On Fox News' The Live Desk, GOP strategist called Obama "anti-American"
SUMMARY: On Fox News' The Live Desk, Republican strategist Christine O'Donnell responded to host Martha MacCallum's question about whether Republicans would prefer to run against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton or Sen. Barack Obama by asserting, "I would prefer Barack Obama because he is so liberal, that -- he's anti-American."
On the January 7 edition of Fox News' The Live Desk, host Martha MacCallum asked Republican strategist Christine O'Donnell, "Who do Republicans want to run against? [Sen.] Barack Obama [D-IL] or [Sen.] Hillary Clinton [D-NY]?" O'Donnell replied, "I would say Barack Obama, because he is so liberal that -- he's anti-American." In response, Democratic strategist Jane Fleming asked, "Anti-American?" O'Donnell replied: "He's beating the change drum, but let's look at the change. He did not vote for English as the official language. What does that say?" O'Donnell later added: "And then they sit there and say, 'Oh, but I'm for English as the national language,' because there's a legal difference. And the difference is English as the official language would, you know, not allow bilingual ballots."
From the January 7 edition of Fox News' The Live Desk:
MacCALLUM: Now, I would point out you didn't see a whole lot of editorial pages -- conservative editorial pages -- really paying too much attention to Barack Obama until recently. So let me get Christine O'Donnell's thoughts on this. Who do Republicans want to run against? Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton?
O'DONNELL: I would prefer Barack Obama because he is so liberal, that -- he's anti-American. Let me tell you a couple of --
FLEMING: Anti-American?
O'DONNELL: Let me explain why. He's beating the change drum, but let's look at the change. He did not vote for English as the official language. What does that say? Then you hear them say, "I'm for" --
FLEMING: What are you talking about? Are you talking about the immigration debate? Because --
O'DONNELL: No, I'm --
FLEMING: -- if you're talking about that, there was a lot in there.
O'DONNELL: His voting record. His voting record. And then they sit there and say, "Oh, but I'm for English as the national language," because there's a legal difference. And the difference is English as the official language would, you know, not allow bilingual ballots and --
MacCALLUM: All right, well, back to my question. Just in terms of, you know, who they can beat, you think Obama is easier to beat.
O'DONNELL: Absolutely.
MacCALLUM: Jane, who do you think?
FLEMING: There's no way that they can beat Obama, and there's -- it's a rare chance that you guys are going to beat Clinton as well. All the national polls say we beat you guys. Democrats are fired up. We outperformed you guys 2-to-1 in Iowa, we're going to outperform you in New Hampshire. Democrats are going to win this. I don't care if it's Edwards, Obama, or Clinton.
And I say that Christine O'Donnell is anti-American, because morons like her only want their narrow-minded viewpoints expressed.
Maybe O'Donnell would be happier living where only government-sanctioned speech is permitted - like North Korea.....
You know...... it's funny,
Just tonight I watched a History Channel special on the KKK - White Power gangs, or as I call them "the slimy scumy garbage of our society" and about the dangers they pose to themselves and society as a whole,
Anyways, one of the things that the 'leader' said was that they had 'followers' everywhere........
I'm beginning to believe that 'everywhere' might very well, partially be some of these paid analysts on FOX and other of the corporate media cabal?
How better to spread the hate than overt racism in front of a camera and 2 million viewers?
Perhaps there are one or two that come in here and show off their true colors by what they write in their posts.... whatever,
People like that are slimy scum and perhaps a bigger danger to our society than even Al Qeada might be?
I watched the same History Channel show and couldn’t agree with your more. We should be every bit as concerned about organizations from within our own borders as terrorists from faraway lands – Timothy McVeigh proved that years ago.
I’m sure there is a certain segment of American voters who will be intimidated by the possibility of increased activity of the White Supremist movement should Obama be elected - and reluctant to vote for him simply for this reason alone. This is why you are going to see more and more of this far right rhetoric inching its way into MSM.
Just like surrendering our privacy rights and other such freedoms emboldens Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists, voting actions based on fear are simply “giving in” to White Supremist terrorists. It is only in this sense that I can agree with an attitude projected by GW Bush - and I say, “Bring it on”. The sooner we expose the prevalence of these groups and deal with them as the anti-American hate-mongering cowards that they are, the sooner the country will rise above racism once and for all - united as a whole nation in the real “war on terror” and against everything they stand for.
I hope that when this election cycle is over the country realizes that Fox News is un-American.
What right do any of these idiots at Fox have to judge someone else's patriotism?
I hope that when this election cycle is over the country realizes that Fox News is un-American.
It would serve Faux News right if the first thing President Obama did after taking office was sign an Executive Order reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine.
"...Fox News is un-American".
Now that's hardly fair, don't you think? As our prophetic leader Mr. Bush has shown us with his wiretapping, one's actions are only un-american until you get the rules changed. Fox is acting in a manner that's not un-American, merely pre-emptive to the rule-change.
Mr. dearLeader Bush has shown us the correct way to wear a flag pin, as well as place his hand over his stomach when flag saluting and anthem mumbling. Lest we forget, 9/11...skwak!
Fox is in serious trouble. They're own will soon eat them. They're quickly losing independents and moderate Republicans who are finally admitting they've been hoodwinked. Watching O'Lielly beg to be acknowledged by Obama was priceless. "Please come on my show Senator . . . We really like you." If any other legitimate news anchor or commentator made a similar plea they would be pilloried for bias. Aren't they supposed to be neutral? Expect Murdoch to make a major changes in the not too distant future.
Sorry . . . meant "their own will soon eat them" . . . my glee got the better of me. hehe
Fox News commentators, guests, and pundits are not unbiased or neutral. It's not their job - that falls to their anchors and reporters.
I totally disagree with you on this Tommy. Their pundits should be providing neutral analysis as opposed to partisan analysis. Bill Kristol was fired by ABC back in the nineties, while George Will was retained. Of the two, I believe Will is a more an honest pundit although he's a self identified Republican, as are Gergen, Broeder, Russert and many other pundits. Ever wonder why they're not featured here as often? (I know they've been mentioned before but no where near as often as the Fixed News clowns). Big difference between consdervative analysis and rank propaganda and misinformation.
Their news isnt unbiased either the few times I have seen Fox news I have seen with my own eyes them editorialize and inject their bias.
Fox has anchors and reporters? Funniest post ever, Tommy !
TOMMY SAYS:
"Fox News commentators, guests, and pundits are not unbiased or neutral. It's not their job ..."
RESPONSE: We agree. "Guests" are brought on precisely because they will express their opinion and point of view. How "balanced" such points of view ARE (offset by equal time from alternative viewpoints), determines the bias of the media outlet as a whole: FOX is empirically proven to be radically rightwing.
TOMMY continues that being "unbiased" and "neutral" ... "-- that falls to their anchors and reporters."
RESPONSE: True that anchors and reporters are SUPPOSED to be unbiased and neutral, per the ethics of good journalism.
ARE FOX's anchors and reporters unbiased and neutral? They are NOT. They are as biased and partisan as the guests. FOX is a purely rightwing media entity, top to bottom, and the propaganda arm of the RNC.
If TOMMY is claiming FOX's anchors and reporters ARE NOT biased, it would fall to Tommy to NAME THEM. There isn't a one that hasn't been caught spewing bias and rightwing talking points/narratives and using rightwing false premises. THAT ... is their "job" ... as defined by Murdoch and Ailes.
I still remember being amazed watching a supposed journalist (john gibson) interviewing a democratic politician. He was so obviously hostile, and began sort of debating the person instead of just asking loaded questions like "why do you democrats hate America."
I blinked and realized that Faux News was anything but...
Mary,
And that is exactly one of many examples as to why many Dems will ever (like Barack Obama?) waste their time on a propaganda machine like FOX.......
Tex, I specifically said it is an anchors and a reporters JOB to be unbiased. Guests, pundits and commentators, such as O'Reilly/Hannity/Colmes, are not.
Tommy, I agree. But the incident I cited above involved a news anchor (Gibson); he wasn't acting as a commentator. This was 3 years ago, and I've seen this since a number of times from Faux News.
...and so it begins.
They don't have any right. Unfortunatly they do have a bully pulpit. I do think that the Emperors lack of clothing is beginning to register with at least a third of the population. We will probably see alot of shark jumping over the next year.Will it be enough to drop the scales from the eyes of Mr.50% Average?
I'm betting yes, but like "some" here I'm an optimist.
This GOP strategist is way out of line calling Obama "anti-American", no matter what his ideology is. How ridiculous. If this is how the GOP plans to win in November, they deserve to get slaughtered.
Since when is being "American" being unwilling to consider other ideas?
Since when is being "American" being unwilling to recognize other religions?
Since when is being "American" being unbending and valuing party over country?
he might not be un-american, but he could try putting his hand on his heart during the national anthem.
Paleo,
Does conduct during the National Anthem inform you of a candidate's policy ideas? Please, please, please tell me you don't weigh someone's loyalty to their country based on this.
You mean like this?
[link to www.jonco48.com]
First women got the vote, then the civil rights acts and school integration. This potential shattering of the old, fat, white male glass cieling has got these closet racists scared to death.
OMG, here it comes.
When Republicans think that they might lose, they get scared, and when they get scared, they get nasty. They had their game plan all laid out. Remind Americans about Hillary's Health-care reform failures and a few reminders about Bill and Monica and wham, they retain power and control.
Now here comes Obama. He black but they can't stereotype him like Jessie or Al, he appeals to ALL Americans. He graduated Harvard Law School and was the first African-American President of the Harvard Law Review, so he's not stupid. He's married to a black woman so no 'Harold Ford Jr. ads' will work.
So what's left. He can't be 'American' because of his name, his father, where he went to elementary school, he doesn't wear a 'flag' pin and he did not put his hand on his heart. I almost forgot, that he like many when they were younger, experimented with drugs. Oh and because he's black and experimented with drugs, he must have sold them as well. Did I leave anything out?
GOP = Pathetic
Damn Pearlene! You go girl! You've got some solid insight there. You and Preston need your own show. That would be a hoot. MMFA
Thanks, Krome, I'm a fan of yours as well. No words can describe Pearl; she already knows she's the bomb! lol. She often slay 'em like no other -- so does my gurl Lynn. Both tend to have that fiery spunk you see in Michelle Obama. Don't mess with no sisthas and get them angry!
I'm still a bit disappointed that I'm not the only black liberal queer here at MMFA. ;) I tried to reply to HBL's comments on the other thread but it was closed-off by the time I came back today. Anyway, it's good to know I'm not alone here. :)
Never let them know where our true power lies Preston. It's a matter of time before we get accused being part of a vast left-wing black gay conspiracy. ; > )
Krome & Preston, thank you both for the kind words.
There was a time in this country when speaking your mind would have gotten you killed. Silence is not an option for me.
At what time in our history would that have happenned?
try from the 1st pilgrims to the 1960's. Between the salem witch trials, slavery and the assasination of Martin Luther King. Those times...
What Snoopy said. And Pearline is a 73 year old black woman; no doubt speaking her mind in her youth was dangerous.
At what time in our history would that have happenned?
Chris, I was born in 1934, do you really need me to answer that?
Damn Pearlene! You go girl! You've got some solid insight there. You and Preston need your own show. That would be a hoot. MMFA please
He shoulda been more like GW. Someone please, repost that picture of GW putting his hand on his dick during the anthem!
"Please take note" is what I intended to say.
She must be confused with our anti-American president, bush.
What does it say about our country when a pundit on national television can openly and expressly call the current front runner for POTUS "anti-American"?
Not that it's surprising, it's just sad. Sadder still is that this is just the beginning -wait 'til the psychotic rantings of the freepers and their ilk that "Obama is a planted muslim spy" become mainstream. Don't think it'll happen? Wait.
I think that a lot of the MMFA "regulars" seem to forget that this is the "big leagues" in politics. Obama expects to get called names. And I can tell you one thing right now - he isn't going to blubber and cry like some other politicians (you KNOW who I mean!). Obama is just going to win!
Sure I do you must mean Boehner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhglL8_EnSc
LOL! Great comeback, Solon.
When I first started watching that video I thought he was drunk.
You're hoping for a Dean moment then NAC?
Mitt has shown a few tears in the campaign also, but those were honest republican tears, so its ok.
Yeah, funny how the rightys will jump on a Democratic woman for being almost as emotional as your average Republicken "man".
The Democrats have a dilemma in this regard. The Republicans Party, as the party of Whites in the main, especially WASPs, is the party of the majority ethnic group. So it follows that it’s not logical to ever label them as anti-American as they form the biggest block within the country. They can’t be against America because they are America, is the thinking.
To illustrate, let’s say a cult called the ‘Tusks’, decided collectively to commit group suicide. They couldn’t truthfully be described as having done so because they were anti-Tusk because they did what they thought at the time was best for themselves --- it was a collective decision and not coerced. The rub in the real world of American politics is that what one political party manages to get done governmentally equally effects the other party. Therefore, if that cult, the Tusks, took hostages and killed them as well, the analogy would more apt. The Democratic Party would be the hostages when the GOP calls the shots, and vice versa for when the Democrats are in charge.
The GOP is anti-American in the sense of being anti-USA as far as being internationalist. They wish to continue expending enormous resources policing the world largely for the benefit of other countries, big business generally, and for the sense of control and mastery on the psychological level. The GOP also wants to maximize international trade even at the expense of vulnerable American industries and labor. The Democrats, on the other hand, want to bring the military home (I hope, and I hope not just from Iraq but all around the world) to reduce the debt to ward off economic disaster while also addressing the trade deficit.
So you have one party which is actually anti-American (GOP), but because they are primarily the party of the dominant group socially, they can’t be easily attacked politically for it---they have an immunity. The other party (Dems) is much more pro-American in fact. But because their party is more heterogeneous, composed of various groups which are considered non-real Americans, they are open to political attack from the dominant ethnic group as being anti-American for not being as interested in devoting resources to defending against external threats such as terrorism and conventional military attacks, immigration control, etc. (as opposed to internal economic ones).
In the last sentence of the last paragraph I should have said that the Dems are open to attack from the party of the dominant ethnic group.
Bush has put the Republican party into such a hole that if the Democrats nominated a hamster IT would beat anyone the Republicans could put forward.
Never underestimate the power lust of the slime buckets in the Repub party. That hamster, for example, will have crawled into many dark holes once the Rovian spin boys start working on it. The same will go for any Dem candidate.
My guess is that "strategist" is a euphemism for "liar".
There is only two decent republicans on the ballot; Ron Paul and that Hucabee dude. Ron Paul is actually thinking about helping the country instead of helping his friends in big business expand their opportunities to greater defamation of the American Dollar. Hucabee, you can't trust him, he used to be a god damn baptist minister. Thats the last person we need in control of this country.
Sorry, Woozy, but NONE of them are 'decent'.
"He did not vote for English as the official language. What does that say?"
Hmm, maybe that being American isn't all about speaking English. After all, English is the language of our former oppressors, so I'm not sure why people put such an emphasis on it.
I don't expect Christine to get that, though, she's only repeating a script of party line talking points. I take encouragement in this, it's obvious Obama has them scared spitless.
I agree with that - Obama scares them. But Hillary also must be scaring them too after last night.
Here's an unbeatable ticket IMO: Obama-Clinton (my personal pick) or Clinton-Obama (still dyn-o-mite). Now who in the hell will the Repubs offer that can beat that?
Fleming is right... the Right will lose in November if this is how they are going to run their show. The desperation levels are beginning to rise and the Nutcase Talker Squad has ants in the pants as a result. Rush - frustrated out of his hollow mind over Huck's win in IA and the inevitable 'crash and burn' of Reagan, The Sequel... aka Fred Thompson. Levin - giving bogus 'advice' to Hillary... Earth to Mark, Earth to Mark... nobody in Hillary's camp, or anyone on the Left for that matter, gives a flying #### what you think and say so shove it as far as it can go, O Detestable One. And Sean Insanity... well, bet his belly is full of tasty crow now, along with all the other morons in 'the biz' who thought that Hillary would go down in flames this early.
Y'know, this is getting to be fun. And I am to the point where I really don't give a damn about who ends up with the Dem nomination. Whoever it is will win in November. The Right and their sorry cast of candidates will fight it out big time this spring and summer - did you hear that, O Detestable One? No, it is not the 'libs' who will be engaged in a long drawn-out bloody battle - it is YOU and YOUR side who will be engaged in the bloody war because YOUR side doesn't have a clear winner AND, much to your chagrin I bet, NONE of them, save Comatose Freddy, are 'true conservatives'.
So bring it on, fools, bring it on. Go ahead and trash Hillary and Obama all you want. Trot out the 'Obama is/was a Muslim' garbage and the 'Hillary should be wearing orange BS'. Come on, do it. Trust me, we will not be fooled again with the BS. not this time.
This is getting to be DEElicious.