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O'Reilly: "If I had not done the campaign, then the forces of darkness would have won" the "war" on Christmas

December 05, 2007 3:13 pm ET

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During the December 4 edition of his Fox News show, Bill O'Reilly declared victory against the secularists in his "war" on Christmas. Discussing the issue with Alexia Kelley, executive director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, O'Reilly asserted: "Now, first of all, you don't deny that, a few years ago -- and we won this war, largely -- that there was a very effective movement underway to wipe out, in the public square, all vestiges of Christmas. Stores were ordering employees not to say 'Merry Christmas.' Towns were suing to get the crèche off the public property." O'Reilly later claimed: "If I had not done the campaign, then the forces of darkness would have won. There's no question about that. We were able to rally the Alliance Defense Fund in Phoenix, Arizona, to fight the ACLU [American Civil Liberties Union] in court. We were able to convince the major retailers to not order their employees to not say 'Merry Christmas,' to stop that nonsense. We won that."

However, as Media Matters for America documented, O'Reilly previously claimed that certain businesses had ordered employees not to say "Merry Christmas" despite reported denials by representatives of the stores. For instance, on the November 29, 2006, edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, O'Reilly asserted that retailers Best Buy and Crate & Barrel are "still ordering their people not to say, 'Merry Christmas,' " and that the stores "will fire" employees who do so. O'Reilly also claimed that "ordering" employees "not to say 'Merry Christmas' " is "the worst kind of fascism you could possibly have." In a November 22, 2006, article, the Minneapolis Star Tribune quoted Crate & Barrel spokesperson Betty Kahn saying, "We would definitely not say 'Merry Christmas.' " But Think Progress reported: "Kahn said her quote was misconstrued. Crate & Barrel has no policy encouraging or discouraging store employees from saying 'Merry Christmas' or any other greeting. Kahn said she was trying to communicate that the store does not actively require employees to say 'Merry Christmas.' "

On both the November 29, 2006, and December 19, 2006, editions of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly asserted that Best Buy also forbids its employees from saying "Merry Christmas." However, on November 22, 2006, the Augusta Chronicle reported: "Best Buy spokeswoman Dawn Bryant said Best Buy workers are allowed to greet customers any way they choose, including 'Merry Christmas,' but the company's promotional efforts are limited." Bryant added "that one [Best Buy] commercial uses the Happy Holidays saying. 'The idea is that we're celebrating the entire holiday season, just not pulling out any one specific holiday.' " According to the Star Tribune report, another Best Buy spokesperson asserted: "We're not banning Christmas. ... It's the opposite. We're celebrating that holiday, along with the others that are celebrated during November and December."

Later in the December 4 segment, Kelley challenged some of O'Reilly's assertions, saying that "your words around that can be divisive." O'Reilly referred to her as "well-intentioned, but ... naïve," and claimed: "You would have lost the Christmas fight because the secularists don't care about Christmas. All they want to do is get Christianity. Catholicism, Protestantism, whatever it may be, out of the public square." Responding to Kelley's statement that the Christmas message of "caring for our neighbors as ourselves" is "universal," O'Reilly replied: "It may be universal, but you got a lot of forces of darkness who want to knock that message right out."

From the December 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: "Factor follow-up" segment tonight: A group called Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good has taken out a couple of newspaper ads mentioning me. The headline reads: "An Open Letter to Christmas 'Culture Warriors.' " I guess that I am one of those.

Joining us now from Washington: Alexia Kelley, executive director of the Alliance. All right, what do you want people to take away from the ad besides loathing me?

KELLEY: Well, we don't loath you, Bill, and we really want to invite you to join our campaign. We're really wanting to change the subject away from a concern about, sort of, the symbols and the shopping around Christmas, which is all wonderful, to the real message of Christmas, which is, you know, time to be with our families and our friends and to focus on Jesus' message at Christmas, which is to care for our neighbors as ourselves.

O'REILLY: OK, but why would you have to refocus that, because I think most people are with family and friends on Christmas -- I think that's an American tradition -- and I think that anybody who's Catholic understands it's celebrating the birth of Jesus.

Now, first of all, you don't deny that, a few years ago -- and we won this war, largely -- that there was a very effective movement underway to wipe out, in the public square, all vestiges of Christmas. Stores were ordering employees not to say "Merry Christmas." Towns were suing to get the crèche off the public property. You don't deny that was happening, do you?

KELLEY: No, but we did feel that, a lot of the, you know, the campaign and some of the -- you know, your words around that can be divisive. And some of those examples are, you know, do go too far. But the, you know, the way we place our emphasis on Christmas store greetings or what Christmas cards say sort of buys into the consumerism and excessive materialism that can --

O'REILLY: All right, but let's hang on the divisiveness.

KELLEY: -- take over and take over that real message.

O'REILLY: Wait, wait, wait. Let's go back to the divisiveness.

KELLEY: Sure.

O'REILLY: If I had not done the campaign, then the forces of darkness would have won. There's no question about that. We were able to rally the Alliance Defense Fund in Phoenix, Arizona, to fight the ACLU in court. We were able to convince the major retailers to not order their employees to not say "Merry Christmas," to stop that nonsense. We won that. So --

KELLEY: But what we had --

O'REILLY: -- we want to move ahead now and go back to the fundamental meaning of Christmas. I'm with you on that. But to diminish what we did is wrong.

KELLEY: Well, we're inviting you to join us in our campaign to really lift up the message of the common good and get back to the real message of Christmas, and some of the division and the rhetoric around sort of a culture war at Christmastime can distract us from moving forward with a positive message when real people are really struggling today.

And when, you know, Jesus was born in a manger and brought good news to the poor, we want to get back to that message instead of talking about shopping.

O'REILLY: I don't -- I have to disagree with you. I don't think the secularists care about that message at all. And I think the traditional people, most of America, never got away from it. I understand the commercialism, and I understand how stores want to make money, and I understand that they're advertising, you know, after Halloween. I got it. And it's a little bit offensive, but it -- you know, giving gifts brings joy to people.

KELLEY: Yeah, and we're not -- believe me, we do not want to be the Grinch here. I mean, we're -- you know, gift-giving is an important part of the American tradition. But I think dividing people along lines, you know, sort of lines of traditionalism verses, you know, secularists --

O'REILLY: You've got to deal with reality, Ms. Kelley.

KELLEY: Yeah, but it's --

O'REILLY: You've got to -- you know, look.

KELLEY: I think Americans really want to come together around a message of the common good.

O'REILLY: Well, then, why are they suing to get the crèche off the public property?

KELLEY: Well, they're not. They're not suing to do that. I mean, they're some --

O'REILLY: Yeah, they are, Ms. Kelley.

KELLEY: There are some extreme examples.

O'REILLY: The ACLU sued more than a dozen times to get the symbols of Christmas off the public square. Yeah, they are. Look, you are a well-intentioned woman.

KELLEY: But it would be wonderful if you could use --

O'REILLY: You're well- intentioned, but you're naive. You would have lost the Christmas fight because the secularists don't care about Christmas. All they want to do is get Christianity, Catholicism, Protestantism, whatever it may be, out of the public square.

KELLEY: Well, can we --

O'REILLY: They want it out. So, your message is lost on these people. Don't you get that?

KELLEY: No, I don't -- I mean, I think we have a message that's universal, and you know --

O'REILLY: Ai-yai-yai.

KELLEY: -- polls all show that people are ready to come together around a message of good news for the poor and concern for our neighbors as ourselves.

O'REILLY: All right, Miss Kelley --

KELLEY: They're hungry for that.

O'REILLY: -- if that's the way you think, how is Christmas in the Land of Oz? Do you celebrate it any differently? On the yellow brick road?

KELLEY: I think --

O'REILLY: Is that clash with the green tree? Because look, if you think that Americans --

KELLEY: No, I simply celebrate it just like you do.

O'REILLY: If you think all Americans want to come together and celebrate Jesus and Christmas, then you truly are living with the Tin Man, now.

KELLEY: But it is a universal message, we think, of, you know, caring for our neighbors as ourselves.

O'REILLY: It may be universal, but you got a lot of forces of darkness who want to knock that message right out. But we appreciate it.

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    • Author by wzwriter (December 05, 2007 3:18 pm ET)
         

      Bill O'Reilly IS the force of darkness.

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      • Author by captfoster2 (December 05, 2007 11:07 pm ET)
           

        Oh Bill........ You are the most awesomest of all!!

        (Harnessing a 5 year old kid's sarcasm)----You're my hero Mr O'Reilly!

        Your so number one when you charge after all those nasty pinko commie lovin liberals as they attack Christmas in your mind!

        I don't know what America would do without you defending a holiday that was originally meant as a celebration of the birth of Christ (No....not the one born 5000 years ago but the one born 2008 years ago) instead of the corporate created materialistic idea of giving gifts to one another.......

        So awesome!!

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      • Author by the Grey Path (December 05, 2007 11:51 pm ET)
           

        You wanna keep the Christ in Christmas?  Fine, but the Government has to get out.

        If the US Government can shut down on Christmas, I want all my holidays off, too.

        GOVERNMENT OFFICES OPEN ON CHRISTMAS !!!

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      • Author by Sams Computer (December 06, 2007 11:57 am ET)
           

        BILL Oh-Really !!

        Go watch Star Wars again, only this time Pay Attention! You are Darth Vader! You are the Dark Side. You and the forces of evil are on the way out. Check you light sabers at the door and you won't be getting them back.

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    • Author by DaisyDeadhead (December 05, 2007 3:19 pm ET)
         

      It looks like Bill has cast himself as the sparkly-good "Ghost of Christmas Yet-to-Come" in Fox News' version of THE CHRISTMAS CAROL this year. 

      Planet Earth to Bill.  Can you hear me Major Bill? 

       

       

       

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    • Author by worrierking (December 05, 2007 3:20 pm ET)
         

      O'Reilly Versus the Forces of Darkness. $49.99

      Coming this Holiday Season for XBox 360, Playstation 3 and Wii

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 05, 2007 3:53 pm ET)
           

        Har, King. Is the loofah joystick extra?

        BilldO seems to really be going off the deep end.

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        • Author by therick (December 05, 2007 8:03 pm ET)
             

          Not so fast!  Bill knows what he's talking about this time.  There is a war on Christmas!  It's well organized with thousands of members nation wide.  It's called LUDEC.

          LUDEC=Liberals United to Destroy Everything Christmas.  In fact, I'm meeting with my local chapter tomorrow night.  We meet the 1st and 3rd Thursday each month, except December when we meet every Thursday.  We sit around, drink hot coco, and eat cookies shaped like pine trees and reindeer.  Sometimes, just for laughs, we sing Christmas carols out of key.

          Then, late at night, when everybody's asleep, we hop in our pickups, go around to light displays and manger scenes, load up the shotguns, and blast the hell out of them.  It's just good clean fun.

          But, Bills been puting a crimp in our plans lately, we never counted on someone fighting back, and now we have to be more sneaky.  I hate wearing camo, and it doesn't go well with my fabulous baseball cap.

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      • Author by pete592 (December 05, 2007 3:57 pm ET)
           

        OMG I think you're onto something.

        The main character can be Culture Warrior Bill, equipped with the plastic sword and shield that he brought onto Letterman's show.

        During his quest, Culture Warrior Bill can replenish his energy level by seeking out power ups in the form of falafel.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (December 05, 2007 3:21 pm ET)
         

      Meh. I don't really think this is a progressive/liberal/conservative issue. Businesses will do what they think will make them the most money (or lose them the least), and figured out they should bring more focus back to Christmas rather than the "holidays."

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      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (December 05, 2007 4:47 pm ET)
           

        100% correct, but Bill would have you believe that his boogeymen "secular progressives" (which itself is just his special catchphrase for "those d*mn America hating libruls") are the ones behind the evil plot to destroy Christmas.  Capitalism can't do wrong, it must be the fault of someone else.

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      • Author by mefirst (December 05, 2007 7:55 pm ET)
           

        it is precisely a business decision, as shown by this link from a couple years ago.  blowhard o'reilly was going on about replacing merry christmas with "happy holidays", and as you can see in the link, fox was doing the same thing with ornaments.

        http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200511300006?f=s_search

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      • Author by wvhart6757 (December 06, 2007 12:08 am ET)
           

           Why do you so hate capitalism, Bill? If you can't stare down capitalism.....................

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      • Author by MiddleLeft (December 06, 2007 9:12 am ET)
           

        Businesses......... figured out they should bring more focus back to Christmas rather than the "holidays."

         I don't understand that conclusion.

        Which businesses changed their policy on Christmas as described?  Did I miss that in the article or did Bill reveal such details?

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    • Author by snoopy (December 05, 2007 3:22 pm ET)
         

      An imaginary victory in an imaginary war. Now Bill can put on his imaginary flight suit and land on the deck of his imaginary aircraft carrier to claim "mission accomplished". Imagine that.

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    • Author by watershed (December 05, 2007 3:24 pm ET)
         

      Thank god it's over. Now we can bring our brave elves home from the front.

      But seriously, what will John Gibson do? Is he aware the war's over?

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      • Author by onionhead (December 05, 2007 4:43 pm ET)
           

        Thank God that Lee Majors got to the North Pole in time to save Christmas. 

        I will always remember that night as "The Night the Reindeer died".    

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 05, 2007 11:51 pm ET)
           

        Thank god it's over. Now we can bring our brave elves home from the front.

        Watershed, THAT was funny!

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        • Author by Conchobhar (December 06, 2007 12:14 am ET)
             

          I would have said that first, but I had to clean the coffee off my screen.

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    • Author by Marker (December 05, 2007 3:27 pm ET)
         

      There is one group being overlooked (I'm not a PETA member) and that is the reindeer, Bill what about it, Rudolph doesn't count?

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    • Author by Governor (December 05, 2007 3:37 pm ET)
         

      I'm sending Bill O'Reilly a $100 gift certificate to The Jackass Store this Christmas.  I know it's impersonal, but what does one get a man who thinks he is everything?

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    • Author by chrisdutch89 (December 05, 2007 3:38 pm ET)
         

      Bill-O, my ass is under the mistletoe, please kiss it.

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    • Author by justicetruthus8276 (December 05, 2007 3:39 pm ET)
         

      O'Reilly: "If I had not done the campaign, then the forces of darkness would have won" the "war" on Christmas

      The New and Improved Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check Edition:

      I personally do not care if the ACLU sues me or I get "banned" from MMFA - I going to say it!

       

      Merry Christmas!

       

      Happy Birthday Jesus!!

       

      AMEN!

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 3:41 pm ET)
           

        ...and a safe and happy Hannukah to you, JT.

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      • Author by Governor (December 05, 2007 3:52 pm ET)
           

        "The New and Improved Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check"

         

        You keep using these words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 05, 2007 4:10 pm ET)
           

        Well JT, now that the war's over apparently, a Merry Christmas to you to you, my friend.  Take care over the holidays.  This place wouldn't be nearly as fun without you around!

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      • Author by greekfurnace (December 05, 2007 4:39 pm ET)
           

        Hahaha...! If you only knew how funny you really are... But, then it probably wouldn't be that funny.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 05, 2007 4:47 pm ET)
           

        Happy Holidays Happy Kwanzaa Feliz Navidad

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      • Author by mefirst (December 05, 2007 8:10 pm ET)
           

        justicetruth is the typical "whiner".  he doesn't  care if he's banned for saying merry christmas.  what a brave little troll, ever the victim.  guess what nimrod, we don't care if you say it.   i say it myself if someone says it to me.   

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      • Author by LeftSidePositive (December 06, 2007 2:41 pm ET)
           

        Justhistruthiness,

        Let me TRY to explain this to you...the ACLU would NEVER infringe upon an individual's right to say whatever they want (the C and L stand for Civil Liberties, after all!).

        Even private corporations can say whatever they want (within truth in advertising laws, of course), but a lot of them choose to say "Happy Holidays" in their promotions because that way they reach a wider market than just Christians, and can make more $$--that's the free market at work for you.

        The issue is when GOVERNMENTS use public funds to promote one religion or another. The government has an obligation to respect all viewpoints, and not to establish a religion.

        THAT'S what we mean when we say "Get religion out of the public square"--get government-mandated or government-serving religion out of the public square. No one is saying you, an individual, can't openly profess your religion in public.

        People who like to take advantage of religion for personal or political gain (esp. social conservatives) have lied to you and many others by saying that liberals/progressives are trying to take away personal free expression, when what we're really trying to do is prevent the cheap manipulation of the religious beliefs of the populace.

        And by the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

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      • Author by solon (December 07, 2007 12:14 am ET)
           

        I personally dont care what a jerk you are but are you EVER going to come within miles of a cogent argument or is this abject stupidity all you have? Your trolldom is ignorant and boring. Your stupidity makes you an object of pity and you are simply embarassing.

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    • Author by tbone (December 05, 2007 3:46 pm ET)
         

      Bill's use of the term "war on", in the absence of actual human killing on killing or formal declaration inures us to the violence, loss, savagery, and bloodshed of actual war.  This bumper sticker slogan as overblown rhetoric, diminishes and dishonors the sacrifice of those who have experienced the horrors of the real thing.  Bill, why do you hate the troops?

      And what does or doesn't go up in the public square is low on my priority list.  The first order of business is to scrape In God We Trust off our money and get "Under God" back out of the pledge.

      A proud member of the forces of darkness.

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      • Author by conleytgwinn (December 05, 2007 5:44 pm ET)
           

        I'll drink (coffee) to that! I was in school in W. Va. when the Pledge was amended by Congress. Fortunately, when I (the eldest) inquired/objected to the addition of "under God", my parents clobbered the school, and we were permitted to omit those words in the daily recitation. This, despite having five official churches surrounding the school, and hearing the Holy Rollers' services whenever we visited my grandmother.

        Of course, the numerous owners and patrons of the various saloons in and around town did not participate in the discussion - not even the White Horse, where several murders were planned or committed; so I am unclear to this day as to whether the "forces of darkness" were even aware of the forerunners of this "War" of O'Lielly's.

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        • Author by Conchobhar (December 06, 2007 12:28 am ET)
             

          I guess we're of an age, Conley.  I remember, as a student in Catholic school (and son of DEVOUT Catholics) being troubled by the change.  I'd already started to distrust the nuns & priests (no, I was never abused, nor have I heard that it ever happened in that parish).  Most of all, I disliked the way the inserted two words interrupted the flow of the pledge.

          Murders committed and planned in the White Horse; Hatfields and McCoys?

          By coincidence, the White Horse was the name of the bar in NY where Dylan Thomas committed suicide by shot glass.

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    • Author by Marker (December 05, 2007 3:47 pm ET)
         

      Truthy getting banned from MM, that's a nice X-Mas present.

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    • Author by Man_or_Astroman (December 05, 2007 3:52 pm ET)
         

      ...And our modern-day Beowulf celebrated his triumph by sitting in front of his fireplace, sipping on some hot cocoa (with marshmallows), a tray of Falafals for him and Santa Claus, next to a Christmas trees made of back-issues of the Paris Buisness Review.

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    • Author by Sueelldd (December 05, 2007 3:52 pm ET)
         

      Great , we have our token we hate Oreilly thread, now it will be recycled tonight on Olbermann. Good God.

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      • Author by Marker (December 05, 2007 3:54 pm ET)
           

        It gives Keith another chance to hit one out of the park, God I love his show!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Author by doggone-ga (December 05, 2007 3:57 pm ET)
           

        "now it will be recycled tonight on Olbermann"

        Yep!  Ain't life grand?

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 05, 2007 3:57 pm ET)
           

        Wow,Sue, you seem to be really excited about this "Olbermann" fellow. Is he a hero of yours? ;0)

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 4:04 pm ET)
           

        ...and we have our token O'Reilly apologist.  Thank you, Sueeld.

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        • Author by Sueelldd (December 05, 2007 4:14 pm ET)
             

          Yeah if you have read my posts you know I think OReilly is a liar. Real token OReilly apologist here.

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          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 4:26 pm ET)
               

            Sorry, Sueeld.  Hope you come back to the 'light side' soon.

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          • Author by pete592 (December 05, 2007 5:13 pm ET)
               

            And the liar who gets the most basic cable crumbs has no business being further exposed for the liar he is by a competitor for the same crumbs.

            Nanny nanny poo poo. 

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          • Author by solon (December 07, 2007 12:18 am ET)
               

            And yet you come in here WHINING like a pathetic sniveller about this being a hate O'Reilly piece. Grow up

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      • Author by kromecom48 (December 05, 2007 6:03 pm ET)
           

        Sue. There is NO WAR ON CHRISTMAS. Never has been. Its disinformation and divisive ratings for ratings sake and the "raison d'etre" of MMFA. If you find it tiresome for this site to do it's job why do you post?

        It's okay for you to like O'Reilly. But he is a proven hypocrite and right wing propagandist so I just don't understand why highlighting it annoys you so much.

        We're not the ones attacking afterall, we're responding to attacks on the left.

        And BTW, you can be both religious AND secular in terms of governance. Afterall, we're trying to establish secularist states in Iraq and Afghanistan.

         

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      • Author by solon (December 07, 2007 12:16 am ET)
           

        You are pathetic. This is a classic bit of con misinformation with a side helping of O'falafel meglomania. Please get over yourself.

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    • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 3:55 pm ET)
         

      Forces of darkness?  Interesting choice of words.  I thought it was Rush who hated the blacks, and BillO was just surprised at how civilized they can be.

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    • Author by doggone-ga (December 05, 2007 3:56 pm ET)
         

      I think we should start a new campaign...get everyone we know to send Bill a "Happy Holidays" card or email!

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      • Author by robotchubby (December 05, 2007 4:26 pm ET)
           

        I just did.

        "We wish you a Happy Holiday!  We wish you a Happy Holiday!  We wish you a Happy Holiday and a Merry New Year!"

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      • Author by Blueneck (December 05, 2007 4:32 pm ET)
           

        And of course a glorious Eid ul-Adha which falld on December 20th this year.

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        • Author by anotheramerican (December 05, 2007 4:40 pm ET)
             

          Blue,

          Interesting that you posted that. This islamic holiday commemorates Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son, who was replaced by a lamb. 

          The symbolism is great. Thanks! 

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          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 4:47 pm ET)
               

            It is kind of nuts that the three major religions in this country all stem from a guy who heard a disembodied voice telling him to slaughter his own child.

            Just a little secular note for a religious-minded thread.

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            • Author by Blueneck (December 05, 2007 6:17 pm ET)
                 

              And of course let us not forget that there is the question of whether or not GWB hears voices.

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            • Author by mefirst (December 05, 2007 7:46 pm ET)
                 

              "god said, abraham kill me a son.  abe say man, you must be putting me on.  god say no, and abe say what.  god say you can do what you want abe, but next time you see me coming you better run.  abe say where you want this killing done, god say out on highway 61."   

              sort of sums it all up.

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    • Author by robotchubby (December 05, 2007 4:10 pm ET)
         

      I feel for Bill.  I, too, almost single-handedly won a war that very few people (about 30% of the population) were aware of or even acknowledged.  But I ask you this, how many of you have been denied having someone wish you Happy Birthday or give you a cake.  Thanks to my efforts, we can all still do that!

      Your Birthday Culture Warrior.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 05, 2007 4:57 pm ET)
           

        robotchubby, understand that a genuine culture warrior celebrates on the date of conception, not the insignificant day that the person leaves the womb.

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      • Author by pete592 (December 05, 2007 5:22 pm ET)
           

        While Bill was waging his war on the televisions of retirements homes across America, the rest of the basic cable viewership was busy watching NFL, NASCAR, and WWE. 

        More people cared about what Sponge Bob Square Pants had to say about Christmas.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (December 05, 2007 4:33 pm ET)
         

      T Tbone,

      I don't see your point?  Maybe you can shed some light regarding who are the forces of darkness?

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      • Author by tbone (December 05, 2007 4:50 pm ET)
           

        In Bill's mind, I am a "force of darkness" in that I agree with the ACLU position on religious displays.  I also believe use of the term God as cited are unconstitutional.

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    • Author by moe (December 05, 2007 4:51 pm ET)
         

      You can't make this stuff up...

      Do you think he understands that people are laughing at him or is just completely oblivious to his clownish behavior?  (Hold on a sec. there's a dark force at my door who wants me to remove Santa from my lawn...They're everywhere man!!!)

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    • Author by Clevenative (December 05, 2007 4:59 pm ET)
         

      Why does this guy even bother having guests on his show? Rarely are they allowed to finish a sentence (or even begin one) without his interuption.

      He is so full of himself - he may as well just be sitting in front of a mirror so at least he can have somewhere looking back at him and taking it seriously.

      I am 55 years old. Religious symbols in public places has been an issue during the Holiday Season since as far back as I can remember (and I am sure for long before that). The only reason that BillO had any warriors at all for his perceived war is because he took advantage of the rising tide of Christian fundamentalism over the past few years. Much like GW took advantage of the rise of Patriotism in the nation by leading us into his war in Iraq right after 9/11. Timing is everything. BillO is no Cultural Warrior - he's just another Oportunist. (Another example of "the pot calling the kettle black".)

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      • Author by Clevenative (December 05, 2007 5:02 pm ET)
           

        Oops - "somewhere looking back at him" = "someone looking back at him". (I don't think I've posted once today without a typo!)

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    • Author by edbermac (December 05, 2007 5:00 pm ET)
         

      Thanks, Bill!

       When are they putting your face on Mt Rushmore?

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    • Author by noconspiracy (December 05, 2007 5:25 pm ET)
         

      Welcome to Bill O'Reilly's Christmas Club! - "Club" meaning "blunt object", of course.Hoo boy, this stuff has even started to seep into my local (Austin) newspaper.I'm 37 years old, and "Happy Holidays" has been around longer than I have, as has the even-less-specific "Season's Greetings".As a kid, none of the adults around me, not even those much older and much more religiously devout, ever once took either of these greetings to mean "Absence of Christianity".Not now,at least not on FOX. Why now? Because O'Reilly, Gibson, et al want the public to believe that "Happy Holidays",etc. is some sort of tofu-turkey, soybean-and broccoli fruit cake, substitute holiday forced through the courts by Ralph Nader, Janeane Garofalo and Michael Moore.What keeps them and their audience from seeing the INclusiveness of these greetings? After all, they do want to SHARE the season with others, don't they? Would it kill them to just think of it as "Christmas and Friends"? Next up: the "War on Independence Day", because "July 4th" isnt patriotic enough! I just hope their heads melt trying to concoct a "War on Easter".

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    • Author by manndan (December 05, 2007 5:52 pm ET)
         

      I first heard about the WAR ON CHRISTMAS on church lady Janet Parshall's radio show a couple of years before Bogus Bill started talking about it.  Does the wingnut scream machine have a second team to test their talking points with before the varsity uses them.

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    • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 05, 2007 5:59 pm ET)
         

      Here is something O'Reilly can put on his Christmas War Tree:

      http://www.misspoppy.com/catalog/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16346

       

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    • Author by jakerforever (December 05, 2007 6:03 pm ET)
         

      I love how BOR and his guest clearly want to talk about different things...Kelley anti-consumerism, and BOR, himself.  She brings a topic just close enough to serve as an excuse for him to beat his own chest about something that's unrelated to what she's all about (except that they both involve 'Christmas').

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    • Author by worrierking (December 05, 2007 7:25 pm ET)
         

      O'Reilly: "If I had not done the campaign, then the forces of darkness would have won" the "war" on Christmas"

      Hold on there O'Reilly. We still have troops in the field. I saw a platoon of culture warriors surrounding the tree and nativity scene on our town's green.

      I asked the troops if they knew the war had ended and they replied that they haven't received their orders. They're staying put until they hear from Papa Bear himself.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 05, 2007 7:30 pm ET)
           

        *shhh... Worrierking.... don't let on. This will be rememebered as BilldO's "Mission Accomplished" moment.

        The surge is in the works.heh heh *

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 05, 2007 7:31 pm ET)
             

          and I'll spell "remembered" any damn way I want to !

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          • Author by mescal (December 05, 2007 9:01 pm ET)
               

            RADICAL!!!

            And so thusly have the Forces of Darkness begun their War on Spelling. 

            Time to once again muster the troops, Billo. 

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          • Author by worrierking (December 05, 2007 9:46 pm ET)
               

            Don't admit mistakes. Only the weak do that HBL, and we are definitely the strong ones.

            At first you misremembered and then you had to unmisremember.

            It all makes sense.

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            • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 06, 2007 1:55 am ET)
                 

              Mistake? Who admitted a mistake? I stated very clearly that I WILL SPELL REMMEMEMEBER ANY DAMN WAY I WANT TO!!

              You're free to spell it the tired old Traditional Warrior way, but don't expect to hang out with the S.P.'s. We will destroy Xmas,heterosexual marriage, proper spelling, and all else that is Holy and good.

              Rememememebbe,e, we make the rules. And don't get too comfortable with my most recent spelling of rremememebeber,I might mix it up tomorrow, or next week.That's how far-out I am!

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              • Author by worrierking (December 06, 2007 8:12 am ET)
                   

                It's really strange but my speel cheker in my brouser acepts tha wurd misremembered as a valed wurd.

                My cumputor is on the same wavlenth as yu ar.

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          • Author by solon (December 07, 2007 12:21 am ET)
               

            We gotta watch you secular progressives and your war on spelling

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    • Author by Brabantio (December 05, 2007 9:00 pm ET)
         

      This is ridiculous.  O'Reilly can claim credit for vanquishing the "forces of darkness" by just griping about people saying "Happy Holidays".  But when I rid my neighborhood of those same forces by sacrificing a goat in the middle of the street, all I get is static about "schizophrenia" and "delusions of grandeur".  What's the difference?

      Seriously, religion never belonged in the public square.  Apparently following the Constitution is some sort of evil. 

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      • Author by atheist (December 06, 2007 11:52 am ET)
           

        You make an execellent point despite your jest.

        If I claim that god told me to do something, even if I'm not an atheist, nobody will believe me.  Why is that ?  God can help me win an award, but he can't tell me things ?   Perhaps if I don a sparkly robe and sprinkle water around, then people will take me seriously.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (December 05, 2007 9:31 pm ET)
         

      If the war is over then its mustering out time, right Bill? Bill...BILL! Don't run away Bill!

      Some people are just born for faux conflict, some born to have it inflicted upon them. The pays good right?

      The Sons of Icthor Anti Chrismas Insurgency will meet tonight in the basement of the National Guard Armory. Bring a covered dish, no medicinal based ones this time please, or they'll start requiring a cleaning deposit. 

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    • Author by mari2j (December 05, 2007 10:43 pm ET)
         

      It is amazing for Bill O'Reilly to make such a statement that he alone saved"Christ in Christmas".  Surely he is familiar with the old Scripture verse that says plainly that even the gates of Hell shall not prevail against God's Kingdom.  He puffs himself up far too much.  It almost sounds like God could not maintain his Kingdom without the good services of Bill.  If anything, Bill may want to examine himself to make sure he is not a hindrance to the Kingdom of God.  He totally misses the message of the New Testament that commands that we "do good to those who spitefully use us","Love one another", "in honor, preferring one another".  Poor thing totally misses the joy of being a Christian.  He harbors such hateful feelings that then come out of his mouth as judgmental sayings.  The great thing about being a Christian is that it gives us a loving heart, commands us to rise above petty judgments and to let the "Mind of Christ be in us."

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    • Author by j238 (December 05, 2007 11:00 pm ET)
         

      Is 'force of darkness' O'Reilly's new phrase instead of secular progressives? 

      So, Bill has claimed victory in a non-existent war against a non-existent enemy.

      What is Bill's response to anyone who questions his nonsense?  "You're a moron!"

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    • Author by FNC Liberal (December 06, 2007 2:17 am ET)
         

      Bill is full of baloney. This wife cheater thinks he influenced all stores to change their policies regarding Christmas. I seriously doubt Bill had anything to do. Conservative radio talk show hosts across the nation also raised this same issue. Sorry Bill, but this campaign was pushed by other people, not just you. So no credit to you.

      No Christmas card for you Bill. You are not worth the cost of a card.

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 07, 2007 12:40 pm ET)
           

        Don't forget - he single handedly wrecked the economy of France as well.  Don't mess with the falafel-man!

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    • Author by atheist (December 06, 2007 11:54 am ET)
         

      I love his bloodlust.  She wants to talkabout peace and love, and he's salivating over a war.  This is the true meaning of Christmas to him, apparently.

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    • Author by ysbaddaden20035928 (December 07, 2007 3:58 pm ET)
         

      So he defeated the forces of darkness huh?

      Geeze Louise, but Harry Potter has aged bad. 

       

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