please (ugh).
no, not just from conservatives.
I actually agree with you.
"There is no difference between the comments that were made and MMfA, in this instance. "
Funny, it's night and day to me. Here's two examples that make it crystal clear...
" Now all of a sudden you find out she dumped her cat and you wonder, 'Is anybody safe?'"
I don't see MMFA citing Romney's treatment of the family dog as evidence that no one will be safe under his leadership, only that he is subject to a double standard by the media.
"[Bill Clinton]'s not doing anything"
Except running a foundation that tirelessly works around the world on humanitarian causes, and having heart surgery.
I don't see MMFA making baseless assertions about how Mitt Romney or his wife spend their time.
They are....they're comparing the phantom moral issue with "socks" to that of Romney's dog...instead of saying " you guys are stupid for saying those things" MMFA posts "Hey Romney does those things too."
Naw, I see it more as "if you're gonna discuss clinton's cat, why aren't you also discussing romney's dog?" Not exactly the romney does it too argument.
Nope, you're still wrong.
MMFA made the clear distinction between giving an animal away to a presumably loving home (not a moral issue) and endangering an animal (a serious moral issue or, perhaps, in the case of Romney, a stupidity issue).
Cold and caluclating? I'd say Romney's treatment of his dog is more like "cruel and unusual."
The initial story (about Socks) is completely silly, sure... But if giving a pet up for adoption is even a news stroy, then strapping a dog to your roof should be a felony.
And I didn't really need another reason to hate this guy.
How would Mitt Romney like it if HE were tied to the roof rack of a station wagon for a trip from Boston to Ontario???
and if we're going to talk about mistreatment. how come the conservatives never discuss saint ronnie and saint nancy's treatment of their and his children. this link discusses maureen reagan's book, where she mentions being sent off [along with michael] to boarding school after the divorce from jane wyman. and how his 1966 gubernatorial campaign tried to pretend she did not exist. not to mention the book that patti davis wrote about her parents, portraying nancy as the ice queen.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4DC153AF935A15750C0A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
and if we're going to talk about mistreatment. how come the conservatives never discuss saint ronnie and saint nancy's treatment of their and his children. this link discusses maureen reagan's book, where she mentions being sent off [along with michael] to boarding school after the divorce from jane wyman. and how his 1966 gubernatorial campaign tried to pretend she did not exist. not to mention the book that patti davis wrote about her parents, portraying nancy as the ice queen.
Al Franken included a very telling anecdote about Ronald Reagan in his book, "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot". It came from Michael Reagan's autobiography. Seems Ronnie was asked to speak at Michael's boarding school graduation. After the cerfemony, Ronnie saw a young man in the hallway. He held out hsi right hand and said, "My name's Ronald Reagan. What's yours?"
And the young man said "I'm your son, Dad"....
To which Ronnie replied, "Sorry, Mike - I didn't recognize you."
Michael Reagan was always disliked by the family-- Nancy could not abide him. When you see how the other two kids turned out, you gotta give her some credit... she must have known something.
Another gratuitous anecdote-- anyone else laugh whenever Hannity asks Micheal Reagan, "how's your mom?" He does it all the time.
you have to wonder what michael did to be so "disliked" to be sent off to boarding school at the age of 5 and maureen at 7. other than not being nancy's kids. or why maureen discovered at the age of 19 that patti, then 7, had never been told that maureen was her sister. ronnie's explanation was "well, we haven't gotten that far". the stories are in the link i provided.
Wow. These trogs will go to any lengths to fabricate a controversy, won't they? Maybe Socks started peeing on everything...cats do that sometimes. Did the Clinton's use Socks as a character reference? I don't remember that. Maybe an "image enhancement"? If they did, so what? President Numbnuts uses his fake ranch the same way.
maybe they thought the cat would have a good stable home with currie, who liked it. the clintons obviously travel quite a bit.
The Clintons kept Buddy the dog and took him to NY with them where he ran out onto the street and got hit and killed.
Hannity says buddy knew too much about Whitewater. Buddy was scheduled for deposition the next day. Yet another mysterious death linked to the Clintons!
; )
Taz has autopsy photos which clearly show a bullet hole in Buddy'd head. The "car" which allegedly hit Buddy has never been found.
now, are you being like limbaugh? you're not saying this happened, but simply that other people are reporting it? leave an out here like rush would.
There you go....taking my comments out of context!
ok, so finding a nice home for Socks, with someone who was stationary (Bill and Hillary travel a lot, and Chelsea went to college) and wanted him makes Hillary mean, but Mitt putting his dog on a roof, travelling 60+mph down the highway isn't worth a mention.
The worst part is that the Mitt story surfaced as a "what a great guy he is" anecdote.
They took the dog (Buddy) to NY so that ends your: they travel argument.
Then the dog ran into the street and got hit by a car and killed.
Great pet owners, give away the kid's cat, let the dog run loose.
they said the cat did not get along with the dog. the cat was older and seems to have bonded with currie.
You're a real piece of work. It could have happened to anyone. Perhaps the Clintons should have given away Buddy as well, because of all of the traveling, but then you guys would hammer them for that as well.
Never let it be said that you guys can't find something to criticize the Clintons about - no matter how trivial it may seem.
"Never let it be said that you guys can't find something to criticize the Clintons about - no matter how trivial it may seem."- open_mind
From the same people who made up Bush Derangement Syndrome, there's no winning. Bill gets some pussy out of the White House, Bill gets some pussy in the White House, same result.
Wait a minute! Romney was mistreatin' a dog named Seumas? Where's me freakin' shillelagh?
The dog ran out means the clinton's were bad dog owners? Newsflash, genius, dogs sometimes do that. Especially if they hear another dog or see a cat...
But if you're concerned about animal abuse, may I suggest looking into who it is that has sex with goats, sheep, cows and horses...
But if you're concerned about animal abuse, may I suggest looking into who it is that has sex with goats, sheep, cows and horses...
Mitt Romney?
:-)
They took the dog (Buddy) to NY so that ends your: they travel argument. Then the dog ran into the street and got hit by a car and killed.Great pet owners, give away the kid's cat, let the dog run loose. Taz
Is there ANY level that you will not stoop to in your hatred of any and all things Clinton?
Bill has been accused of raping that nut Juanita, having an child with a black prostitute and both he and Hillary have been accused of killing Vince Foster and ALL he really did was get a 'bj'.
Junior who you can find no fault with, has failed to go after the people responsible for 9/11, invaded another country causing extreme unrest in the already volatile Middle East, create a deficit that your grand children's grandchildren will be paying for, left many parts of our country unsecured even after 9/11 and you are now accusing the Clintons of animal abuse?
You need therapy, long term therapy cause fixating on the Clinton's has twisted your already twisted mind.
And Pearlene, in the framework of abuse, but of an especially significant kind, it may be worth a mention of Junior's "heck of a job" and all that surrounds that.
Darkmass, that definitely should have been on my list.
The MSM has turned into the National Enquirer.
Insert Bill Frist comment here.
Worst controversy, EVER. Thank you MMfA for stooping to their level.
Pointing out uneven handling and how low the neo-cons will go to try to promote controversy is hardly stooping to their level.
Giving your old cat to a family friend who loves it (6 years ago) is called "DUMPING A PET". And this qualifies as political commentary? These folks are WAAAY overpaid.
Fox and Friends is Murdoch's and Ailes's version of the Three Stooges.
If that's the case, it's an insult to the Stooges.
Curly or Shemp?
And on Curly Howard's birthday, too. Doubly worse.
Except The 3 Stooges were deliberately being idiots. And they didn't try to affect elections, as far as I know.
But the stooges did play plumbers once; they screwed up all the pipes in the basement of a snotty society lady's house.
I think that Nixon's plumbers must have watched this before the Watergate burglary...
Why is this even a topic of conversation? And we wonder why the rest of the world thinks we're dumb...
Some of you must not have ever watched Fox & Friends otherwise you would understand their tongue in cheek remarks. Personally if I were Socks I would much prefer Ms. Currie to either of the Clintons. It would not surprise me, now that the subject has been brought up, that in the near future we will see Hillary with a pet of some sort. I wonder if she will pick one that will fit her personality. Guess that would have to be the chameleon which just like Hillary changes depending upon the situation it finds itself in. She & Bill could have a matching set.
I've spent a few minutes watching "fox & friends" and it's not a pretty sight.
You Know the phrase "hiding your Light under a bushel?" This crew would need a post hole digger to find theirs.
Yet another case of Right Wing short/selective memory.
When Bush was first elected, he gave away his cat, Ernie, to a family friend, presumably out of concern that Ernie would damage White House furnishings. (Does the President have to live in the White House?) So much for Bush's supposed "loyalty."
Another MANIACISM: Making A Non Issue A Campaign Issue for Simple Minds.
How OLD is Socks now? I think Socks deserves a quiet, retired life OUT of the spotlight, after a life of service.
Let me see if I have this correct here. Give away cat to loving home. BAAAAAD!!! Put dog in carrier on top of car on 1200 mile trip and he poops down the back of the car and daddy has to hose them off. GOOOOOOD. Dang you repubs have some warped sense of values there. I've had to give away pets before does that make me "cold and calculating" like HRC? No it just makes me one person who could not take some very loved cats with me when I had to move.