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Morris and Tyrrell claimed Clinton campaign was responsible for Kerr question at GOP debate

November 30, 2007 7:16 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Fox News' Fox & Friends, while discussing retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr's question during the November 28 CNN/YouTube Republican debate, Dick Morris said, "You know, listen, let's put the blame where it's due. This is a dirty trick by the Hillary Clinton campaign." On Fox & Friends First, R. Emmett Tyrrell replied, "I think so," when Steve Doocy asked, "So, are you saying that the Clintons had something to do with CNN doing a bad job vetting these questioners?" Tyrrell later stated that "the Clintons ... have played fast and loose with ethics since day one. This is a pattern."

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On the November 30 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, while discussing retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr's question about the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy during the November 28 CNN/YouTube Republican debate, syndicated columnist Dick Morris said, "You know, listen, let's put the blame where it's due. This is a dirty trick by the Hillary Clinton campaign," referring to the fact that Kerr is a member of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Americans for Hillary Clinton steering committee and a co-chairman of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-NY) Veterans and Military Retirees for Hillary Committee. Co-host Steve Doocy then asked Morris, "How do you figure?" Morris replied: "Well, come on. The head of your veterans' steering committee asks a question about gay rights on the Republican debate and you don't think the campaign knows about it? Oh, for goodness' sakes, of course they know about it. ... And this campaign has already twice planted questions at town meetings. This ... goes back to the 1972 Richard Nixon dirty tricks."

Morris went on to claim that the Clinton campaign was responsible for a November 28 Politico article, which reported that "[a]s New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan." Morris said the story "undoubtedly, at least in my view, was a setup by Hillary." And during his appearance on Fox & Friends, the on-screen text read: "Clinton's Tactics: Is Campaign Playing Dirty?"

Earlier, on the November 30 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First, Doocy had discussed Kerr's ties to the Clinton campaign with American Spectator founder and editor-in-chief R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., author of The Clinton Crack-Up: The Boy President's Life After the White House (Thomas Nelson, March 2007). After Tyrrell stated that the Clintons have "been fooling around with elections, fooling around with campaign finance for years," Doocy asked, "So, are you saying that the Clintons had something to do with CNN doing a bad job vetting these questioners?" Tyrrell responded, "Well, I think so," adding, "[F]irst of all, CNN is responsible for it and their behavior is reprehensible. But secondly, I mean, this Clinton supporter didn't get out there because ... he just happened to wander into the room." Co-host Greg Kelly later said to Tyrrell, "[Y]ou don't have any proof that the Clinton campaign -- the Clinton campaign denies that they actually planted this question," to which Tyrell replied: "Well, look, my proof is this. There is a pattern here. The Clintons have been political animals from day one and they have played fast and loose with ethics since day one. This is a pattern. That's pretty good proof."

The segment was accompanied by on-screen text reading: "GOP Debate Fallout: Did Hillary Plant Questioner?" and "Clinton Crack-Up: Another Planted Questioner?"

At the end of the segment, Doocy said, "Meanwhile, our question of the day, regarding the CNN 'Plant-Gate': Do you think it was some sort of vast left-wing conspiracy or simple incompetence at CNN?" As Doocy asked this question, an on-screen graphic appeared reading, "CNN 'Plant-Gate': Conspiracy Or Incompetence?"

The previous day on Fox & Friends, while discussing Kerr's question, the on-screen text read: "Hillary's Stand-In: Clinton Plants Staffer At Debate" and "Plant Media: GOP YouTube Debate." However, as Media Matters for America noted, at no point during the show did anyone note that several hours earlier, Fox News political producer Jake Gibson reported that Kerr "seems genuine that he ... was not contacted by the Clinton campaign to do this." Gibson reported this on Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron's blog, Cameron's Corner, which, after the debate, also reported the Clinton campaign's statement that Kerr "is not a campaign employee and was not acting on behalf of the campaign."

From the November 30 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: All right, we've been talking about this -- a Hillary supporter managed to get his question on the CNN/YouTube debate on Wednesday night. Was it an honest mistake or a dirty tactic by the Clinton camp? Dick Morris is a former Clinton adviser and author of Outrage. He's also got a great website. It's dickmorris.com. And he joins us live from West Palm Beach. Good morning to you, sir.

MORRIS: Hey. Good to be here, Steve.

DOOCY: Hey, Michelle Malkin has done some Googling and she's found something like six or seven different questioners at the CNN debate have political axes to grind with the Republicans.

MORRIS: Yeah, I mean, it was ridiculous. I saw it last night on Fox. One of them has an Edwards t-shirt on her website.

DOOCY: Aw, yeah.

MORRIS: All that stuff. It appears that not only are all the reporters on CNN Democrats, but all of the questioners at the Republican debate sponsored by CNN are Democrats.

DOOCY: Uh-huh. Interestingly enough, we're showing video of the gay general who asked the question about "don't ask, don't tell," which apparently is CNN's policy when booking guests. Now let me ask you about the actual debate itself. How do you think the candidates did?

MORRIS: But wait a sec, before we get past that --

DOOCY: Yes, sir.

MORRIS: -- gay questioner. You know, listen, let's put the blame where it's due. This is a dirty trick by the Hillary Clinton campaign. She's already been --

DOOCY: How do you figure?

MORRIS: Well, come on. The head of your veterans' steering committee asks a question about gay rights on the Republican debate and you don't think the campaign knows about it? Oh, for goodness' sakes, of course they know about it.

DOOCY: Yeah, but, Dick, don't you think it's just --

MORRIS: And this campaign has already twice planted questions at town meetings. This is -- goes back to the 1972 Richard Nixon dirty tricks. And, by the way, while we're on dirty tricks, I bet that this knock on Giuliani about the police detail also comes from Hillary's negative research machine. It was officially an FOI, freedom of information request by Politico.com, but that's a site filled with liberal Democrats, and it undoubtedly, in my view at least, was a setup by Hillary.

DOOCY: All right, so you think it was a dirty trick? Real quickly before you --

MORRIS: It was.

DOOCY: -- before you go, though, how do you think the candidates did?

MORRIS: Well, I think Romney hurt Giuliani over immigration. I think Giuliani hurt Romney over immigration. I think Thompson hurt Romney over abortion. I think everybody hurt everybody, but the guy who was sort of not touched was Huckabee. And I think he won.

DOOCY: All right. There you go. Dick Morris, joining us live from West Palm Beach. We've got to go right now, Dick, because the producers have planted a commercial straight ahead. Once again, if you want to read about -- he's got some great comments. Go to dickmorris.com.

From the November 30 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First:

DOOCY: A Hillary Clinton supporter popped up asking tough questions at the CNN "Boob Tube" -- I mean YouTube debate on Wednesday night. Is this just a coincidence or more of the same shenanigans from, perhaps, the Clintons?

KELLY: R. Emmett Tyrrell is the author of The Clinton Crack-Up. He joins us now from Washington, D.C. And sir, in fairness, we're going to do something that CNN did not do the other night and that is, disclosure here: You've written a number of books that are very much against -- anti-Clinton -- and perhaps some folks close to the Clintons might even say, you're an enemy of the Clintons. But, having said that, we know where you're coming from.

What do you think about that question from General Carr [sic], the homosexual retired Army general, as a Clinton supporter, there asking a question but no disclosure from CNN about where he was coming from.

TYRRELL: Well, his question was about the gay policy -- the policy of "don't ask, and don't tell," and there you have CNN following the policy. They didn't ask and they didn't tell.

DOOCY: You are absolutely right. And of course, if -- you know, Emmett, if Fox did this, where they were hosting a -- we were hosting a debate and somebody filtered through and had a political agenda, it would be on Page 1 of The New York Times every day for the next month. And I'm looking at the front page of The New York Times today; I don't see anything about it. What's up with that?

TYRRELL: Well, you know, when finishing -- having finished The Clinton Crack-Up, I discovered one thing in the research of that book that I didn't expect, and that was that every single scandal the Clintons got into during the '90s and have gotten into during this election had its precursor in Arkansas. They've been fooling around with elections, fooling around with campaign finance for years. And this is nothing new. They are very political people.

DOOCY: So, are you saying that the Clintons had something to do with CNN doing a bad job vetting these questioners?

TYRRELL: Well, I think so. I mean, I wouldn't -- first of all, CNN is responsible for it and their behavior is reprehensible. But secondly, I mean, this Clinton supporter didn't get out there because they just -- she -- he just happened to wander into the room. How did -- who paid for him to get there by the way?

DOOCY: CNN.

TYRRELL: Has anyone asked that question?

KELLY: CNN paid.

DOOCY: CNN.

KELLY: Yeah, but again you don't have any proof that the Clinton campaign -- the Clinton campaign denies that they actually planted this question. And then I guess the same question would have to be asked of the Obama campaign and the Edwards campaign who also had supporters there asking questions.

TYRRELL: Well, look, my proof is this. There is a pattern here. The Clintons have been political animals from day one and they have played fast and loose with ethics since day one. This is a pattern. That's pretty good proof.

DOOCY: All right. R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., author of The Clinton Crack-Up, we thank you very much for joining us live.

TYRRELLL Nice to be with you.

DOOCY: There is his book. Meanwhile, our question of the day, regarding the CNN "Plant-Gate": Do you think it was some sort of vast left-wing conspiracy or simple incompetence at CNN?

KELLY: A or B?

DOOCY: That's right: incompetence or conspiracy?

KELLY: One of the -- gotta pick one.

DOOCY: Email us at friends@foxnews.com.

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    • Author by snoopy (November 30, 2007 7:49 pm ET)
         

      Poor sheltered republicans. It's just soooo difficult to answered unsanitized questions, isn't it? The Democrats have proved they can handle loaded bombs from republics, too bad y'all can't match them mano e mano. Hillary has more balls than the whole lot of your candidates...

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      • Author by finarfin (November 30, 2007 9:26 pm ET)
           

        Snoopy, give me an example of the Dems answering a tough republican question. You may mount the roof of your doghouse to contemplate this. but i do not think or at least I hope Hillary does not have "balls", that might be a tad disturbing especially if they are more than the standard amount.

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        • Author by open_mind (December 01, 2007 12:42 am ET)
             

          What made the General's question so tough in your mind?  It was pretty straight-forward.  Do you think this was the first time these candidates have thought about the issue?

          As an Independent myself, I would love to see Republicans ask fair questions to the Democrats.  You seem to fail to realize that the real power lays with the responder - not the questioner as long as the question is fair answerable.  The responder also has the luxury of the last word.

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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 01, 2007 1:05 am ET)
             

          That's your problem with Hillary Farfin, she doesn't have to touch herself to find her balls, you do.

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        • Author by dangrady (December 01, 2007 10:22 am ET)
             

          SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

          I want to know why a Democrat may not have a good question about Gays in the military?

          The issue is certainly non-partisan! We haven't made a enlistment goal in years! We have wounded and killed dramatically reducing our ranks and putting a greater burden on a fewer number.

          We have a military that is 4 years overdue for a DRAFT! We have a military that is doing the jobs meant of 4 times their number!

          We discharge people for declaring their sexuality after spending a fortune to train them, after they want nothing more than to serve, after we need them desparately, and stil can't get the policy changed because Republicans love to vilify and tatalize their base opposing the change in policy!

          A policy that started with Bill Clinton!

          Why shouldn't Republicans that have rode the backs of Gays in the past 10 federal elections making them the Democratic Boogy Man be made to explain to a retired General why his kind may not serve as who they are in American the Free?

          The responsible democratic thing to do in America is to let people be who they are, and factor out any thing to do with sexuality.

          I'm sure Hilary would have rather had her nails pull out on stage than answer the question on Elliot Spitzer's bill to give driver's licenses to illegals! Did we go on a witch hunt accusing Republicans of infiltration, did we march conspiracy nuts to say the Guiliani did it?

          Why do you have to be a Republican to speak, or even attend a Presidential/Vice Presidential event? Are they not the American President, or just the Republican President??

          Happy Thoughts;

          Dan Grady

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      • Author by Indiana-Libertarian (December 01, 2007 8:09 pm ET)
           

        I can only think of one tough question that Hillary received and she failed when trying to answer it.  Plus you don't hear questions from conservatives at Democratic debates.  Good conservative questions you don't hear are "why do you favor income redistribution?" or "why do you want a healthcare system similar to that of Canada or Britain when their citizens are leaving their respective countries for the USA in order to obtain quality healthcare?"  We already know that central planning will destroy our economy just as it has for all socialist nations.  

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (December 02, 2007 1:41 pm ET)
             

          Fairly provocitive post -Si.

          Income redistbuting is what all governments do. For the last six+ years its been steadily been redristributed strongly to the richest parts of our society. Your ok with this? If so tell me why.

          Socialized medicine has been hashed over here before. Make claims if you like. Examples and proof would make me consider you got more than wishful thinking.

          Central planning is another thing all governments do. On the whole done honestly and comptitently its a usual winner.

          Several thugisms have failed what ever they might label themselves. Much of western europe is socialistic and doing well. Put some names on all those failures.

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        • Author by Si_W (December 02, 2007 6:56 pm ET)
             

          "why do you want a healthcare system similar to that of Canada or Britain when their citizens are leaving their respective countries for the USA in order to obtain quality healthcare?"  

          Really?  I don't see anyone leaving the UK for that reason from where I'm sitting (in the UK).  Any proof on this?  Numbers?

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          • Author by fawltylogic (December 02, 2007 7:28 pm ET)
               

            Of course they don't. I would rather ask why countries such as India have such a big medical tourism industry from customers from the USA. Of course, we know why.

            NOBODY I have ever talked to that comes from Europe have ever traveled to the US to have care, or even mentioned anything positive about the US medical insurance system. It is a laughing stock of the entire world, as it should be.

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          • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 03, 2007 1:57 am ET)
               

            SI_W, I think you isunderstood the post. Those were examples of "good conservative questions", meaning completely delusional horsesh*t.

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    • Author by mefirst (November 30, 2007 7:58 pm ET)
         

      morris compares planted questions to the "1972 nixon dirty tricks"?   a sense of history escapes him, since that involved massive crimes including burglary, misuse of government agencies for political witch hunts, obstruction of justice, and lying under oath.  and wasn't everyone at fox complaining about how the democrats were supposedly afraid to debate on fox, because they might be asked tough questions?  

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      • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (November 30, 2007 9:12 pm ET)
           

        The far right is playing the daily double of "left wing media bias" and "Hillary Clinton is the devil" for all it's worth aren't they?

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    • Author by ryanimel4914 (November 30, 2007 8:55 pm ET)
         

      Yeah...The democrats really showed how well they answer tough questions....can you say "DONT'T TAZE ME BRO..."?

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    • Author by fawltylogic (November 30, 2007 9:13 pm ET)
         

      And even if this was true, WHAT'S THE POINT? The question could have come from Mickey Mouse and it would still have been valid. Geez. Talk about trying to deflect from what really matters!

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      • Author by finarfin (November 30, 2007 9:33 pm ET)
           

        Do you know where the question should have come from? The large screen where all of the other Youtubers asked their questions. If it had come from mickey mouse it would be alright if it was a you-tube video question, I am sure that that fellow was not the only one to have such a query. Instead they just had to plant a unique (don't tell me there are thousands like him) character in the audience to ask that particular question.

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        • Author by mefirst (November 30, 2007 10:08 pm ET)
             

          what was so unique or particular about that question?  first you've heard of that issue?

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        • Author by fawltylogic (November 30, 2007 10:16 pm ET)
             

          Oh yeah, silly me... it would be TOTALLY different if the question was asked on a screen instead of in a microphone... no, wait the question WAS asked on the screen.

          Yes, Kerr was allowed some follow-up comments. How does that change the content of the question, and more importantly, how does that change the answers given?

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      • Author by Conchobhar (November 30, 2007 11:34 pm ET)
           

        The POINT, dear Nigel, was to attack somebody.  Debating issues?  So Nineteenth Century.  This is just the rightwing playbook warming up.

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        • Author by Conchobhar (November 30, 2007 11:36 pm ET)
             

          Whoops, as soon as I posted I realized the name should have been Basil.  Towering embarrassment, don't you know.

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    • Author by solon (November 30, 2007 10:24 pm ET)
         

      And back to the topic what evidence do they have that Kerr was a plant by the Clinton campaign even though both he and they have denied it? There isnt any? What a shock, so Tyrell and Morris just decided to say so anyway. They are too journalists what McDonalds is to gourmet food.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (December 01, 2007 12:29 am ET)
         

      who cares who asked ? tough questions need to be answered. I was very disappointed by Anderson cooper. He actually didn't need to be there in this kind of " debate ". Just pop some foils on the projector and have the candidates answer ( or in this case non answer )

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    • Author by joseph_b26 (December 01, 2007 12:44 am ET)
         

      On So Many Levels

      This was the cheep trick that beats all. Hillary Clinton was miles away from the Republicans debate probably laughing at how stupid they looked. CNN found a way to bring her to a negative light.

      Lets get one thing straight: CNN is not a Democratic leaning network. Instead, it is more conservative than Fox. CNN would like you to believe they are balanced. Don't believe the smokescreen. I bet CNN was responsible for setting Clinton up to look like she planted someone in the debate. It leans toward their attempts to make her look like a vicious politician who will do any thing to win. I could only imagine what would happen if they, meaning CNN, got caught at being a little too creative in bringing the news to the viewers.

      Day after day, hour after hour, all you have to do is turn your TV to CNN or MSNBC to find how liberal these two networks are. In the last month, these two stations have mounted nothing but attacks on Clinton. On a daily bases, I plan to count the percentage time spent on negative Clinton stories. I have sent Chris Matthews a suggestion he change his shows name to the "lets beat up on Hillary show." He should see a psychiatrist for his obsession over Hillary Clinton. He now spends 90% of his show just on her. It's catchy because Wolf Blitzer is not far behind.

      Don't believe the hype. Instead, take a few minutes to watch the amount of time spent on Clinton to see what I claim. Or get a transcript. Until they find out many are interested in the transcripts, they will be available. When the figure out they have many links to their transcripts, they will replace the material with a note saying "this information is no longer available."

       Joseph

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      • Author by justicetruthus8276 (December 01, 2007 1:07 am ET)
           

        Lets get one thing straight: CNN is not a Democratic leaning network.

         

        Oh yeah?  Then why is it called the Clinton News Network

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        • Author by Conchobhar (December 01, 2007 1:38 am ET)
             

          "Then why is it called the Clinton News Network? "

          By whom?  Anybody reasonable?

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 01, 2007 1:42 am ET)
             

          Then why is it called the Clinton News Network

          Because the Oxymoron knows how gullible you are.

          You're welcome.

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        • Author by Sueelldd (December 01, 2007 7:27 am ET)
             

          Truth

          the same reason some on here call FOX "FAUX". This is all partisan hate. Take off your blinders.

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          • Author by mefirst (December 01, 2007 8:01 am ET)
               

            is it wrong to call fox "faux"?

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            • Author by Sueelldd (December 01, 2007 12:31 pm ET)
                 

              no, people can call it whatever they want. I am not a fan of FOX but partisans call if FAUX just like partisans call CNN the Clinton News Network.

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              • Author by mefirst (December 01, 2007 12:39 pm ET)
                   

                i call it faux for one reason.  they call themselves fair and balanced when they are a twenty four hour commercial for the republican party.   therefore they are "faux" or fake.  on the other hand,  it's not accurate to call something the clinton news network when they hand over two hours of prime time to a rightwinger like glenn beck, among other things.  the "partisan hate" is not the same. 

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                • Author by Sueelldd (December 01, 2007 1:13 pm ET)
                     

                  true about beck, but that Gretta Van Sustren on FOX is a real right winger also. An hour of primetime right wing hate comes out of her mouth nightly.  

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                  • Author by mefirst (December 01, 2007 1:23 pm ET)
                       

                    and your point?   mine is that you can't equate the criticisms as equal. 

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                    • Author by Sueelldd (December 01, 2007 3:29 pm ET)
                         

                      mine is too point out how FOX is biased with Gretta, you are however to dense to see it . 

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                      • Author by JimmyCraghorn (December 01, 2007 4:33 pm ET)
                           

                        its to bad you have two resort too namecalling Soo.

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                      • Author by mefirst (December 01, 2007 4:42 pm ET)
                           

                        no. i think your point was that calling fox "faux" is "partisan hate" like calling cnn the "clinton news network".    they're not comparable.

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                        • Author by Sueelldd (December 01, 2007 10:50 pm ET)
                             

                          thanks for defining my points. You are clearly wrong however, FOX is FAUX and no where did I defend them. 

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                          • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 02, 2007 5:31 am ET)
                               

                            Sueeeld, that planet you live on is mighty nutty.

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                            • Author by Sueelldd (December 02, 2007 7:04 am ET)
                                 

                              Well yes, earth is nutty . It is  sad place also at times.

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                              • Author by mefirst (December 02, 2007 7:50 am ET)
                                   

                                you claimed that calling fox "faux" is partisan hate, like calling cnn the "clinton news network".   pretty obvious what you were saying. 

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                                • Author by Sueelldd (December 02, 2007 4:39 pm ET)
                                     

                                  so you have no problem with calling CNN Clinton News Network? I am not sure what you are saying other than suggesting I support FAUX which I do not. Looks like you just want to be combative.

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                                  • Author by mefirst (December 02, 2007 4:58 pm ET)
                                       

                                    uh no, i said yesterday:  "it's not accurate to call something the clinton news network when they hand over two hours of prime time to a right winger like glenn beck..."   how you can turn that into me having no problem with it is beyond me. 

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                                    • Author by MHK (December 03, 2007 10:25 am ET)
                                         

                                      Sue I think you need to come up come up with some new material for your non-answers.  The partisn blinder stuff is getting boring........   Zzzzzz

                                       

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      • Author by brady (December 01, 2007 1:11 am ET)
           

        If the republican candidates can’t handle a question from a retired gay general, how are they going to handle planted questions from another Jeff Gannon once they reach the White House?

         Doocy should never, ever use the word, "incompetence" in a sentence when referring to network news. His network, his name, his face and the word "incompetence" just come together way too naturally

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    • Author by captfoster2 (December 01, 2007 1:01 am ET)
         

      Is it me or do many of these conservatives have a 24/7 hardon for Hillary?....... or is it Bill?

      Can't tell with these Republicans today!

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    • Author by ogg (December 01, 2007 3:19 am ET)
         

      Hilarious media teapot-tempest. Here, where General Kerr lives, the local paper interviewed him:

      http://www.pressdemocrat.com/

      The lifelong Republican is being schooled in New RepugliKKKlan tactics -- and he is pretty amused -- horrified, but amused. 

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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (December 01, 2007 9:20 pm ET)
         

      Your link is invalid.

      Incidentally, it is the Democrats who have a former KKK member as a senator, Harry Byrd.  

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      • Author by dmcc9995 (December 01, 2007 11:15 pm ET)
           

        ...and that has what to do with the issue under discussion here?

        Obviously you have nothing substantive to contribute to it.

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      • Author by dmcc9995 (December 01, 2007 11:40 pm ET)
           

        Oh, and BTW, the senator to whom you refer is Robert Byrd, not Harry. Senator Harry Flood Byrd of Virginia (no relation to Senator Robert C Byrd, D-WV) was the patriarch of the "massive resistance" (to civil rights and school desgregation) movement of the 1950s. He too was a Democrat, but unlike Strom Thurmond he resigned from the Senate instead of  becoming a Bourbon Republican.

        There, I've succeeded in creating a distraction and dragging this discussion way off topic, but  please note that in the doing I've managed to correct your factual error and impart some fairly interesting background information. Watch and learn. And if you want to post here, get your facts straight and don't use red herrings to slip in lame ideological slurs against people you don't like. We're already all stocked up with that kind of rubbish.

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 02, 2007 5:36 am ET)
             

          Not to mention Byrd was involved with trhe KKK about the same time as the current Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth.

          Don't hear much mention of that, eh, wingnuts?

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 03, 2007 2:04 am ET)
           

        Ed, to be fair, I'm sure the Repubs have some former KKK members in their ranks.They can't all be current members, can they?

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    • Author by phonicialin155 (December 02, 2007 9:37 pm ET)
         

      true about beck, but that Gretta Van Sustren on FOX is a real right winger also. An hour of primetime right wing hate comes out of her mouth nightly.-[link to www.findiblover.com-]

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