Fox & Friends First claimed that Clinton "allegedly planted question" at GOP debate without noting denials
SUMMARY: On Fox & Friends First, Alisyn Camerota teased a report by stating, "Details on another alleged planted question by the Clinton camp at last night's [CNN/YouTube Republican] debate," referring to a questioner at the debate, retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, a member of committees associated with Hillary Clinton's campaign. During a discussion of Kerr's involvement in the debate, on-screen captions read: "HILLARY'S STAND-IN: CLINTON PLANTS STAFFER AT DEBATE" and "PLANT MEDIA: GOP YOUTUBE DEBATE." But several hours earlier -- unmentioned on Fox & Friends First -- Fox News political field producer Jake Gibson reported online that Kerr told him that Kerr "was not contacted by the Clinton campaign to do this," had appeared at the debate without the prior knowledge of the campaign, and did not work for the Clinton campaign. Gibson added that Kerr's answer "seems genuine."
During the November 29 edition of Fox & Friends First, co-host Alisyn Camerota teased a report by stating, "All right, coming up, another blunder by CNN. Details on another alleged planted question by the [Sen. Hillary] Clinton camp at last night's [CNN/YouTube Republican] debate," referring to a questioner, retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr, a member of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Americans for Hillary Clinton steering committee and a co-chairman of Clinton's Veterans and Military Retirees for Hillary Committee. Earlier in the show, during a discussion of Kerr's involvement in the debate, on-screen captions read: "HILLARY'S STAND-IN: CLINTON PLANTS STAFFER AT DEBATE" and "PLANT MEDIA: GOP YOUTUBE DEBATE." At no point during the show did anyone note that several hours earlier, Fox News political field producer Jake Gibson had reported that Kerr told him that Kerr "was not contacted by the Clinton campaign to do this," had appeared at the debate without the prior knowledge of the campaign, and did not work for the Clinton campaign. Further, Gibson reported that Kerr told CNN that "he's done no work for the Clinton campaign" and that the Clinton campaign stated that Kerr "is not a campaign employee and was not acting on behalf of the campaign."
Gibson's video report on Kerr's statement was posted on November 29 at 1:18 a.m. ET on Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron's blog, Cameron's Corner. Gibson reported that he had just spoken with Kerr and that Kerr "seems genuine that he ... was not contacted by the Clinton campaign to do this." Gibson also reported:
GIBSON: [Kerr] is a Clinton supporter, he receives e-mails from them, he's on a couple of lists -- gay veterans for Clinton, veterans for Clinton. He's been invited to a fundraiser in San Francisco and has told them he probably will attend. He could give some token amount like $100 but as of yet has given no contribution. He is, however, on the Clinton steering committee for gay and lesbian issues.
The same blog entry also included a statement from the Clinton campaign denying that Kerr was working on behalf of the campaign:
CLINTON CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL @ 1:17 AM
'HE IS NOT A CAMPAIGN EMPLOYEE AND WAS NOT ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE CAMPAIGN.'
Also, during the Fox & Friends First segment discussing the incident, co-host Brian Kilmeade repeated the allegation that Wolf Blitzer, host of the November 15 Democratic presidential debate, was "warned evidently that he should be easier on her and not to target her," echoing an anonymously sourced blurb posted on the Drudge Report website November 13. But like several other members of the media, Kilmeade did not note that Blitzer has denied that report. As Media Matters for America has noted, Blitzer said on CNN's The Situation Room, "No one has pressured me. No one has threatened me. No one is trying to intimidate me. ... No one has even called me to try to pressure me or anything like that. ... I have not felt any pressure whatsoever."
From the November 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First:
DOOCY: Last night, CNN had the YouTube debates on their air. Now, you would think that after the last time CNN did a debate where they took so much flak because there was actually a 2003 Arkansas state Democrat [sic] Party member in the audience who asked a question, you would think that they would vet their questioners. Not the case. We've got some video of a man by the name of Keith Kerr. He -- revealed as gay -- a retired U.S. army colonel and a brigadier general in the California national reserve. He was asking a question about don't ask, don't tell. Well, as it turns out, he's working on the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign.
CAMEROTA: Yeah, he didn't mention that part.
DOOCY: And CNN didn't even apparently ask him if he had political ties.
KILMEADE: And he had it -- all the candidates had to respond to this: Do you agree with the don't ask, don't tell? He's also part of a -- he's part of a steering committee -- with the gay and lesbian steering committee for Hillary Clinton. Says he hasn't given any money to her, but that should have been apparent. Plus, Steve, you mentioned vetting. This is the ultimate vetting. They had to look through thousands of videos of submissions of questions --
DOOCY: Sure.
KILMEADE: -- and decide, is there going to be a snowman involved here?
DOOCY: Right.
CAMEROTA: Right.
KILMEADE: How are they going to be criticized? And how widespread are the questions going to be.
CAMEROTA: You know, I didn't watch the debate. So they got the YouTube videos in earlier. This wasn't live.
DOOCY: Five thousand. Five thousand videos came in, and they selected this guy to run his video. Not only did they run his video, but they also flew him in at CNN's expense, and they never vetted his background. Anyway, by the end of the show, [CNN host] Anderson Cooper -- who, by the way, did a terrible job hosting the event -- Anderson Cooper --
CAMEROTA: I don't see that in my notes.
DOOCY: Well, you didn't see it -- you didn't see the event. Anderson Cooper had to do some 'splaining for CNN. Listen to this.
COOPER [video clip]: Brigadier General Keith Kerr, who asked a question about gays in the military during this debate, was on a steering committee for Sen. Hillary Clinton. That was certainly something unknown to us, and had we known that, would have been disclosed by us. It turns out -- we have just looked at it -- apparently there was a press release from some six months ago. Hillary Clinton office saying he had been named to some steering committee. We don't know if he's still on it. We're trying to find out that information. But certainly had we had that information, we would have acknowledged that in using his question, if we had used it at all.
KILMEADE: The thing is, there's a bit of a pattern here. Remember the last debate after Hillary Clinton was really knocked to the floor verbally by her counterparts? Then all of a sudden CNN gets the debate. Wolf Blitzer is the moderator and was warned evidently that he should be easier on her and not to target her. And then all of a sudden, she had a pro-Hillary crowd there last week, and then this happens this week.
DOOCY: But here's the extraordinary thing about this big mistake that CNN made: CNN hosted it with YouTube, right? YouTube is owned by Google. Had they simply Googled the man's name, this press release from six months ago that he's on this Hillary Rodham steering committee would have popped up. But they didn't even Google the guest.
CAMEROTA: Interesting. Well, they've now said that they're -- I also like that Anderson Cooper says, "We're looking into it. We're trying to find out."
KILMEADE: He's, "our best people are on it."
CAMEROTA: Why don't you ask him? Let's just ask him.
KILMEADE: Yeah. He's actually in the audience.
CAMEROTA: He's right there. Let's ask him.
KILMEADE: He's staying at the Four Seasons.
DOOCY: During the actual program, they were receiving word from one of the questioners and -- one of the people on the panel. Bill Bennett said, "Hey, I'm getting email from friends who say that guy works for Hillary Clinton." So, CNN didn't figure it out. One of the guys on the panel, Bill Bennett, figured it out because his friends were emailing him.
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CAMEROTA: All right, coming up, another blunder by CNN. Details on another alleged planted question by the Clinton camp at last night's debate.
KILMEADE: Who put you up to that tease?
From the video posted on Cameron's Corner:
GIBSON: So we spoke with the Brigadier General Kerr, who had the question about gays in the military in the CNN debate and has turned out to be a huge blunder for them because it turns out he's a Clinton supporter. He says CNN never asked him if he was a Clinton supporter, so he never told. He is a Clinton supporter. He receives emails from them, he's on a couple of lists -- gay veterans for Clinton, veterans for Clinton. He's been invited to a fundraiser in San Francisco and has told them he probably will attend. He could give some token amount like $100 but as of yet has given no contribution. He is, however, on the Clinton steering committee for gay and lesbian issues. He submitted the question a couple of months ago, and last CNN -- just last CNN -- just last Saturday, CNN called him and said they'd like him to come to the debate. They paid for his flight, they paid for his hotel, his transportation to and from the event. Historically, he'd been a Log Cabin Republican for a long time and recently changed in California from a Republican to no preference or an independent. He says he was Republican for a long time but that these guys are just too partisanly homophobic. The general does seem genuine; that he didn't think this would embarrass CNN. He seems genuine that he didn't -- was not contacted by the Clinton campaign to do this. Unfortunately for CNN, genuine or not, it's still a major gaffe for them, and you know, oh well, bummer.















FOX and Friends making things up again.
Yes they are . This is something that they are known for
It's working too. One of my conservative buddies sent me an email about an hour ago absolutely frothing about this. It was so absurd, I didn't even know how (or bother) to respond.
I'm inclined to say "who cares?" What - They can't answer a reasonable question from the opposition? Just softball tosses from likely republican voters? How do you learn anything from these guys if they aren't challeneged a little?
Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check:
The Clintons are really, really good at denials, aren't they?
Have fa?
Sorry, have facts to back this up?Or is this a one line smear?
JT,
All politicians are great at the denial thing.... not just the Clintons.....
Where the Clintons may be great at denying..... the Bush regime has made it into an Olympic Sport!
Got evidence they are lying? No? Thats what I thought.
JustUsTrolls in the USA - fact check:
The GOP's Flying Monkeys are really good at making sh*t up, aren't they?
COPIOUS.....
For curiosity's sake I went and took a look at your little blog.......
Your latest thread has something to do with MMFA and this specific thread here......
One particular line that caught my eye was:
"I was not able to find a single link all morning, even though Joe Scarborough and the "Morning Joe" team lashed out at CNN. Where is it? Why are they not reporting this? Why is this not their number one story?"
First..... while I can understand what it is you are trying to say (as it pertains to Joe "at least" lashing out at CNN)..... but the rest of what you say tells me all I need to know about the uselessness of your blog and your opinions.....
You equate MSNBC's not linking to this supposed story as somehow proof that they are either in Hillary's pocket or untrustworthy as a news source.....
Then you go on to ask "Why isn't this their number one story?" Are you frickin kidding me??
I seem to recall being told by the Bush regime that we have the fight for our very lives being fought over in Iraq and Afghanistan.....
Between 3-12 soldiers/marines dying everyday and hundreds of innocent Iraqi/Afghan civilians dying everyday (I don't suppose that you can find it in yourself to remember that they are dying over here.....yet I don't see any of it on FOX Noise.....hmmm)
In war.... real people die, it isn't a video game! The hate that many of the world's people have for us is real because of puppets like yourself, you gleefully ignore the real horrors of it and then slam liberals for trying to wake your ass up!
And yet you somehow find yourself believing that a supposed 'planted' question from the Hillary camp should be front page or a top news story?
You new breed of conservatives that are taking your Republican Party into the sewer have got your priorities all out of whack!!
But please keep coming in here on this site and keep spewing your garbage and your senseless logic..... it only helps to reinforce to many of us here that the right-wing sliver of this country are out of their damn minds, false patriots and the real un-Americans!
I don't know why they even talked to the guy if they're going to run a story like this despite his denials.
Gibson say that he believed that Kerr's answer seemed genuine......
That was then...... tonight or perhaps tomorrow he will deny that he said this and go on to claim that it was all a set up by the Clinton campaign.....
FOX Noise at its best!
Why is this a "plant"? Isn't a plant someone who is placed among the audience to HELP someone on stage?
This is almost as dumb as the debate itself. Rarely have I seen such a sorry group of knuckledraggers.
And besides...weren't these questions pre-screened? If the moderators let a question get through that makes the Troglodytes' heads explode...whose fault is that?
MMFA,
How much did Hillary Clinton pay you for this one. The man is on her Staff.
He was also interviewed on CNN in 2004. They knew who he was. They flew him in. They allowed the Plant.
Hillary knew this happened. End of story.
Logical fallacy
Really...okay, let's accept arguendo that everything you said is true:
You just declared that Hillary is so incompetent that she never knows anything about what is taking place with her campaign. So why is she qualified to be President??
Another fallacy, but that's all you're good for, right?
Just because Senator Clinton doesn't know one thing that happens, by one person, who is on one of her numerous committees ... she doesn't know anything that's going on in her campaign? Bzzzzzzzt ... we have a lovely parting gift for you.
Also, I don't know how you got all that out of "logical fallacy." Can someone show me how those two words translate into "You just declared that Hillary is so incompetent that she never knows anything about what is taking place with her campaign."
Anagrams maybe?
perhaps if we translate it into Serbian, then into Chinese, then back to English, "logical fallacy" will turn out to be what you say it is.
Not until you translated it into Wingnutese
aah, I forgot Wingnutese...that would be important
I blew the dust off of my old, trusty English-to-Wingnutese dictionary. It turns out the Wingnutese word for logical fallacy strangely enough is mega-dittoes.
By your logic, Bush should be President. He should have been sentenced to the same term as Libby.
(should NOT be...)
Copious: Did you apply the same rigorois standard to the conservatives biggest hero--Ronald Reagan? He testified at Iran Contra that he had no idea whatsoever about anything that was going on in the arms for hostage negotaiations, which was either a complete lie or an admission of stunning incompetence. I do not remember conservatives caring one bit either way. Surely conservatives like you would never be guilty of applying a double standard, right?
And, then on top of that, you have no clue what a logical fallacy means.
He works for her campaign; he was flown in; CNN interviewed him in 2004; now out of 5000 videos this one video got picked; Hillary Claims she knew nothing; CNN denies everything.
You're living in a dream world
A fallacy is a component of an argument that is demonstrably flawed in its logic or form, thus rendering the argument invalid in whole. In logical arguments, fallacies are either formal or informal. Because the validity of a deductive argument depends on its form, a formal fallacy is a deductive argument that has an invalid form, whereas an informal fallacy is any other invalid mode of reasoning whose flaw is not in the form of the argument.
Yours is a fallacy of false cause
Dear Copious Dysentery,
Do you think that CNN might have thought,, that a gay man, who had served his country honorably, had a right to ask the candidates most opposed to gays in the military to express their feelings on gays in the military?
Maybe they felt like they had to balance the regressive idiocy of that plant Grover Norquist.
CopiousIdiot has amazing psychic abilities. End of fallacy.
copious,
Lets say for the sake of argument that the Hillary camp planned this entire thing....... since this is a Republican debate and CNN (not exactly a bastion of liberalism) allowed it to be aired......
I don't see how you can even attempt to make a claim that Hillary is in any way incompetent, even based on what the other poster said......
If anyone is incompetent it is either CNN for not stopping it or the Republican party for not being able too!
Besides..... we all know that the right-wing media is just drooling for Hillary to be the candidate......
We ain't seen nothing yet with the Bush regime not doing much good..... if Hillary's the next prez she will get so little done because the 'new' media won't let her.
It will be 24/7 of Bill and the BJ, Willey, Flowers, Tripp, and Vince Foster until we all end up puking from it!
Obviously Copious did not read the part about Mr. Kerr being a LOG CABIN REPUBLICAN for many years and is now unregistered because the republicans will take thier money and votes... and then denounce gay and lesbian rights. We serve just as honorably and proud as "straights" in the military ...For many years.
$6.49.
But Compliantconsent is not alone.this blogger has trouble communicating as well. And an equally fascinating blog.
Copey D., by your definition, how many people do you think are on Hillary's "staff"?
You've gotta do better than this.
You have some evidence he is on her staff or did you pull this like most of the nonsense you spew here out of your ass?
I don't support Hillary but when it comes to kicking the repugs in the nads she has my undying support. Lets make repugs extinct....
I couldn't determine the " debate ' part of the " Republican debate ". Did Giulliani actually create 640000 jobs ? I am sure we are going to hear more factchecks on what was said last night.
Wingnuts have their own special version of Occam's Razor. Theirs says that any explanation for a phenomena that includes a Clinton, no matter how convoluted, must be the truth.
Try this. Kerr is obviously a very passionate and involved advocate for the cause of gays in the military. That alone would be enough to motivate him to try and put his question into the Republican debate. His work for the Hillary campaign shows that he is behind her so he is also motivated to attempt to make the Republican candidates look bad. He didn't need to be ordered or paid by anyone to do this, it is obviously something he would do on his own.
Now for CNN. As TV entertainers before they are journalists, just like all the other cable networks, they love to pair up a question with a visdual and a backstory that complement it. Kerr is a nice juicy bit of TV for them with his question, it's an easy choice for the producer to get him on the set. Where they screwed up is not vetting Kerr's history to discover that his history also makes him a controversial choice to be on the set.
No conspiracy necessary, just a determined activist and the logic of television production.
Moonbat, could you lend Copiousdumbf*ck 1/10 of your brain? Why is logical thought so difficult for the zombie types?
Well said, Moonbat. This has all the earmarks of another Flying Monkey Manufactured Outrage. Wasn't it just a couple of weeks ago that they were hyperventilating because Democratic "operatives" infiltrated the Democratic debates?
Apparently, no politically active Democrats are allowed to participate in ANY debates.
for a phenomena that makes Clinton look bad anyway
I assumed a lot of the questions being asked were from the opposition... is this news??? Good God.
Republicans have to distract you from how horrible they were at the debate by complaining about Clinton so you forget how horrible they were and only think of Clinton.
Take a look.
The Fox News fools have no proof of plants. If they want to talk about dirty news organizations, let's talk about Fox News Channel's slanted stories that favor the GOP and Bush Administration. Or special favoritism to Rudy Giuliani by Fox News Senile Bossman Roger Ailes (they are close friends). How about the "ban" of Ron Paul on Fox News. Don't hear his name pop up on this fraudulent news network. Fox News suites hate this guy, especially Silly Sean. He can't stand him and won't let him on his shows.
Now some of you will say "Where's the proof?" The proof is right in front of you. Keep track on the number of times Giuliani is on, and keep track of how many times the other candidates appear on Fox News.
Yes, CNN made a mistake, but compare it to Fox News, it's a minor mistake.
So the litmus test on whether the general's question was a plant (or some other type of planned event) is the word of the HRC camp? Really?
The republicans are in trouble if they can't answer a question from someone who doesn't support them...no way that they'll cause demorcatic voters to even consider a republican candidate.
As was asked several times on different shows yesterday, if they can't handle a question from a democrat, how are they going to be able to face a hostile country?