MSNBC's Hall referred to McCain and Lieberman as "maverick[s]"
During the December 17 broadcast of MSNBC Live, anchor Tamron Hall said of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ): "[H]e's been called, certainly, a maverick, but can he now be called the new comeback kid?" Hall then returned to the "maverick" label, asserting that "McCain now has the support from another maverick in his bid for president," referring to Sen. Joe Lieberman's (I-CT) endorsement of McCain.
Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented media figures describing McCain as a "maverick," despite the various instances in which McCain has fallen in line with the Bush administration or the Republican Party establishment or has taken inconsistent positions on a variety of issues. Carolyn Washburn, editor of The Des Moines Register -- the Iowa newspaper that has also endorsed McCain -- moderated the December 12 GOP debate, during which she asked: "Senator McCain, your reputation as a maverick has put you at odds with your own party leadership from time to time. Give us an example of a time you wished you had compromised to get something done instead of holding firm on your ideals."
From the December 17 edition of MSNBC Live:
HALL: Good morning, I'm Tamron Hall. MSNBC is the place for politics. And we start off with John McCain. He's been called, certainly, a maverick, but can he now be called the new comeback kid? Fresh off two key newspaper endorsements over the weekend, Senator McCain now has the support from another maverick in his bid for president. This morning in Hillsborough, New Hampshire, independent Democrat Joe Lieberman, Al Gore's running mate back in 2000, officially announced his endorsement.
LIEBERMAN: We desperately need our next president to break through the reflexive partisanship that is poisoning our politics today and stopping us from getting anything done in Washington for the American people, who are good enough to send us there.
These two are not mavericks, they are both warmongers.
Joe " turncoat " Liebermann is a maverick ? John " suck up to Bush " McCain is a maveric ? save the titles to more deserving people who actually have the balls to change things.
Joe Lieberman is a one issue wonder. If the 'war' on terror was related more to Ireland than Israel, he wouldn't care about it.
Joe doesn't care how much damage he does to America, as long as Israel's genocide in "the Holy Land" is protected.
And ... no .... I'm not a Palestinian supporter either.
mavericks with big baggage are slow moving...Obama and Kucinich want public financing of campaigns...no more bundling of 2200.00 checks to be given to the most desperate hooker-candidate.
Maybe we can call them Brett and Bart? (Yes, that dates me.) :-)
You read my mind AA ;-)
Please enough of this Maverick crap.
There were only 3 legitimate Mavericks:
LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell
Bret Maverick
Bart Maverick
Any others mentioned here are frauds.
There were only 3 legitimate Mavericks:
LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell
Bret Maverick
Bart Maverick
Any others mentioned here are frauds.
You forgot the Ford Maverick.
Ha! I forgot about the late & not so great Ford Maverick gone the same way of the late Ford Edsel...
I'm embarrassed to admit I once owed an ugly green Maverick back in the 70's. Then one night a drunk driver came flying around the corner & totaled it [it was parked at the time], putting it out of it's misery ;-)
Don't feel too bad. Jeter - I ownwd a 1973 Chevy Vega. My first ex got custory of it along witht he kids, and drove that car into the ground in a few months by not checking the oil.
And at one time, my father and my two sisters all owned 1971 Ford Pintos.....
Ah the Chevy Vega...another one of those cars no one likes to admit they owned ;-)
I almost bought a Pinto when they first came out, but at the time the dealer only had 2 colors available on the lot...a kind of bright sky blue & I think white or beige/tan. So I passed.
Those things were tin cans eh?
I'll admit it.
I bought a new Vega in 1974 for $1999.
Bright orange too.
Bright orange King?
Were you stoned when you bought it? ;-)
Probably, it was the seventies.
Sweet, Jeter. I'm just picturing you pulling into the parking lot of The House that Ruth Built in this.
Heck Beach that's one ugly vehicle BUT it's a step up from what I owned ;-)
This is more like mine:
http://www.countryboyautosales.ca/Auctions/21July2007/Cars/1975%20ford%20maverick/01.jpg
Yeah not too cool for a cool guy like me :-/
Jeter, my friend, the link is broken and doesn't work. Dang I really wanted to see the Jetermobile!
"Jeter, my friend, the link is broken and doesn't work."
It worked fine for me
You're forgetting cousin Beau Maverick (Roger Moore).
Right you are King. I forgot about Beau.
Hey this is fun...how many more Mavericks can we think of?
Hey I've got another:
Dallas Mavericks!
Beau was only brought on because Jack Kelly, (Bart) got sick. If you remember Roger Moore played the role of the English cousin.
James Garner made the show.
There also was a knock off series about some young relatives that I don't think lasted long.
AA,
You seemed to be the Maverick expert here, so if this turns into another Andy Griffith/Mayberry thing ...you should get first dibs on which Maverick [Bret, Bart, Beau or assorted relatives] you want to be ;-)
I think I resemble Mel. :-)
There was an oil mans gofer in a Looney Tune. He never spoke, His boss always refferred to him as MAVERICK!! They blew themselves up, a comon final ending in arguments with Bugs.
What about Tom Cruise?
Already mentioned him:
LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell
Doh.
AA, That ends this conversation, Old Man. Think you can stay awake for more posts.
ehh what?
Lieberman and McCain buck their party line (although Liebs is technically an I) constantly.
Funny! I doubt this thread will stirrup much controversy. :-)
Saddled with such a bland topic, one indeed might look longingly at greener pastures - but we must exert the effort to rein in that runaway.
They're also both very good at flip-flopping and changing their views to pander to their audience.
I never said they weren't politicians.
Ha! You called it Dex.
I'd like someone here to name me a politician that hasn't flip-flopped.
Rasputin...er, okay that's a stretch...
Seems to me that Lieberman has always been consistent to a degree with his positions. He is a principled man. I disagree with his views on Iraq, but it's not as if we are dealing with a Tom Delay type of fakeness here. Lieberman at least deserves respect for standing by his principles. The Democratic party can usually count on him to further their agenda. Lieberman has always been a moderate but a maverick, probably not he's too booring in my view.
Seems to me that Lieberman has always been consistent to a degree with his positions. He is a principled man.
Tell that to the people of New Orleans, after Lieberman campaigned on promises of investigations and holding officials accountable regarding Katrina. Turns out he was talking out of his *ss and didn't do one damn thing about Katrina, despite being the chairman of the Senate Gov't affairs committee. This link shows that he hasn't held a hearing since taking the chairmanship. And that is just one glaring example of his principles and commitment.
Look, I ain't saying he's perfect. I mean, he IS a politician. You point out how he is inconsistent on his promises. All I was saying is that on a whole he has been consistent with his views on the issues. You and I may agree or disagree with his views, but all in all I think Lieberman is o.k. Seems to me that the Democrats loved him in 2000 and now they can find all kinds of things wrong with him.
Both of these men are complete and total frauds. For one Lieberman is a cocky , arrogant SOB. He tries to pretend he is not partisan, yet all along the number one reason in his mind is supporting a war most Americans hate. And McCain uses his experience as a POW to continue to promote the war and divide America. These two are part of the old problem and old guard of division in America, they act like they are the answer they are not.
Although I said it below about respecting McCain, I do agree with you Sue, in that he does use his POW experience to trump policy guidance.
Camera hound, media whore, panderer, Democrat.
I think those words describe McCain more accurately than "Maverick."
McCain? Really? I wonder how he feels about this. And since he has converted, how is it that the Senate is still split 51-49? You'd think those numbers would change when someone switches parties.
I for one respect McCain, even if I don't agree with him, almost ever. The man spent 5 years in a POW camp for crying out loud.
Wasn't Tommy last week going on about how much Lieberman toes the Democratic Party line? Of course, he was doing so without actual information to support him.
I'd say this endorsement is a bit of a move away from that.
Actually, I said that Liebermann caucases with the Democrats giving the Dems a majority in the Senate - there was no mention of, to use your exact words, "towing" any party line.
As for his votes, I haven't kept up with them one way or the other, so I can't say if he votes with them a majority of the time or not.
But thanks for thinking of me.
"toeing", excuse me.
Your statements were a little less than I suggested, but they were also a little more than you suggest. You stated
I guess your non-answer means the two Independents I mentioned must have voted consistently with the Democrats, which makes your 49-49 point just a numbers irrelevancy.
Dems control the Senate.
That is a little more than an observation that he caucuses with the Democrats.
My main point, though, is that this endorsement explodes the myth of Lieberman as a Democrat in Independent's clothing.
I would think that most Americans don't want another Maverick in the White House. Having synonyms such as "rebel, nonconformist, unorthodox, and irregular" - it seems to be a poor choice of words for anyone to use as a positive attribute for any presidential candidate they support.
You would think that the cowboy in office now would be enough to make Maverick a dirty word.
We need a president that will help bridge the partisanship in American politics and not another whose favorite song is "My Way".
What should they be called media matters? Traitors? Blasphemers?
Do you know why you have to be so nitpicky? Because of studies like THIS out of Harvard, hardly a bastion of conservative thought.