Misinformation of the Year
December 21, 2007 8:56 pm ET
It's still not just Imus
Media Matters for America usually takes the opportunity at the end of the year to name a Misinformer of the Year, an individual or media entity who in that year has made a noteworthy "contribution" to the advancement of conservative misinformation. This year -- a year in which Don Imus was removed from his decades-long radio program following a reference to the Rutgers women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos" (Imus returned to the air in December) -- Media Matters has decided to change the focus of the year-end item. The Imus controversy resulted in intense media attention to the subject of speech concerning race and gender. At the time, Media Matters thought it necessary to remind the media that "It's not just Imus" -- that speech targeting, among other characteristics, race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, and ethnicity permeates the airwaves, through personalities including Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Savage. But offensive and degrading speech is not limited to conservative media personalities and "shock jocks," although they are, of course, well-represented on any such list. As Media Matters has documented throughout this year, speech that targets or casts in a negative light race, gender, religion, ethnicity, national origin, and sexual orientation can be found throughout the media, and it often bears directly on politics and policy. That speech has earned the title of Misinformation of the Year 2007.
Race or national origin
- Fox News host John Gibson,
discussing events surrounding the so-called Jena Six during the September 21 broadcast of
his nationally syndicated Fox News Radio show, asserted that the demonstrators who had
gathered the previous week in Jena, Louisiana, "wanna fight the white devil."
Gibson aired news coverage of the Jena 6 protests
and challenged protestors' claims that the incidents in Jena were representative
of ongoing racism in this country. He said: "[W]hat they're worried about is a
mirage of 1950s-style American segregation, racism from the South. They wanna
fight the white devil. ... [T]here's no -- can't go fight the black devil. Black
devils stalking their streets every night gunning down their own people -- can't
go fight that. That would be snitchin'."
Gibson also stated during the October 10 broadcast of his radio show, while discussing an incident in which a student shot four people at his Cleveland high school before killing himself, that "I know the shooter was white. I knew it as soon as he shot himself. Hip-hoppers don't do that. They shoot and move on to shoot again." - Nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage claimed on Martin Luther King Day (January 15) that "civil rights" has become a "con" and asserted, "It's a racket that is used to exploit primarily heterosexual, Christian, white males' birthright and steal from them what is their birthright and give it to people who didn't qualify for it."
- On the February 7 edition of the Christian Broadcasting Network's 700 Club, host Pat Robertson said that people who have received too much plastic surgery "got the eyes like they're Oriental" while he put his fingers up to the side of his face.
- Discussing a dinner with Rev. Al Sharpton at the Harlem restaurant Sylvia's, during the September 19 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, Bill O'Reilly stated that he "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly said: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all." O'Reilly also stated: "I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the [Rev. Jesse] Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out. 'Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it.'"
- On the June 18 broadcast of his nationally
syndicated radio show, Neal Boortz advocated building a "double fence along the
Mexican border, and stop the damn invasion." Boortz continued: "I don't care if
Mexicans pile up against that fence like tumbleweeds in the Santa Ana winds in Southern
California. Let 'em. You know, then just run a couple of taco trucks
up and down the line, and somebody's gonna be a millionaire out of
that."
On the June 11 edition of his show, a caller asked, "Why can't we just load them on planes and keep on loading them until they're back?" Boortz later responded, "We're not gonna throw these people out of airplanes with taco-shaped parachutes."
During his June 21 show, Boortz offered a suggestion he said he got from a listener's email: "When we defeat this illegal alien amnesty bill, and when we yank out the welcome mat, and they all start going back to Mexico, as a going away gift let's all give them a box of nuclear waste." Boortz continued: "Give 'em all a little nuclear waste and let 'em take it on down there to Mexico. Tell 'em it can -- it'll heat tortillas." - In his book Day of Reckoning: How Hubris, Ideology, and Greed Are Tearing America Apart (Thomas Dunne Books, November 2007), MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan writes that America is "on a path to national suicide" and later asks: "How is America committing suicide?" answering: "Every way a nation can." He proceeds to claim that "[t]he American majority is not reproducing itself. ... Forty-five million of its young have been destroyed in the womb since Roe v. Wade, as Asian, African, and Latin American children come to inherit the estate the lost generation of American children never got to see." On the November 26 edition of Hannity & Colmes, Buchanan asserted: "You've got a wholesale invasion, the greatest invasion in human history, coming across your southern border, changing the composition and character of your country. You've got the melting pot that once welded us all together, which has broken down."
- On the May 17 edition of his radio program, Savage labeled Hispanic advocacy group the National Council of La Raza (NCLR) "the Ku Klux Klan of the Hispanic people." Savage also said of NCLR, "This is the most stone racist group I've ever seen in this country!" despite noting, "It's true they haven't hung anybody."
- During his July 5 radio show, Savage discussed a hunger strike organized by five students in the San Francisco area to show their support for The DREAM Act, a provision of the 2007 comprehensive immigration bill that was blocked in the Senate on June 28 (S.1639). The DREAM (or Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors) Act would provide a pathway to citizenship and other benefits for certain illegal immigrants who entered the United States before the age of 16 if they graduate from high school and enroll in either college or the military. In discussing the students, Savage stated: "I would say, let them fast until they starve to death then that solves the problem. Because then we won't have a problem about giving them green cards because they're illegal aliens, they don't belong here to begin with." The DREAM Act was later brought up in the Senate as a stand-alone bill (S.2205). That bill was also blocked.
- On the January 16 broadcast of his radio show, O'Reilly agreed with a caller's assertion that illegal immigrants "bring corrupting influences" to the United States, including "a third-world value system" that "can corrupt the education system." O'Reilly replied: "Absolutely. And that's why the dropout rate is so high."
Gender
- During the December 17 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, while discussing endorsements Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) received for her presidential campaign, host Chris Matthews claimed: "Every day I pick up the paper and there's another quote out there from somebody who's a wannabe, saying whatever the Clinton people told them to say apparently." Moments later, Matthews asked Financial Times U.S. managing editor Chrystia Freeland: "[A]ren't you appalled at the willingness of these people to become castratos in the eunuch chorus here or whatever they are?"
- On the March 20 edition of MSNBC show, Tucker Carlson said of Hillary Clinton: "[T]here's just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary." Carlson has also said: "[W]hen she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs."
- Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh repeatedly used the expression "testicle lockbox," suggesting that Clinton has one.
- On the March 15 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Glenn Beck said: "Hillary Clinton cannot be elected president because ... there's something about her vocal range." He went on to say, "There's something about her voice that just drives me -- it's not what she says, it's how she says it," adding, "She is like the stereotypical -- excuse the expression, but this is the way to -- she's the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?" Beck also asked: "[A]fter four years, don't you think every man in America will go insane?" and pleaded, "I'm sorry for being such a pig. But please, America. Please. I don't think I could do it for four years. I mean, sure the country is going to go to hell in a handbasket, but could we make this about me for a second? I just don't think I could take it from her." He also said that "there is a range in women's voices that experts say is just the chalk, I mean, the fingernails on the blackboard."
- On November 12, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (AZ) fielded a question from a woman who asked, "How do we beat the bitch?" On the November 14 edition of CNN's American Morning, during a discussion with co-anchor Kiran Chetry about McCain's response to the question, Politico chief political correspondent Mike Allen said, "[W]hat Republican voter hasn't thought that? What voter in general hasn't thought that?"
- On the October 15 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, Carlson asserted that "the Clinton campaign says: 'Hillary isn't running as a woman.' ...Well, that's actually completely false, considering the Hillary campaign -- and I get their emails -- relentlessly pushes the glass ceiling argument. 'You should vote for her because she's a woman.' They say that all the time." Guest Cliff May, president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, responded: "At least call her a Vaginal-American."
- Discussing Rep. Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) speech following her election as the nation's first female Speaker of the House, Limbaugh noted on the January 5 broadcast of his show that Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC) said that, in Limbaugh's words, "his 2-year-old daughter ... is inspired by Nancy Pelosi's ascension to the speakership." Limbaugh then commented, "His 2-year-old can't possibly know who Pelosi is other than as a cartoon figure on television. Maybe Pelosi breastfed him, I don't know, when the kid was pregnant. Who knows? She's capable of doing everything else." Limbaugh later added: "[L]ook at Ms. Pelosi. Why, she can multitask. She can breastfeed, she can clip her toenails, she can direct the House, all while the kids are sitting on her lap at the same time."
- On the December 12 broadcast of his radio show, Savage referred to Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA), Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), and Pelosi as "yentas," said Harman should "[g]o home and cook verenikis," and suggested that the three were in office because they "have rich husbands who put them in power with their money, so they could have a little hobby in between getting their nails done." Savage later asked his "board operator" if he would rather "be waterboarded for 30 seconds or eat Jane Harman's ravioli" and whether he'd rather "be waterboarded or eat Nancy Pelosi's tortellini."
Religion
False attacks on Obama
- On January 17, the conservative online news magazine InsightMag.com published an article headlined "Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background." The article alleged that "researchers" connected to Clinton's campaign had "discovered" that Obama "was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia," and "spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia." The article cited only unnamed "[s]ources close to the background check" on Obama. The story was quickly debunked by CNN and others, who found that the Indonesian school Obama attended as a child was not a "madrassa," and that claims of Obama's "Muslim background" were based largely on incomplete and inaccurate reporting. After investigating these claims, the Chicago Tribune reported that "Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia." Moreover, as ABC News chief political correspondent Jake Tapper noted in a January 25 ABCNews.com post, the allegation that the Clinton campaign was behind the Obama smear was a "charge that remains unproven and unsubstantiated." Despite the Insight article's thin sourcing and the fact that it was quickly debunked, the article became a flash point for a smear against Obama that has persisted in the media.
- On January 23, KSFO Morning Show hosts Melanie Morgan and Lee Rodgers repeated the accusation that "researchers connected to" Clinton have said that Obama "spent at least four years in a so-called madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia." Rodgers stated that Obama "went to a Muslim school, a madrassa they call it ... those things are funded by Saudi Arabia," adding, "It's basically a school for terrorists." Morgan noted that there was "controversy" surrounding the InsightMag.com story, but that "Insight magazine is standing by its story," and also charged that the story came from the presidential campaign of former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC).
- On the June 25 broadcast of his radio show, Savage said that Obama was "indoctrinated" by a "Muslim madrassa in Indonesia."
- In the April 12 edition of her "Notebook" video blog, CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric asked, "Is America ready to elect a president who grew up praying in a mosque?" and proceeded to repeat debunked rumors surrounding Obama's childhood years in Indonesia. Couric claimed that Obama's "background sparked rumors that he had studied at a radical madrassa, or Quranic school -- rumors his campaign denied, declaring that Obama is now a practicing Christian." But Couric did not note in her initial posting that the rumors had been debunked. Couric's "Notebook" was later updated to note that the madrassa "rumors [were] later disproved" and that the source for the claim that Obama "grew up praying in a mosque" later backed off that assertion.
Smearing Obama's church
- During the "Obameter" segment on the February 7 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, Carlson claimed the church "sounds separatist to me" and "contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity," a subject Carlson said he was "actually qualified to discuss." Carlson pointed to the "disavowal of the pursuit of 'middleclassness' " in the church's tenets, calling the church's mission a "racially exclusive theology" and "a theology that ministers to one group of people, based on race." Carlson claimed that Trinity's theology is "racially exclusive" and "wrong," adding that "it's hard to call that Christianity."
- On the February 28 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Hannity stated that "many" call Trinity "separatist," adding that "in some cases, even drawing comparisons to a cult." Guest Erik Rush, a columnist for the conservative website WorldNetDaily, said that the church's "scary doctrine" is "something that you'd see in more like a cult or an Aryan Brethren Church or something like that." Hannity has also repeatedly accused Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright -- Trinity's pastor -- of holding "these black-separatist views, about the Black Value System" without mentioning Wright's explicit denial on the March 1 edition of Hannity & Colmes that his church embraces separatism. And on the December 19 edition of Hannity & Colmes, Hannity said: "You know, Barack Obama's pastor... has this whole list of the Black Value System. It seems like he's supporting a segregated church."
Coulter's comments about Jews
- During the October 8 edition of CNBC's The Big Idea, host Donny Deutsch asked
right-wing pundit Ann Coulter: "If you had your way ... and
your dreams, which are genuine, came true ... what would this country look
like?" Coulter responded, "It would look like New York City during the [2004] Republican
National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like."
She described the convention as follows: "People were happy. They're Christian.
They're tolerant. They defend America." Deutsch then asked, "It
would be better if we were all Christian?" to which Coulter responded, "Yes."
Later in the discussion, Deutsch said to her: "[Y]ou said we should throw
Judaism away and we should all be Christians," and Coulter again replied, "Yes."
When pressed by Deutsch regarding whether she wanted to be like "the head of
Iran" and "wipe
Israel off the Earth," Coulter
stated: "No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. ... That's what
Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal
Express. You have to obey laws."
After a commercial break, Deutsch said that "Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment," and asked her, "So you don't think that was offensive?" Coulter responded: "No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament." Coulter later said: "We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all."
Attacks on Islam or Muslims
- On the March 14 edition of Fox News' Your World With Neil Cavuto, Richard "Bo" Dietl, a private investigator and former New York City Police Department detective, discussed a lawsuit filed by six imams who were removed from a US Airways flight in 2006 and suggested that instead of flying, passengers such as the aforementioned imams should "call their cousin up there, Ali Baba Boo, and go by cab."
- On the June 12 edition of The 700 Club, following a report on Muslims in Minneapolis seeking religious accommodations at school and work, Robertson stated, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have to recognize that Islam is not a religion. It is a worldwide political movement meant on domination of the world. And it is meant to subjugate all people under Islamic law." He characterized the American Muslim community as "Islam light" and went on to say Muslims "want to take over and we want to impose Sharia on you. And before long, ladies are going to be dressed in burqas and whatever garments they would put on them, and next thing you know, men are going to be allowed to have wife-beating and you'll be beheading adulterers and so on and so forth."
- On the October 4 edition of his CNN Headline News show, Beck hosted Sharida McKenzie, a Muslim American who had recently organized the Muslim Peace March, to discuss a report that a Toronto mosque's website "says that Muslims should stay completely away from Halloween, Christmas, New Year's, anniversaries, birthdays, and Earth Day." During the discussion, Beck asked: "But how do we know the difference -- I mean, you're reasonable. How do we know the difference between you and those that are trying to kill us?"
Sexual identity or orientation
- During a March 2 speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), Coulter said she "can't really talk about" Democratic presidential candidate and former Sen. John Edwards (NC) because "you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot' " -- a comment that drew loud applause from the CPAC audience. Then on the March 6 broadcast of Hannity's nationally syndicated radio show, Coulter defended her comment, explaining: "I don't think there's anything offensive about any variation of faggy, faggotry, faggot, fag. It's a schoolyard taunt. It means -- it means wussy." She went on to conclude that "faggot" is a "totally excellent word."
- In 2007, Savage claimed that same-sex marriage "makes me want to puke" and that same-sex parenting is "child abuse"; blamed sexual reassignment surgery for the Columbine massacre; pointed to sexual reassignment surgery and lesbian fertility clinics in claiming that the September 11 terrorist attacks "was God speaking"; referred to Media Matters as "a gay smear sheet," the "homosexual mafia," and the "gay Mafioso"; and declared that a "loving, kind lesbian" is "the type that stuffed ovens in Hitler's concentration camps."
- On the July 11 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly objected to the San Diego Padres' decision to host a gay pride night and a children's hat giveaway promotion during the same July 8 baseball game, claiming that "cluster[ing]" gays near children is "insane" and "inappropriate." After a viewer challenged him by noting that "kids are around gays every day, O'Reilly elaborated on his position on the July 12 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, saying that "thousands" of gays in one place "can be confusing to children."
- In an August 21 post on his CBNnews.com blog, Christian Broadcasting Network senior national correspondent David Brody addressed a federal complaint filed against then-presumptive Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson by blogger Lane Hudson, writing: "Well, now Fred Thompson has an angry girlfriend. His name (don't go there) is Lane Hudson." Since then, Brody had appeared three times on NBC's Meet the Press and four times on MSNBC's Hardball to discuss the 2008 presidential race. Despite referring to a male blogger as Thompson's "angry girlfriend," Brody was invited to appear on the September 9 broadcast of Meet the Press to discuss the election.
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Lovely synopsis - the perfect Holiday email link to send family and friends - liberals and conservatives alike! Thank You!
I just want to say up front and unabashedly that Solon is my very favorite poster. I read this thread before and after his posts and he is just the greatest!
Thank you Julia, that means a lot to me. I really like your posts also. From your clever and funny limericks to your well thought out responses. I really love this site. There are a whole bunch of very smart, very funny liberals here.Merry Christmas.
still...my sentimental favorite is o'reilly, who "couldn't get over the fact" that black people can use fine china and not swear while dining.
What Italian restaurants was he talking about? They ask for F'ing Ice Tea with their hands.....
P.S. I am Italian so don't start.
No one ticks off the cons like you do. This summary of the God Honest Truth will have them seething in their single malts right through New Years. You are a national treasure. Thank you for it all!
What a great award to target Imus and others. Imus a man who calls Dick Cheney a "War Criminal" Big time wacko conservative. No just an old stupid man. But great year MMFA!! Just think they led the charge to get rid of Imus and he is back again. Full circle.
What's your point- racist remarks on the airwaves should not be tracked or fought against? Or is it that racism on the radio is no big deal? I'm curious.
My point is it did not matter, the guy came back and he should not have been the main target, Savage still remains. Instead Imus was targeted because he jokes about Hillary Clinton.
Imus lost his slot because sponsors pulled out
Rush assails Hillary 24/7 his sponsors don't pull...it had nothing to do with Hillary, and evrything to do with nappy headed young ladies
Did you read the MMFA's title for this thread?
Do you mistakenly believe that MMFA has not criticized any of Savage's remarks (search the site, if so)?
Do you believe that only the one worst offender deserves to be have his/her remarks scrutinized and reported?
Do you believe that MMFA has the power to fire people not employed by MMFA?
Yes
No
No
No
Why Spooky?
His response was to Sueld
The point was still made. I dont care beans that Imus came back. That doesnt mean nothing was accomplished. There were still consequences for the actions of being offensive and churlish over our airwaves. THAT was the point and it was made. It wasnt about making sure Imus never works again but showing that if you become too much of a jerk the people may just demand an accounting. That was done and it was a good thing.
Yes, I, too, think O'Reilly deserves top honors for not believing African-Americans could own and patronize a restaurant and no one said, "MFer, get me some ice tea!" Although Limbaugh calling soldiers who disagreed with the administration on Iraq "phony soldiers" and then lying to cover himself was pretty disgusting, too.
You apparently did not see the show (OReilly) or listen to Rush talk about what you are writing about. Both of the comments you are using are taken out of context by you and Media Matters. I am a fan of neither, but I listen to the left and right. You wind up more informed than listening to one side.
Olberman played the entire sequence, in context, no cuts, no edits on O'Reilly's comments about the Harlem restaraunt. What you fail to realize is that a man who claims to have the ear of America is so totally uninformed about Harlem or other wonderful parts of New York that he would show is naivety in front of millions of viewers. He made a fool of himself for showing that he has no concept of the lives of American blacks.
...and just yesterday, "Mallard Fillmore" was complaining all over again about how the entire American media are "dominated by left-wingers," and how "conservatives have no voice in American media." I guess he's never heard of Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, et al...
This is a great "worst of" right wing and biased media for the year, but Media Matters left out one of the ugliest smears of the year, Bill O'Reilly's speculation that juvenile kidnap victim Shawn Hornbeck "enjoyed" his experience.
"The situation here for this kid looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his old parents. He didn't have to go to school. He could run around and do whatever he wanted.<>"
<>This is so foul that no figure in the RW media has tried to defend it, not even Bill O'Reilly himself. Instead, he pretends he never said it, and no one in the mass broadcast media has confronted him about it.I have to agree that was astonishingly heartless and horrible. There were wingnuts HERE that tried to defend it thoughas astonishing as that is
How about the smear of Rush Limbaugh by MMFA and Pinky Reid?
How about the lie about Rudy's travel expenses?
Please, Rush cals Republicans who don't support the war "phony Republicans". He feels the same way about troops. Also, do you feel better that Rudy was billing taxpayers to protect his mistress? War, war and more war, Vote Rudy in '08. Have fun.
No smear of Rush. Rush is a punk. He said what he said and got called on it.
What about the lies and smears of our military men and women?
Unlike Vietnam for example, it seems to me Americans generally have been extra careful to avoid taking their frustration with the political leadership out on the troops. And this extends to the media.
I don’t know what smears you are talking about. But I do know this administration failed to send in the appropriate size force to allow the soldiers to properly carry out the occupation. They put the military in the awkward position of being there on cooked up intelligence (lies), Call them back to the point of exhaustion. They didn’t provide the best armor despite spending extraordinary amounts of money on their military profiteer cronies. Then they don’t want to properly care for the wounded.
You are being made a fool by the propagandists you’re listening to.
Let's start with Haditha, shall we?
We've covered this before...there was indeed a massacre by U.S. soldiers. There was also a cover-up, and the army's attempts to impede the investigation, which has made it hard to prosecute those responsible...despite what the right-wing web sites and radio talkers tell you.
A sad fact of this insane occupation.
Nope..you just proved my point. The left is misinformed
Saying "you just proved my point" 10 times or 10x10 times in this thread does not prove your point at all.
However, Merry Christmas. Keep up the good work. We're all counting on you.
You just proved my point, Mary. I didn't state a point (much like our friend), but that won't keep me from exhortations of grandeur in point proving anyway ;-)
you would have to have a point to be proved. you don't.
Right. We called Rush out on that one.
How's about the multitude of lies the MSM has been caught in about the situation in Iraq/
Stranger, why not take your own name's advice and make yourself one. You are only showing your rear end here with your idiocy and inability to grasp anything related to the truth.
Must suck to be as easily manipulated by the rightwing HO's as you.
P.S. Why aren't you in Iraq? You do know you can volunteer as a civilian as well don't you? But be a man and strap on a rifle and go defend your views where they count.
buzz, is that your contribution to the war effort? Try to get others to join so your lazy 'buzzed' ars doesn't have to face the dangers of terrorism on the homeland? If you call for others to fight for you, maybe you should grow some balls and join with him. Somehow I think you feel safe using momma's CP in the basement far from any dangers...beyond having to take the trash out or doing the dishes. Do you even help your mom out with those simple chores? Nah, I figure you expect to have everything done for you. Maybe that's why you believe the "truths" of the radical left.
Back on the meds! Radical left, gimme a break. Supporting the troops involves a tad more than a dollar yellow ribbon magnet on the back of a gas guzzling SUV.
My goodness you are ignorant. Iraq never comitted any terrorism against us. The CIA said directly they were no threat to do so. Just because YOU are stupid enough to buy ANY excuse for warmongering doesnt mean those of us with functioning cerebral cortexes are so easly fooled and manipulated. Rent a clue for goodness sake and stop being a braindead, brainwashed propaganda parrot.
for instance? what lies from media matters. make a valid point with valid info.
What about the fact that the MSM did not report on the fact that British courts showed that Gore's movie was one lie after another?
no, the court called it "broadly accurate".
Liar.
The British court ruled that the schlockumentary contained at least eleven lies and that it should come with the disclaimer that it is propaganda.
You guys are great. You're demonstrating exactly what I mean.
the lie is what? that the court called it "broadly accurate"? and the court did not say that gore was lying, they said there were things that he could not prove were caused by global warming. such as all the glaciers melting on mount kilamanjaro. but somehow they are, for the first time in recorded history. guess hemingway better come back from the dead, he's going to need to retitle "the snows of kilimanjaro". how about this information that just came out last week. the disappearance of sea ice has forced masses of walruses ashore where they are so crowded they are being killed in large stampedes. see the link.
http://www.livescience.com/animals/071215-ap-walrus-warming.html
"broadly accurate" does not mean it should be viewed in science classrooms. I think that the Brits were being generous, what you consider broad and what they consider broad may be a tad different. In Europe everything is smaller.
feel free to word parse all you want. broadly accurate means just that to me.
Stranger, I wondered the same thing! Nobody reported how much money NBC's parent company will make if everyone goes green. It is again all about money.
want to know why the energy companies don't like solar? because nobody owns the sun. that benefit all goes to the consumer. why that makes you oil company apologists upset, i have no idea. apparently you're such a lemming you enjoy forking over that money. that's why you listen to corporate shills like limbaugh, sitting in his 30 million dollar compound in palm beach, pretend he's mr. working class hero. he's laughing at your stupidity all the way to the bank.
That's exactly right, Mefirst. You're tearing the trolls apart on this thead.
Good work.
No British courts ever sais that Gore was lying about global warming.
Stranger; you are incapable of truth.
Do you think your better than someone else because of what you believe? If you have self esteem you probably do. It is normal. Why is the article above about Ann Coulter thinking she is better, any different than you or me thinking we are better than someone else? Is the put down because she is right wing. That makes the left think they are better than the right. That must be the point here.
The put down was probably because she is an evil putrid hatespewing HAG. No I DONT think I am better than ANYBODY, not because of what I believe or for any other reason. I dont even understand thinking that way. I think I am good. Better just doesnt enter the picture. That sort of judgement is unseemly.
This Bush Republican Party, and its braying hyenas of the airwaves, have nothing to offer America except fear, smears, lies and bigotry. That should be the message of 2008. Since the GOP is so dead wrong on virtually all the major issues, what else can it compete with except for a steady torrent of irrelevant nonsense that takes voters minds away from the issues. "Evade, confuse, divide and conquer" -- that's the real motto of today's Republican party. Bravo to Media Matters for continuing to expose the right-wing's daily modus operandi so clearly and accurately.
Actually I am nauseous after reading all of those posts. Amazing that all of that tripe was posted mostly under the guise of Christianity. That is what so infuriates me. I have been a Salvation Army Officer that has seen even the poorest and most debauched lifted and redeemed by what the true Gospel really is and that is the uplifting and healing of troubled people. To think that this bunch has tried to co-opt the Christian message is so disgusting. Frankly, what they say has no relationship to the Gospel. It is a complete distortion. Not only that, it simply shows how far these folks have strayed from what their own words say they are, and that is that they represent Christ. Frankly like General Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army said, we need to go for souls and share the upbuilding nature of the Church's mission. God help all of us who stray from that message. Thank you for sharing this information although it is so upsetting.
Take heart mari2j, the angry grip of the old right wingers in the church is subsiding. Young ministers are more concerned with human rights and the environment than hating gays and loving war.
"Young ministers are more concerned with human rights and the environment than hating gays and loving war."-Roundhouse
Meaning, young ministers more interested in liberalism that the religion that they minister. These "young ministers" will further water down Christianity, They would convert to Islam if It would mean the mooslims felt more comfy.
Please tell me you arent really ignorant enough to believe such blatant stupidity. Do you REALLY conflate Christianity with the GOP????? Please rent a clue and escape your hivemind conditioning. A brain, even one as substandard as YOURS, is a terrible thing to waste.
You tryin' to tell us that Jesus was not a human rights activist who was also concerned about preserving the beauty of his father's creation?
So, Jesus was a man of the establishment eh? Please explain yourself, Fin.
Mariaj;
My mom was a Salvation Army Lieutenent who actually knew and trained under its founder. She later became a Catholic but never gave up her love and respect for the corps.
Funny how you left all of the racially, culturally and just plain studid and insensitive comments that we hear on Air America everyday. Heck, three hours of the Randi Rhodes show would give you more information than your entire article covered.
Why not try holding the left to the same inane standards that you've set for the right. Or would that hurt too much.
Post the lies.
First of all I dont believe it. The left wouldnt support an audience for that like the right seems to. Second, cough up the evidence. Or are you just repeating what you were TOLD to believe as a member in good standing of the Limborg hivemind?
Solon:
Randi can go over the top. I've quit listening to her though I follow other Air America/progressive talk shows. Randi got some TV time and, as so often happens, looked for more by becoming unprofesssional. That is a shame.
Well, at least she still implores her audience to fact check her and not to swallow her words on faith alone. I can dig that. That's also why I detest Rush. His schtick is all about, "trust me. I'm never wrong." What a maroon.
I'll take your word for it. I have heard similar things from others. The claim was however the claim was racially charged, insensative, and plain stupid comments. Have you heard racist comments from Randi along the lines of what Imus said? Or the take that bone out of your nose Oxymoron comment? We wont even GO to the bone ignorant hatefilled bile spewed by Gangleskank Coulter. If so then I was wrong. Personally the preaching to the choir format never really appealed to me. I dont listen to Air America, I just dont see a left wing audience for racist bloviating.
Randi does not use racially insensitive material. Anyone who says so is just parrotting some radiocon. She is a bit highstring emotionally as many entertainers are. And she doesn't have a chance to speak when she's appeared on the TV, so she tries to talk over people, but we are talking about those stupid screechfests on cable. She's been on CSPAN and done very well in a more respectful forum. Overall, she is really good and has a big audience. She is not as circumspect as say Thom Hartmann. But she has her own style and will talk to anyonewho calls in. And she has no patience with fools.
I have enjoyed listening to Randi at times. She gets her facts straight and really can handle herself against crazy callers. I'd say she sometimes is guilty of hyperbole but I do appreciate her passion and all the links to back up what she says.
I don't usually want a full three hour dose, esp. when she's just repeating some point over & over. All the radio talkers get repetitive.
classifying the comedy of imus as misinformation is quite a stretch, although i suppose the lowest common denominator might actually think he believes his remarks, after hearing them in the context media matters and other overly sensitive entities framed them in... and every other example listed here as so called misinformation makes it apparent to me that media matters is incapable of intellectual honesty... pot, meet kettle...
Yeah calling a group of women nappy headed hos is SO funny. IF you are a disgusting degenerate. I dont really think I will take advise from YOU about intellectual honesty.
Ann Coulter has at last become little more than an after thought. In fact, about the only time I think of her anymore is during that brief moment of relief we all share after inspecting the toilet paper for signs of blood after cleansing ourselfs of our morning constitution.
Now if only we could find her crouching in a spider hole staring madly at the sky while clutching the final musings of Joseph McCarthy tightly to her breast...
Joseph McCarthy is an American hero who was smeared by the lying left and the corrupt, lying MSM.
The Venona Report, which the lying left and the lying, corrupt MSM decided to ignore, show him to be 100% correct.
Sorry, but history has already judged your hero the tailgunner.
He was a drunk who ruined lives. End of story.
Whose lives did he ruin? See that's the big lie. it's repeated over and over again...but no one can seem to find any.
He actually was a tailgunner...saying he wasn't is another lie by the left.
Yeah..unfortunately he started drinking heavily because of the unrelenting lies about him...and there was no centrist or right-leaning media to call the lying leftist MSM out about their lies..
Please, you're breaking my heart.
I wish I knew how to play the violin.
Poor guy, hounded into alcoholism.
He tried to divide the nation with his relentless pursuit of his own headlines. He was a hack, a drunk, and he sought to bring charges against anyone who was not of the same political persuasion as he was.
Despite what you may have read in the syphilitic rants of Ann Coulter, there were not communists under all of our beds in the fifties. We faced an external enemy in communism but that enemy according to Senator McCarthy was internal, not external.
Instead of defending against real threats, your hero threatened and persecuted good, patriotic American military personnel at Ft. Monmouth, NJ and elsewhere.
"His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men."
- Edward R. Murrow
Thank you for quoting Murrow. It proves my point about the lying MSM.
It atually was an internal threat. The Venona papers proved that.
It wasn't as you described that McCarthy tried to destroy anyone who was not of his political persuasion. All he was doing was trying to ferret out commie spies, who were working for the Soviet Union, in the US government who were trying to overthrow it.
Among them were Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, Allan May, Klaus Fuchs, Donald McClean, Theodore Hall, Jane Zlatowski, Maurice Halperin, Elizabeth Bentley, Judith Coplon, Victor Perlo, Harold Ware, Lee Pressman, Nathan Witt, John Abt, Charles Kramer, Henry Collins, George Silverman, Marion Bachrach, John Hermann, Nathan Weyl, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Harold Gold, Morton Sobell, Joel Barr, Alfred Sarrant
Alger Hiss?
McCarthy had nothing to do with the Hiss case. Hiss was called before the HUAC.
McCarthy was a senator.
Worrierking;
Sorry,
McCarthy was a player in the early stages of the Hiss case. But you're right that it was Nixon who got all the kudos for the HUAC work.
A great read is "Witness" by Chalmers(?), the guy whose testimony outed Hiss.
It's actually Chambers, not Chalmers
Two more great books on the subject are Sam Tanenhaus's Perjury and Alan Weinstein's biography of Whittaker Chambers.
There is an amazing amount of documentation out there about Soviet spies in the US government, yet the American public knows almost nothing about it.
Why? Because the lying and corrupt MSM is doing a good job of cvering it up.
It really is disturbing.
You're disturbing you freakin' conspiracy theorist. It's no wonder you love tailgunner Joe, you're of the same cloth.
wow...worrierking is amazingly ignorant, isn't he?
how come you're so gutless you can't post under one name?
Umm..I'm posting under only one name...the one you see here..
..so...does that mean I have guts then?
so you've never ever posted under another one?
nope
i doubt that, but let's see if you're here in a month. deal?
I'll admit that I'm not the brightest guy in the world, but if someone has a convincing argument, I'm willing to change my mind. I'll listen. but I need more than Ann Coulter's word.
I didn't buy the commie plots hiding under the bed crap when I was a kid in the fifties. I studied all of the different arguments and history of the HUAC and the Army McCarthy hearings etc.
I don't believe all of the conspiracy theories Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids, UFOs, or any of the other garbage from the lunatic fringe on both sides.
History has sorted this out. You bought into the McCarthy diversion, just like many today have bought into the Iraq diversion.
No he isnt. He is intelligent, thoughtful and insightful. You will never be at that level. The most a moron like you can POSSIBLY hope for is to appreciate him one day. Sadly higher brain function will always be beyond your capability. IF you are lucky and break away from your hivemind programming perhaps one day you can recognize it.
Thanks Solon. I always appreciate your support. Have a nice Christmas.
No it didnt. You are incredibly stupid. McCarthy was a drunken, scheming weasel. History was KIND to him.
"Negroes" ? Whos says Negroes anymore? Are we in 1957?
As for how the media treats Al Gore, remember all the garbage that he supposedly claimed to have invented the internet and that Love Canal was based on him? The media really trashed Gore in 2000 and gave a pass to Bush, probably to prove they're not alledgedly "liberally" biased.
Negro is a term used to describe the race of humans stemming from sub-Saharan Africa, typified by their dark pigmentation and nappy hair. It should be a technical term but since the liberalization of science, it had presumably been titled a racially charged word, thus unfit for use. Permit me this bit of Nostalgia.
Thank you Archie Bunker. By the way, the laundry called; your sheets and hood are ready.
Last week you, or one of your clones, were complaining about the use of the word "cracker".
If the term is so insulting to you, why do you insist on coming here and acting like a f__king cracker?
What does acting like an "f_ing cracker" entail? I assume it was the enlightened opposing viewpoint i put forth, one which you are uncomfortable with.
It entails wallowing in Cracker "Nostalgia".
But "cracker" is such an ugly word unbefitting of such a beautiful race.
The word "cracker" comes from the person who held the whip, punishing slaves who weren't working quite as quickly as their white owners thought they should be.
It comes from "whip cracker."
And yes, they were virtually always white.
And the term is quite often allegorical in nature. The "whip" can be "cracked" in many ways.
As is "nappy headed ho" too insulting a phrase to use to desscribe the beauty and nurturance embodided by black women.
How about, regarding the Bush administration's firings of 8 U.S. attorneys, virtually every mainstream media outlet in the country repeated the mantra, "Well, Clinton fired 93 U.S. attorneys."?
And this soaked into the public conscientiousness; just ask anyone and that's what they'll tell you.
Few will know the facts: that presidents usually fire all U.S. attorneys when they assume office and appoint new ones. Bush fired almost all and then replaced the remaining ones a few months later. All the attorneys that he fired were his own appointees. After all this time it's amazing to me that so many people I talk to still believe the White House propaganda on this.
Thank you. I forgot to mention this one.
Liar....Bush DID NOT fire the majority of the US attornies at the beginning of his term.
They handed in their resignations.
On the other hand, Clinton had Reno fire all the attornies...then she went on to murder scores of men, women, and children at Waco.
How many did Clinton fire in the middle of their terms?
None. Thanks for bringing that up.
Clinton and that murderer Reno decided to keep the under-performers.
The Bush admin decided that the work of eight was not up to standard....so they got rid of them like they should have.
Incompetency? If it was incompetency, why didn't they go with that for a reason? Why did Gonzo resign? Do you believe what Coburn said? Why did his explanations keep changing? What about the attorneys fired? Do you think they were just closet liberals? Do you think they were lying? If so, why didn't your senators bring them up on contempt charges? I see you are calling Plame a liar too. Why not bring those charges up? Did Hayden lie when he said he considered Plame covert in the statement read on the floor of the Senate? Same with Gore, if you think he was lying under oath, why not bring him up on charges?
If you think this administration is so honest, why did they destroy so many emails? Why can't we get Rove's emails? Why didn't the Oil CEOs have to go under oath? Why can't we get notes on Cheney's energy task force? Why would Bush not testify publicly about 9/11? Why would he not testify without Cheney? Why do we have to outsource our army to Blackwater?
I bet you were against a Department of Homeland Security until Bush told you to be for it. I bet you were against the 9/11 commission before Bush changed his mind. I bet in 2000 you were ok with states dealing with same-sex marriage before Bush wanted the Amendment. I bet you agreed when Bush said he "didn't think you could win" a war on terror, but then also agreed with him when he said "we are winning and we will win."
I bet you blamed Clinton when oil went up and wanted him to pressure OPEC, but place no blame on Bush now.
Has Bush made any mistakes in your mind?
Stranger, what do you do to stand up for your beliefs other than this website? How do you support the troops? How do you support your Republican bretheren?
Before you answer about the U.S. Attorneys, were Domenici and Wilson calling Iglesias about his incompetency?
LIAR they got good performance reviews. They were good lawyers who wouldnt go after political cases that Bush WANTED them to follow without any legal rationale.
Waco?
The first ones to open fire were the Branch Dividians.
The first people to be executed were the ATF agents.
You can argue about the incident from now until doomsday, but the fact is that law enforcement agents were murdered by the people inside.
think so, do you? this clearly shows that they were murdered by the clintons.
http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/waco/waco3.html
Those damned Clintons!
Christ, will they be after me next!
I'd better get into the witless protection program, quick.
one of the amazing things from the conservative god squad is their hatred of the clintons, and really any liberal, and their willingness to make a hero of any scumbag who had anything to do with the clintons or the democrats. david koresh was banging thirteen year olds in the name of jesus at waco. it's why karl rove and libby can engage in a plot to out an undercover agent for political reasons, and they're heroes. and why huckabee was so eager to free a rapist.
You are a liar AND a fool They ALSO handed in their resignation as all the attorneys do at the change of EACH administration it is pro forma. What an ignorant piece of human debris you are.
Bless you, Dawn, for your accurate post about Clinton's 93 att. gens. Those who know how transistions work will accept it. Those who spin will spin. But, thanks again for your truth.
I wonder if any of the betting boards has opened this proposition:"Will the November Elections be Held?"
The 'Gents' mentioned above; is she or isn't she...haven't the charm or smarts of the propagandists of 70 years ago.
Bette Davis said it best, buckle up...
I find it increasingly predictable where and when the Wingnut trolls will post their lame attempts at discrediting liberals, Democrats, or anyone leaning just left of their extreme right. Most of the current crop of trolls can't even be bothered with sounding erudite or even defensible. Wonder who's wasting their time and money on these morans?
You're so right. I think someone told them that, as we near the holidays, there may not be anyone at MMFA on duty to remove their offensive posts quickly, so they all crawled out from their respective rocks to leave their "calling cards."
I hate false political information more than racially/sexually insensitive comments.
If every quote here stood but the general public had the basic information to be able to vote in their own best interest, this country would be a lot better off.
I certainly am not a fan of Don Imus, but I remember a song by Stevie Wonder in which there was a line about a nappie-headed boy. Didn't seem to be any fuss at that time. But I suppose a black using that language is different than when a white uses it.
i think it was putting it together with the ho remark. and i was not in favor of him getting fired. but since it was his sponsors who withdrew their advertising, he brought it on himself. no one else to blame.
Did he call the boy a prostitute?
I certainly am not a fan of Don Imus, but I remember a song by Stevie Wonder in which there was a line about a nappie-headed boy. Didn't seem to be any fuss at that time. But I suppose a black using that language is different than when a white uses it.
You don't have be a fan of Imus, YOU JUST NEED COMMON SENSE! You don’t call a group of college educated woman who just played for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ‘nappy headed hoes’ PERIOD! It’s not freaking rocket science and it does not COMPARE to a freaking song! It's human decency!
Oh, whatever. Imus abused the privilege of his position when he used his disproprtionate public voice to slander private citizens. He violated the public trust.
Phew!
What a serio-comic collection of blunt and frank commentaries.
Not everything said would be misinformation, because people just want to call a spade a spade and to me, they were more honest than the majority of the hypocrites out there who wouldnt have the balls to say what they realy wanted to say.
I enjoyed reading it all!
Cheers and God bless.
What about Randi Rhodes passing out drunk in the street on a Sunday afternoon and she claimed she was mugged...and then Err America added to the lie saying she was mugged by conservativess.
Yeah, really. What about that? How does a story like the one you tell get started? I realize there's no way you're capable of being among the right-wing intelligentsia who generate stories like that one, but it might be interesting to track it back to its seed, if for no other reason than a fascinating psychological profile of ignorant partisans and their sycophants.
And, on a personal note, I'd just like to say "thank you" for singlehandedly using your flood of intellectually-vacuous comments to turn this forum into a shallow "uh huh - nuh uh" stream of inanity and repetition normally expected of conservative boards. The rarest of x-mas gifts that could only come from the heart of a true conservative sycophant - a vacation from reason.
Umm..do you mean how Randi Rhodes fell down drunk?
It came from people who were there. The lying corrupt MSM just chose to ignore it.
Prove it with independently verifiable evidence. Your words are impossible to believe. Your ignorance shows that every word you post is a lie, and that includes the words "a", "an", and"the".
A post from the blog Gawker:
(Remember the story was that she was out walking her dog and was mugged. They had to change that when this guy came forward)
Randi Rhodes was no more assaulted by a right-wing fanatic on Monday than Dick Cheney was. She, in fact, fell down and injured her teeth outside of a Midtown Irish bar at around 6 o'clock Sunday evening after downing about fourteen Ketel One Bloody Marys. She was abusive to the barstaff and generally gross, crass, loud, and pretentious. I genuinely hope she has a speedy recovery. I never would've disclosed this (I believe that anyone should feel free to hang out at Irish pubs at any time and not be concerned about someone publishing their behavior) if Air America hadn't grossly interpreted a drunken indiscretion and allowed it to be morphed into some bullish rhetoric on air. Whatever journalistic integrity the station may have ever had is now completely compromised. The manipulation of the public diminishes any cause, whether just or fabricated.
Stranger:
So you use "Gawker" as a legitimate news site for the Randi Rhodes story. What did the police say? What did mainline news show say? Who investigated it?
Police say she was not mugged.
Remember...the lie they put out was that she was out walking her dog and was beaten up.
Well, now...they had to change that when this witness came forward.
The drunken lout was forced to admit that she indeed was not out walking her dog, but rather was in a bar getting stupid drunk on a Sunday. She went outside and passed out and fell face first onto the sidewalk
Good luck peddling that "eye witness" around here. We've noticed your love for Randi before, and I think if you send her a nice note, you can get her autograph. Have a Merry Christmas.
I guess you must think nobody listens to Randi Rhodes. She is whip smart, well informed and asks people to do their own research and not just rely on a radio personality. And even though she describes herself as an entertainer (she is very good), she is also very well informed and intelligent. Not to mention very funny. She does not lie and will apologize if found to be inaccurate. She does make some well deserved caustic remarks sometimes if you consider that awful, too bad. She's most always right on the money.
And on a related topic, Air America personality Rachel Maddow (she rules, btw) has been taping pilots for a new MSNBC show. Let the squeels of the radical conservative minority begin to bemoan their loosening death grip on political talk shows.
That's good news. I like Rachel too. Very articulate.
Unfortunately, MSNBC devided not to give Maddow a show at this time.
That should be "decided."
Most of this stuff is just plain funny. I think the Boortz comments about taco-shaped parachutes was pretty bad, but otherwise - no problems whatsoever. Unlike most people at MM, I actually understand satire.
Boxing,
Why is satire on our news? Why is satire called political commentary?
Wow. The anti-free speech Thought Police is at it again. I have a question for everybody. Do you think that Media Matters will try to censor Rush first after the new year or will they go after O'Reilly instead?
RH,
How many times do we have to go over this? This is not a censorship movement. When I asked you once if you sponsored a show and someone pointed out that on that show there was anti-Christian rhetoric, you said you would pull your ads. You told me that was not censorship, but when people from this site show advertisers what they are sponsoring, you call that the "thought police." NO ONE is trying to censor anyone. Why would you pulling your ads be different? What if the ideals of the company don't jive with the talk-show host they are sponsoring?
You have said that ratings trump all in this area and if advertisers feel that way, they are more than welcome to sponsor it, I won't frequent any of the sponsors on some of these shows and I am not being the "thought police" when I point out to my friends what products are sponsoring what content.
I have a very hard time with your rhetoric especially when the government of the UNITED STATES was silencing citizens in an audience with the PRESIDENT and you did NOTHING and you hardly protested even here. When the government did it, you didn't flinch and shrugged your shoulders. When a website without cops who are able to arrest people, you spend hours. When the government did it, you couldn't care less. WHY?
You have admitted yourself that its fine to show advertisers what they are sponsoring. Why do you start this every time?
Ask David Brock why he's such a big advocate of the Fairness Doctrine. You know as well as I do that it's much more than just a boycotting of advertisers. The ultimate goal is to get the U.S. government involved.
RH,
The government actively censors people by arresting them and you don't get involved. A website posts verbatim quotes from hosts encouraging its posters to become involved by contact advertisers and you go crazy. Why?
If we are going to have dialogue, please answer why you throw your passion here instead of taking real action
RH,
The government actively censors people by arresting them and you don't get involved. A website posts verbatim quotes from hosts encouraging its posters to become involved by contact advertisers and you go crazy. Why?
If we are going to have dialogue, please answer why you throw your passion here instead of taking real action.
If you think the goal is for the government to be involved, tell me why under the "take action" tab there are no links to contact anyone from the government or even a suggestion to contact your representatives in Congress.
There is no free speech issue with the Fairness doctrine you just keep lying about that. HELOOOO. Red Lion. Stop LYING.
Whatever, Hunter.
Conservatives are marginalizing themselves with their own radical speech. Take responsibility for the demise of your Party. You and your partners in crime, the rank and file Repubs, have condoned and encouraged every violent message and underhanded tactic as a justified means to an end.
uncle rino, could you tell us the story again about how noah got all the animals on the ark, and the world was covered with water to the top of mount everest, and the ark floated around for months. i love that story.
Freid:
Hear, hear. After Disney/ABC aired, with minor changes, the totally dishonest fiction on Clinton, Berger, Albright, I began my boycott of all things Disney and ABC. They don't care but I do.
RINO, most of us who post here on a regular basis don't want to silence anyone. You know that.
We'd prefer that they keep speaking. It's important that the nation hears all opinions. From the left, right, center and the lunatic fringe of the left and right.
We're not for censorship. we're for standing up for what we believe just as you stand up for your beliefs.
There is no free speech issue here. I have proven it. At this point you only say this because you are a liar that prefers the lie to reality.
Great job, guys. Maybe it's just because its so fresh in my mind, but I'd add Joe Klein's FISA fiasco to the list. My personal favorite is Billy O's amazing discovery of the black middle class. Those people really do live on a different planet. I also-- for what it's worth-- think it's somehow significant that a good half your list focuses on the standup comics of the right: Billy O', Ann, Pat Robertson, etc. (Is anybody besides me finding themselves embarrassed by poor old Pat Robertson's increasing senility and irrelevance?)
Incidentally, I've been harboring the solution to the media mess for six years, and I have finally revealed it here in today's blog. Here's a teaser:
Today, I am writing to announce that I have THE solution to the self-inflicted crisis our traditional media has landed itself in.* Actually, I've had it since the autumn of 2001, but nobody implemented it then, when it might have prevented an awful lot of the mess our country is in, and its time quickly passed. Now, the herd is waking up, and once again we're at a point where just one major publisher with sufficient moxie (and resources) could start the ball rolling on a wonderful project the could contribute enormously to shortening and easing the pain of our nation's recovery.
This collection of "The Worst" just shows how absolutely necessary a group like MMFA is. It's been a great relief to find this group and comforting to know that there is a place to turn to in which to find people who can rationally assess current events. Thank you MMFA!
I am definitely no fan of Fox News or John Gibson specifically, but, in the case of the white/black devils and "snitchin'" he is correct.
Having been born and raised as a white minority in New Orleans I have been part of conversations with my black friends who would talk about the "blue-eyed devil" and they're role in the proliferation of crack cocaine in the black community and within a breath see them switch gears to calling black females "bitches" and "hoes". Don't dare suggest that the black man's treatment of black females has any detrimental effects on black society or the black men standing on the street corner selling the crack have any responsibility for further destroying black neighborhoods.
Mentioning the staggering degree of black teenage pregnancy and single-motherhood and the impact that has on the mother and child only elicits anger towards the individual who dared to touch the subject. Fathering multiple children with multiple women is as cool as gold teeth.
A black female student of mine proudly boasted how she reprimanded her son for "tattling" because she teaches her son not to snitch. "There ain't no snitches in our family."
It may not be politically correct to say it, but, is absolutely true that a significant portion of the black community blames whitey for everything bad that befalls blacks while at the same time self perpetuating the very circumstances for which white people are blamed.
Google the lyrics for "My Baby Daddy".
"Who that is. That's just my baby daddy."
It may not be politically correct to say it, but, is absolutely true that a significant portion of the black community blames whitey for everything bad that befalls blacks while at the same time self perpetuating the very circumstances for which white people are blamed.
YOU as ONE white person raised in ONE minority community decides that give YOU the right to make general statements about an ENTIRE race? So based on YOUR vast experience, what you've found should be taken as the absolute truth about and ENTIRE race of people?. GTFOH
For every black person you've described I will match you with a college educated, hardworking individual. You don't label an ENTIRE race based on your 'so-called' one with persons experience.
Affluent, educated well bred blacks are not representative of the African American majority. By the way we are not "generalizing" about Africans or the Negro race, we are talking about African Americans. Africans squabble and quarrel amongst each other ceaselessly in their third world cesspool. You may not like this but you cannot deny that the African American is represented by the worst scum of the race. In popular culture, in the media, Blacks are unfortunately seen this way. It is a shame, but either the middle class black community is underrepresented or there are just not that much middle class educated blacks.
You're close to winning the most ignorant poster of the year award.
I was going to say that you make me ashamed to be white, but in fact, after reading your last bit of offal, I'm ashamed to be human.
NEVER be ashamed of bieng white. Do not ever betray your race, roots, and ancestors.
Fin--
What size scissors do you use to cut the eyeholes in your sheets?
Does your job title contain the words "Grand Wizard?"
You racist, white supremist moron. Please stop embarassing Homo Sapiens everywhere.
My wife and I saw someone with a swastika tattooed on their arm last night. We are not fans of racist @ssh@les.
Personally, I think white supremacists should be isolated in a commune somewhere. No cruel punishment, but no protection from it either. I have a theory that they would start discriminating against themselves based on eye color, hair color, height, accent, tattoos (or lack thereof). Like a huge, violent version of Dr. Suess's "the Sneeches". They can fight amongst themselves, denounce each other for being traitors to the "blue-eyed" cause or whatever. Never be ashamed of your detached earlobes, never betray your heritage!
That would clean up so much of society, and message boards as well. I wonder if that's too much to ask for Christmas?
Probably so but someone would be able to film a reality version of Lord of the Flies if they did. That would be cool.
Fin Face...
You're straight out of a KKK comic book. Only problem is, it's not a very funny book. I've been reserving this reply for months now but I can't hold back any longer.
I have interviewed many political leaders including Presidents of our country to Grand Dragons of the KKK now locked away in prison.
You're a perfect fit for membership! Add to that your excellent communication skills and you could follow in the hateful foot steps of the Grand Dragons I have personally known.
You are a racist,,, Right?
I say YES. You're a disgusting white racist.
King, don't you wonder where Far-Fig gets all that knowledge about black folks? I mean he talks about an entire race of people like he has expert knowledge on them. You don’t think that Far-Fig is simply a racist, bigoted, sheet wearing white man making asinine comments on a subject he knows nothing about do you? I would hate to assume that but for him to claim all this knowledge of black folks he would have to spend a lot of time with them, right? Even the dumbest, ignorant person knows you can't make judgments unless you have facts and in order to have facts about a subject you must study so I'm assuming that he's studying black folks, I just wonder why? Why spend so much of your time with people you think are inferior? And if he's spending all this time with people whom he considers inferior one must ask why? Is there a reason? Maybe he's got color envy? Hey, maybe it's just plain envy? Seriously don't you wonder why? I do.
Hey, seems like Uncle Cracker needs a place to vent his bile, so he's here again. This crackpot needs a radio show so that he can rant and rave at everybody who doesn't look like him, so here he is again. Maybe Uncle Cracker should start his own radio show (maybe already has?), or maybe a blog of his own. I see there is still availability at www.unclecrackerisawhitesupremacist.com. Of course the link doesn't work now, but I'm sure he'll have it up and running any day so that he can dispense his special brand of cracker doodle and we can learn from his superior wisdom (sic).
In pop culture? Oh for god sakes what a stupid example. Pop culture is representative of nothing whatsoever for any class, culture or race. Try again uncle Cracker.
I did not SAY it was representative of any class or race. I just described black representation in popular culture.
And I said popculture typifies nothing. You used a stupit an desparate example, deal widdit.
"For every black person you've described I will match you with a college educated, hardworking individual. You don't label an ENTIRE race based on your 'so-called' one with persons experience."
That's a good one. Quite funny. Reality does not bear your claims.
It took about 2 minutes to find a US Census Press Release from June 24, 2004 which states:
"Among races, Asians had the highest proportion of college graduates at 50 percent. About 30 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 17 percent of blacks had a least a bachelor’s degree. In 1993, 24 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 12 percent of blacks were college graduates."
Meanwhile, the national average poverty rate in 2006 was 12.3% for all races while blacks enjoyed a rate nearly double at 24.3%, according to the US Census Bureau.
According to the racist devils at a teen pregnancy organization, the teen pregnancy race in 2000 for girls 15-19 was 55 per 1,000 for Non-Hispanic Whites and 153 per 1,000 for Blacks.
Generally, Blacks are to US races what Louisiana is to US states. Both come in first at everything one would want to be last in while coming in last in nearly everything one would want to be first in.
Oh yeah. I wasn't labeling an ENTIRE race anything. I said, "[a] significant portion of the black community." There's good and bad everywhere, even here.
Ha-ha!
If you're really part of a "deth cult," why are you still alive?
Southern Death Cult was the original name of the band The Cult whose album LOVE is considered one of their best, if not the best.
southerndethcult is a great way to offend the Xtian right without even trying.
The Cult was nothing but a Doors wannabee group that hardly knew which side of their instruments to play (they would have sounded better had they strummed the side without the strings), and their caterwauling singer was one of the worst in history.
I don't think you are bothering Christians or anyone else in the least by using an obscure thrown-away name of an even more obscure band as your handle. They aren't even has-beens, they're never-weres.
You sure seem to know a lot about a band of never-has-beens.
So, once again you make disparaging remarks about someone who knows something.
Not unexpected, given your pride in your own vast ignorance.
no one wants to see teenage pregnancies. but if you are going by those statistics, then obviously asians are superior to non-hispanic whites, because their rate of college is much higher. i don't think so, but you must.
You say that from being born and raised you know for a fact that a “significant portion” of the black community behaves in a certain way. When challenged, you then site US census statistics as your back up. Did you know that only 67% of the population responded to the Census questionnaire in the year 2000? http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/response/2000response.html
While that percentage of respondents exceeds the former year, it in no way backs up you premise regarding black folks. Back to square one.
the "blue-eyed devil"
Malcolm X called the white man a "blue eyed devil" back in the 60's and since he's been dead since 1965. I find it hard to imagine the younger generation speaking about Malcolm X and the 'blue eyed devil" in the year 2007, that's been 42 years.
I can tell you for a FACT that I have 3 college educated children with degrees and I'm one of 11 children. All of my brothers and sisters children have college degrees and my children's children have college degrees. I could continue to site statistics on my family alone but you get the picture, if I'm one family and I know many, do the math. I don't need US Census for that it's simply a fact.
According to the racist devils at a teen pregnancy organization, the teen pregnancy race in 2000 for girls 15-19 was 55 per 1,000 for Non-Hispanic Whites and 153 per 1,000 for Blacks. Generally, Blacks are to US races what Louisiana is to US states. Both come in first at everything one would want to be last in while coming in last in nearly everything one would want to be first in
Well since I was one who had two children out of wedlock I can't fault those who have had unplanned pregnancies but I did get married and put all 3 of my children through college and I did not give birth and then kill my child as these women did (they were all white):
A former women’s volleyball player at Mercyhurst College was charged on Tuesday with homicide for allegedly suffocating her baby minutes after giving birth last month.
Addie Kubisiak, 18, of Parker, Colo. was arrested on suspicion of murder when police discovered a baby’s body hidden in her dorm room at Western State College in Gunnison, Colo. Police believe Kubisiak was driving home from Gunnison to Parker when she stopped to give birth in the back seat.
A former college student has been indicted on murder charges in the death of her daughter, who police say drowned in a dormitory toilet. Kathryn "Katie" McCoy was also indicted Thursday on charges of tampering with physical evidence for allegedly giving birth to a baby girl on Oct. 23 and then concealing the body.
My point is “sh*t happens” to all of us and there is no race who is more prone to something, life simply happens to all of us, period. How EACH of us chooses to handle our problems does not mean an entire race or group of people choose to handle something. I’m sure you wouldn’t want me saying that statistics show white women choose to kill their children any more than I would want you to say black woman have children out of wedlock. We can both site statistics to back up the numbers however they do not represent the race as a hole.
You along with Far-Fig Newton seem to feel that you have some insight in the black community. While there are many issues facing the black community, you don't a freaking clue what they are. When you drop down from your bigoted tower and realize that the year is 2007 and black folks have taken advantage of all that was available and some like in all races have chosen not to participate, period. It simply makes some black like some whites, unwilling, PERIOD!!!!!
It's so hard to believe the "bravery" of these bigots who spew this stuff anonymously online, Pearl. They belong in another century.
thanks for your posts, and Merry Christmas.
Malcolm X called the white man a "blue eyed devil" back in the 60's and since he's been dead since 1965. I find it hard to imagine the younger generation speaking about Malcolm X and the 'blue eyed devil" in the year 2007, that's been 42 years.
Uh-huh. And I was called blue eyed devil in 1992 by a Nation of Islam disciple co-worker of mine. Remember the movie "X"?
I guess in your vast experience, never having been called a blue eyed devil means that the term is no longer used.
How funny that several people here have attacked my experience when everything I have said have been real events, whereas you "find it hard to imagine the younger generation speaking about Malcolm X and the 'blue eyed devil".
As always I bore quickly with the race issue. I'd much rather be criticizing Bush.
How funny that several people here have attacked my experience when everything I have said have been real events, whereas you "find it hard to imagine the younger generation speaking about Malcolm X and the 'blue eyed devil".
Actually, what's hard to imagine is your extrapolation of an entire generation of people from the anecdotal, unverifiable, "actions" of a few. That's called bigotry, and you are a shining example of an ignorant bigot.
New Orleanian by brith
Californian by choice
"Brith" is circumcision by a Rabbi with a lisp.
You still demonstrate no education whatsoever. Anyone who extrapolates the actions of an entire category of people from the actions of a few is too stupid to comment about them.
Everyone, please, sing along!!!
It's beginning to look alot like WINGNUTS
everywhere I post;
Take a look in the five and ten The Stranger is back again
With candy canes and debunked claims aglow
It's beginning to look a lot like Wingnuts
Finfarin in ev'ry post
But the prettiest sight to see is the RHINO that will be
On your own front door
THANK YOU MMFA! You've been a beautiful audience
I think that for the holiday season MMFA or the posters should organize a poster misinformation contest. Looking at this year's posts, and finding the ones that apply to the particular MMFA brand of "misinformation. T'would actually be interesting.
You're just suggesting a contest that you would win hands down.
Here's another nomination for Misinformation of the Year.
The lying left and the lying and corrupt MSM continue to lie about thye economy. We are in what is probably the best economy in US history despite the mortgage crisis..(Which, by the way, the little princess John Edwards, is making money off foreclosures of mortgages of poor people)..
50 straight months of job growth...coming off the Clinton recession.
Record stock market levels..
Near record levels of employment..
Astonishing growth rates..GDP growth for 3rd quarter was 4.9%
Steady increase in real wages.
..etc., etc., etc,
Your ignorance is to painful to address. Especially since this has been batted down several times before. You dont care. You just keep repeating the propaganda in the vain hope some day it will become true. You are ignorant. You are a liar. You are a fool. You are a troll. Go away.
Here's another nomination for Misinformation of the Year.
50 straight months of job growth...coming off the Clinton recession.
Unemployment increased from August to September this year. Not to mention all the other fluctuations.
There has not been a net improvement in unemployment under Bush. The rate was 4.2% when Bush took office and it has only gotten as low as 4.4% this year.
Please don't invoke 9/11 as the cause of the Bush employment hemorrhage.
http://caseagainstbush.blogspot.com/2005/09/9-11-did-not-cause-shrub-job-loss.html
Compare Clinton and Bush at the same point in their terms.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pY8vPseNlUTqBP-piFRHKKg&output=html&gid=0&single=true&widget=true
The Clinton recession which began during Bush's term.
Record stock market levels.
The stock markets achieve record highs under nearly every president. Nothing special about that. What is special is the unusually pathetic performance of all market during Bush's term.
Only when compared to every other two term post-World War II president does the Dow Jones under Bush appear to be pathetic!
Not only has every two term post-World War II president seen a record high Dow but the rate at which the Dow increased was progressively higher than the previous two termer.
The previous "worst" performance of the Dow under a two term post-WWII president was under Eisenhower who saw a 130% increase during the same period the Bushies were raving about Dow 14,000 which was only up 32%. But why mention that fact?
http://caseagainstbush.blogspot.com/2007/07/dow-14000-to-casual-observer-it-may.html
Near record levels of employment..
Near record compared to what? The lowest unemployment rate since records were kept was 2.5% in May & June of 1953 while under Clinton the lowest was 3.8 in April 2000. The current 4.7% unemployment is nearly 24% higher than Clinton's lowest & 88% higher than Eisenhower's all time low. Near record levels of employment?
http://caseagainstbush.blogspot.com/2005/05/dispelling-myth-minimum-wage-increases.html#minimum
Steady increase in real wages.
The single longest period without an increase in the minimum wage. Second longest under Reagan/Bush I.
..etc., etc., etc,
Highest national debt ever.
Gas prices so high barely second only to Reagan.
Poverty rate 8.85% higher than when Bush took office. Currently 12.3%
NYMEX crude oil is up 227% at 93.31 per barrel.
DJIA is only up 24.74%
NASDAQ is down 6.11%
S & P is only 6.37%
Failed to capture or kill Osama bin Laden.
Failed to solve anthrax attacks.
Invaded the wrong country, justified with lies, no end in sight. Bankrupting the country.
What? No one wants to refute the facts?
CaseAgainstBush.com
The Stranger,
"How's about the multitude of lies the MSM has been caught in about the situation in Iraq"
Feel free to elaborate what you consider "lies" about Iraq.
"Joseph McCarthy is an American hero who was smeared by the lying left and the corrupt, lying MSM. The Venona Report, which the lying left and the lying, corrupt MSM decided to ignore, show him to be 100% correct."Feel free to explain the below:"He was noted for making claims that there were large numbers of Communists and Soviet spies and sympathizers inside the federal government and elsewhere. Ultimately, McCarthy's tactics and his inability to substantiate his claims led to his being discredited and censured by the United States Senate. McCarthy was never able to substantiate his sensational charges. In succeeding years, McCarthy made accusations of Communist infiltration into the State Department, the administration of President Truman, Voice of America, and the United States Army. He also used charges of communism, communist sympathies, or disloyalty to attack a number of politicians and other individuals inside and outside of government. With the highly publicized Army-McCarthy hearings of 1954, McCarthy's support and popularity began to fade. Later in 1954, the Senate voted to censure Senator McCarthy by a vote of 67 to 22, making him one of the few senators ever to be disciplined in this fashion. It is well documented that McCarthy lied about his war record. Despite his automatic commission, he claimed to have enlisted as a "buck private". He flew 12 combat missions as a gunner-observer, but later claimed 32 missions in order to qualify for a Distinguished Flying Cross, which he received in 1952. McCarthy publicized a letter of commendation signed by his commanding officer and countersigned by Admiral Chester Nimitz, but it was revealed that McCarthy had written this letter himself, in his capacity as intelligence officer. A "war wound" that McCarthy made the subject of varying stories involving airplane crashes or antiaircraft fire was in fact received aboard ship during an initiation ceremony for sailors who cross the equator for the first time.""Liar....Bush DID NOT fire the majority of the US attornies at the beginning of his term.They handed in their resignations."
Are you actually attempting to parse a difference between being "fired" (at the end of your term) and being told to submit a letter of resignation (at the end of your term)?
"The Bush admin decided that the work of eight was not up to standard....so they got rid of them like they should have."Funny how all the "under performers" involved were either successfully prosecuting Republicans or unsuccessfully prosecuting Democrats.It is embarrassing to me as am American to know that so many of my countrymen are either woefully uniformed or so dishonest.
Some of the proven spies in the government include, but are not by any means limited to the following:
Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, Allan May, Klaus Fuchs, Donald McClean, Theodore Hall, Jane Zlatowski, Maurice Halperin, Elizabeth Bentley, Judith Coplon, Victor Perlo, Harold Ware, Lee Pressman, Nathan Witt, John Abt, Charles Kramer, Henry Collins, George Silverman, Marion Bachrach, John Hermann, Nathan Weyl, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Harold Gold, Morton Sobell, Joel Barr, Alfred Sarrant
Now just go away
Are you actually attempting to parse a difference between being "fired" (at the end of your term) and being told to submit a letter of resignation (at the end of your term)?
No one told them to submit their resignations
Funny how all the "under performers" involved were either successfully prosecuting Republicans or unsuccessfully prosecuting Democrats.
Liar...name the situation
One in washington, after much study refused to act in the govenor's race.
The one who brought down Duke Cuningham, and was abought to do the same for a Mr. Lewis, but she had to leave before completing the job.
You are either amazingly dumb, or astoundingly dishonest.
McKay got his ass canned in Washington because he would not pursue voter fraud. Honest elections are the bedrock of our democracy. He was entrusted to help ensure that elections were fair, but he did not...so he got his ass thrown out.
You could not be more wrong about the California case. Carol Lam, who did successfully prosecute that scumbag criminal Cunningham, had nothing to do with the Lewis case. That was being handled out of Los Angeles by Debra Yang..
...you lying idiot, you..
McKay got fired because he looked into the voter fraud in Washington and found nothing to prosecute and the Bush administration wanted a prosecution anyway you ignorant putz
Liar..he knew it happened, but refused to bring charges.
Here's what an independent commission found:
One of the most recent well-publicized voter fraud cases occurred in the Washington State governor’s race in November 2004 in which Democrat Christine Gregoire allegedly defeated Republican Dino Rossi by 129 votes after weeks of vote counting. The Washington State Superior Court found that 1,400 felons voted illegally, along with illegal votes cast by 53 dead people, two non-citizens and 27 double votes. Since Washington State does not have party voter registration, there was no way of proving exactly how they voted, so the judge ruled there was not enough proof to void the election.
You are not only a LIAR you are incredibly stupid. Even your own citation, which lacked any reference, said there wasnt enough evidence to prosecute. Since THEY said so what did you want McKay to do again? There just isnt any real evidence of co-ordinated voter fraud a FEDERAL STUDY SAID EXACTLY THAT
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?hp
WASHINGTON, April 11 — Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.
Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.
Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.
Mistakes and lapses in enforcing voting and registration rules routinely occur in elections, allowing thousands of ineligible voters to go to the polls. But the federal cases provide little evidence of widespread, organized fraud, prosecutors and election law experts said.
“There was nothing that we uncovered that suggested some sort of concerted effort to tilt the election,” Richard G. Frohling, an assistant United States attorney in Milwaukee, said.
Richard L. Hasen, an expert in election law at the Loyola Law School, agreed, saying: “If they found a single case of a conspiracy to affect the outcome of a Congressional election or a statewide election, that would be significant. But what we see is isolated, small-scale activities that often have not shown any kind of criminal intent.”
What was McKay supposed to do again? You are a liar a fool and a weak propagandist.
He was supposed to go after the perpetrators of vote fraud....who were all democrats by the way.
he did not and got his ass canned like he should have
No, they wanted an election year ISSUE about Democratic voter fraud so they could do the kind of purges that happened in Florida. McKay didnt find any prosecutable cases
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/28/AR2007032801969.html
But the notion of widespread voter fraud, as these prosecutors found out, is itself a fraud. Firing a prosecutor for failing to find wide voter fraud is like firing a park ranger for failing to find Sasquatch. Where fraud exists, of course, it should be prosecuted and punished. (And politicians have been stuffing ballot boxes and buying votes since senators wore togas; Lyndon Johnson won a 1948 Senate race after his partisans famously "found" a box of votes well after the election.) Yet evidence of actual fraud by individual voters is painfully skimpy.
Before and after every close election, politicians and pundits proclaim: The dead are voting, foreigners are voting, people are voting twice. On closer examination, though, most such allegations don't pan out. Consider a list of supposedly dead voters in Upstate New York that was much touted last October. Where reporters looked into names on the list, it turned out that the voters were, to quote Monty Python, "not dead yet."
Or consider Washington state, where McKay closely watched the photo-finish gubernatorial election of 2004. A challenge to ostensibly noncitizen voters was lodged in April 2005 on the questionable basis of "foreign-sounding names." After an election there last year in which more than 2 million votes were cast, following much controversy, only one ballot ended up under suspicion for double-voting. That makes sense. A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.
Cough up the FACTUAL evidence that he refused to prosecute.
wow...the NYT is trying to downplay the dozens of documentes cases of Democrat vote fruad..
..shocked..schocked, I tell ya
And your sources are.......
...pulled directly out of his ass.
John Kerry - the new McCarthy?
John Kerry - the new McCarthy
Actually, the situations are diametrically opposite. Kerry lied about and thereby smeared his fellow soldiers in his "testimony' on the hill.
The Swift Boaters told the truth about Kerry.
Kerry said that the Swift Boaters were liars. T. Boone Pickett challenged Kerry to prove that and offered to give a million dollars to a charity of Kerry's choosing if he could prove one single lie by the Swift Boaters.
It's been almost a month and Kerry is still hiding under his bed.
I'll bet you didn't read about this in the MSM, did ya?
Last heard Mr. Pickette moved the goal posts after the agreement was made.
After being proven a liar, Pickett reneged on the agreement, suggesting he never planned on paying off in the first place.
Just another in a long string of right-wing liars.
Nope..the bets still on. Kerry is wetting his bed.
Whatever.
John Kerry is an honorable man. In his sleep, he has done more to secure fair treatment for veterans than Republicans could concoct smears against him. I proudly cast my vote for the Kerry-Edwards ticket in 2004.
In his sleep, he has done more to secure fair treatment for veterans than Republicans could concoct smears against him
Really? Do tell how he did that.
President Bush raised the VA budget 40%.
So, other than smearing the honorable vets who served in Viet Nam, what else did he do to them?
You mean BESIDES being a war hero? He DIDNT smear vets you lying moron. He blamed POLICY. Bush isnt fit to lick Kerry's boots
My GOD you are an ignorant troll
Nope..the bets still on. Kerry is wetting his bed.
- THE STRANGER / Saturday December 22, 2007 09:03:16 PM EST
So that's why you're all wet... STRANGER.
Looks like "The Stranger" is the new McCarthy.
Charlie McCarthy, that is.
I agree, he's a real dummy.
No he didnt you are a liar just like the Swift Boat Liars for Rent which we have taken apart several times. Pickens made his offer. Kerry accepted it then Pickens changed the deal to a standard that wasnt worth the effort. Kerry is a war hero. YOU are a moron. Pickens is a putz.
War hero? For the North Viet Namese, sure. They even have an exhibit in their war museum thanking Kerry for his help in helping to destroy the American efforts.
He said himself on Meet the Press back in 1973 that he was a war criminal ...that he killed and maimed needlessly. I guess the guilt he felt for the war crimes he committed caused him to project his crimes onto the honorable men who served.
He won the Silver Star you moronic troll. THAT is a war hero. He also opposed the war and lobbied for an end to it. Which is what the North Vietnamese honored him for so what. It was the RIGHT thing to do. Yes he said he comitted war crimes. The point is THEY WERE POLICY YOU IGNORAMUS. It was the POLICIES, not the soldiers he was criticising. Your ignorance is astonishing.
He lied about the circumstances in getting th Silver Star. The Swift Boaters documented that.
He smeared the vets saying they committed atrocities that he himself committed...he admitted to them on Meet the Press.
He went to Paris to meet with the North Viet Namese to get instructions on how to semear the vets and the war effort in general.
he is a war criminal and traitor who should be tried.
the punishmnt for treason is still hanging
What you clowns never explain is how a junior officer was able to get the Navy to give him so many un-deserved commendations.
Whenever I here this nonsense, I know the bedwetter pushing it is NOT a military vet, but one of the political undead who soak up the bile spewed by Chickenhawks like Limbaugh and O'Reilly.
He wrote the report himself about the situation where he got the Silver Star.
He lied.
The Swift Boaters documented that.
Kerry is a war criminal and traitor.
The punishment for treason is death. let's have the trial
So far, on this thread, you've voiced your approval of law enforcement officials being murdered and innocent Americans being persecuted by a drunken megalomaniac with a little power.
You also refuse to believe the US Navy and all of the documentation that they have concerning Senator kerry.
You've lied about his picture being in a war museum Vietnam. And you support the efforts of a band of vets who didn't serve with or witness any of the acts of Senator Kerry, to portray him as a traitor.
He, like many who returned from Vietnam, took advantage of protections guaranteed by the constitution they fought to uphold, to voice their opposition to a war that never should have been fought.
A war that was prolonged by government lies and it's willingness to expend an entire generation of American boys rather than admit to making a mistake.
We need to put this part of our history behind us. To accept everyone who served there as a hero, including Senator Kerry, and to try to reconcile our country.
You may continue to keep the lies alive. I'd prefer we move on.
They documented NO LIES. YOU are a lying moron. Even IF he wrote it which has NOT been documented the Navy INVESTIGATES all such incidents they dont just take a report and hand out a medal you are a liar and a fool. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have done NOTHING but regurgitate long ago debunked propaganda that only the densest of morons still take seriously.
Ahem:
"Commander Geoge Elliott, who wrote up the initial draft of Kerry's Silver Star citation, confirms that neither he, nor anyone else in the Silver Star process that he knows, realized before 1996 that Kerry was facing a single, wounded young Viet Cong fleeing in a loincloth. While Commander Elliott and many other Swiftees believe that Kerry committed no crime in killing the fleeing, wounded enemy (with a loaded or empty launcher), others feel differently. Commander Elliott indicates that a Silver Star recommendation would not have been made by him had he been aware of the actual facts."
The SBVT explained that. They essentially thought Kerry was a sh*tbird and didn't protest his dishonest efforts to get out of Vietnam. They wanted him out of there just as badly as Kerry wanted out.
The Swift Boat LIARS for RENT didnt EXPLAIN anything. They made baseless assertions, accusations without evidence and gave their venal OPINIONS. Contradicted by the majority of those AT the events, AND the official record. IF he was so bad and they were so ready to get rid of him WHY did he get such good evaluations? Also three purple hearts and you got to go home that was the RULe at the time so there wasnt anything to contest. Another hiveminder regurgitating things he doesnt know anything about.
No they didn you lying moron. Not ONE of the Swift Boat Liars for Rent were THERE at the Silver Star incident. They documented NOTHING. They made baseless accusations. The NAVY, the official records and EVERYONE who was AT the incident agrees on the story that got him the Silver Star my GOD you are a moron who NEVER knows what he is talking about and simply repeats the hivemind mantras. Stupid is far too kind a word to use for ignorance of your magnitude
There's a difference, Solon. Ignorance is correctable by learning. Stupidity is for life.
The picture in the museum was taken in 1993 when Senator Kerry visited Vietnam as a representative of this country to try to resolve the MIA/POW issues.
This just proves the depth you're willing to sink to in pushing you're bedwetter conspiracy theories.
Now, I'm convinced, you're an idiot.
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
- Julius (Groucho) Marx
Wasn't Senator McCain with him on that trip? I seem to remember it was a joint venture between them.
Nope..it was Tom Harkin...who coincidentally is another lying Democrat senator that lied about his service in Viet Nam..
...no matter when or why the picture was taken..it is in the section of the war museum honoring US traitors..
Together McCain and Kerrey led the effort to normalize relations with Vietnam.
You must find McCain to be a traitor too, right? He condemned the Swifties
"Kerry is a war hero."
War heroes do not use wounds that can be treated with Bactine as an excuse to quit the fight. The 260+ members of the SBVT and their veteran supporters, including one Medal of Honor recipient, are true heroes. They, unlike Kerry, did not wimp out once the swift boats' mission in Vietnam was changed.
Kerry was a war hero. He won a silver star. He decided to go home AFTER he performed bravely doing his duty. During his SECOND tour. The Swift Boat LIARS for Rent got mad that Kerry opposed the war. You MIGHT have a point if it were WW2, however no one can blame someone for not wanting to stay in Vietnam there was nothing America had at stake there. It was wrong to be there in the first place. It isnt up to YOU to decide that someone who won the SILVER STAR isnt a war hero. You conservatives just think that ONLY conservatives should be honored for ANYTHING they do.
If you weren't there, you've got no right to judge.
Only a coward would call another persons wounds trivial. Many vets are behind Kerry and believe he gave them a voice after the war.
When and where were you under fire, and I'm not talking about incoming posts?
philib,"buzz, is that your contribution to the war effort? Try to get others to join so your lazy 'buzzed' ars doesn't have to face the dangers of terrorism on the homeland? If you call for others to fight for you, maybe you should grow some balls and join with him. Somehow I think you feel safe using momma's CP in the basement far from any dangers...beyond having to take the trash out or doing the dishes. Do you even help your mom out with those simple chores? Nah, I figure you expect to have everything done for you. Maybe that's why you believe the "truths" of the radical left."
Let me take a wild guess, "philib" has never served in the military?
pooka7492264,"Stranger, I wondered the same thing! Nobody reported how much money NBC's parent company will make if everyone goes green. It is again all about money."
Just a thought but isn't it funny how making money is good to RWnuts right up until they think someone else might get some?
regent60,"Funny how you left all of the racially, culturally and just plain studid and insensitive comments that we hear on Air America everyday. Heck, three hours of the Randi Rhodes show would give you more information than your entire article covered. Why not try holding the left to the same inane standards that you've set for the right. Or would that hurt too much."
Feel free to post any such comments made by ANYONE on AAR and I will easily match them with comments made by just one RW pundit, your choice - O'Reilly or COulter.
RINO Hunter,"Wow. The anti-free speech Thought Police is at it again. I have a question for everybody. Do you think that Media Matters will try to censor Rush first after the new year or will they go after O'Reilly instead."
Feel free to explain how pointing out (in verbatim text) the falsehoods of your favorite RW pundits = censorship. Why do you equate accountability with repression?
Media Matters will never go to heaven they are lying again!!!!
Most of us with the exception of Hillary and Bill Harry and Nancy(Clinton reduced the military and the monies while in office.)care about the Military so Merry Christmas to all of the US Military their families and God Bless America.
Those are cuttin words to the Dems Soozy
Passes out eggnog and starts another verse of Johnny Mathis...
It's beginning to look a lot like WINGNUTS
Ev'rywhere you go;
There's a tree in the Grand Hotel, one in FINARFIN's head as well
The sturdy kind that keeps the thinking slow.
It's beginning to look a lot like WINGNUTS
Soon THE STRANGER will start
And the thing that will make neocons ring is the talking points they sing
Right within their cold black conservative hearts.
There once were some radio cons
Whose hate talk produced many spawns
But you see there's a need
For so many hate screeds
To recruit their hiveminding pawns
With libs, If you happen not to agree,
On race, Islam or the true taste of Brie,
they'll trash your prospective,
You'll be attacked with invective,
There's no end in Lib hate, that i can see.
Uncky Cracker, You stink at limericks, there are syllable limitations. If you can't do them right, don't do them at all.
And when you espouse vile, ignorant, repugnant views, good people are going to call you on it. So no whiny baby stuff there Flim Flam.
Sure, JJ, you just want to trash Finklefarfin's prospective. Whatever that means.
Finny's a moronic troll
He thinks his dumb posts are droll
He drools like a fool
Acts like a tool
His posts need a trip round the bowl
Now THAT was a good limerick and funny too.
Solon...
His posts need a flush down a giant heavy duty toilet bowl.
Be sure to wear a top quality gas mask for such a nasty job as this one.
Fin,
Any argument that you make accusing anyone of hate are laughable. I just saw your definition of white supremacism. What aspects do you find white people superior in?
your racism is disgusting.
The Stranger--Please do not use deliberately inflamatory language.
Also, how is this a "good" economy? We now have a huge budget deficit, I believe the largest in history, coming off of Clinton, who left us with a huge budget surplus. Clinton told Bush, as he was leaving office, to pay attention to Al Qaeda; Bush ignored him. What's more, Bush ignored clear signs leading up to 9/11, and after it happened, he used it as an excuse to get us to invade Iraq, which had no connection with the attacks.
On days when I can see only an America of cruelty and lies, Media Matters, and many of you who post in response, give me hope. This new hate is more destructive than that we saw on our TV screens with cops with bludgeons, hoses and dogs. When Americans nationwide could no longer ignore the viciousness a new movement was born. This rtwing, hatred, mind control venom and trading on middle class resentments is as evil if not more so because it can move quietly under the surface and infect too many who are incapable of real thought.
Media Matters spotlights the ways these right-wing blowhards pander to pig-ignorant, willful bigots.
The right-wing trolls appear and confirm it. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, stupid is as stupid is.
Ogg, the current crop on this thread seem especially virulent, No?
JJ --
Compared to real, red-blooded, god-fearing rightwingers, such as those on stormfront.org or godhatesfags.org, these are still a lotta namby-pamby, milksop, vanilla-pudding right-wing bigots. Sissies.
P.S. --
If anyone is still confused about Looneytarianism as a social-Darwinist right-wing philosophical and political ideology, Stormfront has just endorsed Ron Paul:
http://correntewire.com/stormfront_endorses_paul
When it comes to social Darwinism, the Looneytarians make the GOP look like Mahatma Gandhi. Survival of the most predatory with a vengeance.
Well, if the Paultards have done nothing else, they have gotten people more aware of what the various strains of libertarians stand for. And some of them (the various strains) are mighty kooky. The anacho-capitalists and neolibertarians are very kooky. The technolibertarians are just kinda weird. Then there's the hippie libertarians like Larry Flynt. I kind of liked Ron Paul because he's anti Nafta and anti war, but I've come to realize better after seeing some of his other views.
They're just gearing up for a big steaming heap'n o Christmas pudding. Instead, found themselves waddling around in a steaming cow pie of lies and insane ramblings.
I've opted to just carol at them, tis the season and all.
I do not see any comments regarding any misinformation Air America and or any of its' commentators may have made or any criticism of any Liberal commentator. Am I to believe they made none or am I to believe Media Matters is not for all people, but only for the Liberal/Socialist viewpoint?
Please advise, I thought I had become associated with a High Minder organization.
the title of the article is what caught my attention becauswe it still is and never was just Imus. But somehow he was the only one that they went after like a dog after a pork chop. Don't get me gwrong I don't defend what Imus said but he owned it;apologized for it to the people he offendeD. And they accepted .and from everything I can find his radio personality is not s clue to him personally unlike some of the others. He should have been punished hopefully he has learned. But the blame should be shared by his former employers that's what they hired him for.now tell me why sharpton and jackson and all the dogs didn't go after Limpballs O'reilly,Savage, Beck with the same result of getting them fired. SAme behavior same standard the result should have been the same.This is why as a black female I don't care that he got his job back.The others lied ,didn't apologize and continue and haven't recieved aq slap on the wrist so what difference did the Imus incident make it showed sharpton an jackson to be oppurtunist lunch with and appearing with oreilly.
I nominate Media Matters for Hillary as the Misinformer of the Year. From their denials of being connected to George Soros to their dishonest portrayal of Rush Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" comments, David Brock and his band of sissies have shown us how little regard they have for the truth.
I second that nomination. This site is the propaganda arm of the Hillary campaign.
YOU are a liar and a fool
I nominate you for MORON of the day for repeating the ignorance that we have already swatted away a dozen times. The LIES about connections with Soros you cant prove so you just keep repeating the stupidity that as a loyal Limborg hiveminder regurgitates as is your duty about Limbaugh who DID call the soldiers that disagree with him phonies. We dont care that YOU are stupid enough to buy his BS, we arent.
Koozaid & Jack the Ripper....
Too Funny!
You guys are straight out of Loony Tunes. Even your names are a dead give away. You're both sick from too much KooZaid!
You're also sick about losing the House to Democrats. You're sick about losing the Senate to Democrats. Have you figured out yet why you're being voted out of power?
In 08 you're going to be sick when you lose control of the White House and you'll still be trying to sell your dishonest, idiotic KooZaid.
"We are certainly better prepared and more focused on, you know, taking our arguments, and making them effective, and disseminating them widely, and really putting together a network, uh, in the blogosphere, in a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institutions that I helped to start and support like Media Matters and Center for American Progress." - Hillary Clinton
MMFA denies any affiliation with Hillary. Who do we believe? It’s like choosing between the veracity of pathological liars Tommy Flanagan and Joe Isuzu.
YOU are stupid. Yes Hillary helped raise money for several umbrella organizations that provided the money and infrastructure which could in TURN fund grass roots organizations like this one. YOU are stupid enough to think that means she controls this site. WAIT, you are too stupid to think ANYTHING, you are TOLD what to think and I am guessing it was the Oxymoron who told you to believe this inanity
infrastructure which could in TURN fund grass roots organizations like this one
Umm...Slappy, grass roots, by definition, means supported and funded by the people...not having the politicians create their own propaganda outlets...
..wow...this post is extremely telling..
...it's no wonder that you're so easily mislead..it really is scary...
..it's alo discomfitting to me that the vote of such an uniformed, easily duped conformist sheeple could cancel mine out..
Now watch the blithering simp Solon come back with some idiotic, incoherent rantings about beehives, or something, then go off about how anyone who thinks for him/herself is a Rush Limbaugh poodle..
..while at the same time (this is the funny part) boasting about how she gets her talking points from Keith Olberman..
..ya just cannot make this stuff up..
Now watch the blithering simp Solon come back with some idiotic, incoherent rantings
Don't worry, little one. Someday your posts will be up to the level of Solon's posts that you are so jealous of.
Pot, meet kettle. Stop your inane projections and actually post some facts for one, and maybe we will stop laughing at every ignorant post you make.
That does not mean she runs the sites or has anything to do with the content. And there still is no linkage to THIS site. Solon was speaking in general terms but your "thinking"is too sloppy to comprehend simple nuances of word usage. You have demonstrated the inability to understand simple concepts. That's why Rush, et al needs to program you. You are a perfect pawn and patsy for the RW noise machine. You are certainly not fooling anybody here with your pseudo arguments and trash talk.
White males run this country. It’s been a long party. In the friction between the “left” and “right” over who is better to preside over the bash, there is little argument over what they celebrate. The right-wingers have merely one-upped the opposition by declaring themselves the purer proponents of America’s purported goodness. They’re the super-military, super capitalists, super Israelists, super border protection or super-anything that white guys have built, or, in the case of slavery, directed to be constructed. I call them the Last of the White Boys (LOT-WB), and anyone countering their ideology puts America, indeed Western civilization at peril--especially when the country is at war, even an illegal one they helped create. The right-wingers histrionic protestations notwithstanding, the mainstream media, one right-wing version of the left, are the frontline defenders of the nonsensical. It was they, remember, who notoriously accepted Bush’s “they hate our freedoms” as the explanation for 9-11, and who never pressed why this country is building permanent bases in Iraq if the plan is to leave Iraq, and its oil, to the Iraqis. The wingers let them know when they slip and broach anything approximating journalism and free speech. Sure, the other side would rather win, but they also risk being ostracized from the society from which many have benefited--and here I also mean emotionally-- if they push too far. The ultimate penalty for white sellouts, in fact, is banishment, a task that falls chiefly to the talk radio broadcasters, and, of course, the television personalities of FOX, er, News. It’s not a coincidence that a Democratically-controlled Congress has not closed down this war even though enough voters sent them to D.C. to do just that. Was not Kerry the calmest Democrat in the U.S. after that contentious election in 2000? That congressional hearing with David Petraeus was little more than the right-wing shrieking that no one had a right to question the veracity of a white guy with all those medals, even though the general is an employee of the man war critics can agree lied the country into a war. Notice that it worked. But something’s happening in America that’s justifiably begun to scare the right-wingers, and their enablers. In two words, the Internet. The blogs, in particular, have been unprecedented in enhancing the visibility of the opposition. Even those sites that started out in the political box--and that to a large degree still remain there, like Arianna Huffington’s-- feature writers like Jane Smiley, and respondents, telling the real story. They’re not afraid of words like “imperialism,” “disaster capitalism,” “Zionism,” “racism,” and, yes, “war criminals.” A growing number of the recalcitrant are themselves white and male. Indeed, some white males have teamed up with folks they may have even had disagreements six years ago to trade in a white male for a different model of American political leadership. I suspect this is President Bush’s main failing, as far as the right-wing is concerned: the hate he engenders among all those potential allies. Black people have been getting busy too. Using black radio and chatrooms, they’ve protested the criminal justice system and American response to tragedies like Katrina. The Last of the White Boys, in short, have run into a movement. As the increased volume of their yelps and smears, as well as their increased excursions into the irrelevant, indicates, it’s a blustery, righteous one. And this is only the beginning. And the beginning of the end--the, if you will, dimming of the lights, if not for the white boy party itself--for its more zealous celebrants.
I cannot believe there are so many conservatives that actually listen to and watch all the above mentioned shows. I am a 64 year old women that has seen the Best in Washington and now the Worse. I cry myself to sleep almost every night, we are giving the United States and what it stands for away to this administration. Why don't the people wake-up!!!!!!!!!!!
Imus is not a misinformer.
Imus does not provide information, right or wrong to his audience.
He is a stupid, rude lout. "Misinformer" implies some level of substance, which Imus does not acheive.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL...
-SAM I AM-
Happy Holidays to you too Sam, and to everyone else.
Happy Holidays !!!