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CNN's King reported that Giuliani "supports the constitutional right" to abortion without noting that he said "[i]t would be OK to repeal" Roe v. Wade

November 27, 2007 3:59 pm ET

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During a report on the Republican presidential candidates' views on abortion rights, on the November 26 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, CNN chief national correspondent John King stated that as "a mayoral candidate in 1989 ... [former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani] promised to uphold the constitutional right to an abortion" without mentioning that Giuliani reportedly shifted his position on the abortion issue during the course of his 1989 mayoral campaign, as Media Matters for America has previously documented. Further, at the conclusion of King's report, Situation Room anchor Wolf Blitzer asked King, "[T]he bottom line, John, is he supports abortion rights for women, is that right?" to which King responded, "He does." King went on to assert that Giuliani "says that he supports the constitutional right for a woman to choose an abortion ... he does believe there is that constitutional right." But neither King nor Blitzer reported that Giuliani said during the May 3 Republican presidential debate that "[i]t would be OK to repeal" Roe v. Wade -- the 1973 Supreme Court decision finding that the Constitution protects a women's right to an abortion. Further, neither King nor Blitzer noted -- as Media Matters has repeatedly documented -- that Giuliani has said on several occasions that if elected president, he would appoint "strict constructionist" judges and has specifically "pledge[d] to use ... as model appointments" Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, both of whom have declared their support for overturning Roe.

From the November 26 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

BLITZER: Abortion is a major issue among the Republican candidates, with some facing questions about their views and how they've changed over the years, including the former New York City mayor, Rudy Giuliani. Helping us keep all of the politicians honest is our chief national correspondent, John King.

He's joining us now live from St. Petersburg in Florida. John, how big of an issue is abortion for the Giuliani campaign?

KING: Well, Wolf, you would have to live in a cave to not know that Rudy Giuliani is the only of the leading Republican candidates who says he supports a woman's constitutional right to have an abortion. But the issue, of course, is much more complicated than that.

What about taxpayer funding?

What about parental notification for minors who want to get abortions?

What about so-called late-term or partial-birth abortions?

So we went back over Giuliani's record the past 20 years and, clearly, there is a bit of an evolution.

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KING: From a mayoral candidate in 1989, who promised to uphold the constitutional right to an abortion despite his Catholic upbringing --

GIULIANI: I have religious views and personal views that are contrary to -- to some of these in these areas.

KING: -- to a mayor who offered no such reservations --

GIULIANI: I am pro-choice, I am pro-gay rights.

KING: -- to a presidential candidate who now embraces abortion restrictions he had opposed as mayor.

WHIT AYERS (GOP pollster): I think that Rudy Giuliani's current position makes his pro-choice stance more acceptable to a lot of Republicans -- not all, certainly, but a lot of Republicans.

KING: As mayor, Giuliani supported taxpayer-financed abortions for poor women. He reiterated that support in this 1997 candidate questionnaire and again in this CNN interview seven months ago.

DANA BASH (CNN correspondent): So you support taxpayer money or public funding for abortion in some cases?

GIULIANI: If it would deprive someone of a constitutional right, yes. And if that is the status of the law, then I would, yes.

KING: But a day later, amid a conservative uproar, he rushed to clarify his stance on taxpayer funding.

GIULIANI: I would want to see it decided on a state-by-state basis.

KING: In that 1997 questionnaire, he also opposed restrictions on minors receiving abortions. Now, he says he backs parental notification as long as a judge can waive the requirement in some circumstances. He also has evolved on whether to ban late-term abortion. During the Clinton administration, when Congress tried to outlaw the procedure, Giuliani opposed the legislation.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: But it did. This is Giuliani after an April Supreme Court ruling upholding a ban.

GIULIANI: And I must say Justice [Anthony] Kennedy's opinion convinced me even more that my support for the ban is a correct one.

KING: So if he says now that he has a different position on that legislation, you would think?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I think he owes the American public an explanation of why he's flip-flopped so dramatically.

[end video clip]

KING: Now, Giuliani aides reject and dismiss that flip-flop label. They also say, Wolf, that critics tend to exaggerate what they would call a natural evolution on the issue. They say to the degree and on the specific issues where his emphasis has changed, they say, in part, that is based on his life experience, his moral and religious beliefs. And they also say it is very different being or running for mayor of New York City or dealing with abortion and the questions about abortion that a president -- a ruler of the entire country -- would have to confront -- Wolf.

BLITZER: But the bottom line, John, is he supports abortion rights for women, is that right?

KING: He does. In this campaign, he says that he supports the constitutional right for a woman to choose an abortion, although he has said in this campaign -- and it's something, again, the critics say he never said as mayor, that he personally hates or detests or despises abortion, but he does believe there is that constitutional right, yes.

BLITZER: John King for us.

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    • Author by open_mind (November 27, 2007 4:05 pm ET)
         

      This is just playing Rudy's game.  To one audience, he is pro-choice.  To the other, he paints himself as pro-life.  Whether you belong to one side of the debate or the other, you should probably assume Rudy will side with your opponents when/if he is elected.

      If the abortion debate is your main issue, you probably shouldn't vote for Rudy. Period.

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      • Author by snoopy (November 27, 2007 6:32 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, you won't hear any righty accusing him of flip flopping. Had it been Hillary, they'd be all over it though. Two faced bastards.

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      • Author by the Grey Path (November 28, 2007 2:36 pm ET)
           

        This is the same kind of LYING we got from George W in the 2000 campaign:  Refuse to answer the actual question you're asked ... Answer in code when you do ...  Claim credit for things you had nothing to do with ...

        Bush ran three different businesses ... Into the ground.

        Guiliani was the hero of '9/11' ... Sorry, but any hamster could have mouthed the script "lets go get the bastards that did this." 

        And, let's remember, Rudy did put the NYC emergency command post in the WTC after it had already been bombed.

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      • Author by GlennJericho (November 28, 2007 7:54 pm ET)
           

        Wow.  I am in total agreement (sort-of) with MMFA.  I never thought I'd live to see that day.

        I am a staunch conservative and pro-life advocate and I have to say that when it comes to abortion, I have no faith in Giuliani.  May I echo OPEN_MIND and say:

        If the abortion debate is your main issue, you probably shouldn't vote for Rudy. Period.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 27, 2007 4:16 pm ET)
         

      Nowadays, whenever anyone mentions Rudy Giuliani's name and his stance on a particular issue I ask "Which Rudy Giuliani are we talking about?". Rudy Giuliani has modified his positions on so many things he is barely recognizable as the progressive mayor he appeared to be a number of years ago. John Kerry was trashed as a flip-flopper and his nuanced positions on things were not nearly like the turnarounds Giuliani has so blatantly and opportunistically crafted. Are Republicans really this stupid not to have noticed this...or do they want to win so badly they just don't care?

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (November 27, 2007 4:22 pm ET)
           

        Irony, I think you're unfairly generalizing about Republicans. I'm sure there are many who thoughtfully examine the issues and scrutinize their Repooplickan candidates, and decide to vote based on their strong morals/ values/core beliefs/principles and other invented self-aggrandizing traits.

        Then they're shown a clip of Hillary clapping Chinese-style, and their hand starts jerking at an imaginary lever with an (R) next to it.

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    • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (November 27, 2007 4:20 pm ET)
         

      Judy is a prostitute. He'll say or do anything for anyone as long as he gets elected. Abortion, gun control, gays, Judy's just needs you to tell him what you want him to say.

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      • Author by captfoster2 (November 27, 2007 4:25 pm ET)
           

        Pearlene,

        And on that note.......

        So Rudy was for abortion before he was against it and then was for it again before changing his mind and being against it yet again.......

        All in the name of catering to a fringe few.....

        Yep..... I really do hope that the Republicans are crazy enough to run this fool!

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      • Author by ripper76 (November 28, 2007 12:41 pm ET)
           

        I thought Mrs. Bill Clinton's first name was Hillary, not Judy.

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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (November 28, 2007 4:14 pm ET)
             

          Try "Reading Comprehension 101" .

          The topic is about Judy.

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          • Author by ripper76 (November 28, 2007 5:06 pm ET)
               

            Right. I understand who you're talking about by the description. I just thought Mrs. Clinton's first name was Hillary. And isn't it kind of a low blow to refer to her as "he." Lots of women wear pant suits. 

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (November 27, 2007 4:25 pm ET)
         

      Yep, Giuli is pretty silly when it comes to having a position on social issues. He should just say that you don't need Roe v. Wade in order to prevent the fed gov from legalizing/illegalizing abortion, and that there isn't any mention of abortion in the Constitution anyway.

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    • Author by Sueelldd (November 27, 2007 4:26 pm ET)
         

      I have issues with Rudys position on abortion  to be mayor of the city of NY he had to have a "liberal" opinion on abortion. Now that he is running for President he has to appease the horrible christian right who would not think for a minute to bring us back to the days of the coat hanger. Rudy would let them do it.

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      • Author by BLR (November 27, 2007 4:48 pm ET)
           

        Correction: Rudy will let them THINK he'd do it.  I don't doubt Rudy is more socially liberal than the far-right approach Bush has taken, but where he'd TRULY fall is anyone's guess.  Rudy's tossing the bones, a sharlatan who reads his audience and feeds them whatever he thinks they want to hear.  He's been doing it so long, it's impossible to see where Mrs. 9/11 will end up if elected.

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        • Author by IowaDem (November 28, 2007 1:27 pm ET)
             

          I would go a step further and say it is the Republicans in general that have fed this line of crap to their constituents while doing absolutely nothing about it.  When they had the majority in both house and the Bush in the WH, why did they not simply outlaw it?  Roe v. Wade becomes moot. 

          No, as long as this issue remains undecided, it remains a wege issue they can run on and win.  The day they outlaw abortions and people see the human cost and suffering because of it, is the day they lose this argument forever and always.

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    • Author by steve k (November 27, 2007 9:19 pm ET)
         

      Principles, or even strongly professed beliefs, are for lesser men. A great man like Giuliani laughs at such human foibles.

      Giuliani doesn't care about abortion, or health care, or anything else the people of America care about. He cares only for two things: using naked force on the backs of the defenseless, and lining his own pockets. Everything else is just something to sell to the public so that he can get elected.

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