Beck invoked purported "reconquista" movement in discussion of rioting in France
SUMMARY: In discussing recent riots in Paris suburbs
with
guest
Steve Emerson, Glenn
Beck likened the rioting there to the purported situation in the American
Southwest, where "[y]ou've got people coming here that have no intention of
being Americans. They say, you know, 'Hey, this is our land. We deserve it
back.'" Beck's question
invoked the "reconquista"
concept initially spread by a "vitriolic Mexican-basher" and perpetuated by some
conservatives, including Michelle Malkin and Pat
Buchanan.
On the November 28 edition of his CNN Headline News show, Glenn Beck discussed recent riots in Paris following the death of two teenagers after their motorbike collided with a police car with guest and "terrorism expert" Steve Emerson, director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism and author of Jihad Incorporated: A Guide to Militant Islam in the US (Prometheus Books, 2006), and Sally McNamara, senior policy analyst in European affairs at the Heritage Foundation. Responding to McNamara's statement that "this area [of the suburbs where the riots took place] is considered a no-go area, not just for [French President Nicolas] Sarkozy, but for the police," Beck asked Emerson: "But what about the American Southwest? You've got people coming here that have no intention of being Americans. They say, you know, 'Hey, this is our land. We deserve it back.' " Aren't we setting ourselves up with just our immigration problem or our illegal immigration problem in the Southwest?" Emerson agreed with Beck, adding: "Those that are coming over here and saying, 'This is our land' or 'We have no intention of adhering to any loyalty to the U.S.' are exactly replicating the same type of self-imposed alienation that the French youth are imposing upon themselves in divorcing themselves from any loyalty to French society."
Beck's reference to immigrants to the American Southwest who believe that they "deserve" the land back is an invocation of the "reconquista" concept perpetuated by some conservatives, including columnist Michelle Malkin and MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan. As Media Matters for America has noted, reconquista is a term associated with El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán, the founding document of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, or MEChA), a group with affiliates at numerous college campuses and several high schools that claims to work toward "improving the social and political situation of the Chicano/Latino community." Critics claim that El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán outlines a plan of recapturing the southwestern United States for Mexico. But as a July 3 Cybercast News Service article noted, "according to observers on the left and the right, the modern MEChA movement is run by college students and focuses mainly on encouraging Latino high school students to go to college and the retention of Latino students already enrolled in universities." Further, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the person "who may have done more than anyone to spread the myth of a secret Mexican conspiracy to reconquer the Southwest" is Glenn Spencer, a "vitriolic Mexican-basher" who has "more or less openly court[ed] white supremacists and anti-Semites."
While introducing the discussion in his "The Point" segment, Beck claimed, "I'm just looking at this list here that we have -- youths, we have teenagers, young people, adolescents, young adults, juniors, youngsters, younguns, and tweens. I think I've read every single one of those in news stories as the media-implemented, full-fledged PC gymnastics to try to avoid describing the rioters in France by any other characteristic other than their age." He continued: "If you dig far enough, you will note that the rioters were mostly poor minorities, OK? Baltimore Sun went a step further, they said they were Black Muslim kids." In contrast to Beck's assertion that "the media" have described the rioters only by their age, a November 28 Los Angeles Times article reported:
Raymonde Le Texier, the senator who represents the area in Parliament and has lived here 40 years, describes pent-up rage by black and Muslim children of immigrants who feel lost and abandoned in the projects.
"People feel forgotten by those in power," says Le Texier, a member of the Socialist Party. "It's the truth -- they have been forgotten."
As for the kids, they speak without words.
Beck, McNamara and Emerson concluded with a discussion of multiculturalism in Europe and the United States. During that segment, Emerson asserted:
EMERSON: Well, look, the fact is that multiculturalism has essentially taken the morality out of any culture, so that our democratic culture, our values of pluralism, of separation of church and state, of the democracy that -- of the great values that come from democracy, basically, they're stricken of any moral compass because of the relativity in which we treat other cultures that may actually have values that aren't very, very enlightening.
For example, the fact that there are groups in the United States that support Hamas or Hezbollah or Islamic Jihad or Al Qaeda, that is inconsistent with American values, and yet, according to multiculturalism on campus, they're to be respected and to be valued just as much as Westerners are.
Finally, Emerson baselessly asserted that "if we can't label the enemy ... as radical Islamic fundamentalism, we've lost the battle."
As Media Matters has noted, Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting has documented Emerson's history of peddling misinformation, adding that his "priority is not so much news as it is an unrelenting attack against Arabs and Muslims."
From the November 28 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck:
BECK: Well, hello, America. I'm just looking at this list here that we have -- youths, we have teenagers, young people, adolescents, young adults, juniors, youngsters, younguns, and tweens. I think I've read every single one of those in news stories as the media-implemented, full-fledged PC gymnastics to try to avoid describing the rioters in France by any other characteristic other than their age.
Well, before the newly elected French president, Nicolas Sarkozy -- he had another word that he used to describe the rioters when they started burning cars and going after police the last time the riots flared up in Paris. Let me see if I can remember that word. It was -- oh, yeah: scum.
Here's "The Point" tonight: Sarkozy was right. And here's how I got there.
What other word can you use to describe people who injured about 120 police officers who were just trying to calm the violence? Dozens of cops were wounded by buckshot on Monday night, and widespread arson soon spread around impoverished suburbs of Paris. Flaming cars were being crashed into buildings in an attempt to burn them down. A preschool and a train station were attacked. The head of the police union said, "We're not talking about urban violence; we're talking about insurrection."
But who is responsible for all of these riots? Calmed only by police after they were forced into an almost military-style operation. Well, if you read most of the media reports, we know that they were young -- but that's about it.
If you dig far enough, you will note that the rioters were mostly poor minorities, OK? Baltimore Sun went a step further, they said they were Black Muslim kids. Well, that might not be unimportant in and of itself, but here's what is.
When you try to walk this PC line, you don't talk about what is really happening. And we are never going to solve a damn thing on this planet if we can't be honest with each other.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Immigrants are vital, not only to France; they're vital to America. They're vital to any free society. But just as vital is having people that come to your country come here because they love it or they want to be a part of making it better. Go to France because you want to be French.
The problem with the French is that so many immigrants are coming there that don't want to be French. I mean, don't get me wrong. I understand that, but I ain't moving to France. They never assimilate. They wind up separating themselves from society.
The Baltimore Sun describes the area of the riots as a world apart, with its own codes and subculture. The AP describes it as largely isolated from the rest of society. And Sarkozy, they said, is quote, "unwelcome" in the projects. Really? Isn't he the president of the country?
So here's what you need to know tonight. Now that you know, America, the path that France is on, if we don't identify and solve these problems here at home, we will not be far behind.
I'm joined now by Sally McNamara, she is a European affairs and policy expert at the Heritage Foundation, and Steve Emerson, the director of the Investigative Project on Terror.
Let me start with -- let me start with you, Sally. First of all, tell me who these guys are, and let's drop all the political bullcrap. Who are these guys, and what's causing this problem?
SALLY McNAMARA (Heritage Foundation senior policy analyst): Well, the violence and rioting in France is overwhelmingly in the suburbs, which are -- which is where the immigrants and the Muslim population lives. I don't think they are Muslim riots or immigrant riots. They reflect a wider social and economic problem. But yes, it is largely the immigrant population, where there are problems in France.
The main problem is that this area is considered a no-go area, not just for Sarkozy but for the police. We cannot have areas in any democratic republic which are no-go, which the police are not allowed to go into. That is completely unacceptable.
BECK: Steve, we're setting this up here in America, are we not?
EMERSON: Well, and potentially, Glenn, because, in fact, if you look 10 years down the line, if the same immigration patterns occur and the same type of Muslim immigrant who doesn't feel any type of loyalty to the host country continues to settle here, the potential is for either terrorism or riots.
BECK: All right, well -- let me take this out, Steve. I don't think it's just a Muslim problem. I mean, Europe is on the brink, and we'll get to that here in a second. But it's not just a Muslim problem. We do have those subcultures here in America that are isolating themselves.
But what about the American Southwest? You've got people coming here that have no intention of being Americans. They say, you know, "Hey, this is our land. We deserve it back."
Aren't we setting ourselves up with just our immigration problem or our illegal immigration problem in the Southwest?
EMERSON: Well, I think you're right in that respect. Those that are coming over here and saying, "This is our land" or "We have no intention of adhering to any loyalty to the U.S." are exactly replicating the same type of self-imposed alienation that the French youth are imposing upon themselves in divorcing themselves from any loyalty to French society.
BECK: OK. Sally, let me come back to you. And I'd actually like, Steve, you to answer the same question. How on the edge is Europe? I just read a report. I think it was a Dutch report that says the Dutch are fleeing. And the old population, the traditional Dutch, gone. And it is -- they are abandoning these cities and they are abandoning these countries and moving away, because they're losing their culture and everything else.
McNAMARA: There is a massive problem in Europe, and Amsterdam is projected to be a majority Muslim city within about two decades. It's actually projected. And that is a massive problem, because Europe doesn't know what to do about its immigrants.
However, with America, you actually have a great model here for legal immigration. People come here, and they love the American dream. They feel they have access to entrepreneurialship. They feel they have access to the American dream and social mobility, and they can get up the ladder of success.
However, that is, they are one nation under God. They are American. Whereas in Europe what we have is we have this banner of cultural diversity, of multiculturalism, of assimilation.
However, what it isn't is French or British. We don't know what it is to be a nation anymore, because we've replaced it with this chronic political correctness. And we need to go back to reasserting non-negotiable values of democracy and rule of law and the things we believe in.
BECK: I mean, Steve, you know, one of the things that kills me about America that people don't understand is we don't have an awful lot in common. We all come from different backgrounds, different heritage, et cetera, et cetera. We all have -- we all at some point, our families came here to be an American.
The only thing that ties us together: language, common history, common goals or beliefs that everyone can make it, and what we're doing is we have -- we've wasted all of this stuff. We've blown it all out of the water.
EMERSON: Well, look, the fact is that multiculturalism has essentially taken the morality out of any culture, so that our democratic culture, our values of pluralism, of separation of church and state, of the democracy that -- of the great values that come from democracy, basically, they're stricken of any moral compass because of the relativity in which we treat other cultures that may actually have values that aren't very, very enlightening.
For example, the fact that there are groups in the United States that support Hamas or Hezbollah or Islamic Jihad or Al Qaeda, that is inconsistent with American values, and yet, according to multiculturalism on campus, they're to be respected and to be valued just as much as Westerners are.
BECK: Steve, how are we expected to solve anything? How is France expected to solve anything, if their newspapers won't identify people other than "youths"? How is Sarkozy going to solve anything? Has he come out as strong as he did the last time and say, "These guys are scum"?
EMERSON: He has not yet come out as strongly, but he has sent in 1,000 extra police officers, particularly because now the French Intifada, they're now using shotguns besides rocks and, you know, fire bombs.
Here in the United States, if we can't label the enemy among several, but one of the most principal and threatening enemies as radical Islamic fundamentalism, we've lost the battle, Glenn. We can't possibly win it. Until we can designate them for who they are, we've lost it.
BECK: OK. Steve, Sally, thank you very much.















Beck is a Dick. The story that intertwines the rioters is poverty and geographic isolation.
Are you suggesting that "poverty" and "geographic isolation" are the ONLY distinguishing factor to describe these "rioters"?
Isn't there some other factor?
Yeah, it's racism. The french have republicans too.
Naturally. Because that is exactly what I wrote. Not.
If you don't understand the difference between a unifying theme in a complex tangle of problems and the kind of single factor, direct cause Beck is asserting, then I suggest you sit this one out.
I have to call this one forRoundhouse.
"Dozens of cops were wounded by buckshot on Monday night"
Hmmm....... I didn't realize that Dick Cheney was in France Monday night??
Good catch Capt.
Maybe it was Bobby Knight.
I suppose if the same tactics and morality involved with the Iberian reconquista are used, its a problem. I'm unsure how the conditions of that 750 year long conflict can be seriously applied to the S.W. US and A. Somehow I don't see the evangelicals realistically standing in for the Moorish population of Iberia. There are no royal(sic) families loudly telling the world by statements or actions of their intent to take back what is theorectically, their homeland (Andalusia SW?) from the infidels.
As an example of continued race baiting. Prime and on the hoof.
Western Europe's indignious population is not replacing itself. There are some great housing deals in France. Energy ain't cheap though.
I don't see anything positive in macho posturing. Saying we can't deal with the situation, means you don't want to really find a mutually acceptable compromise. Easliy leads to all kinds of pain and death. No sustainable democratic society can emerge from these actions. Talking and straight dealing with people openly and transparently would be my choice. It can produce good coherent societies, despite the mixing of many cultures into the situation.
Hmmm. The facts on Glenn Beck:
New $50M 3-year contract
Book is #1 NYT bestseller
HNN show ratings are up
Yeah...this Beck guy is a real idiot
ratings, money do not equal genius. that would make rush a rhodes scholar, which he is not. a silly juvenile argument.
Ratings are the most democratic form of political opinion.
You Progressives have taken over the Democratic Party and turned it into a bunch of Communists.
No more liberals in America anymore.
Well mr. conundrum, ratings are about as effective as polls determining the will of the people. And I'd sure rather be called a communist by the likes of you, considering y'all are a bunch of nazi thugs who want one party rule, want to kill anyone who doesn't agree with you and love the idea of sending political prisoners off to death camps. Your party is gonna die a hard death long before the democratic party, because we are for the people, you are for yourself. As T.O. says, "I love me some me".
"...want to kill anyone who doesn't agree with you..." Snoopy
Now that's rich. Which conservative wants to 'kill' anyone who doesn't agree with them?
Look carefully...It's the LEFT that shouts downs and disrupts speeches by conservatives. The liberal LEFT is the new Big Brother. The LEFT has become very intolerant. Look at any college campus.
Oh please lets seen Ann Coulter wants to beat liberals with baseball bats and the Weinerdog wants to kill one hundred million Muslims. BUSH is wiretapping Americans without warrants and says he can put American citizens in jail and NEVER bring them to trial but its the left that is Big Brother. If projection is a sign or emotional distress you need help FAST.
I went to both college and graduate school. In both cases (different schools, differetn regions) I found a wide variety of opinions being expressed, from far left to far right. From atheist/agnostic to uber-christian. Facist to libertarian. You name it. Some of the debates are heated, sure, and there are occasional protests. But there is none of the violent intolerance that you people speak of. It's a myth. (And a patently silly one.) Just like the liberal media myth. You say these things and I wonder "Did you even GO to college?"
You people equate the demand for tolerance and of insuring that all people have a say with intolerance. It's mindboggling. And it's un-American.
SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!
Beck thinks French immigrants from the Algiers, and their African continent's refuge from centuries of colonialism are SCUM.
I know that many of the people in the slums of France have come as a result of the isolation created from being a French ally during the break up of their colonial nations. They were assured French citizenship, and to become Frenchmen/women when the came and their offspring should be given the same assurances, but clearly aren't.
So, they have millions of disenfranchised immigrants of a differnt color, religion, and culture living within France as second class citizens, mostly unemployed, mostly without the same opportunities to improve their lot, and mostly unable to return to nations they left.
These are who Sarkozy and Beck thinks are SCUM!
I know how I would feel if I were second or third generation immigrant's decendant speaking French instead of my native countries language but being treated as an unwanted occupant, as second class, as SCUM in the only nation left them!
Politically Correct speak had nothing to do with why Beck thinks the rioters are scum! They are mostly Islamic, and dark complexion while having the gawl to be without political influenance, or a television show!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
I don't care if it was Mother Teresa who was doing it. If you are going around, damaging public property and setting the city on fire as a "social protest," YOU ARE SCUM! If you are unemployed, you ought to have plenty of time to sit in front of city hall with your picket signs and go about things in a CIVILIZED manner.
As if you know anything about the human situation or the degree of political disenfranchisement for impoverished immigrants in France. You don't even have a grip in what's going on in this country today.
When you're so far from the discontent and so high above the fray it's so easy stand in mighty and pious judgment ain't it?
Tell you what, walk a mile in their shoes.
At our core we all share a common desire to live free of the suffering born of a desparate life. Having said that, violence is never the answer. It only strengthens cycles of anger . But when people rise up in furious protest it is time for their government to not only keep innocent bystanders safe, but it's time for them to hear the voices of discontent. And it's then time for leaders of all sides to come to mutually beneficial solutions. That's democracy and it isn't achieved by telling people to sit down and shut up. And it damn sure ain't gonna happen when you think of people as scum.
Here, let me help you get a clue.
Q: Who kills abortion doctors?
Q: Who sent anthrax powder via mail and killed at least one known person?
Q: Who was charged and jailed for beating a protester unconcious during a republican party convention?
Q: What kind of militant blew up that building in Oklahoma?
Q: What was the party denomination of a preacher who said America deserved Katrina because of our acceptance of homosexuality?
Interesting when you talk about who actually kills or wishes death, only one answer comes to mind...
Also, I don't see the left wanting to bug everyone's phones and break down doors to do illegal searches like Big Brother wants. Try again, that title definitely belongs to the right.
GF,
Remind me which President is only talking before pre-screened audiences. Remind me which administration is removing and arresting people who are wearing shirts that don't support the President.
Remind me which President was tapping our phones BEFORE 9/11. Remind me which President/party is saying that FISA doesn't give him enough power to tap our phones.
So, dissent at conservative speeches at college campuses is big brother? I thought that was freedom of speech!
"Your party is gonna die a hard death long before the democratic party, because we are for the people, you are for yourself."
Snoopy, I don't know if the 'normal' or common sense (to us) paradigm applies. As in, "when the people see how much better we are to them, they will be with us". I think the way of it may be that they would rather "live Democratic Party free or die". In other words, what animates so many people is an anti-Democratic Party bias, not pro-GOP (pro-GOP only in this sense that it is an anti-party--Anti Democratic Party.)
In other words, faced with the likelihood of imminent disaster under a Republican president, they may subconsciously prefer that ultimate result to living with the dishonor of living under a Democratic Party president.
My goodness you just get stupider and stupider. You whackjobs have taken the GOP and turned it into the Brownshirt Fascist party, the Marching MORON society. Good job there. I say no more morons so do the world a favor and DO. NOT. BREED.
Ratings are the most democratic form of political opinion.
Oh good grief. VOTING is the most democratic form of political opinion. Ratings are a function of mass entertainment appeal. Sex, violence, fighting, acrimony have much more appeal than reasoned, rational in-depth discussion.
I totally agree. Rating are the only real poll, vote and measure of an idea. In the privacy of one's home and mind, voting with your remote control is the only honest vote.
When you look at the pay, ratings, and #1 book in the country, I'd say that means that AMERICA AGREES AND LOVES GLENN BECK.
Logically though, people don't watch something that they intrinsically disagree with, and they don't listen to a radio program that they intrinsically disagree with, so therefore, if his ratings are increasing, then more people agree with him.
There is no logical argument against it.
Wow. Maybe I should go on TV and be a fear-mongering bigot. It seems to pay well.
Of course, scientists would have to come up with a drug that could inhibit my conscience along with my sense of decency (it would be ironic since I would use that drug to spread lies about stem cells, evolution, and global warming).
let's see...
$50M contract? Republicans reward failure. That's why they voted for a sub par "C" student with several failed job adventures.
Book deal? It's called bulk buying. They just buy the crap in bulk and give them out free at conventions.
Ratings? Lower than whale dung on the bottom of the ocean. As noted before, republicans reward failure.
"$50M contract? Republicans reward failure. That's why they voted for a sub par "C" student with several failed job adventures." $50M is $50M. A college education is meaningless these days. I dropped out and am doing okay.
"Book deal? It's called bulk buying. They just buy the crap in bulk and give them out free at conventions". Any evidence of this accusation? No? Another unsupported left-wing smear.
"Ratings? Lower than whale dung on the bottom of the ocean. As noted before, republicans reward failure". Oooo - you're SO cleaver. This is from today's Hollywood Reporter: "The O'Reilly Factor" was up in viewership and the adults 25-54 demo compared with last year. CNN Headline News showed increases in viewership in several shows, including "Nancy Grace," "Prime News With Erica Hill" and "Morning Express With Robin Meade." Headline News' "Glenn Beck" showed its best viewership and demo ratings for a full month.
woo hoo! his show had it's best viewership ratings in a month! So what, he's still rated below whale turds. He's not getting that big bucks for great ratings, he's getting it because right wing conservatives own the cable airwaves and want a heavily slanted conservative voice on. Him drawing 100,000 nightly in a country of 300 million is irrelevant.
He's not getting the big bucks from, his job on Headline News. He gets it from his AM radio show.
You know the one that appeals to those losers driving the cars held together with the wingnut bumper stickers.
Pornography is popular and profitable.
That doesn't change the fact that it's still pornography.
Goodfella, most people will look at a horrible accident scene also. (and feel the worse for it later)
Some people just feel inconvenienced because the accident stops traffic and causes them to miss the beginning of Beck or O'Reilly's show.
Or it could be it makes them late for a cross burning.
I will take your word for the rest of it but that last statement is certainly accurate.
You know what I decided NOT to take your word for it and looked up the NYTimes best seller list non fiction here are the top five
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I didnt see Glenn Beck anywhere in the Thirty five so it doesnt look like he is on the NYTimes best seller list at ALL much less #1
Did you check the bestselling FICTION list?
;-)
TJ, the factor your hinting at would be stupidity on the part of the duly designated officials in charge of dealing with the situation.
Somehow your manner strikes me as like someone who sells pornography to high school kids.
GF isn't there some other factor?
I'm still baffled that CNN has allowed this "insightful" man to still have his own show?
In fact, I'm still waiting for Beck to say something worthwhile or insightful!
Couldn't CNN ask..... beg FOX Noise to just do the smart thing and buy out his contract...... he'd fit in better there anyways and as he loses viewers (like FOX is everyday) he can be spared by the influx of corporate money and right-wing conservative advertising.
The reasons why France is screwed up go deep.
The French espouse the ideals of democracy with a fervid passion. An american leftist would be called center-right in France--and maybe a fascist. Apologize for socialism? You have to apologize for capitalism.
And yet this nation of proud liberals is as culturally exclusionary as China.
The French are immensely proud of their culture, their language, their way of life. And that way of life does not include adulteration by African faces and Arabic accents. Politically and legally they are defended--but culturally they are told a thousand times a day 'you are not French.'
America sops up cultural influences like a sponge. With Mexico, it's been going on for centuries: cowboy culture as almost all Spanish. What's more American than a rodeo?
In America an immigrant can see the contribution they make to American life. Not so in France. La belle France is something that can only be adulterated by immigrants--especially immigrants from its misbegotten attempt at empire.
Let's not forget that the French Revolution was a failure. Though they riot in the streets for democracy, the French are class-bound to an extent horrifying to Americans. Let's also not forget that the word élite comes from the French.
The riots are not occurring because France is multicultural--but because it isn't. As usual, Glenn Beck gets it exactly wrong..
The problem with The Beaver is that he knows just enough to be dangerous. Politicians will often tell us how smart the American public is. We can figure things out.
Wrong. We like it simple and unsophisticated (wrapped in a flag is always helpful). We like our red meat and thanks to the Beaver, we get our daily dose. As The Beav likes tell us, he's not an expert in anything but he is a "thinker" (I'm afraid to ask what he means). Clearly he is avoiding the whole notion of critical thinking; and why not, when his audience can't get past a bumper sticker.
By the way, for all of you who believe that sales, ratings, etc says something about quality (or whatever)...reruns of Fear Factor are on tonight!!
Beck is a thinker in the sense that Homer Simpson is a thinker.
How many times has Homer's life been going down the toilet as a thought bubble appears to show you what he's thinking about.
Usually it's a donut or Duff Beer.
I find it laughable that anyone would offer Beck's financial success as an indication of his "intelligence". I guess that makes Paris Hilton a candidate for MENSA. The truth, most likely, is that the same moneyed interests that nursed Rush Limbaugh along in his early years are now grooming Glenn Beck as his eventual replacement in the Pantheon of GOP Professional Liars. His main advantage over Rush is that he apparently plays well on TV...mostly because he looks like that bucktoothed 12-year-old neighbor who used to mow your yard for $5. Don't let his "aw shucks" demeanor fool you. He's nothing more than one more conduit for Republican propaganda, just like Rush...just like Sean...just like Ann.
Paris who? ;-)
I am a Mexican-American, a Chicano, if you will. None of my brethren believe in this Reconquista b.s. As far as most of us are concerned, this is radical fringe idea that is a relic of the 60's and quite frankly I am unpleasantly surprised every time Beck brings it up. It serves no function other than to put the fear of Mexicans into "normal", legitimate Americans. What do you expect from a guy who spends most of his time hashing out terrorist plots against his own countrymen and then broadcasting these plans to his adoring public? This douchebag knows nothing but how to sow discord and suspicion in the nation.
Lol. Agreed wholeheartedly. These conservatives call liberals fascist when it is they who lead through fear and oppression. See what clowns like Finarfin don't realize is that America can no longer belong to one race. Why? Capitalism. Plain and simple. Green is the only color that has ever really mattered and if you have enough money to influence the political process, your special interest must be catered to.
Following that brilliant line of logic, I cannot say that junior is unwelcome in my home because he's the president of this country.
reconquista, my a55. Baja is already a defacto 51st state, there is a higher percentage of English speaking service workers in Cabo than in So Cal.
If history teaches us anything, it is that Mexico will trend toward the same big corporate oligarchy controlled goverment that we have here. In order for the US to lose the South West to some vague "reconquista" movement there would have to be an actual democracy in both countries so that the will of the people would be enacted. How likely is it that the military-industrial complex would let So Cal, home to billions and billions of dollars of defense contracts, slip away?
I am French and I live in Paris and I can confirm that France is probably the most racist country in the Western societies. There's not one day without its racial insults.
Let me quote an American journalist (Doung Ireland) who lived in France: "it is the result of 30 years of gouvernment neglect[...] and of the deep-seated, searing, soul-destroying racism that the unemployed and proufoundly alienated young of the guettos face every day of their live, both from police, and when trying to find a job or decent housing."
At least in the US (I was there last summer, in LA) it is peaceful and people live side by side happilly...No one harrassed me or said any racial insults to me (N-word etc...) and I felt welcome there as if I was an American.
To deny the "bolded" statements' facts is to have your head in the sand. There are people and groups that think this. I don't like to believe it, but it is there. And it does cause the country problems in the long run when these groups have no loyalty to the country as a whole.
I think the beck....got it wrong tho, I think the fact that these are as state, forgotten people...has as much to do with the problem as all the other reasons.
I used to see a lot of posts about Polls taken in Britain concerning British Muslims. A lot of hullabaloo's been made about that 7% who said "Suicide bombing may be justified under some circumstances". Considering that most Muslims feel their leaders are puppet dictators, and have no heroic military to feel pride in, it's less disturbing than a Christian Science Monitor poll that showed up last year. 54% of Americans believe "Killing civilians may be justified under some circumstances." If you boil all the rhetoric down, far more americans actually believe in "letting god sort em out" than Muslims do. Now imagine the US didnt have a military, and china were occupying the American midwest, and you'd see a lot of holy-roller baptist suicide bombers.
Now imagine the US didnt have a military, and china were occupying the American midwest, and you'd see a lot of holy-roller baptist suicide bombers.
Suggest anyone read the book "Dying to Kill" which supports the view that suicide attacks come as a result of occupation or fear of occupation. It's not a Muslim thing. Many different cultures in history have made that choice when they had no other weapon,... and were desperate.
First of all Loreilei you're speaking about "French youth". But I can tell you that even though those kids were born in France and consider themselves as French, they're not considered as "French" but as "foreigners" by white people here and by the State of France because of racism over here.
I live in Paris right now and myself experience all this racism. Those young people who are angry in France have done eveything to try to get themselves integrated in French society but they're not allowed to do so. There's no hope...
I think before making any comment, people should know what's happening in French society.
If you want to know exactly WHY there are riots in France, here's an article of an American journalist in Paris regarding the 2005 riots. Excellent article by the way.
[link to direland.typepad.com]
By the way the people who use arguments as "the same type of Muslim immigrant who doesn't feel any type of loyalty to the host country continues to settle here" should be cautious.
This same type of argument if used here in France by someone called Jean-Marie Le Pen who's the head of the French Neo-nazi party (Front National), who has former nazi officers as friends and who strongly believe that black people are racially and intellectually inferior....
Just type his name on Google and go visit his website....By the way he also said that "Gas chambers of the holocaust were just a detail of history". That man is anti-semitic and racist.
I noticed that my link to "Direland" is wrong. Just erase everything after "html" when you click on it.
Cheers!
Thank you for your posts Laplumelefirmament. Just don't ask me to type out your whole name often.
Spread the word, if you would, where you are about the site. The image we present though our media to the world is, to put it mildly, appalling.
i don't what the hell the Frenchies are waiting for. Need to crack some serious head.
I wonder who write his stuff. I doubt he does.