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Hannity dismissed Fox text-message polls as "just a lot of fun" when results favored Paul, but not when results favored Bush

October 22, 2007 5:26 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Noting that a Fox News text-message poll following the October 21 Republican presidential debate put Ron Paul in first place, Sean Hannity said, "Oh, this poll -- you've got all your supporters calling." Paul responded: "What, you mean your own poll isn't any good?" Hannity then said: "No, it's just a lot of fun." But Hannity has previously touted the results of the same type of text-message poll when those results were favorable for President Bush: In January, Hannity noted several times that "85 percent" of viewers who voted by text message said that Bush did an "excellent" job in his State of the Union address.

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On the October 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, following the Republican presidential debate sponsored by Fox News, co-host Alan Colmes began an interview with Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul by asking: "You keep leading us in text voting. What do you think is going on there?" Colmes was referring to a Fox News feature allowing viewers to vote via text message for the candidate who they thought won the debate. At the time of the interview, Paul was in first place with 34 percent. Later in the interview, co-host Sean Hannity asked Paul if he could support several of the other GOP candidates -- including former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Sen. Fred Thompson (TN), or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney -- if he himself didn't win the nomination. Paul replied: "Well, you know, I think they're softening their tone. They're not nearly as militant as they were a few months ago." Paul then said, "[T]hey have to listen to these polls, don't they?" to which Hannity replied: "Oh, this poll -- you've got all your supporters calling." Paul responded: "What, you mean your own poll isn't any good?" Hannity then said: "No, it's just a lot of fun."

In contrast to his dismissal of the October 21 poll results as "just a lot of fun," Hannity has previously touted the results of the same type of text-message poll when those results were favorable for President Bush. Indeed, on the January 23 edition of Hannity & Colmes -- the first time the text-message voting feature was used on the show -- Hannity noted several times during the broadcast that "85 percent" of viewers who voted by text message said that Bush did an "excellent" job in his State of the Union Address earlier that evening. During the show, Hannity said: "Finally, the response from you tonight at the voting, 85 percent think the president did an excellent job. Four percent think the president did an average job. Ten percent think the president did a poor job. Tens of thousands of you voted. By the way, we want to thank you for the tremendous participation." Hannity added: "You know what's nice about this, though? It gives people, the viewers the opportunity. Because we hear from the pundits, we hear from the politicians, we hear from the senators."

Hannity has also previously downplayed the results of text-message polls when those results were favorable for Paul. Specifically, on the September 5 edition of the show, following a Fox News-sponsored Republican presidential debate in Durham, New Hampshire, Hannity noted that Paul came in first place among text-message voters, adding: "He is having all those 3 percent of his people call in, I'm sure." When Colmes responded: "Maybe he just did very well," Hannity stated: "He got 33 percent. Well, it happens." Hannity proceeded to note how well the other candidates had done in the poll. Additionally, on the September 6 edition of the show, after noting that viewers picked Paul as the "winner" of the debate via text-message voting the night before, Hannity asserted: "Some New Hampshire voters from our focus group felt differently. And here to tell us about the surprising feedback from the focus group is political pollster Frank Luntz." Luntz went on to talk about his focus group findings.

At the conclusion of the October 21 broadcast, Paul was still in the lead with 34 percent. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was second with 27 of the votes, Giuliani third with 11 percent, Romney fourth with 10 percent, Thompson fifth with 9 percent, McCain sixth with 5 percent, and Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) seventh with 1 percent.

From the January 23 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: That was President Bush tonight delivering the State of the Union address. The text voting results are coming in, and here's how it's looking right now. Eighty-five percent of you voting say the president did an excellent job tonight, 5 percent said he did an average job, and 10 percent say he did a poor job. And by the way, you can continue to vote throughout the hour by texting "A" for excellent, "B" for average, "C" for poor, and the text number, 55333, and you'll see the results change right there on your screen in real time throughout the hour tonight.

And for more reaction, we're now joined by South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham is back with us. Senator, welcome aboard.

[...]

HANNITY: Welcome back to a special edition of Hannity & Colmes, and we want to hear from you, the viewer, about how you think the president did. From your phone, you can send a text message, the number 55333. You send the letter A if you thought the president did an excellent job, send the letter "B" if you thought he did an average job, and you can give the president a "C" if you think he did a poor job. And you can do it from any wireless carrier, any regular phone, and the charges apply, of course. Now, the results are coming in. You can see them right there at the bottom of your screen with overwhelming support for the president tonight. But keep the votes coming until the end of the show.

And here with their take on the president's speech, Republican strategist Karen Hanretty and Democratic strategist, Fox News contributor, Bob Beckel.

[...]

HANNITY: And finally tonight, the response to tonight's text voting has been overwhelming. Let's give you the final results. Eighty-five percent think that the president did an excellent job, 4 percent think the president did an average job, 10 percent think the president did a poor job. Tens of thousands of you voted -- and by the way, we want to thank you for the tremendous participation.

COLMES: A lot of people did not get the quarters I sent them. I don't know what happened.

HANNITY: You know what's nice about this, though, is that, you know, it gives people, viewers, an opportunity --

COLMES: Right. Absolutely.

HANNITY: -- because we hear from the pundits, we hear from the politicians, we hear from the senators.

From the September 5 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: All right, it's time now for the final results from our text-messaging poll. And in first place tonight, Ron Paul. He's having all those 3 percent of people call in, I'm sure. He got 33 --

COLMES: Maybe he just did very well.

HANNITY: He got 33 percent. Well, it happens. Anyway, in second place tonight, Mike Huckabee getting 18 percent, and taking the third spot is Rudy Giuliani getting 15 percent. Now, I want to give you a quick -- oh, by the way, fourth place is John McCain with 14 percent and Mitt Romney with 12 percent tonight. And taking the sixth spot, Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter both with 2 percent tonight.

Now, I want to give you a special programming note. As you know, Senator Fred Thompson announcing that he will be entering this race and we will have a special interview right here, Hannity & Colmes, our regular time, 9 Eastern, with Senator Thompson. And we will probably ask him some of the questions that were asked of the other candidates tonight. You know one thing that's emerging here -- and I know you love the Democrats -- there are distinct differences on Iraq, on immigration, securing the borders, on taxes, on health care, on education. There is going to be a very interesting --

COLMES: Yes, this will be a good debate.

From the September 6 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

[begin video clip]

CHRIS WALLACE (Fox News host): You're basically saying that we should take our marching orders from Al Qaeda? If they want us off the Arabian Peninsula, we should leave?

PAUL: No! I'm saying -- I'm saying we should take our marching orders from our Constitution. We should not go to war -- we should not go to war without a declaration. We should not go to war when it's an aggressive war. This is an aggressive invasion.

We committed the invasion of this war, and it's illegal under international law. That's where I take my marching orders, not from any enemy. We dug a hole for ourselves, and we dug a hole for our party. We're losing elections, and we're going down next year if we don't change it. And it has all to do with foreign policy and we have to wake up to this fact.

[end video clip]

HANNITY: He sounds like the Democrats. That was Congressman Ron Paul, the presidential candidate who text voters picked as the winner of last night's debate. But some New Hampshire voters from our focus group felt differently. And here to tell us about the surprising feedback from the focus group is political pollster Frank Luntz.

From the October 21 Republican presidential debate post-debate coverage on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

COLMES: We're now joined by Ron Paul. Why do you keep leading us in text voting? What do you think is going on there?

PAUL: Well, I wished I knew. Anyway, the message must be great. The American people are agreeing with this. I think they're just tired of the war, they're tired of big-spending Republicans, and they like their personal liberties, so --

COLMES: Now, in front of the Republican crowd, though, you got a few boos tonight, especially when you said America wants the war over and wants the troops home. That didn't get an applause from the Republicans you need in order to get the nomination.

PAUL: Yeah, I know, but this is a very narrow -- we didn't get a thousand tickets, you know. If I had had two thousand tickets, I could have filled that auditorium. So, you know, you have to look at the audience. The big audience is your listeners out there, and evidently, Fox has a good listening audience. I mean, they're responding very favorably.

COLMES: We do very well in the ratings.

PAUL: Yeah. They're doing very good. I like this audience.

COLMES: But how does an anti-war Republican win the nomination?

[...]

HANNITY: So if you don't win this nomination, you vote libertarian?

PAUL: Well, it depends on who's running, on what policy, there may -- who knows? There's talk of a third party --

HANNITY: Could you support Rudy? Fred? Mitt?

PAUL: Well, you know, I think they're softening their tone. They're not nearly as militant as they were a few months ago.

HANNITY: But you think you've Ron Paul-ized them? Or Hannitized them?

PAUL: Well, they have to listen to these polls, don't they?

HANNITY: Oh, this poll is -- you've got all your supporters calling --

PAUL: What, you mean your own poll isn't any good?

HANNITY: No, it's just a lot of fun.

PAUL: Oh, this is a great audience. This Fox network is just great.

HANNITY: Yeah, when you win it's a great audience. All right, good to see you. Thank you, Congressman, appreciate it.

PAUL: All right.

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    • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 5:29 pm ET)
         

      THANK YOU MMFA! As a Paulie, I've been waiting for this to get covered.  I love how stupid Ron Paul made Hannity look, "you mean your own poll isn't any good?"

      Hannity was fuming.  Hannity also falsely claimed that "just a few people were voting over and over again" (after the first fixed news debate) even though its his own poll and he knows you cant have your vote counted more than once.

       

      See Ron Paul tell Carl Cameron that Fox News isn't Fair or Balance and see Cameron agree with him with a seething look on his face - [link to www.youtube.com]

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      • Author by neondesert (October 22, 2007 7:28 pm ET)
           

        I love how stupid Ron Paul made Hannity look,

        Truly an achievement on par with making the Panamanian Curling team. 

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        • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:30 pm ET)
             

          while that may be true, it is refreshing because you just dont see it very often with all the talking neocon heads on the program and the "phony" liberal "soldiers" that fox puts on to "debate"

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      • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:32 pm ET)
           

        oops the video is at youtube dot com /watch?v=ZPRzlejFx8M

        its pretty funny to see a gop presidential candidate call out faux news

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      • Author by Les is more (October 23, 2007 8:12 am ET)
           

        Hannity's a pansy lightweight, but at least he's not a bloviating blowhard fool like Ed Schultz.

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        • Author by neondesert (October 23, 2007 11:33 am ET)
             

          Les,

          In your short, fog-addled time here, you may have noticed that most of the regular commenters graciously donate their time and efforts to educate the lesser-cognitive who also comment here.  It takes the patience of Job sometimes, but I think most find it worthwhile when the occasional colorless blob behind the keys parroting regurgitated limpaugh drivel begin to show a spark of recognizing the real world.

          In your case, I feel most have abandoned you.  Their patience has been depleted.  Their optimism obliterated.  You have trolled them to the depths of hopelessness, and it is a sad time for all, as they realize that there are still those who exist for whom no education could ignite an ember of cognizance.

          That's where I derive my greatest challenge.

          I don't think you're hopeless.  I think you are still redeemable.  And though the road will be rocky, occasionally washed out, and pretty much consistently uphill, I think you and I can make the journey.  Are ya with me, Les?

          Great.  Let's begin:

          First, we need to make sure that we understand the definitions of the words which we use.  Let's start with "bloviate".  It means to speak pompously.  Now let's look at how you used it.  You supplied a comparitive between Hannity and Schultz, and applied the "bloviating" term to (surprisingly) Schultz.  Now Les, we have to be honest with ourselves, don't we?  Between Schultz and Hannity, which most often shows symptoms of pomposity?  That's right, Les.  I think you know where I'm going with this.  Can you complete the thought?

          Take your time.  These things don't come easy for those who have never exercised those muscles before, and we don't need an injury at this early stage.  I'll be waiting when you're ready to continue...

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      • Author by wzwriter (October 23, 2007 8:36 am ET)
           

        I love how stupid Ron Paul made Hannity look...

        Face it - Homer Simpson could make Sean Hannity look stupid.

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    • Author by nerzog (October 22, 2007 5:41 pm ET)
         

      Ron Paul is starting to embarass the Fascist War-Mongers running the Republican Party; he doesn't conform to their paradigm. It's fun to watch them squirm as one of their own tells the uncomfortable truth about their pet war.

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      • Author by lolo (October 22, 2007 11:20 pm ET)
           

        Ron Paul does make me squirm. In embarrassment for  him and those that believe as he does. A more marginal political player we'd be hard pressed to find.

          Does anyone really believe those text polls that favor Ron Paul? Where's your common sense...? 

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 23, 2007 12:02 am ET)
             

          "A more marginal political player we'd be hard pressed to find."

          I have to agree with that description of Paul. A politician who's connected to reality on at least one issue, and talks at an adult level to his audience is dead meat if he's trying to get REpublicans' votes.

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        • Author by tex (October 23, 2007 6:19 am ET)
             

          LOLO:

          Valarie Plame has her book out, and Ambassador Joe Wilson was interviewed (I believe by Jane Paulie). Wilson made the point that going after a man's FAMILY is reprehensible and should not be tolerated. "Nobody has gone after the wives of Republican politicians, yet they said Valarie was 'fair game'."

          Paulie countered by saying, "Yes, but Dick Cheney's wife isn't with the CIA."

          "HOW DO YOU KNOW?" Wilson came back.

          Paulie was forced to admit she DIDN'T know.

          We know what the Media TELLS us, and the Media is TELLING us that Rudy and Romney are popular and doing well, while Paul IS NOT. Thus, we must NOT BELIEVE any information that shows Paul and his positions are popular. We can't believe polls, audience reaction, or internet activity. The Media tell us he is fringe and unpopular, and so that is what we are supposed to believe.

          It was the same when the Administration wanted the American public to believe that Saddam had vast stores of WMDs ... the Media obediently went along, promoting this falsehood for those who had a NeoCon agenda.

          Ron Paul is the NeoCon's nightmare: He's a TRUE conservative, and he is winning the support of the conservatives in America ... which means the warmongering NeoCons are LOSING THEIR BASE. This cannot be allowed, so the Media is doing everything in its power to downplay and marginalize Paul.

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          • Author by lolo (October 23, 2007 11:18 pm ET)
               

               So it's a conspiracy? The text polls are accurate (though unscientific) but all the other polls are wrong? And not just a little wrong but wrong on the scale of calling the Grand Canyon a pothole?

              I just don't buy it Tex. I just don't know any conservatives who like Ron Paul. Doesn't mean they're not out there...but looking for them to me seems like a Snark hunt. 

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        • Author by open_mind (October 23, 2007 10:51 am ET)
             

          "Does anyone really believe those text polls that favor Ron Paul? Where's your common sense...?"--lolo

          Except that no poster here is making that argument.  However Hannity suggests he believes in the exact same kind of polls when they favor his own views.  Where is his common sense indeed?

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          • Author by lolo (October 23, 2007 11:22 pm ET)
               

            OK. Now there's a fair point. I guess I thought that, between the lines, a point was being made about Paul's popularity .

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    • Author by jscott (October 22, 2007 5:46 pm ET)
         

      Rom Paul better watch it before he finds himself on the s**t end of some very "extraordinary rendition".

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    • Author by Pithaughn (October 22, 2007 5:50 pm ET)
         

      Sean is using the often sited POMAIWTR theory of poll results:

       

      Polls Only Matter When I Agree With The Results

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    • Author by wzwriter (October 22, 2007 5:53 pm ET)
         

      This is why his bosses at Faux News say that Sean Hannity is not a "journalist", but a "conservative commentator". 

      Journalists deal in facts.

      Conservatice commentators like Hannity get their information out of their butts.

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    • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 5:54 pm ET)
         

      everyone here should vote for ron paul in the primary, this way we can have one anti-war candidate who promises to get our troops out of iraq in the general election, since hillary refuses to commit to such a notion.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 22, 2007 6:33 pm ET)
           

        General, how many MMFA people do you think it would take to swing the nomination for Paul?

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        • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:14 pm ET)
             

          yes yes but every vote counts now that we actually have GOOD candidates on both sides running, so if i can convince one person then that is good enough for me.

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      • Author by lolo (October 22, 2007 11:30 pm ET)
           

          Any other reasons to vote for Paul? After he gets the troops out I guess his job would be done...

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    • Author by laughinglefty (October 22, 2007 7:02 pm ET)
         

      As Liberals, why shouldn't we vote for Kucinich instead of Paul? They both have about an equal chance to get the nomination of their respective parties. The difference? Kucinich won't relinquish control over our democratic form of government to corporate interests and the wealthy elite. He also won't dismantle Social Security but instead, strengthen it. Ron Paul will set civil rights back several generations, permit discrimination in the workplace and undermine a woman's right to choose whether or not to bring a pregnancy to term. Why on earth would any Liberal vote for that?

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      • Author by BLR (October 22, 2007 7:13 pm ET)
           

        I heartily endorse supporting Ron Paul as the Republican candidate - out of the motley crew the GOP has thrown together as their chosen white boys, Ron Paul shows more independent thought and understanding of things like foreign policy and domestic needs than any of the others.

        If you put a GOP candidate like this against whomever the DNC votes for, you have a passing shot at getting a president in the next election that isn't going to send our country further down the crapper.

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      • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:22 pm ET)
           

        • I do like Kucinich quite a bit, he just hasn't created the excitement that Paul has (or $) . 
        • Who said Ron Paul would give control over to corporate interests? He wants to take control out of the hands of the drug and insurance companies and give it back to the people. 
        • Please do not use scare tactics and say that Ron Paul will set civil rights back, there is nothing wrong with allowing the people to govern themselves as long as the states adhere to the constitution. The constitution does not allow for discrimination. Paul is pro-life but would leave it up to the states.  If you do some research you will find that a large majority of doctors are pro life and dont want anything to do with abortions.  I wonder why?  Putting that aside, leaving abortion up to the states wouldn't change abortion rights in any but a few southern states anyway
        • Wouldn't you rather have someone who believes that people have the right to choose when we've just had someone who thinks he is the "decider" and has expanded the government too much already?  Aren't you sick of big government getting into your business w/ wiretapping and all that?

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        • Author by laughinglefty (October 22, 2007 8:36 pm ET)
             

          No scare tactics, just the facts. 

          I happen to like the fact that government prevents my employer from arbitrarily being able to fire someone or pay them less based on their sex, race, religion or disability. I like the fact that my employer must provide me with a safe and healthy work environment. Ron Paul would do away with that. As far a states getting to make the decision for whether or not a woman has access to health services, well, why should a poor woman be cut off from her right to choose simply because she happens to live in the wrong state? Wasn't states rights the rallying call for racists against the civil rights movement? It's an anachronistic concept that has no place in an interconnected, technological modern society.

          I also happen to like the fact that my aging mother with Alzheimer's gets a Social Security check every month. Ron Paul would do away with that. I also think that it is necessary to regulate corporations so they don't pollute the air that I breath and the water I drink. Ron Paul would do away with that as well. Ron Paul would bring us decaying infrastructure, the privatization of the public commons, more media conglomeration, the list goes on.

          Your Libertarian principles led to the Great depression and Robber Barons. It's been done and was a catastrophic failure. Take a lesson from history, Laissez-faire is the ideology of petty authoritarians and economic elitists. It's the freedom to discriminate, fire anyone you want and dump your garbage upstream irregardless of the people downstream if it happens to be on your property. It's the freedom to hire Pinkertons and private militia to bust unions. It's gated communities of the super rich locking out the poor, workers and the dwindling middle class. Libertarianism is the velvet glove for wealthy trust fund babies and American oligarchy and the iron fist for the rest of us.

           

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          • Author by jscott (October 22, 2007 10:06 pm ET)
               

            Well played, Lefty.

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          • Author by lolo (October 22, 2007 11:38 pm ET)
               

             It seems a bit off topic but I wanted to find some common ground here...Pure capitalism is trouble, just like socialism and communism are trouble. A balance is required and let's faceit...corporate America has proven time and again that they need a little supervision.

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        • Author by lolo (October 22, 2007 11:35 pm ET)
             

          I do like Kucinich quite a bit, he just hasn't created the excitement that Paul has (or $)

            Ron Paul has created excitement? Where? Certainly not in the republican camp. Kucinich and Paul will NEVER get elected in their lifetimes. Their views are far too extreme...which is why they're such marginal players. If you find yourself aligned with these two politicians you are on the fringe! 

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          • Author by solon (October 23, 2007 12:19 am ET)
               

            Lunatic Fringe and proud. Kucinich is the MAN.

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            • Author by Les is more (October 23, 2007 8:17 am ET)
                 

              Kucinich? Off the cliff with the both of you. You'd be better off with grandpa Gravel.

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          • Author by isit2009yet (October 23, 2007 8:23 am ET)
               

            Kucinich and Paul do serve a very important purpose in the debates, though.  They keep the frontrunners uncomfortable...

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            • Author by lolo (October 23, 2007 11:30 pm ET)
                 

              I couldn't disagree more. Uncomfortable? These two only help the GOP candidates when they speak. I'd bet a month's pay that the candidates are more concerned about hangnails, mad cow and  real estate values at the Universe's end (then Ron paul).

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        • Author by mookworthjwilson (October 23, 2007 9:15 am ET)
             

          If we left things up to the voters in these same Southern States we woul also probably still have segregated schools and blacks in the back of the bus.  Being in the majority doesn't always make you right.

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        • Author by ChiCat (October 23, 2007 11:30 am ET)
             

          Do you recognize the irony of claiming a candidate represents freedom of choice within the same breath as discussing his support for repealing Roe vs. Wade?  "States' rights" is a smokescreen for a local majority restricting civil rights, just like with slavery and the Civil rights movement. And maybe you don't care about those "few southern states" that would outlaw abortion because it won't affect you, but millions of women who live there will be affected, especially the poor who can't afford to leave the state.

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      • Author by ChiCat (October 23, 2007 10:45 am ET)
           

        We all know that Kucinich doesn't really have a chance, as much as some of us would like to think otherwise.  But Edwards does, and he has a number of the same views as Kucinich, so progressives/liberals should throw their support behind him.

        http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/15825410/the_real_liberal_john_edwards_is_third_in_the_polls_but_dont_count_him_out

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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 22, 2007 7:06 pm ET)
         

      I would like to ask three questions to anyone that would care to answer them......

      When is FOX Noise going to be Fair and Balanced?

      Is it possible to sue FOX Noise for false advertising for its basic claim that its Fair and Balanced?

      Can there be a class action lawsuit against FOX Noise for incessent and obvious lying, cheery-picking partial facts to purposely further an agenda?

      If so, I'd like to join in on it!

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (October 22, 2007 7:16 pm ET)
           

        That's what's wrong with you liberals - frivilous lawsuits! Now what we need is tort reform so that nobody gets to sue anymore

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        • Author by captfoster2 (October 22, 2007 7:21 pm ET)
             

          Irony,

          And that is whats so wrong with you conservatives today....

          You are so willing to defend those that lie to you that you are unwilling to see that they in fact....

          ARE LYING TO YOU!

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          • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:25 pm ET)
               

            lets see - billo lies about the war and censors it by covering stupid local stories.

            hannity lies about his own poll, hannity lied to mccain when mccain pointed out that he was supporting giuliani (mmfa missed this from last night).

            all fox neocons lie about the surge and they try to lie about ron paul.

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          • Author by IRONY 101 (October 22, 2007 7:28 pm ET)
               

            Capt., I hope you realize I was joking...forgot to put the little winky smily face icon...;>)

             

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            • Author by captfoster2 (October 22, 2007 10:11 pm ET)
                 

              Sorry about that then Irony......

              Come to think of it, I should have known, as I have read some of your past posts but didn't mull them over before I reacted.....

              I was........ in the moment!  :)

              However, it wouldn't suprise either of us that your joke probably is what many conservatives believe is reality and my reply likely has much merit to it.

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        • Author by anyfreedomleft (October 22, 2007 9:25 pm ET)
             

          Definition of a frivolous lawsuit is when a corporation sues a day-care center because they used a Disney character without permission ... the mega corporation felt that people would get confused and think that the day-care center was Disneyworld ...

          Repukes "hate" lawyers so much they keep plenty of them on retainer in case a consumer decides not to honor a contract ... or the consumer decides that a corporation or insurance company SHOULD honor the contract that the corporation set in place ... 

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      • Author by FNC Liberal (October 23, 2007 12:07 am ET)
           

        Fox News cannot be sued for saying its "Fair and Balance," but the bad publicity that will be generated by Ron Paul and his supporters will be lethal. I'm willing to bet that they will target Fox News Channel's advertisers.

        As for thin-skin Sean, Bossman Murdoch must fire this low IQ wingnut for the sake of Fox News Channel. He is a pain in the a--, acts like a child when things don't go his way, and is a habitual liar.

        Hey Sean! Do yourself and News Corporation employees a favor and resign. You can vent your venom to Jill-if she'll listen.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 22, 2007 7:13 pm ET)
         

      "Oh, this poll -- you've got all your supporters calling."

      Uhhh, Sean - isn't that the point of a phone-in poll, for the people who support you to call? 

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      • Author by Gen. Petraeus (October 22, 2007 7:23 pm ET)
           

        it was actually a text poll and you can only vote once.  sean likes to lie about his own poll

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    • Author by drd60001073 (October 22, 2007 7:34 pm ET)
         

      The obvious question is if Ron Paul had all his supporters calling in, why didn't the other candidates do it?  It should be easier for them, if they really have more supporters than Paul does.

      I think you missed the worst quote about the text message polls, after the first Fox News debate, when one commentator (not Hannity) accused the Paul campaign staff of auto-dialing -- back when the Paul campaign had only 4 paid staff!

      The bigger story last night was Fox News not opening up ticket sales to the debate to everyone.  They apparently didn't like the applause Paul was getting at all the other debates, so they gave him a predetermined (small) share of the tickets, to prevent his numerous and enthusiastic supporters from scooping them up early.

      And the biggest travesty of concern to Media Matters should be the Associated Press story by Libby Quaid -- which didn't even mention half the candidates who participated in the debate.

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    • Author by neondesert (October 22, 2007 7:43 pm ET)
         

      HANNITY: But you think you've Ron Paul-ized them? Or Hannitized them?

      Well, let's see:  They still breathe through their noses, they don't have to wear cups around their necks to catch the drool, they can combine words into previously unscripted sentences, and they dress themselves...

      Nope, I'm pretty sure they haven't been "hannitized".

      Honestly, what a moronic buffon.  Why was that statement even made?  Is there supposed to be some sort of parallel between Paul's principles and the burning desire to rinse out Rudy's underoos by hand?

      Shyawn - word from your handlers: "Don't EVER ad-lib".

      Dumbest.  Individual.  In.  Broadcasting.  And yes, that includes beck and gibson. 

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 22, 2007 7:53 pm ET)
           

        Har! Thanks Neon. Just shutting down at work, and I'm going out with a big laugh.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (October 22, 2007 9:26 pm ET)
         

      The dirty secret is that the poll is worthless to begin with. As Paul and Hannity inadvertently pointed out, people can text repeatedly thereby unduly influencing the results.  This might work well on American Idol, but it is a pretty silly idea for H&C.

      Personally, I dislike all polls except the only one that counts. There are so many problems with polls, from how the questions are worded, to how they are administered, not to mention the problems with scientific sampling.

      If I could, I'd outlaw all polls on election day. I'd shutdown the news from forcasting any winner until the last poll closes in Hawaii or Guam or wherever is the furthest place West that people vote. The outcome doesn't change if one projects a winner at 7:30 pm EST or waits until 2:30 am the next morning. By making predictions earlier, it definitely influences later voting. Not to mention the many times the early predictions have been wrong.

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      • Author by RINO Hunter (October 22, 2007 9:38 pm ET)
           

        You're exactly right. The poll that Fox used is absolutely meaningless. It's a fact that Ron Paul's supporters are primarily young people who are very strong supporters and more likely to use the internet and use cell phones. Ron Paul always does very well on these internet polls and text message polls, but he does very poorly in the traditional polls. He still has no chance to win the Republican Primary; but I do think it's a good thing that he's in the race. It's good to have differing points of view rather than hearing the same thing over and over again.

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        • Author by solon (October 23, 2007 12:23 am ET)
             

          I absolutly agree. I loved having Sharpton in the race. He wasnt ever going to get my vote but with him IN the race all the candidates knew there would be no way to avoid poverty issues. Kucinich might not win but he brings the voice of us liberals important to the party and assures the rest of the candidates wont be able to ignore them.

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          • Author by Les is more (October 23, 2007 8:22 am ET)
               

            People like Sharpton dumb down the whole political debate. Racists like him have NO place in politics. The dems are much better off with him muzzled. Just look how the Clintons have managed to shut up that idiot Dean. With 'friends' like Sharpton and Dean, Hillary doesn't need enemies.

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      • Author by therick (October 22, 2007 11:36 pm ET)
           

        "Not to mention the many times the early predictions have been wrong."--AnotherAmerican

        Show me when the early polls have been wrong.  That's right--NEVER!

         

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        • Author by RINO Hunter (October 23, 2007 12:15 am ET)
             

          They were wrong in 2004 when all the exit polls showed that Kerry was going to win. They ended up being way off.

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          • Author by solon (October 23, 2007 12:28 am ET)
               

            Yes amazing. The ONLY time I have EVER seen exit polls be wrong. In fact when WE moniter election results in other countries we verify them by USING election polls. When Shevernadze tried to steal the election in Georgia and the results didnt match the exit polls HE WAS RUN OUT OF OFFICE. In fact the ONLY time I have EVER seen election results denigrated was in the 2004 election. That is a VERY good reason to get rid of Diebold or any OTHER electronic voting system that allows for NO VERIFICATION, surely insanity itself.

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            • Author by RINO Hunter (October 23, 2007 12:40 am ET)
                 

              The reason that exit polls no longer work is because of early voting. It's becoming much more common; more and more people are voting early. In 2004 more of the early voters were Republicans than Democrats. That was a big reason the exit polls were so messed up in 2004.

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              • Author by solon (October 23, 2007 2:19 am ET)
                   

                There is no rationale that would make a diffeference. Statistical analysis is an OLD speciality of mathematics. There is no evidence I have ever seen why those who vote early would in any way skew statistics. Do you HAVE such evidence? I notice we havent stopped using it to verify  foriegn elections.

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              • Author by open_mind (October 23, 2007 1:58 pm ET)
                   

                Why do you possibly oppose a system where you get a "receipt" (possibly combined with a pin number) for voting that can be independently verified on the internet or other means to make sure your vote was counted?

                Do you think public confidence in the integrity of our election system is unimportant?

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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 23, 2007 10:37 am ET)
               

            "Dewey defeats Truman" ?

            Gore v. Bush ?

            It ain't perfect dude.  "Never" really makes you sound like an idiot.

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      • Author by mookworthjwilson (October 23, 2007 9:17 am ET)
           

        You call yourself ANOTHERAMERICAN yet you don't know that they don't vote in Guam???  You probably couldn't even pass the citizenship test!!!

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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 23, 2007 10:39 am ET)
             

          Yeah.  I used to live on Guam, and I was hoping someone would point this out.

           Plus - if they DID vote, there's would be the FIRST poll to be tallied, not the LAST.

          "Guam - Where America's day BEGINS."

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      • Author by BLR (October 23, 2007 9:44 am ET)
           

        There are European countries that ban political adverts on election days.  I love the idea.

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      • Author by MiddleLeft (October 23, 2007 10:18 am ET)
           

        The dirty secret is that the poll is worthless to begin with. As Paul and Hannity inadvertently pointed out,

        I can't seem to find your alleged "inadvertent pointing out" in the text above.  The "General" has claimed earlier in this thread that it was only possible to vote once by text messaging.

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      • Author by chaop (October 23, 2007 1:43 pm ET)
           

        That's false. You can't vote more than once. This has been pointed out after each text poll that Ron Paul has won.

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    • Author by FormerConservative (October 22, 2007 9:57 pm ET)
         

      Latest Fixed News text poll: 85% say Sean Vannity would lose to Mitt Romney in The Dry Look's annual Hairspray Death Match.

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    • Author by Hod (October 23, 2007 10:18 am ET)
         

      selective polling thats what nearly everyone does

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