On Today, CNBC's Cramer defended his description of Cuomo as a "communist"
On the November 8 edition of NBC's Today, while discussing "the falling stock market" with CNBC host Jim Cramer, co-host Meredith Vieira aired a video clip of Cramer's appearance on the previous day's edition of CNBC's Street Signs, during which he claimed that New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo "is about confiscation" and called him a "communist." Cramer had been criticizing Cuomo in response to news reports that he is issuing subpoenas to government-sponsored lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as part of his investigation into the mortgage industry. After airing the video clip, Vieira asked: "Now, come on. Isn't he [Cuomo] doing his job?" Cramer replied: "No, he's not doing his job. His job -- this is the New York state. This is not the federal government. He is making it so that the very institutions we need right now to provide money for people are gun-shy." When Vieira countered: "But they made a mess. He's investigating that," Cramer* replied: "So go after the CEOs. Don't make the companies feel like it's dangerous to lend. If you're trying to buy a home right now, the last thing you want is Cuomo attacking the people, the companies that make the money available for you to buy a house."
In a November 8 post on the Wall Street Journal's Law Blog, which included a video clip of Cramer's November 7 Street Signs appearance, lead writer Peter Lattman wrote:
If you're going to watch one video clip today, click here and watch this one of Cramer lashing out at Cuomo's investigation into the mortgage industry. Cramer called Cuomo a "communist" who is "going to shut down the mortgage market." "[W]itness the fact that right now, the most important man in America for the stock market -- the most important man and I mean it negatively is this guy Andrew Cuomo, the New York State Attorney General," Cramer said. "I'm getting tired of the New York State Attorney General being the most important man in America."
Cramer never attacked Cuomo's predecessor [New York Gov. Eliot] Spitzer, who was known to probe an industry or two. That's largely because, as Cramer acknowledges in the video clip, the two have a tight friendship, which began as Harvard Law School classmates. Cramer, for the record, never practiced law, instead taking a job at Goldman Sachs straight out of HLS. But he did dip his toe in Big Law waters, according to a Business Week profile, as "a miserable summer intern" at Fried Frank.
From the November 8 edition of NBC's Today:
VIEIRA: And now to the falling stock market: On Wednesday, the Dow fell more than 360 points and the S&P 500 had its biggest daily percentage drop since August. Jim Cramer is host of CNBC's Mad Money. He's normally pretty optimistic -- doesn't like to be Mr. Doom and Gloom -- but today, not good, huh, Jim?
CRAMER: No, there are too many things going wrong: oil at 100; very difficult to get a loan to buy a house; economy slowing; consumer not spending. These are all bad signs for the market.
VIEIRA: Meanwhile, the dollar is dropping as the oil prices are going up.
CRAMER: Yeah, and people can't go overseas -- it's too expensive. There's also a sense when the dollar goes down that it's a judgment about the U.S. economy. The rest of the world doesn't want anything to do with us right now.
VIEIRA: Well, let's talk about the bad news areas. You have three of them, really. Beginning with housing, right? That's number one.
CRAMER: This is a -- this is one of the worst times I've ever seen. Not since 1990 have we made it so difficult for people to be able to go buy a home: you can't get credit; people don't have enough money for a down payment.
VIEIRA: But some of that has to do with these sub-prime mortgages, doesn't it, and the big mess that was made there?
CRAMER: No doubt about it, we made mistakes, we're paying for it now. But there are many people -- there's 1.25 trillion dollars' worth of homes on the market, and no one seems to have the credit to buy them.
VIEIRA: But, look, I want to ask you about the New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, because he's going after the mortgage industry. After he announces that, you went ballistic. Let's take a look at what you had to say about Andrew Cuomo.
[begin video clip]
CRAMER: Witness the fact that, right now, the most important man in America for the stock market, the most important man -- and I mean it negatively -- is this guy, Andrew Cuomo, the New York state attorney general.
ERIN BURNETT (Street Signs host): Right.
CRAMER: I'm getting tired of the New York state attorney general being the most important man in America.
[...]
CRAMER: Cuomo is about confiscation!
BURNETT: I want to get to a --
CRAMER: Genuine communism. The Chinese are capitalists.
BURNETT: OK, I --
CRAMER: We got a communist.
[end video clip]
VIEIRA: Now, come on. Isn't he doing his job? Come on.
CRAMER: No, he's not doing his job. His job -- this is the New York state. This is not the federal government. He is making it so that the very institutions we need right now to provide money for people are gun-shy -- Fannie Mae, Washington Mutual. You don't attack --
VIEIRA: But they made a mess. He's investigating that.
CRAMER: So go after the CEOs. Don't make the companies feel like it's dangerous to lend. If you're trying to buy a home right now, the last thing you want is Cuomo attacking the people, the companies that make the money available for you to buy a house.
VIEIRA: So we're digging ourselves into a deeper hole.
CRAMER: This is all -- the barn door, the horses left. We don't go after these guys; we need more money in the system. We don't want to make bankers gun-shy. That's throwing gasoline on the Kingsfords. You do that, what will happen is, is that they'll be even fewer homes bought.
VIEIRA: All right, silver lining -- silver lining for investors.
CRAMER: All right. This is a moment -- the actual stock market, there are a lot of companies doing well. If home-buying, very bad, retail, very bad, why not put your 401(k) money to work when it looks most grim, that's when the most money's been made. Don't wait until the end of the year to make your contribution. Take advantage of the negativity now and do some long-term buying -- not short-term -- long-term buying.
VIEIRA: Oil as well?
CRAMER: I still like oil. I think oil goes a little bit higher, it is monster. You'll be paying it at the pump. You'll be paying $4 within the next six weeks.
VIEIRA: OK, I think Cuomo's on the phone for you. So, you wanna get it?
CRAMER: Tell him I said, "Hi."
VIEIRA: Jim Cramer, thanks. You can see Mad Money weekdays at 6 and 11 p.m. Eastern time on CNBC.















Just an outright disgusting smear by Cramer. I guess Washington Mutual should be exempt from any crime. Get lost Cramer.
By the way Great job in providing this information MMFA. It explains where Cramer is coming from and how unethical he is. NBC should stop giving him a forum on the today show to spew and smear people.
Cramer never attacked Cuomo's predecessor [New York Gov. Eliot] Spitzer, who was known to probe an industry or two. That's largely because, as Cramer acknowledges in the video clip, the two have a tight friendship, which began as Harvard Law School classmates. Cramer, for the record, never practiced law, instead taking a job at Goldman Sachs straight out of HLS. But he did dip his toe in Big Law waters, according to a Business Week profile, as "a miserable summer intern" at Fried Frank
VIEIRA: Now, come on. Isn't he doing his job? Come on.
CRAMER: No, he's not doing his job. His job -- this is the New York state. This is not the federal government. He is making it so that the very institutions we need right now to provide money for people are gun-shy -- Fannie Mae, Washington Mutual. You don't attack --
VIEIRA: But they made a mess. He's investigating that.
CRAMER: So go after the CEOs. Don't make the companies feel like it's dangerous to lend. If you're trying to buy a home right now, the last thing you want is Cuomo attacking the people, the companies that make the money available for you to buy a house.
Doesn't the Attorney General need EVIDENCE of wrongdoing before he can "go after the CEOs"? Couldn't that be WHY he's investigating Fannie Mae, WaMu, and the others????
Cramer is an idiot.
Isn't a false public accusation of being a communist still a tri-able libel in the U.S.-- even against a politician? I think it is. That's how serious the accusation has always been taken. In many states (California) you can still lose your public employment over it.
But capitalism should have prevented this financial crisis, the industy should have been voluntarily regulating itself. Sadly, we fell for this strategy again. Predatory lenders have run amock, real estate appraisers have colluded and all should be sent to the big house and barred from the industry forever. Go get 'em Cuomo!!
Damn right, Pitt.
Thanks, I have several clients in this business and surprise, surprise the hyper ethical ones are still busy appraising and writing loans, while the ethically challenged are now bartenders. (No smear of bartenders intended)
Exactly. I happen to be an appraiser, and while the market has tanked in the last year, I'm in some ways happy because it's weeded out the criminals who were making my job more difficult.
I don't understand how Cramer gets "Communist", but I agree that the best tactic on this issue is to go after those personally responsible, and institute tougher regulation on the industry. I don't know the extent to which Cuomo is "investigating", but making it over-difficult to get a home loan is not the way to get us back on track.
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Communism is the most evil and disgusting ideology that has ever been created. Honestly, communism came straight from the pit of hell to enslave and destroy mankind.
I'm going to have to side with MMFA on this topic and condemn Cramer for using the sick and twisted term "communism" or "communist".
How nice of you to side with MMFA.
Whew, thank God.
I had an inkling that Cramer was an ignorant jackass, but I needed some sort of press release to let me know for sure. You don't know how much better I'm gonna sleep now!
Seriously, though. I think that anyone who knows anything about the theory of communism would agree that it is not "evil", or from the bowels of hell, or however you put it. It is just monumentally naive, impractical, and unreasonable. That said, the instances where it has gone into practice in recent times has resulted in horrible totalitarian regimes, but I think that is just the practical realization of the naiveté of the theory of communism.
"That said, the instances where it has gone into practice in recent times has resulted in horrible totalitarian regimes, but I think that is just the practical realization of the naiveté of the theory of communism"
I wouldn't have worded it that way. I would have said "it's just the practical realization of how easy it is for the power mad to corrupt communism and turn it into a dictatorship"
There is an inherent naivete in the theory of communisim, but the basic premiss of it can even be found in the New Testament. It doesn't work because not ALL people are "nice" enough.
Not to nitpick, but I think we are saying the same thing. I would say that the naivete of communism lies in its assumption that it will not be exploited by power-mad dictators.
There really isnt any argument that the people of Nicaragua were much better off under the Communist Sandanistas than they had been under the butcher Somoza. As in many cases it is as much a matter of WHO is running the organization as it is how good the organizational principle is.
It's very much that. If you want to compare political systems, there's only a hairs-breadth difference between a PURE communist state and a PURE Democratic state. If fact, at the very heart of them, they aren't even mutually exclusive. You could, for instance, have a democratic communist system.
A pure democracy is one with no leaders...where every citizen votes, every decision is put to a vote, and every vote counts.
Communism, on the other hand, in it's purest form isn't really a political system at all...it's a question of how real goods are handled: everything is owned by everyone. Combine that with a pure democratic political system and the concept of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" comes down to a vote as noted above.
But, as has been pointed out, it only takes a few power hungry individuals to corrupt communism in particular, precisely because individuals under that system have no direct control of anything in real terms...because it's all up to the collective.
Add to that a representative form of government and the opportunity and ability to corrupt it for the few are just about...as has been demonstrated MANY times...well nigh irresistable!
Any political party can become so arrogant that the current leaders believe that a permanent majority is worth any cost.
" It is just monumentally naive, impractical, and unreasonable."Just like libertarianism, or lassez-faire capitalism.
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE INDEPENDENT!!
CRAMER: So go after the CEOs. Don't make the companies feel like it's dangerous to lend.
Is that not the same thing Cramer?
No Bob, it's really not. There's absolutely no loyalty in the CEO market these days...CEO's switch every few years and may have never been in the industry of the company they're about to take over.
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
Is it any suprise that the "experts" want the government to dry up and disapear whenever they want it how they want it, but when they have their way and we all suffer as a result, they are the first screaming why the government isn't bailing them out!!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
Oh, Jim, aren't there some chairs that you can be throwing right now instead of spewing drivel like this?
Dude, get with the program. Commies - out. Islamofascists - in. These oligarchs can't keep there enemies straight.
Multiple enemies = multiple fears = multiple campaign platforms.
What are you talking about? What does any of this have to do with campaigns?
Is accusing someone of being a communist, no, correction, a "genuine" communist, not an attack on their politics?
And when you accuse someone who is a long time Democrat and a former state governor of being a communist on network TV, are you not fueling the rightwing s*** storm and forwarding the conservative agenda?
Pete, regardless of the effect you think Cramer's comments may or may not have, Cramer was referring to an economic communist in regards to Cuomo, not communist in terms of social issues.
Communism is not a form of government it is a type of ECONOMY. So I dont get the distinction you are trying to make.
You made it for me...that Cramer can call someone a communist without it being a political guffaw.
Same as your grammar.
Cuomo is about confiscation!
I lived in NY when his father Mario was Governor. The idea of confiscation runs in the Cuomo family. We all know Andrew's carreer path is to the Governor's house, then on to the White House.
Hey WC.. ;
A favor, stop with the "We all know" phraseology please. If we all knew what ever, why would we need to discuss things? Are you really speaking for any one but yourself?
Thanks for contributing though, it would be boring without different opinions and perspectives.
He is a communist.
Very good, CD, now go collect your 2 cent check from Karl Rove.
Cramer is nothing but a loudmouth blowheard ex hedge fund manager trying to protect his and his buddies wealth. He & the station he is on should be called on his accusation of Cumo being a communist.
Make him squeal like a pig.
Holly funny irony of ironies. I'm not just here to promote my new Jesus image miracle toaster, but I can't resist pointing out the strange likeness in his above pic that Kramer has to the big daddy of all commies Vladimir Lenin. Let's get buzy Photoshop bloggers there's work to be done.
Are we to take seriously the opinion, of some one who doesn't understand what communism is? Surely he had time to think prior to broadcast how he would responnd to possible questions. Just one more talking head trying to divert attention of one of Capitalism's most recent failures, offering no other possible action other than doing nothing
In Seattle Times yesterday a columnist called his "money looney," as opposed to "money honey," of course...
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2004006654_sundaybuzz11.html