Willey rehashes Vince Foster conspiracy theories, draws parallels to her husband's death, Hsu's attempted suicide
SUMMARY: In her new book, Kathleen Willey rehashes conspiracy theories regarding Vince
Foster's 1993 suicide and suggests possible parallels between Foster's death and
the suicide of her husband, a
Clinton fundraiser, as well as the reported
suicide attempt of Norman Hsu. In
fact, numerous investigations have determined that Foster's death
was a suicide. Also, independent counsel Robert Ray found that Willey had given conflicting and false information related to her allegations against
President Bill Clinton.
In her new book Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton (World Ahead Publishing), Kathleen Willey rehashes conspiracy theories regarding former deputy White House counsel Vince Foster's 1993 suicide and suggests possible parallels between Foster's death and the suicide of her husband, Clinton fundraiser Ed Willey Jr., as well as the reported suicide attempt of Norman Hsu, a fundraiser for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) who was charged with fraud and violating campaign finance laws in California. Further, in an interview with WorldNetDaily published in a November 5 article, Willey asserted that she "[m]ost definitely" suspects that her husband was murdered and that she "ha[s] suspicions" the Clintons were involved. In suggesting parallels between the deaths of Foster and her husband, Willey repeats the false claim advanced by then-Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporter Christopher Ruddy that Foster was left-handed, while the gun was found in his right hand. Notwithstanding Ruddy's later acknowledgment that the claim that Foster was left-handed was a "factual error," Willey refers in the book to "the left-handed Vince Foster." As Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented (here, here, and here), numerous investigations have determined that Foster's death was a suicide.
As Media Matters has noted, on the March 15, 1998, edition of CBS' 60 Minutes, Willey alleged that Bill Clinton fondled her against her will in 1993 during a private White House meeting in which she asked for a paid position in the administration. Clinton denied making any sexual advance toward Willey. As the report by independent counsel Robert Ray noted, "Because the alleged incident arose in an employment context, Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled the allegations could be explored during discovery in Jones [v. Clinton]," the lawsuit in which Paula Jones claimed that Clinton sexually harassed her in an employment context. Ray's report, however, found that "Willey's Testimony to the Grand Jury About the Alleged Incident Differed Materially from Her Deposition Testimony Given in Jones v. Clinton," noting that Willey "said at her deposition ... that [Clinton] did not fondle her." Ray also found that Willey contradicted herself on whether she had told others about the alleged incident, and asserted that Willey gave false information to the FBI.
On Page 67 of Target, Willey writes that "it has not escaped my notice that, less than five months after the left-handed Vince Foster drove to a wooded area in Virginia and used both hands to put a .38 caliber pistol into his mouth, so did my husband":
At just about the same time that Clinton assaulted me on Monday afternoon, a gunshot cracked through the forest in King and Queen County [Virginia]. From a distance, someone heard the shot. My husband was dead.
Some time later, when conspiracy theories started to emerge about Vince Foster's death, people accumulated names of former Clinton associates who had died abruptly -- and conveniently for the Clintons. The list includes a plane crash here, a car accident there, a suicide here... My husband, "Clinton fundraiser, Ed Willey Jr." is on that list. And it has not escaped my notice that, less than five months after the left-handed Vince Foster drove to a wooded area in Virginia and used both hands to put a .38 caliber pistol into his mouth, so did my husband.
Willey's statements echo past claims by Ruddy. As Columbia Journalism Review reported in 1996, "In two chapters of 'The Ruddy Investigation,' both copyrighted in 1994, he questions how the fatal gun could have been found in Foster's right hand when Foster was left-handed." In fact, during the October 8, 1995, edition of 60 Minutes, discussing Ruddy's reporting on Foster's death, co-host Mike Wallace noted that "[t]he fact is that Foster was right-handed, not left-handed." Wallace also noted that "Ruddy acknowledged that error." (Ruddy attributed the error to The Boston Globe.)
Willey goes on to assert that after her husband's death, her "friend Carole" told her that "Ed confided to [Carole's husband] Dann that he'd taken briefcases full of cash to Little Rock during the campaign." She also cites "a blog, The Cocaine Candidacy," which asserted that "Ed Willey, the manager of the Clinton 1992 presidential campaign finance committee, and notable for handling large briefcases full of cash, reportedly avoided airplanes. He died of a gunshot wound which was declared to be a suicide (not unlike Vincent Foster)." Willey then speculates: "So why would he be killed? Because he was carrying illegal money? That's probably not enough reason. But what if, in his desperation, Ed had 'illegally borrowed' from the campaign?" (On Pages 54-55, Willey writes that her husband had used the words "illegally borrowed" to describe how he used his clients' money to "pay the IRS and other bills.") From Page 68:
People ask me whether I believe Ed's death was a suicide. It is a wrenching question, and I doubt I will ever completely resolve it in my mind.
For one thing, I could never answer one question: Why would someone kill Ed?
After his death, my friend Carole told me something I hadn't known. Ed and I spent Christmas 1992 in Colorado with Carole and her husband. One evening during that trip, Ed confided to Dann that he'd taken briefcases full of cash to Little Rock during the campaign. When Carole told me this, I was shocked.
"Well, think about it," she said. "Is there any way he could have done that without your knowing?"
"Well, yeah, sure," I said. I was home all day and I assumed Ed was either at his office or out looking at property. "He had land-use and zoning meetings out in neighborhoods all the time," I said. "I guess he could have flown to Little Rock in the morning and come home the same day, especially if private planes were involved." But if he had done that, I was oblivious. I never saw any hint of it. Still, it makes me wonder. Ed may have been more involved in the Clinton campaign than I was.
I recently saw something on a blog, The Cocaine Candidacy, that explored early, illegal fund-raising activities by the Clintons. In its list of campaign "officials" who died, the site includes this curious notation: "Ed Willey, the manager of the Clinton 1992 presidential campaign finance committee, and notable for handling large briefcases full of cash, reportedly avoided airplanes. He died of a gunshot wound which was declared to be a suicide (not unlike Vincent Foster)." Unless the writer of this blog talked to my friend Carole and her husband, I have no idea how anyone other than the Clintons would know that Ed might have carried cash in briefcases. So why would he be killed? Because he was carrying illegal money? That's probably not enough reason. But what if, in his desperation, Ed had "illegally borrowed" from the campaign?
Willey writes that in the course of working on her book, she asked a "medical examiner" if powder burns on her husband's hand "were indicative of a left-handed person committing suicide" and that the medical examiner gave contradictory answers. According to Willey, the medical examiner provided a "full report" in which the medical examiner "suggested that he [Ed Willey] held the gun with both hands but pulled the trigger with his right." Willey adds: "That's exactly how Vince Foster is said to have killed himself." Willey also writes: "Despite the unanswered questions, I reconciled in my mind, long ago, that Ed killed himself. In my heart, I don't want to think so and I still wonder, How could he possibly do that? I go back and forth. And, as I do, the possibility lingers, logical or not, that Ed was murdered."
Discussing the suicide notes that Ed Willey left, Willey asserts that "How anyone could sit and write such letters is beyond me," adding, "And while the letters are in his writing, I also know that anyone would write anything at gunpoint." In the book's index, this incident is listed as "suspicious suicide notes" under the heading "Willey, Ed, Jr." From Pages 68-70:
After Ed died, I asked the police where he'd gotten the gun, a Smith and Wesson .38 Special. They told me it was unregistered, though they later tracked it to a woman in North Carolina. I still don't know who she was. To this day, I think there's a lot the state police didn't tell me, to protect me.
I watch criminal dramas on television, so I asked Dan, my lawyer, if there were powder burns on Ed's hand. Yes, he assured me, the evidence is solid. Ed had powder burns on his right hand. I shivered. Ed was left-handed.
Writing this book opened old wounds as I began to question Ed's death again. I requested a copy of his autopsy report and spoke to a medical examiner, who told me the powder burns were consistent with suicide. When I asked if the burns were indicative of a left-handed person committing suicide, she said no. The room started to spin, and I went into the bathroom and threw up. By the time she sent me the full report, though, she'd reconsidered, saying it could be consistent with a left-handed person. She suggested that he held the gun with both hands but pulled the trigger with his right. That's exactly how Vince Foster is said to have killed himself.
The report raised other questions, too. For one, it said that there was blood spatter, not on his palm, but on the back of Ed's left hand. If he pulled the trigger with his right hand, why would his left hand have been facing away from his face?
I noticed something else.
After death, the blood in the body pools to the lowest parts of the body due to gravity. In several hours, the blood "fixes" in this position, no longer shifting when the body is moved, so medical examiners look for "livor" or "livor mortis" to indicate the position of the body in the hours after death. When the sheriff found Ed, he was lying face down with the gun underneath him. He had been in that position overnight, so livor should have been fixed on the front of his body. But, according to the autopsy report, livor was complete, it's distribution posterior, on the back of his body. His body might have been moved.
Also, according to the autopsy, the bullet was not recovered.
I have not seen the police report, so I do not know if they searched the woods for the bullet. I do not know if they examined the area for blood spatter or other evidence that Ed did, indeed, die beside that swamp. I do not know why Ed would have gone to King and Queen County, to that particularly ugly place. I do not know where in the world Ed would have obtained a .38 Special, or whether he had personally purchased the box of bullets that the police recovered in his car. There's a lot I don't know.
I had been told that Jane-Lee found Ed's suicide notes were in his office, but the medical examiner's report noted, "Exam at site revealed five notes." There was one for each of us -- me, Shannon, Patrick, and a couple of others. Ed wrote his good-byes, said he'd done a bad thing, and wished us well. He told me he was a fool and out of control. He told Shannon that she was going to be a great doctor. He told my son to look after Shannon and me. And he asked us to forgive him. How anyone could sit and write such letters is beyond me. But then, I could never understand how he could leave us, either. And while the letters are in his writing, I also know that anyone would write anything at gunpoint.
I know, this is the point where people say, "Ah, she's nuts."
Despite the unanswered questions, I reconciled in my mind, long ago, that Ed killed himself. In my heart, I don't want to think so and I still wonder, How could he possibly do that? I go back and forth. And, as I do, the possibility lingers, logical or not, that Ed was murdered.
In the November 5 article, WorldNetDaily reported that Willey "points a finger of suspicion at the former first couple for the death of her husband, who was believed to have killed himself." From the article:
In a new book alleging a campaign of slander and intimidation orchestrated chiefly by Hillary Clinton, Kathleen Willey points a finger of suspicion at the former first couple for the death of her husband, who was believed to have killed himself.
Willey, who claims she was groped by President Clinton in the White House, acknowledged in an interview with WND today that she stands by the speculation she poses about her husband's demise in "Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton," set for release this week by World Ahead Publishing, WND Books' partner.
Asked if she suspects her husband Ed, a lawyer and son of a prominent Virginia lawmaker, was murdered, Willey replied, "Most definitely."
"I'm having someone with a forensics background look at this, and I intend to pursue this further, now that these questions have been raised," she told WND, pointing to alleged discrepancies in the autopsy report.
Does she believe the Clintons were involved?
"I do have suspicions," Willey said, "yes."
Willey also asserts that after failing to appear at a September 5 court date, Hsu "boarded the California Zephyr, a passenger train that stops in Denver en route to Chicago. As his train rolled through Colorado, Hsu fell ill and Amtrak personnel called paramedics. Hospitalized for a few days, Hsu was taken into custody and finally, to jail. Meanwhile, a few Hsu acquaintances received explicit suicide notes, allegedly signed by Norman Hsu and mailed about the time he got sick." In fact, The New York Times reported September 22 that according to Hsu's lawyer, James J. Brosnahan, Hsu "had taken an overdose of sleeping pills, which led to his hospitalization." Further, according to an October 18 New York Daily News article, "Hsu's effort to kill himself is detailed in court papers obtained Wednesday by The News. The 'excessive number of over-the-counter pills' eventually led Hsu's kidneys to fail and induced severe delirium." Willey goes on to claim that the "questions" surrounding Hsu's suicide attempt "echo -- precisely -- the many lingering concerns about the Clinton's fundraising irregularities, 'irregularities' that may well have involved my husband and even his death." From Page 240:
Hsu boarded the California Zephyr, a passenger train that stops in Denver en route to Chicago. As his train rolled through Colorado, Hsu fell ill and Amtrak personnel called paramedics. Hospitalized for a few days, Hsu was taken into custody and finally, to jail. Meanwhile, a few Hsu acquaintances received explicit suicide notes, allegedly signed by Norman Hsu and mailed about the time he got sick. A few days later, since Hsu had forfeited a measly $2 million bail just a week earlier, the Colorado prosecutor asked for $50 million bail saying, "It seems like Monopoly money at this point." The judge set bail at $5 million.
In an effort to distance herself from Hsu's tangled web, Hillary pledged to return $850,000 of Hsu's donations. However, a campaign spokesman said the individual contributors could make new donations. "We will accept their contributions and ask them to confirm for our records that they are from their own personal fund," Howard Wolfson wrote in an e-mail.
But the Clintons' possible involvement doesn't end there. Many questions remain regarding Hillary's fundraising efforts. Did Hsu break laws to raise more than a million dollars for Hillary and other Democrats? What did Hillary or her staff know about his activities and when did they know it? How did Hsu finance the $2 million bail that he forfeited? And did he really intend to commit suicide?
The questions don't surprise me. They echo -- precisely -- the many lingering concerns about the Clinton's fundraising irregularities, "irregularities" that may well have involved my husband and even his death.















This Willy is a lying partisan hack. How long before she appears on Hannity and Colmes with exclusive interviews?
Actually in the days before HRC's memoir Her Way was released both O'Reilly and Hannity had this nut job on their shows as a counter to the book.
Hannity went out of his way to praise her as a believable source.
I think I'll switch over to Fox News right now and see if she's on. This new Caveman sitcom is pretty lame.
Nope, Dog the Bounty Hunter is defending himself about a racial rant he was recorded making.
And nice of Hannity to give the Bounty Hunter an interview while FOX ignores the real stories of the day, torture, waterboarding. FOX makes things up.
Turns out - per H&C "interview" - that Dog thought he was Black so his use of the N-word should have been ok. Guess his favorite country song is "Mammy Lied."
I think I'll switch over to Fox News right now and see if she's on. This new Caveman sitcom is pretty lame.
I agree. At least the caveman on Fox has some funny lines. Not as lame.
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Oh, wait. That's Hannity, not Flintstone. I was mistaken.
Hannity looked into her eyes and knew she was not lying. How does that idiot sleep at night?
The unfortunate "nut" jobs are the people who could not see the involvement of Hillary Clinton in the death of Vince Foster. I care nothing of, or for Ms. Willey's tale. I care about the facts of the involvement of Mr. Foster and Ms. Clinton and Mr. Fosters most BIZARRE MURDER.
Willey's story is very sad. She lost her husband and her life turned upside down. There were big money problems.
Then there was her husband's involvement in fundraising for the Clintons.
Such tragedy, combined with a "connection" to the Clintons, presents an irresistable drive for the Rightwing to exploit this woman.
Already traumatized, and in a financial bind due to her husband's suicide, the Rightwing knew she was ripe to expound on "suspicions" for cash. She HAD that "proximity" to the Clintons, so that gives the rightwing all the toehold they need to present another Clinton-smearing book full of suspicions and innuento, unencumbered by any FACTS.
Willey is sad, but the Rightwing is pathetic. They are so damn desperate to "get" the Clintons, to stop Hllary's campaign, the hatred oozes out of their every pore.
The name of the game is EXPLOIT TRAGEDY. It's a close cousin to the FEARMONGERING the Bush Administration engages in constantly.
At long last, have they no SHAME? (stupid question ... shame requires honor, a conscience, morality and a soul.)
Indeed Tex. Fox goes on and on about "Bush Bashing" and irrational hatred of him. They're offended that anyone suggests that he is a liar and stupid -- which he is. Yet they can accuse a former president of murder, rape, and countless other felonies and say that a former first lady and sitting U.S. senator is culpable. Oh, the hypocrisy! "Have they no shame?" should be the '08 bumper sticker for dems.
Me thinks that the Republicans and the right-wing pundits should be very careful for what they ask for.......
If they want to dig into Hillarys potential bad deeds of taking illegal ill gotten gains then they better be willing to accept that the same can and will be done to their side.
With all this caterwalling about Bill & Hill one might conclude that Democrats are the only ones that take illegal money......
I have to ask.... I wonder who paid Willey to crawl out from under the rock she's been living under all these years?
Excuse me but didn't MMFA cover WorldNetDaily's review of this book yesterday? Why give it a second thread? All of this could have been included in the other thread.
It appears no other MEDIA outlet has commented on Willey's new book [thus far], so why MMFA is doing WND Part 2?
All I see are references to media coverage back in the 90's...
Is MMFA now reviewing books?
I thought MMFA were a Media Watchdog for Conservative misinformation.
Shouldn't they wait till someone else in the media [besides WND] actually mentions Willy's book?
Am I missing something here?
WITH?
Let's walk through this carefully - Are books part of media? yes. Is the book filled with conservative misinformation? yes.
That would be WTIH, TYVM.
MMFA covers books when the media covers them. I don't believe they normally do book reviews on their own.
Since MMFA already covered WorldNetDaily's coverage of this book yesterday, I find it a tad odd that they are doing a new thread as Part 2 when they could have covered all the info in one thread.
Guess pointing this out annoys you? Tough.
Of course you're right Jeter......this is just more blurring of the mission statement here to now include getting out in front of this book to minimize any damage it may do to Hillary.
If MMFA stuck to what they say they do, they would wait until this book is bandied about by someone in the media and then they would offer their corrections.
What's next - restaurant reviews?
this is just more blurring of the mission statement here to now include getting out in front of this book to minimize any damage it may do to Hillary.
Good call Tommy. I hadn't even thought of that.
Seems the mission statement here is always in flux ;-)
Books are part of the media.
and we heard all this same crying about the 9-11 movie on abc. you guys can't say anything about it now, you have to wait until it comes out. waaaah, unfair. don't like the book being highlighted here? to quote someone: "tough".
Literature is a form of media. Dance around it all you want, the fact remains.
"Is MMFA now reviewing books?"
"MMFA covers books when the media covers them."
"Of course you're right Jeter"
Oh Really?
Seriously?
You're sure about that?
I'm surprised, considering you both are seasoned MMFA forum vets, and the foremost experts on everything. :-D
Still not convinced?
How about now?
Vince Foster committed suicide the same way Marilyn Monroe did. Leave Hill's old boyfriend alone. Let's concentrate on getting a real "man" to run for president, one with a pair of balls who will fight for my rights, not a pacificist flip-flopper like Clinton. She won't win and just like her husband, will not carry a majority of the vote. What happenen to my Democratic Party? What happened to real "statesmen" and real politicians who can get things done....and while we're at it, get rid of that Pelosi dame...she couldn't put a coalition together if her life depended on it. I want Tip back.
OK, I'm not even giong to dignify most of that post with a response, but as for the whole "did not carry a majory of the vote" thing... do you honestly think that was unique to Clinton?
Just to educate you it's happened 17 times in our history that the president elect did not get a majority of the popular vote. 10 Democrats, 5 Republicans, 1 Whig and 1 Federalst were elected in such a manner. And John Q. Adams didn't even get a PLURALITY of the popular vote nor did he have a PLURALITY of the electoral college votes! He WON even though he LOST! (Look it up, I'm not going into the details here.) And he was a Repblican. Just like another President's son, ~200 years later that failed to win a majory of the poplaur vote, and would not have even won the electoral vote were it not for interference on the part of the supreme court.
So let's stop harping on Clinton's popular plurality as if it was significant. It was a three way race (twice) for crying out loud. It's hardly unprecedented and he still took the electoral vote in a LANDSLIDE both times.
Georgecg4, I apologize. I think I got your post mixed up with another one. The opening tone of my post was a lot harsher then was called for.
(I still disagree with the "real man" comment though!) ;)
As for the rest - it's a bit off topic, but hopefully still enlightening for so of the more right-wing posters that still harp on the whole "no majority" thing.
George, do you think the country would be better off if women were not only not elected to higher office, but were not allowed to vote? Or are you saying that's it's OK if women vote, as long as they vote for me. You seem to be a bit fixated on gender.
maybe the fact that her husband owed the irs $400,000 and a client 275,000 for bilking him out of money had something to do with it. there was the suicide note he left that said i deserve your eternal scorn. no doubt hillary typed it, though.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,988050-2,00.html
Thank you for posting some details about Willey's financial problems.
One of the Clintons should sue her ass for libel, and do it in the UK so that she would be forced to prove her claims. Since the book is available internationally, suing in the UK would be appropriate.
Here's a 1998 NYT article "Willey Debts in Foreground of Efforts to Sell Her Story"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE5D71638F933A15750C0A96E958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Star editors said that Willey's book pushing lawyer wanted $300k for her story. The article also contains some interesting personal details about Willey's friendships.
After being accused of embezzling $274,500 from a law client, Ms. Willey's husband, Ed, pressured her to co-sign a repayment note. The client successfully sued the estate and Ms. Willey, with the Virginia Supreme Court ruling in March 1996 that Ms. Willey had to pay back the client. The judgment was enforced by court order last June.
Mounting financial woes caused strains in the Willeys' marriage, according to several longtime friends. Mr. Willey owed more than $500,000 in back taxes. There were liens against their home in Virginia and a condo in Vail, Colo. Mr. Willey had illegally used his clients' money to repay some of what he owed the Internal Revenue Service, court records show.
On Nov. 28, 1993, the day before Ms. Willey first went to see President Clinton to ask him for help finding a paying job, Mr. Willey left their house in anger to stay with a friend, according to court records. On Nov. 30, the day after her visit to the White House, his body was found just off a rural road near his blue Isuzu Trooper. He was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
To evade her husband's creditors, Ms. Willey disclaimed her share of his $1 million life insurance policy and gave her share to her children, court records show. A Richmond businessman, H. Louis Salomonsky, helped Ms. Willey restructure her finances. For years, she has lived primarily off an allowance from her two adult children, working intermittently at a bread factory and a hair salon and living in a rented house.
Ms. Willey hoped her political contacts would help ease these financial difficulties, though she never succeeded in winning a secure, full-time job in the Clinton Administration.
Uh, why did she seek a job from the person she claims killed her husband ?
As early as 1992, Ms. Willey proudly displayed her ties to Mr. Clinton. The walls of the Willeys' home in Midlothian, Va., were covered with ''Clinton memorabilia,'' one friend said, including photographs, invitations to fund-raisers and letters signed by Mr. Clinton.
Michael Morchower, a Richmond lawyer who said he has known her for about 15 years, said that at her husband's funeral, Ms. Willey ''was bragging that President Clinton might make an appearance, if his schedule permitted.''
P. T. Hastings Jr., who owns a chain of seafood stores in Richmond, was a pallbearer for Mr. Willey and recalls that his friend was always trying to please his wife.
''One day he came by the store with a Mercedes and then with a Porsche, and asked me which one he should buy for her,'' Mr. Hastings said.
He said Mr. Willey confided in the year before his death that he and his wife had discussed separating.
morchower, described in the time link as "close to the willeys", also said of her: "i don't think she missed an opportunity to be around bill clinton".
I believe that these RightWing nut jobs really like the Clintons and secretly wish that Hillary wins the Oval Office. Face it, the Clintons are a great source of income for publishers, news outlets, authors and conspiracy nuts. If someone were to take the time, they may find that within the past 15 years, the Clintons have passed Elvis as the most profitable cottage industry. (And if not, Elvis may find himself on THE LIST)...and then he may really die.
I think that you could easily make the case that Rush Limbaugh owes his vast fortune to the Clintons. In fact, everyone who has made a fortune in Fascist Radio owes at least part of their success to the Clintons and the visceral hatred they inspired amongst the Troglodytes.
The Clinton haters drag out this "witch" and yes I am calling her a "Witch" in Wiley to spout her anti Clinton 1990s conspiracy crap. How many times did we hear in the 90s about Vince Foster and Hillary and all the other BS. The bigger question is why does the media allow this to be spewed without proper rebuttal? Why is Willey even being taken seriously. The smearing of Senator Clinton in progress continues. More reasons why our political system is completely broke.
It is the same way they allowed Kerry to be swiftboated. To them Clinton is as bad as Bush is to us, but at least we have legit reasons. It is sad that everything they claimed Clinton was doing Bush has done ten folds, but they are so drunk with power that they do not even care.
Justice and Truth in the USA - FACT CHECK:
Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine
by Candice E. JacksonThe traumatic accounts of seven women who crossed paths with Bill Clinton are finally told in this moving rebuttal to the former President's memoir, My Life. Extensive research proves that Clinton's inner circle bribed, intimidated, and harassed these women when they fell out of Bill's favor. The author also makes the convincing case that Hillary's active involvement in these attacks should make women everywhere oppose her campaign to return to the White House.
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There is plenty of documentary evidence that proves how Bill attacked women and then had his goons attack and smear them all over again.
I have to call this one for Wiley!!
Candice E. Jackson is a lawyer who worked for Judicial Watch, an organization whose founding principles appear to include drowning the the court system with a blizzard of lawsuits against the Clintons.
JUSTICE:
Your very screenname invokes our Constitution and our JUSTICE SYSTEM which is based on individual rights, judgment by peers, due process, and EVIDENCE. Finally, there is punishment to those found GUILTY by the system.
KEY to the process is PROOF and EVIDENCE, which, when shown, puts our JUSTICE SYSTEM in motion, and there are indictments, trials, and sometimes convictions, which legitimately assigns the GUILTY label on the defendant.
Now, to examine your presentation, a promotional piece for a book related to Bill Clinton's behavior. We review with an eye towards what is TRUE, and what is merely a CLAIM:
You display, "Extensive research proves ..."
RESPONSE: Well, this is a great start. Law Enforcement and District Attorneys across our land routinely engage in "extensive research" looking for evidence of CRIME. If their "extensive research PROVES" that CRIME, they are compelled by their oaths of office to pursue convictions for those crimes. So your opening sentence PROMISES action against perpetrators. Next are the indictments. We continue to see WHAT was PROVEN:
You: "... that Clinton's inner circle bribed (a CRIME), intimidated (a CRIME), and harassed these women (a CRIME) when they fell out of Bill's favor."
RESPONSE: This is GREAT. Not only "extensive research" PROVING something, but now THREE DIFFERENT CRIMES have been specified. Now we see who was indicted ...
You: "The author also makes the convincing case ..."
RESPONSE: Well, that will be determined by a Grand Jury, and ultimately by a TRIAL, but I guess you're just reviewing the arrest warrants here. Arrests for the CRIMES that have been PROVEN, as you claim above...
You: "... that Hillary's active involvement in these attacks ..."
RESPONSE: EVEN BETTER! You have claimed PROOF, THREE DIFFERENT CRIMES, and now you NAME an ACCESSORY to the crimes (accessories to crime, we all know, can be punished equally with those who actually committed the crimes).
This is SO EXCITING, JUSTICE. You've presented ALL THE ELEMENTS needed to put a criminal on trial, and get a conviction. [That is, if what you CLAIM is actually TRUE.]
You: "... which we all know should make women everywhere oppose her campaign to return to the White House."
RESPONSE: WHAT??? WHAT!!! Here you've PROMISED (1) extensive research, which (2) PROVES (3) at least THREE DIFFERENT CRIMES, and you've (4) named someone with "active involvement" in those crimes.
Yet, there IS no indictment, there ARE no arrest warrants, there is not even a CHARGE made ... but what you are ASKING for here is just to NOT SUPPORT HILLARY in an election???? Could you BE more craven?
You: "There is plenty of documentary evidence that proves how Bill attacked women and then had his goons attack and smear them all over again."
RESPONSE: Then why are you not reporting INDICTMENTS and ARRESTS?
SUMMARY: Smears, partisan attacks, innuendo and suspicion, all fueled by rightwing hatred towards their political foes, and all promoted by their "paid for" media outlets.
When you claim "proof", you LIE. When you claim CRIME, you LIE. When you claim "active involvement", you LIE.
You, JUSTICE, are nothing but a LIAR. You LIE. You do not tell the TRUTH. You have PROVEN you cannot be trusted, that your words are empty. You are a LIAR. You promise that which does not exist. You assert as TRUE things which are NOT true. You are a LIAR.
Dismissed.
Applause from the spectators. Thanks, Tex.
Who is this Tex, and why is'nt Tex running for president.
I urge you all, write in Tex for president!
Wow!!!!! Great post Tex. The far right nuts seem to always have a problem reconciling the difference between fact and gossip. This JUSTICE person supports gossip, rational people support fact. I dare say he has no factual rebuttal, but he sure can gossip with the best. Isn't it odd that some believe that their ability to equivocate is a personal attribute?
Damn. Another shot to the jugular by Tex. Well done, as always.
Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check:
Tex -
You went to an awful lot of effort there - however, the lines you claim I wrote were actually lines that I cited. That paragraph under the link was written by someone else.
The lines above the link and after the dahsed line are mine.
JUSTICE responds:
"Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check:"
MY RESPONSE: You employ three concepts of which you are either unfamiliar or incapable. As a rightwing smearmerchant, lightning should strike you if you ever dare to utter the words "justice", "truth" or "fact". You have proven you know NOTHING of any of these solemn virtues. But we have already shown what a LIAR you are, so self delusion is no surprise.
Let's continue:
Justice: "Tex -"
RESPONSE: I will respond to you, who are a LIAR, only for the benefit of other potential readers, just so your attempt at "rebuttal" does not stand unchallenged.
Justice: "You went to an awful lot of effort there -"
RESPONSE: This entire site is about exposing the disinformation, lying, and smearing tactics of the Rightwing, of which you are a particularly heinous member. No effort at all, really.
Justice: "...however, the lines you claim I wrote were actually lines that I cited."
RESPONSE: Another LIE from you.
In my intro, I specifically noted that your "presentation" was a "promotional piece for a book" that you then put on "display".
I didn't say you WROTE it, but you chose it specifically because you ENDORSED what it said, a fact you made clear with your closing paragraph.
By DISPLAYING it, you ENDORSED it, and the rebuttal of IT was a direct rebuttal of YOU.
Justice: "That paragraph under the link was written by someone else."
RESPONSE: To be fair, now, DO you endorse the paragraph you ran, or do you now ADMIT that it is full of LIES? And if you're now RUNNING from its content, why did you post it in the first place??
Justice: "The lines above the link and after the dahsed (sic) line are mine."
RESPONSE: Are you trying to weasel out of being eviscerated, by saying you ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU POSTED??? Geezus Christ, you're not only a LIAR, but you're a COWARD as well, and a WEASEL to boot. God, man, how do you look in a mirror?
Justice: "The lines above the link and after the dahsed (sic) line are mine."
Tex - you made one really great point - I did, in fact, transpose the letters in "dahsed".
How clever of you to notice.
Justus. How inane of you. You have been thrashed, spanked, the floor has been mopped with your visage, embarassed, defeated and destroyed. It is time to repeat for you the first rule of holes when you find yourself in one STOP DIGGING. It is long past time for you to stop digging.
Tex - To keep this all in perspective just a reminder from our last thread as to the polarizing aspects of the Clintons and why books about them draw so much attention. From a NY Times review of "The Hunting Of The President"
"Conason and Lyons are correct that there are people who dislike the Clintons so much they will believe anything negative about them on the flimsiest of evidence. There are also Clinton supporters who will accept any theory to absolve them no matter how unsupported"
WC:
Your response has me baffled.
You quote a passage from the review written by Neil Lewis for the New York Times, a review which PANNED Conason's "Hunting of the President."
The review itself was very problematic, as the Daily Howler detailed ...
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h041400_1.shtml
... and this can be explained by the fact that "Hunting" was brutal TO the New York Times as to their participation in spreading fact-free dirt on President Clinton, as well as other rightwing water-carrying.
So, we're dealing with a review involving revenge and petty pique. But let's get to that quote anyway:
"Conason and Lyons are correct that there are people who dislike the Clintons so much they will believe anything negative about them on the flimsiest of evidence."
RESPONSE: OK, we're in agreement here (if we add 'or NO EVIDENCE AT ALL'), and rebutting those claims STILL takes up a lot of time in this site, debunking rightwing smears. This is especially true since Hillary decided to run for President, and the rightwing has dug deep in the archives to try to reanimate old previously and thoroughly debunked smears.
So what else?
"There are also Clinton supporters who will accept any theory to absolve them no matter how unsupported"
OK, so are you endorsing THIS part as well? We could TEST it, if you like. I myself have spent a lot of time "defending" the Clintons against their many attackers, but I would CHALLENGE that in doing so, I have "accepted ANY theory to absolve them", "No matter how unsupported."
See, WC, this gets back to a basic Constitutional issue, the matter of being INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. The accused in America does not even need to put forward a "theory" to "absolve." The BURDEN is on the accusers. Since an "absolving theory" does not even need to exist, it would be wholly irrelevant if one was "unsupported".
So this claim by Lewis is SPECIOUS. I reject it, but maybe you have another notion.
Perhaps if you picked a Clinton topic for which you think Clinton supporters have "accepted a theory" which absolves, we might have starting point to see if your adopted claim is valid?
Tex - While I have often seen you make thoughtful and thorough posts, this time I have seen you spend many words accomplishing absolutely nothing. The Clintons are so polarizing that your classroom textbook and preachy sermon posts aren't going to change anybodys mind. The point of my post was simply to put in perspective that arguing over the Clintons guilt or innocense is about as futile as an argument on whether a glass is half full or half empty. Any author who writes in favor of them you will find no fault in, in any author against them you will find no credibility.
If the world were as black and white as you paint the justice system to be there would be no criminals walking free, no innocents behind bars. We know that is not true. We know there are ways to manipulate the justice system, we know there is incompetence in investigation, prosecution, and judgement.
I am in no position to accuse or absolve the Clintons of anything. For every pundant that takes one side, a pundant form the other side comes along to counter them. You can write until the cows come home - go for it. Just realize you are predominantly preaching to the choir.
so all we can do is look at the evidence. in this case, nothing supports willey and actually the evidence is against her claims. that's not hard to figure out, is it?
WC:
You say, "I am in no position to accuse or absolve the Clintons of anything."
That's fine, but OTHER posters in here have no compunctions at all making wild claims of criminal behavior on the part of the Clintons.
Then YOU make an allusion/accusation that those who defend the Clintons do so without any factual basis, believing theories absolving the Clintons without any support. I challenged this part of your presentation, because it accuses of mindless fealty rather than reasoned thought WITH factual basis.
Since you're not going to accuse, then I guess we will not be "testing" whether that part of your accusation is valid.
Pity.
Unfortunately facts don't always tell the story, they can be easily overwhelmed by impressions. The point I am making is visable in the like Hillary/ dislike Hillary opinion polls that seem to now pop up weekly.
The point is simple here. The burden of proof is on he who makes the accusation. NO PROOF has met this burden so far. I was never a big Clinton supporter but that doesnt change the basic fact here. Those who are making the accusations are not within a parsec of meeting their burden of proof, never have been. So your accusation is worthless
I'm not making an accusation - just pointing out a reality that, as I mentioned above, is evident in the opinion polls on Hillary.
Yes you are THIS is an accusation
There are also Clinton supporters who will accept any theory to absolve them no matter how unsupported"
Spot on Tex! You seem to be making a habbit of spanking justicetruthus pretty sharply lately. I love reading your all's exchanges. A wreckless outpouring of ignorance (ending with that ridiuclous "i call this one for..." BS) followed by a near nuclear anihalation of every point made. Great stuff!Keep it up!
NICEGUY:
Thanks for the kind words. Unfettered, these guys got away with Swiftboating, because the left did not want to "lower themselves" to defending such obvious lies. It was a tactical mistake, and it very well may have lost Kerry the presidency.
So, this site is GREAT, because it doesn't let these rightwing bloviators get away with their old tactics of smear and character assassination.
I'm happy to do my part, and I "take on" those posters who display the most egregious tendencies towards the underhanded. "Justice" believes the old ways will prevail. He is wrong.
You are the man Tex
And I have to call Justicetruthus an idiot.
JUSTUSTROLLS says: "There is plenty of documentary evidence that proves how Bill attacked women"
Well, with that in mind, I can only assume that you are all for the impeachment and prosecution of Bush and Cheney, since there is MUCH more evidence of their indiscretions than Willey has presented against Bill Clinton.
Justice and Truth in the USA - FACT CHECK:
Actually, I did examine many of the claims about whether or not President George Bush or Vice President Richard Cheney "lied" and found that the allegations were simply untrue. The proof that the allegations are not true is totally supported by the fact that the Democrats are not willing to back Dennis Kucinich's impeachement resolutions which the Democrat Party voted to table.
What more evidence do I need?
But there is a third person to whom Ms. Willey spoke about the encounter. Two associates of Ms. Willey said she had told Harolyn Cardozo, a 41-year-old White House co-worker, that the President had made a pass at her. Mrs. Cardozo recalled that Ms. Willey sounded ''excited and pleased'' in a telephone conversation about the encounter on the evening of Nov. 29, 1993, one associate said.
In parts of the deposition that have not yet been released, Ms. Willey confirmed that she continued to correspond with the President after the November 1993 meeting at the White House. On Monday, the White House released 15 friendly notes and letters from Ms. Willey to the President.
Ms. Willey also met with the President 11 days after the meeting, according to the deposition. In this meeting, Ms. Willey said in the deposition, she followed virtually the same protocol as in the first meeting, but nothing improper occurred.
She entered the Oval Office, talked to the President there briefly about her husband's death and then followed him to a nearby pantry to get a cup of coffee, according to the deposition. It said they then sat and talked in Mr. Clinton's private office, going through the same private hall where Ms. Willey said the President had hugged her, kissed her and then groped her. At a third meeting she described in the deposition, after her White House paying job ended in late 1994, Ms. Willey met again privately with the President in the Oval Office.
Although Ms. Willey said these three meetings were her only ones with the President, the notes released by the White House last week refer to a possible fourth meeting in early 1995.
JUSTUSTROLLS, I think that is what is commonly referred to as a Non-Sequitur. The lack of spine within the ranks of Democrats in no way absolves Bush or Cheney. In other words...you got nothin'.
How blind are you? The Dems are NOT ready to get the criminals. Didn't you know that they are waiting so that CRIMINAL proceedings can be held. Keep trolling with blinders and you will miss the party. And please, keep up the good work. It is people like you, the Marlboro Man and the rest of the flock that show the true face of the Republan Party. You are an asset to the Dems and don't even know it.
Your boy, Rush has you snowed and he keeps rakin' in the dough.
That is ludicrous. The FACT is there are other considerations than guilt when considering impeachment. Reagan WAS guilty of violating the Boland Amendment that was proven. They had his signiture on a piece of paper authorizing just that. He ADMITTED it in a famous speech, but he wasnt impeached. The FACT is Bush AND Cheney LIED flat out lied. On Sept 7 2002 in a joint press conference with Tony Blair when Bush pulled an IAEA report the never existed directly out of his ASS he lied. Flat out lied. When Cheney said the Mohamed Atta meeting with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague was pretty well confirmed THAT WAS A LIE. Actually it had been pretty well debunked by the FBI. I have PROVEN at least a dozen times on this site alone that Bush LIED. Its a plain fact. Why not? Bush lies. Its what he does. He lies like most people breathe, he lied about the cost of the prescription drug benifit he lied about why we WENT into Iraq he lied about who benifitted from his tax cut he lied about when he was last arrested he lied about his former position on policies. He is a LIAR. He lies so much I was suprised when I found out his name really was George. Any of this is easy to find out but lets just take the Sept 7 statement
I would remind you, that when the inspectors were in Iraq when they were finally denied access an IAEA report came out saying Iraq was six months from a (nuclear) weapon. THAT IS A LIE. The IAEA said so the next day, no such report, doesnt exist. The IAEAs actual position in 98 was that they had destroyed Iraqs nuclear program in 91 and had seen no evidence it had been reconstituted. This isnt a mistake of intelligence, this isnt a misinterpretation, its a LIE. If it isnt a lie to make something up to support your position there is no such thing as a lie. Bush is a liar, that is plain fact.
No there isnt there are plenty of delusional fantasies the rightwingnuts have told themselves were true and a lot of hiveminders who were told to believe them. Thats all. Ya got nothin.
"I have to call this one for Wiley!!"
- justicetruthus8276
Yes, because you refuse to pay attention to the historical facts as presented in Wiley's own (conflicting) testimony.
"I have to call this one for Wiley!!" - justicetruthus8276
Did we expect any less from this useless troll??
Maybe if Mrs.WILEY took care of Mister Wileys' willy and had not gone after Slick Willys' willy maybe she wouldn't be an orphan wife. As Rush puts it, WAA WAA WAA.
As the great Bob Wills was known to say,
"Women and children holler, 'Willy Willy!' "
(P.S. An "orphan wife" is called a WIDOW.)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002/03/06/clinton-lewinsky.htm
The report reveals that Kathleen Willey, a former White House volunteer who said Clinton had groped her, "gave false information to the FBI" after being granted immunity. Willey had said that she was pressured by Clinton allies to drop her accusations. But investigators lost confidence in her testimony. Willey criticized the independent counsel for "inexplicably" casting a shadow over her credibility.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/clinton8.html
But Willey's husband fell deeply into debt, a financial crisis that, in fall 1993, was pulling down Kathleen Willey, too. On Nov. 29, 1993, she visited Clinton seeking a full-time White House job to help her family. That same day, her husband committed suicide in a wooded area outside Richmond. [For details, see WP, Jan. 29, 1998]
More than three years later, in April 1997, Willey was still hounded by creditors seeking payment of a $400,000 promissory note she had co-signed. It was then that she decided to go public with her allegation that Clinton had fondled her during their meeting on Nov. 29, 1993. She chose to recount the story to Michael Isikoff, the Paula Jones writer who had moved from The Washington Post to Newsweek. After hearing Willey's Clinton tale, Isikoff asked if she had told anyone at the time, someone who could serve as a corroborating witness. Willey claimed she had informed a friend, Julie Steele. But Willey was lying.
As Isikoff was driving to Steele's house, Willey called Steele and asked her to pretend that she had heard the Clinton-groping story on the evening of Nov. 29, 1993. When Isikoff arrived, Steele lied, "corroborating" that Willey had told her about the Clinton incident within hours after it had occurred. But Steele later recanted her corroboration. "She [Willey] did not come to my house that night," Steele admitted. "I didn't know a thing about this. I never heard that she had been groped by the president until the guy from Newsweek was on his way to my house." [NYT, Jan. 31, 1998]that story is also in the time magazine link i provided above. as well as steele claiming that willey deliberately lied to a boyfriend about being pregnant with twins, as revenge for something the boyfriend did. [both on the first page of the link]
That's why the Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broddrick stories have never gone anywhere. There's no basis to either of them, though the morons on the right keep dragging them up and brain-dead trolls like Justicetruthus lap it up.
Willey: "There's a lot I don't know."
Which means there's a lot she can't prove, which means she has more research to do if she's not satisfied with the ruling on her husband's death. But book deals don't hinge on proof and facts, it's all about the potential bottom line. I'm all for asking questions, but let's have some answers before cashing in on nothing but theory and conjecture about murder.
"I do not know where in the world Ed would have obtained a .38 Special, or whether he had personally purchased the box of bullets that the police recovered in his car."
This woman is genuinely surprised at how easy it is to obtain weapons and ammo in the United States?
Is justicetruthus8276 a troll, or just an idiot?
And is Kathleen Williey really using the CLINOTON DEATH LIST as a resource to back up her claims? That thing was debunked (laughably) in snopes YEARS ago.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
But, while we're at it...
http://web.archive.org/web/20030210060332/www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/index.shtml
Hey - I found it on the internet, so it MUST be true right?
Justice and Truth in the USA - FACT CHECK:
Clarification - my endorsement of Kathlene Wiley was based upon the extremely well documented history of how Bill has attacked numerous women. I cannot vouch for KW's entire story, but on balance I find her more credible than the impeached and disgraced former Prez Bill.
And since everything you've posted here on MMFA has been shown to be false, you have the least credibility of all.
You are a liar. Attacking someone is a crime. There is no such evidence. STOP LYING.
Justatroll,
You have made up my mind, and I'm going to call this one for "idiot."
Still, your posts do a great job of reminding the rest of us why we're here and what's at stake. So, by all means, please keep it up. You are doing the world and this country a ton of good, albeit inadvertantly.
WILLEY: "I know, this is the point where people say, 'Ah, she's nuts.'"
Uhhh, yea...
This is just the tip of the iceberg, folks. You know that the Right Wing Liars have a warehouse stacked to the ceiling with banker's boxes full of crap that they're going to throw at Hillary if she gets the nomination. It will be a virtual Renaissance for Fascist Radio and the Troglodyte publishing industry.
I seriously doubt the Democratic Party's abilitiy to weather the coming sh*tstorm. Fasten your seatbelts...roll up your pants.
And when does Ann Falter weigh in (to the extent she can, of course) about never having seen a wife enjoy and benefit so much from the death of her husband?
The driver's license thing was nothing, the Willey lunacy is the Swiftboating of Hillary Clinton
never forget that Linda Tripp stated she was active in placing Willey where Clinton could see her.Wiley was on the make. Tripp showed her how to dress provocatively.come and get it like monica
Willey was definitely on the make, and Tripp confirmed it during grand jury testimony.
Ahhhhhh, welcome back Mr. Mellonscaiffe!
In September, Willey accused “the Clinton camp” of orchestrating the purported theft of the manuscript for this book from her home. [For more details on this see:] http://mediamatters.org/items/200709080003 According to the NY Daily News [August 29, 2008]: "The timing [of the book release] is intended to hurt Hillary in her Democratic primary campaign, by getting negative stories out there," according to a source.” According to mediamatters.org, she did the same thing before the 2006 elections.Willey’s publishing company is “World Ahead Press”, which calls itself “The West Coast’s Leading Conservative Publisher” http://www.worldaheadpublishing.com/authors/index.php And Willey is associated with the attorney Candice Jackson, the author of “Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine” which is also published by World Ahead Publishing and, according to the publisher “explores the connection between former President Clinton's leftist ideology and his rampant mistreatment of women.” Jackson served as Litigation Counsel at Judicial Watch, which claims Willey’s case as a “Court Victory”. http://www.judicialwatch.org/printer_cvwilley.shtml Judicial Watch also has a page on their website called “Hillary Watch” which states: “[…] And any discussion of Hillary Clinton’s public record begins and ends with her past crimes and corrupt behavior. […]” They have what they call “Corruption Chronicle Entries” since 2005. The Sarah Scaife Foundation is a major funder of Judicial Watch. “Scaife was a primary source of money used to fund attacks against Bill Clinton during the Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky eras of his presidency. He has also been known to purchase mass quantities of conservative books (especially those published by Regnery Press) to push them up the bestseller lists.” Among the right wing ventures he is a major funder of is “a working group within his American Spectator publication called the Arkansas Project, whose specific aim was to locate and create dirt on the Clintons in order to smear them, in hopes of removing Clinton from office.” http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_Mellon_Scaife Read also: “Who Is Richard Mellon Scaife?” [by Brooks Jackson, CNN, 4/27/98] “He's very rich and very partisan, but is he behind an anti-Clinton conspiracy? That's a matter of opinion. But it is a fact this billionaire has spent millions in tax-free money attacking the current occupants of the White House.” http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/27/scaife.profile/
Hannity has begun his very own "crappy book of the week" club. Everytime I run by his show he has some literary giant on talking up garbage like it's fact, Tonite, I stoped watch not one, but two of these shameful excuses for books. Wiley and Bolton ( that's Amabassador Bolton to you) had air time, and Mark Levins' attempt at being human with his dog book was earlier this week.
Publishers should be held liable for publishing books that promote fiction as truth.
They don't have to provide the proof in the tome, but damn....they should have the legal backup for any allegations in cases of Libel.
Willey is a known flake prone to outlandish and outrageous statements that she CANNOT backup with anything remotely like evidence.
I wish to God some of these politicians, actors or business people would get the gumption to sue the ass off the author as well as the publisher. Or that the publisher would have the gumption to market these books as works of fiction or fantasy when the author cannot or will not back up their allegations with legitimate proof.
Just how pathetic is this woman? Like Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, she has nothing else in life aside from the supposed damage that Bill Clinton did to her reputation (whatever that was). Willey lied under oath to her would-be benefactor, Kenneth Starr, and couldn't even keep her story straight about the supposed "harassment" by Clinton. She had written letters to Clinton claiming to be his "number one fan" -- that is, until she realised that she wouldn't be getting an ambassadorship. Her husband committed suicide rather than face punishment for stealing money from his own clients. Her radio talk-show lasted barely a week. You've shot your load, Kathleen -- get a life!
Good read on Willey's past: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/03/23/time/willey.html
"Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton," set for release this week by World Ahead Publishing, WND Books' partner.
This sounds like the wingnut-welfare, pipeline we've heard so much about this week. I'm sure she'll make her .10 cents off of each book as her NY Times best-seller pittance...
sheesh!