Fox News' Wilson falsely claimed that O'Reilly said "confrontation" with Obama staffer was "just verbal"
SUMMARY: On Fox News' Weekend Live, reporting on an incident involving Bill O'Reilly and an aide for Sen. Barack Obama, Brian Wilson said that "Obama staffers now say the confrontation got physical," but that O'Reilly "says it was heated but just verbal." But when Wilson had earlier interviewed O'Reilly about the incident, O'Reilly had repeatedly said he had "removed" or "gently removed" the Obama aide from in front of The O'Reilly Factor's camera.
On the January 5 edition of Fox News' Weekend Live, discussing an incident between Fox News host Bill O'Reilly and Marvin Nicholson, a staffer for Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), at an event in Nashua, New Hampshire, anchor Brian Wilson said that "Obama staffers now say the confrontation got physical," but that O'Reilly "says it was heated but just verbal." Wilson then aired a clip from an interview he had conducted with O'Reilly earlier in the program, in which O'Reilly claimed: "I might have called him an SOB. That's possible ... but nothing more than that." In the clip Wilson aired, O'Reilly was responding to Wilson's question, "Were there any profanities uttered?" In fact, while O'Reilly denied there had been a "scuffle" during the same interview, he also repeatedly said that he had "removed" or "gently removed" Nicholson from in front of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor's camera.
Other media reports described O'Reilly's confrontation with Nicholson as physical. Slate.com's John Dickerson reported in a January 5 article that O'Reilly "shoved" Nicholson:
At first, the railing where O'Reilly stood wasn't very populated. Then, as the Obama team saw who was laying in wait, they started to huddle. Staffers started to arrive at the scene. Three policemen showed up, too. One of them stood in front of O'Reilly until O'Reilly asked him to move. One of Obama's staffers, Marvin Nicholson, took up the same post, standing in front of the Fox camera as Obama neared the door.
"You're blocking our shot," yelled O'Reilly.
"Oh, am I?" asked the Obama staffer, not entirely sincerely, and not moving.
This is not a new trick. When staffers block you because you're being too aggressive, the standard thing to do is give them a little business and then move to another spot. O'Reilly didn't do this. He shoved the Obama aide. There was an exchange and a little more shoving. I didn't fully capture it because as I looked at O'Reilly in his black leather Fox jacket, which resembled the kind we wore during football season in high school, I swore I could hear him challenge the staffer to a rumble out by the drive-in.
Chicago Sun-Times Washington bureau chief Lynn Sweet wrote in a January 5 post to her blog that, according to "several eyewitnesses," "O'Reilly grabbed Nicholson's arm and shoved him," and that "Secret Service agents who were nearby flanked O'Reilly after he pushed Nicholson." And in a January 5 post on The Boston Globe's Political Intelligence blog, staff writer Sasha Issenberg wrote that "Secret Service officials separated O'Reilly and Obama aide Marvin Nicholson after the Fox News Channel personality grabbed Nicholson on a post-speech rope line in a high-school gym here. According to a witness, O'Reilly reached with two hands for Nicholson -- who at 6-foot-8 had a slight height advantage over O'Reilly -- because he stood between O'Reilly's cameraman and Obama as the newsman called out for the candidate's attention."
From the 3 p.m. ET hour of the January 5 edition of Fox News' Weekend Live:
WILSON: Now, I want to mention that, earlier today, there was some sort of incident between Fox's Bill O'Reilly and a staffer for Barack Obama. We thought that we would go straight to the source on this and ask the host of the Factor himself what happened there. There are many, many reports about this; some of them are on the blogs. Bill O'Reilly's on the phone now.
Bill, you're at an Obama event, you're standing in a rope line -- a rope line where the candidate is coming by shaking hands with people in the rope line -- what happened?
O'REILLY: Well, let me set the scene a little bit more than that, Brian. First, we visited [Sen.] Hillary Clinton's [D-NY] campaign and -- trying to get a question in to the senator. Couldn't quite do that, but we did get an interesting back-and-forth from her on the stage to me standing there, and that was -- it went fine, it was no problem. Then we went over to the Nashua event that [Fox News congressional correspondent] Major Garrett just described, and it was a big zoo, thousands of people there, and we set up our camera to try to get a question to Senator Obama.
So a big guy comes over, I guess he's about 6-foot-8, according to the press reports, and he stands right in front of the Factor camera. So I asked him, you know, fairly nicely, "You're blocking our shot, sir, you need to move a little bit" -- and the cameraman that I had actually moved away from him. He moved right in front of the cameraman again to block our shot. So I had to gently remove him from that position, Brian.
WILSON: All right, let me ask you a quick couple more questions. I got about 90 seconds before I have to go to a break. There are reports that there was a scuffle. Was there a scuffle?
O'REILLY: No, no scuffle at all. I just removed him from in front of the camera.
WILSON: We have heard reports that there may have been profanities uttered. Were there any profanities uttered?
O'REILLY: I might have called him an SOB. That's possible --
WILSON: All right.
O'REILL: -- but nothing, nothing more than that.
WILSON: And there's also a report that the Secret Service had to restrain you. Did that happen?
O'REILLY: Oh, that is absolutely ridiculous, because about 10 seconds after I gently removed the man from in front of our camera, I actually spoke to Barack Obama. And the Secret Service guys let me right by, and we had a nice little chat, which you'll hear on the Factor Monday night.
WILSON: Yeah, you're in fact going to show all of -- we have some limited tape of this coming in, in a while, so we'll be able to show some version of it --
O'REILLY: Right.
WILSON: -- but you'll show your version on the Factor Monday, correct?
O'REILLY: That's right. And we're sorry we had to have that little confrontation but no one on this earth is going to block a shot on The O'Reilly Factor. It is not going to happen.
WILSON: Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much for being with us here on Weekend Live.
O'REILLY: OK, Brian.
WILSON: We appreciate you taking the call.
[...]
WILSON: But I want to talk about this incident that occurred earlier today, an incident between Bill -- Fox's Bill O'Reilly and a Barack Obama staffer at an Obama campaign stop. Obama staffers now say the confrontation got physical. We gave the Factor host a call in the last hour to find out what happened; O'Reilly says it was heated but just verbal. Take a listen.
[begin video clip]
NICHOLSON: After he shoved me and after he was done yelling at me, I went -- I just went over and I asked -- I said, "Sir, I'd just really appreciate it if you wouldn't shove me anymore."
[...]
O'REILLY: I might have called him an SOB. That's possible --
WILSON: All right.
O'REILLY: -- but nothing more than that.
[end video clip]
WILSON: So, there you have Bill O'Reilly, and the first gentleman you saw was a man by the name of Marvin Nicholson, who, by the way, is 6-foot-8 inches tall -- big guy. He's considered Barack Obama's body guy, the guy that is always beside Barack Obama. This happened on a rope line and as the cameras came close, Bill came closer -- as the candidate came closer, Bill O'Reilly says he tried to get a shot, that Marvin Nicholson got in the way. There was some kind of confrontation that went on between the two.
Bill O'Reilly says he may have called the guy an SOB. At the end of it all, however, Barack Obama did come over for a moment and talk to Bill O'Reilly. We are told that that conversation lasted less than a minute. Now, Bill O'Reilly has his own tape of this incident, and they're going to show whatever happened in this kerfuffle on Monday on the Factor.
So, we report, you decide. We'll look at Bill's tape -- we'll try to figure out what happened here -- but it is the topic of much discussion here in Manchester today, and, of course, on those ever-present blogs.
o'reilly using that combat experience?
Ha! He rode in on his beligerant Belgian apparently.
I say screw him and the beligerant Belgian he rode in on.
I say screw him and the beligerant Belgian he rode in on. --JuliaJane
My wife said okay to the beligerant Belgian. But, O'Reilly? Well, he's just out of luck.
Has anyone seen my horse?
Um, ...has anyone ...ah, seen my wife?
Rut Roh.
I think O'Reilly did screw the billegerent belgian. Quick, someone call PETA.
"but you'll show your version on the Factor Monday, correct?"
Freudian slip?
Since FOX Noise's camera is likely the only one that got the best shots of the entire incident, you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be cropped and chopped and edited to death to show every possible angle that BillO's version is the 'correct' one......
Gotta love that 'No Spin Zone' fantasy that Billy loves to live in!
I don't know, I detest O'Reilly, but I also suspect that if it had been anything more than what he claims, there would have been a major bru-ha ha over it, in the legal sense. The Secret Service wouldn't have just stood there. And the Obama aide is on the spot-- if true, he should press charges for assault.
"The Secret Service wouldn't have just stood there."
They didn't. Every report outside of O'Reilly's notes that the Secret Service intervened after O'Reilly shoved the staffer.
There's a word for pushing someone out of your way. It's called "ASSAULT", and it's against the law.
In your trial, you can attempt to mitigate your crime by pointing out the person you moved was in an unreasonable place, or "look at how BIG this guy is!", or you can try to convince the jury your ASSAULT was "gentle". This may or may not convince them to let you off easy.
But when you physically take control of someone, to move them where YOU want them to be, it's a CRIME.
It's also a mitigating circumstance WHERE you decide to commit such an assault. If you do so in a high security area, the THREAT level is raised considerably. Try shoving, say, a bag checker at the security station in an airport, and see what happens.
So, by YOUR logic, every time I walk down the street and bumb into someone during rush hour lunch traffic I've assaulted them? I think there's a qualifier called 'criminal intent' that needs to be used before you say every time someone contacts someone else there is an assault.
The staffer was rude and got what he expected to get. His job is done. On to the next whiney story....
O'really? You compare someone getting bumped on the street to O'reilly shoving a staffer who is specifically protecting Obama from harm? Gosh it takes a lot of blinders to be so obtuse.
"But when you physically take control of someone, to move them where YOU want them to be, it's a CRIME."
I'm sorry, mary. I'M not the one claiming it's illegal, so take a look at who IS claiming it's illegal to bump into someone.
PHIL:
Depends. As you tell your story to the jury about your "just bumping into them in the street", be sure to include that you also called them a SOB.
See, the jury might view that chance "bump" as something more than you claim, considering the additional evidence.
Phil,
Are you seriously saying BOR bumped into him accidentally? You see no intent to do it?
Well looky here...yet another poll showing that Fox is actually the the most trusted name in news.
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/08/most-trusted-national-tv-news-organizations/
People really do want the truth...not the lying propaganda being pushed by the rest of the MSM.
whom do we trust? Faux News or our "lying eyes, ears and brain"....
This man puts the Narc in Narcisist!
New York Times has pictures and another account of O'Reilly shoving the staffer. You can't really get away with lying about shoving somebody if a dozen people with cameras were there to watch you do it.
[link to thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com]
No Repugnant has ever let cameras or witnesses deter them from lying. Since the alternative for them is to stand mute, I suppose I understand.
Yeah, I know: O'LIElly claims to be an "Independent". See what I mean about lying?
CONLEY,
"No Repugnant has ever let cameras or witnesses deter them from lying."
Perhaps you meant to say:
"No Repugnant has ever let cameras or witnesses deter them from telling the lie as truth as they want you to remember it."
"No Repugnant has ever let cameras or witnesses deter them from telling the lie as truth as they want you to remember it."
OR, what is meant is: "No Demoncat has ever let cameras or witnesses deter them from telling the lie as mmfa determines it's truth value dependant on readership."
Phil,
Have you seen the tape? Does O'Reilly push (or at minimum put his hands) on the security guy?
Is it O'Reilly or is it the lying, corrupt MSM and the lying left like Mendacious Morons for Asininity?
...hmmm...it sure looks like the former...again:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/06/caught-on-tape-oreilly-versus-the-obama-staffer/
Hm, sure looks like you didn't even watch the video you're linking to. It begins AFTER the scuffle, with a woman saying, "O'Reilly is fighting...did you get that?"
"Is it O'Reilly or is it the lying, corrupt MSM and the lying left like Mendacious Morons for Asininity?
...hmmm...it sure looks like the former...again:" The Stranger:
Good to see that you agree with us, Stranger or do you not know the ddefinition of the word former? In your quote, former would have to be O'Reilly. The latter would be the media and MMFA.
If you don't think it got physical, why does O'Reilly think it did:
Fried, you know The Stranger can't be bogged down by such petty things as "sentence structure" and "etymology."
Crooks and Liars, huh?
What an aptly named blog.
They sure were lying the rear ends off about this. The audio and video tapes they link to show the exact opposite from what they claim.
Are they always this crooked?
Stranger,
Do you deny that O'Reilly put his hands on the guy? In the DIRECT quote I linked from BOR he says he had to move the guy. If you look at the footage from BOR's show, he does exactly that if not pushes him (note the :30-:35 second mark).
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/07/bill-oreilly-shoves-obamas-staffer-unhinged-the-full-video/
Do you deny this? Watch the tape and let me know if you think he pushed the guy or not. Also, why wasn't O'Reilly with the rest of the press?
“Mr. O’Reilly was not in the front of the rope line. When Mr. Nicholson was asked to move away from the camera’s position, he declined. When the camera changed position, Mr. Nicholson moved to stand in front of it again.'’
“We would very much appreciate it if you could add those facts to your story,” Mr. Mitchell said.
Ha! Rewriting history again. cause we know O'reilly is much more believable than say, a secret service agent, right? <snort!>
Can't wait until tomorrow evening...Bill will hype his show on the radio...Wait, reruns of the Addams family are on at that time...Sorry Bill got to watch Gomez...he is more truthfil than you. But good luck Bill but please try to be truthful. I only said TRY.
Anybody taking bets on who Olbermann calls Worst Person in the World on Monday's show?
Here's hoping Billo gets all three spots.
Here's hoping Billo gets all three spots.
And he could conceivably GET all three spots - one for his behavior at the Obama event, one for his behavior at the Clinton event, and one for lying about it later.
Anybody taking bets on who Olbermann calls Worst Person in the World on Monday's show?
My bookie. She rides a non-partisan Pinto.
It should be whoever wrote this lie. Video shows O'reilly was telling the truth.
of course, that's going to stop Chicken n' Waffles Olbermann from propagating the lie.
It's what he does...it's all he has
"Video shows O'reilly was telling the truth."
Actually, the video shows that you either you didn't bother to watch the video or you're not telling the truth about what it shows.
Stranger,
Do you read what you write before you post to make sure it makes sense? If O'Reilly telling the truth is "going to stop Chicken n' Waffles Olbermann from propagating the lie," -(you) then your whole post trying to smear Olbermann is moot.
Really, try to be more careful in the future. This is the second blunder you've made in this thread.
Stranger,
Did you watch the video clip you linked to?
What was BOR telling the truth about?
Really? The picture shows O'Reilly shoving him? I'm gonna go to your link to see if this is true...otherwise, you'd look like the archetypical lying leftard.
Sonofagun...the picture just shows O'Reilly reaching his hand out...no pushinhg...imagine that.
Now...take a look at actual video.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/06/caught-on-tape-oreilly-versus-the-obama-staffer/
..hmmm...sure looks to me that Mendacious Morons for Asininity is caught in yet another lie.
"Really? The picture shows O'Reilly shoving him?"
No, and I never said it did. I said the article provided yet another first hand acccount of O'Reilly "shoving" the staffer.
Did you even watch the video you've now linked to twice? It begins with a woman saying, "Oh, my god, O'Reilly is fighting. Did you get that?" The video begins after the shoving has occurred. And your video has a woman saying that "O'Reilly is fighting."
I love it when the wingnuts post links that prove the exact opposite of what they think they prove.
You provide nothing here except abject stupidity and a strange combination of ignorance and condescension. MY GOD you are stupid. The hivemind is really scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel with ignorant scum like you. You would embarass even the stupidest, brainwashed braindead wingnut, hivemind moron of the past. You are way past your sell by date now and are nothing but an object if pity.
You know Solon, Stranger actually makes me miss CD...At least his posts were just a hit and run type of thing, instead of trying to back up his baseless claims with even more baseless claims.
"...abject stupidity ... ignorance ... stupid ... hivemind ... bottom of the intellectual barrel ... scum ... brainwashed ... braindead ... hivemind ... moron ... way past your sell date ... are nothing but an object if pity."--Solon speaking of Stranger
Solon, I read Stranger's post a couple of times, and compared it with your assessment of him/her. I've gotta say, I think you might be a bit inaccurate when you said; "scum." Just thought I should point that out. :-)
And to think, you and dedend are complaining about stranger not saying anything useful to the conversation. I'm wondering if solon has ever actually made a point? Or, is his job strictly to insult fellow posters?
In case none of you know this: http://mediamatters.org/etc/terms
"DON'T write an otherwise thoughtful post and then close it with insults or profanity. Your post will be removed. Repeat violators will be banned."
"DON'T post here if your sole purpose is to start a flame war. Arguments and debates are fine; obscenity, name-calling, and trolling are not. Violators will be banned."
If your name is solon, then you can insult, profane, name-call, start flame wars and troll all you want without fear of reprisal. Do you think if solon was a RW poster he would be allowed to do what he does? The funny thing is that when solon's consistant and continual failure to obey simple rules is exhaulted by regulars here, but if it's pointed out that he continually and consistantly trolls these threads then the person pointing out the transgression is ostracized.
Good job at furthering the "leftwingers are hypocrits" suspisions.
So your entire post is devoted to trashing Solon, instead of addressing the article which is about O'Reilly shoving an Obama staffer, then lying about it.
To get back on topic, Phil. Do you think BOR pushed the guy? He said he gently moved him which implies it was physical. Watch the film yourself and tell me what you think.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/07/bill-oreilly-shoves-obamas-staffer-unhinged-the-full-video/
Wow! This is incredible. Just as conservatives can’t stand liberals, liberals only bite off a wee-smidgen of the issue. There is no true winner here. If Bill O’Reilly moved the Obama staffer, then he was wrong for moving himself down to the level of the Obama staff idiocy. It is my guess that this [what I would call a] buffoon purposely staged himself in front of the camera to cause hate and discontent. If Obama has nothing to hide, and I do not believe he does, then why the need for such a petty action by a staffer? I believe the staffer was purely ignorant and knew that what he was doing would cause hostility. I’m sure that Media Matters will pin this all on Bill O’Reilly. However, as a Republican that will most likely pick a democratic candidate because of Bush and Cheney’s failure in the White House, as well as other Republican inanity, headlines such as this only help when contemplating a candidate for office. If Obama really feels the need to hide from the Fox News cameras, an outlet with a considerable amount of viewers, then what is he hiding? If a candidate is running for office, I would think he or she would at least have the consideration to talk to me, the average American television viewer, no matter what station I listen to, so that I could have the opportunity to hear the platform and make the best possible choice for a leader of our country since China doesn’t own all of it yet. If Obama’s camp doesn’t even want to speak with Fox News, my choice for news, then maybe he doesn’t want to work for me if elected. I can’t take that chance. Lastly, there is only one reason I haven’t changed my voting status from being a Republican, and that is Mike Huckabee.
Sincerely,
MyParadigm
MP,
Perhaps he is "hiding" from a media outlet that has constantly smeared him.
FOXNews Teaser Says Obama Made 5 Yr Old Cry - It Was A Lie
Ann Coulter Links Barack Obama To Terrorism On Fox News
Gibson is just plain “FOX stupid” on Obama and smoking
Hannity attacked Obama’s church.
MP,
I will write you a longer response later, but why not research Obama on the internet if you feel like he is an option. Since you say he is not appearing on your choice for news and, for that reason, you can't take a "chance" on voting for him, have you researched the reasons why he won't? Did you follow the madrassa story reported on FOX and thoroughly debunked by other networks? What was your reaction to that or do you only get your news on FOX and not realize it was debunked?
Since your choice for a news station is a pure propaganda arm for the GOP. That has SHOWN its bias and hostility. The Democrats are better off letting those like you go than pretending Fox is a real news network that ACTUALLY tries to inform rather than propagandize. IF the day ever comes when you want to REALLY know what is going on rather than reinforce your biases, there are real news outlets, Fox is not one of them. PIPA did a study which showed Fox veiwers were the MOST LIKELY to hold misconceptions about the Iraq war that were DEMONSTRABLY false. That is not a coincidence.
MP,
"Wow! This is incredible. Just as conservatives can’t stand liberals, liberals only bite off a wee-smidgen of the issue. There is no true winner here." The focus of this article was not to name a winner or a loser, but to refute what was broadcast on Fox. The report on Fox said the altercation was only verbal, but BOR himself said he moved the guy,
If Bill O’Reilly moved the Obama staffer, then he was wrong for moving himself down to the level of the Obama staff idiocy. It is my guess that this [what I would call a] buffoon purposely staged himself in front of the camera to cause hate and discontent. That is your guess. Why would you say that someone blocking a camera is an idiot when a presidential candidate is involved? Had O'Reilly been credentialed, he would have been elsewhere. Does every guy in the crowd with a camera have a right to shoot video of Presidential candidates? I certainly hope not! There could be major security concerns with anyone able to scope out how security is at any of these events.
If Obama has nothing to hide, and I do not believe he does, then why the need for such a petty action by a staffer? I believe the staffer was purely ignorant and knew that what he was doing would cause hostility. I’m sure that Media Matters will pin this all on Bill O’Reilly.
Again, why wasn't O'Reilly with the rest of the media at the event? Why was he in with the common folk? Fox has already contradicted O'Reilly's own statements in this issue. O'Reilly sarcastically described "gently moving" the security guy. (Again, how do you "gently move" that guy?). Since you think Obama was hiding, what could O'Reilly possibly be looking for as Obama makes his way through a crowd of supporters? He was thanking them for coming. This is not the time that O'Reilly could have interviewed him anyway, is it? However, as a Republican that will most likely pick a democratic candidate because of Bush and Cheney’s failure in the White House, as well as other Republican inanity, headlines such as this only help when contemplating a candidate for office. By the way, nice capitalization there. How could this possibly help your Presidential choice? Here is another question: Why did Fox choose not to include Ron Paul in its forum last night? How does that shape your view of Fox and/or Paul when making this decision? O'Reilly was maybe going to get a soundbite out of this. What were you expecting here? If Obama really feels the need to hide from the Fox News cameras, an outlet with a considerable amount of viewers, then what is he hiding? If a candidate is running for office, I would think he or she would at least have the consideration to talk to me, the average American television viewer, no matter what station I listen to, so that I could have the opportunity to hear the platform and make the best possible choice for a leader of our country since China doesn’t own all of it yet.
If you are the Fox viewer that you claim to be, did you watch the stories I linked in another post? What were your thoughts on them? Did you follow up by researching the stories or did you take the word of Fox as if it was the 5th Gospel? Since a few of the stories were false or petty and presented as "news," how did you react? How would you react if you were Obama? If Obama’s camp doesn’t even want to speak with Fox News, my choice for news, then maybe he doesn’t want to work for me if elected. I can’t take that chance. Lastly, there is only one reason I haven’t changed my voting status from being a Republican, and that is Mike Huckabee.
Again, did you read the stories linked? Obviously, Fox is not your only outlet for news as you found this site. Do you really think that Obama's unwillingness to appear on Fox is a "risk" for you? How? I am sure that you can find others that present news. How is Huckabee a change, at all, from what you posted as the Bush and Cheney failure and Republican inanity? Do you believe that women should be subsurvient to men? Do you believe that God wanted Huck to win Iowa? What about Huckabee is any type of meaningful change?
ON MONDAY...
IF... We see ALL the footage of the pushing, shoving and the SOB-ing, then and ONLY then will we know more of what really happened. Most, if not all of that footage will be permanently erased or edited out for Mondays show.
O'REILLY: I might have called him an SOB. That's possible -- (followed by Evil Laughing)
This ugly excuse for a man knows exactly what he said and will edit it all out. He will simply say the camera was not rolling at the time of the incident. I just hope someone else captured this telling episode into the character of O'Reilly.
Stop over at Crooks and Liars. Listen closely to their O'Reilly footage, and you can hear him call someone a sonovabitch at the begining.
O'Reilly's own producer, in his e-mail to the N.Y. Times reporter (in the link that Clams Casino provided), does not deny that Bill shoved Nicholson. That means either a. O'Reilly did indeed do the deed or b. he needs to find a new producer.
Daniel,
Could you post that email? That would be AWESOME! Thanks!
I linked to it at the beginning of this thread, in the post that Daniel is referring to.
Calling someone a SOB is "getting physical" to you guys?
What a bunch of sissies.
No, but shoving a guy is and placing your hands on him:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/07/bill-oreilly-shoves-obamas-staffer-unhinged-the-full-video/
Is that physical?
Thank God for "those ever-persent blogs" Hello truth and good bye truthiness.
BillO says: "I actually spoke to Barack Obama. And the Secret Service guys let me right by, and we had a nice little chat, which you'll hear on the Factor Monday night."
This is redolent of Dallas in '63, when the S.S. agents were partying late the night before and were possibly hung over when Oswald finally won his merit badge in firearms. I wouldn't let BillO "right by" at a 4th of July picnic. This guy is a deranged lunatic. He should be locked up. What were they thinking?!
"He moved right in front of the cameraman again to block our shot. So I had to gently remove him from that position, Brian."
and
"No, no scuffle at all. I just removed him from in front of the camera."
Everyone has to remember the Bill-O never said he didn't push the staffer. He said he "gently removed him" with inplies some sort of force was involved. It was Brian Wilson who's down playing the physical force.
I bet on Monday Bill-O will try to play it off as the macho culture warrior who did what he needed to to get to the truth. A "no one gets in the way of the Factor" kind of BS. A major spin in the "No Spin Zone"
I feel bad for Sen Obama...he had to talk to Bill-O...I can't imagine the sort of pain that entails.
Well, it wasn't a "scuffle" and he wasn't "gently removed". In the words of John Madden, "BOOM!" and the "bodyguard" was gone, flying through the air, landing on his back, and sliding to a new "non-blocking" location nearly 20 feet away.
Putting your hand on someones arm and lightly applying pressure to indicate you would like him to move a little is hardly getting physical..
...unless you're a lefty sissy-boy.
The left just cannot stand the fact that O'Reilly justs whoops the pants off Chicken n' Waffles in the ratings..
...and they hate that Fox is really the most trusted name in news:
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/08/most-trusted-national-tv-news-organizations/
The latest poll that shows Fox is the most credible source of news also shows that only 4% think that MSNBC and Chicken N' Waffles have any credibility at all.
Watch the clip and tell me if you think he got physical or not. By the way, please explain your version of the chicken and waffles nickname for us.
I heard the Wilson interview with O'Reilly. I think what some (The Stranger) is missing is the pattern of instability in this man. during the interview, O'Reilly made sure he mentioned the guy was 6'8 and his tone was condenscending. The way he said "I gently moved him" is just so laughable. He wants to put this persona out that he and he alone is this tough man to be feared for his professional abilities as well as his physical abilities. Truth be told, the young man he "gently moved" would more than likely have hurt the old ego maniac in a real fight. So all in all, I would say O'Reilly went to New Hampshire looking to whore himself out for some media attention and he did just that. If you notice, he went to the Democratic frontrunners rallies in the same spirit he sends his minions to the homes of judges he disagrees with. You sure as hell did not see him at a Romney rally pulling this crap. He is going to spin this to make himself look like some tough guy who can and will make you do something if you don't comply.
Here is what should have happenned. The staffer should have nailed O'Reilly right on the tip of the chin when he grabbed his arm, knocking him dead out. O'Reilly could use a good heaping helping of humble pie.
AChris, if you go back and look at The Stranger's posts, he actually agrees that O'Reilly was in the wrong. He may not believe it, but that's what his posts say.
"It should be whoever wrote this lie. Video shows O'reilly was telling the truth."
Now does that mean O'Reilly was telling the truth about........well.....um.......anyway, I don't see how the stranger ever insinuated that O'Reilly's actions were wrong. Perhaps I am wrong, If so, please let me know what the stranger said to support your conclusion.
Dbeden is making a joke about the Stranger's misuse of the word "former." Also, the Stranger's video "proof" actually proves the opposite of what he claims it does. The video begings AFTER the scuffle, with a woman exclaiming, "Oh my god...O'Reilly is fighting."
I was more talking about his first post than anything...where he said:
"Is it O'Reilly or is it the lying, corrupt MSM and the lying left like Mendacious Morons for Asininity?
...hmmm...it sure looks like the former...again:"
Quite possible DBEDEN. I would submit that, based on the rest of Strangers posts on this topic, the "former" to him meant the media. He has seemingly defended O'Reilly incessantly here.
Anyway, I can't help but to wonder if your post was a joke or not, certaintly Clams cannot be wrong about something :)
yeah, it was a joke. That's why I said he "may not believe it, but that's what his posts say." I agree that Stranger doesn't actually agree with what he's actually saying, but with what he meant to say. Which is the opposite of what he said.
Sorry, I just think it's funny that you can put your foot in your mouth like he does and still expect people to take you seriously.
Huh? You're confused and can't follow the conversation, so you lash out at me for explaining it to you?
Jesus man, I too was joking. As far as following the conversation well, if we were conversing rather than corresponding....well you still would have no point. It was only playful attempt to poke at you a little considering our past disagreements. Lighten up, little camper.
The spin has already begun. I can't count how many times the "empty skirts" (whatever that means) at FOX have been lauding O"reilly's tough guy credentials. It sounds like this;"Ha-ha, you know what happens when you interfere with O'Reilly's shot!", like we're all under the impression that O'Reilly (because he calls chicks by their last names) is some irascible street fighter. I'm just glad that, from what I've seen, O'Reilly was just being obnoxious- his normal state. I'd hate to see my man Obama fall victim to one of those "Chelsea snubs 4th grade reporter- Is this the end of Hillary?"-type smears.
So last week I thought it wasn't such a big deal if Obama went on The Factor, and thought it might help him a little. After reading this, I realize I was wrong.
O'REILLY: - No, no scuffle at all. I just removed him from in front of the camera. - I Might have called him an SOB. - Sorry we had to have that little confrontation but no one on this earth is going to block a shot on The O'Reilly Factor! It is not going to happen!
Well Mr. O'Reilly... I've worked the rope lines for years including news stories on Presidents. I've never witnessed any person physically MOVED out of the way. You're Very Unprofessional!
Sometimes we had to move my cameras but "gently moving" any person was not one of our options. I've heard foul words spoken between camera people out there but no reporters were using S.O.B. with anyone. And nobody would ever MOVE anyone else out of the way. I've not heard of that happening before now.
I'm expecting tonight's Factor to have a large dose of dishonesty.
Brain-challenged Bill-O blusters and bumps, then bellows with a bunch of bull about his boisterous blatant bullying.
Belatedly, bill-odittoheads blather and bluster that bill is a choir boy, not a bonkers buffon.
Glad to hear from Julia that Bill-o's high horse is a belligerant Belgian.
Balderdash!
Mary, basically Billy bilged his big bad bucket of bile after the bemused behemoth didn't do Billy's bidding. Berated Billy boasts about brow beating said behemoth since Billy is bad to the bone.
After the bedlam, bellicose Billy then briefly beholds the beloved Barack. Billy then boards his belligerant Belgian and is now bedeviling and befogging his TV bedfellows.
Glad I wasn't drinking a soda while reading these, julia ;-)
OK Julia - I'll take a whack at this too...
Buttox face Bill-O behaves like a big bad bawdy Shi*t-Bird.
O'Reilly says he LOVES Obama! - SO...
I hereby dedicate this next song To: Bill-Oh from Oh-Bama
"ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT?"
Made Famous By Elvis Aaron Presley, known as "The King of Rock 'n' Roll", or simply "The King".
To Poor Bill-Oh! (Spoken)
I wonder if, Your lonesome tonight
You know someone said that
the worlds a stage - each must play a part
But you seemed to change-You acted strange
And why I've never known
Bill-Oh you lied, when you said you loved me
And I had no cause to doubt you
But I'd rather go on a-hearing your lies
And to go on living without you
Now the Stage is bare
And you're standing there-With emptiness all around
And If you can't get me on your show
Then they can bring the curtain down
(Sung) - Is your heart filled with Pain
Shall I come back again
Tell me Bill-Oh! - Are You Lonesome Tonight?
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Some Editing to fit the situation
Sam,
Thank you,
Thank you very much.
Thanks KING... and thanks for your posts too!
I would sing it on my WebSite but I just don't have the time. I don't watch the Factor but tonight my DVR is set to record it. I have to see for myself if he's the dishonest jerk he has proven to be so far.
PS...
Judging from you're post, maybe you should sing it!
You ain't never caught a rabbit, and you ain't no friend of mine.
Now, if you had caught a FOX ....
Yes King...
Many Hound Dogs will be on that FOX HUNT tonight!
I said King - I meant TEX...
Good One Tex!
You can bet that Bill's "Suspicious Mind" will be "All Shook Up" tonight.
The "KING"....
Was born on this day in the year 1935. He's still alive in spirit.
O'Reilly is a bum. I can't even stand to listen to him spew his hate anymore. He truly is out of touch.
Anyone else notice that O'Reilly never does anything? It's always his imaginary friend, "The Factor". Obama's body man wasn't trying to stop Bill O'Reilly from getting a shot, he was stopping the Factor. Bill O'Reilly was not saying he had every right to get a shot; the Factor had the right. I wonder if growing up, it was the Factor that accidentally broke Bill's mother's special vase. Not Bill certainly.
"Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary." —pg. 36, 1984. George Orwell.
Saw the tape, falafel boy is a liar. No surprise there, but remarkable spin when the liver-spotted bobblehead claimed his battery of the Obama aid was in the defense of the constitution. When is Roger Ailes going to take that drunken fool off the air?
Constitutional Rights!? NOT!
More like O'Riellys' Ego Maniac Rights to SPIN all things around O'Reilly. He thinks he is the story "For the whole world to see". In doing so he walked roughshod all over the Rules and the Constitutional Rights of the Obama Campaign. He broke the rules at the Obama event and broke all the rules of professional journalism too.
At these events, staffers instruct media where they are ALLOWED to set up cameras. Rope lines are for the public to get a chance to meet Obama. O'Reilly was breaking the rules so the staffer was correct to defend the rules.
O'Reilly says the staffer was trying to be a Far Left Hero. NOT! He was just doing his job because O'Reilly and his camera didn't belong there.
O'Reilly says the Secret Service was just monitoring the proceedings. NOT! They came over to monitor his Ranting, Raving, Name Calling and his Shoving of the Obama staffer. In the video, secret service had to physically push O'Reilly away.
O'Reilly, in his very unprofessional public display of himself... A very ugly ego maniac, now hides behind the 'Constitution' and 'The Factor' as his excuse to abuse other peoples constitutional rights.
There should be some legal journalistic standards today for getting Media Credentials. O'Reilly would fall way short of any of those requirements.
bill o'reilly should have been arrested for disturbing the peace, he intently went there to start a confrontation. he's is a dishonest person and a bullish.
I recall Bush closing ALL of his campaign events, including the media that he considered not Bush friendly.
I have two things to say
1. Philib and The Stranger have shown an interesting ability to view material and not see what most others see. Either that or they're just liars.
2. Had this been a certain black candidate, a certain female candidate, an anchor from CNN, NBC or the millions of others O'rally has a vendetta against, who gently pushed O'rally out of the way, the clown would've had a fit. They'd be labeled thugs and the media would have echoed that sentiment. It's all tongue in cheek because it's O'rally.
So true. O'Lielly would have played victim to the hilt had someone else perpetrated the shoving and name calling.