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Kurtz misrepresented Obama's 2004 remark on Iraq war stance

January 14, 2008 1:49 pm ET
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SUMMARY: On Reliable Sources, Howard Kurtz claimed that in a 2004 Chicago Tribune article, Sen. Barack Obama "said there wasn't much difference between his position and George Bush's position on the [Iraq] war." But Kurtz left out three key words from Obama's quote in the Tribune -- "at this stage" -- as well as the context of the remarks, both of which indicate that Obama was discussing how best to stabilize Iraq from mid-2004 onward, not claiming agreement with Bush on the war itself.

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On the January 13 edition of CNN's Reliable Sources, host and Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz claimed that in a 2004 Chicago Tribune article, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) "said there wasn't much difference between his position and George Bush's position on the [Iraq] war." But Kurtz left out three key words from Obama's quote in the Tribune -- "at this stage" -- as well as the context of his remarks provided in the Tribune article, both of which indicate that Obama was discussing how best to stabilize Iraq from mid-2004 onward. Obama was not, as Kurtz suggested, asserting agreement with Bush on the war itself. The July 27, 2004, Tribune article quoted Obama as saying: "There's not that much difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage" [emphasis added]. The article went on to note that Obama "opposed the Iraq invasion before the war. But he now believes U.S. forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation -- a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration."

From the July 27, 2004, Chicago Tribune article:

Barack Obama, who will deliver the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention, said Monday that he believes the Iraq war will be the deciding factor in the presidential contest, but that he does not think there is a great difference "on paper" between presumptive Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry and President Bush on the issue.

Instead, Obama, the U.S. Senate candidate from Illinois, said he believes the Bush administration has lost too much credibility in the world community to administer the policies necessary to stabilize Iraq.

"On Iraq, on paper, there's not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago," Obama said during a luncheon meeting with editors and reporters of Tribune newspapers. "There's not that much difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage. The difference, in my mind, is who's in a position to execute."

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Obama, a state senator from Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, opposed the Iraq invasion before the war. But he now believes U.S. forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation -- a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration.

The problem, Obama said, is the low regard for Bush in the international community.

"How do you stabilize a country that is made up of three different religious and in some cases ethnic groups, with minimal loss of life and minimum burden to the taxpayers?" Obama said. "I am skeptical that the Bush administration, given baggage from the past three years, not just on Iraq. ... I don't see them having the credibility to be able to execute. I mean, you have to have a new administration to execute what the Bush administration acknowledges has to happen."

From the January 13 edition of CNN's Reliable Sources:

KURTZ: So, does Clinton have a point about the Obama coverage?

Joining us now to talk about the media and the campaign, and pundits behaving badly, in Springfield, Massachusetts, Rachel Maddow, who hosts The Rachel Maddow Show on Air America Radio. And in Seattle, Michael Medved, host of The Michael Medved Show on the Salem Radio Network.

Michael Medved, what about Bill Clinton's point that the press hasn't really scrutinized Obama's record on Iraq or, some would say, on much of anything else?

MEDVED: Well, I think that's probably a valid point, because Obama has been such an, quote, "exotic new face," fresh. And I remember when Joe Biden said that he was clean and articulate. People don't really know what to make of him entirely, and then there was that whole rock star factor that you were talking about before.

But frankly, I truly don't know if the Clinton campaign should welcome the idea of going back and looking at people's positions on the war in the past, because however ambiguous Obama's position has been -- and it has been -- it was not in favor of the war as Hillary Clinton's was. So, if you're going to argue about who was against the war first and how much were they against the war, this is something that actually hurts Democrats, both Obama and Clinton.

KURTZ: Just to provide some context, Rachel Maddow, the former president referring to two interviews that Obama gave in 2004. One, he told The New York Times he didn't think the case for war had been made, but he didn't know how he would have voted had he had access to classified information at the time, because he was not in the United States Senate. And one with the Chicago Tribune which he said there wasn't much difference between his position and George Bush's position on the war.

Now, the press has covered this a bit, but, you know, about 1,000th of the attention devoted to Hillary choking up.

MADDOW: It's true, they haven't covered this as much. But also consider the context that I think Barack Obama's appeal, certainly his bipartisan appeal, his sort of general election appeal that he's been making, is not necessarily fundamentally about his record. I mean, he hasn't been in public office that long. He's not necessarily running on his record.

He's running on -- trying to make the case that he represents a clean break from the politics of the past. That's the contrast that he's tried to set up, in terms of his campaign: that he's not Hillary Clinton, that he doesn't represent the past, he doesn't represent the battles of the '90s. And so, because he hasn't necessarily been running so much on his record, I think that in part explains why that hasn't been the grounds on which he's been covered.

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    • Author by wzwriter (January 14, 2008 2:01 pm ET)
         
      Maybe they should change the name of this show to "Unreliable Source".....
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    • Author by clams casino (January 14, 2008 2:05 pm ET)
         

      So Kurtz asks if Obama's record on Iraq has been scrutinized enough and Medved immediately throws out a couple racist non sequiturs?

      "Well, I think that's probably a valid point, because Obama has been such an, quote, 'exotic new face,' fresh. And I remember when Joe Biden said that he was clean and articulate."

       First of all, who is he quoting when he decides to call Obama "exotic"? And what's the point of him "remember[ing]" Biden's moronic comments?

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 14, 2008 4:07 pm ET)
           
        Medved has no credibility. He's a failed movie reviewer. nuff said.

        But why is he on TV?
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    • Author by conleytgwinn (January 14, 2008 2:06 pm ET)
         
      We already had Ray-Gun, with sunrises, and Bungle, the "compassionate conservative", "uniter not a divider". Let's - PLEASE - not seek refuge once more in feeling good, without even admitting the problems as displayed over the past 27 years. The Corporations and the Corporate Aristocrats have eaten the nation's lunch, and won't even admit that John Edwards is running for President (except to denigrate his as an "angry" campaign), for fear that someone might become angry at the abuses inflicted upon us.
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      • Author by tommy (January 14, 2008 2:11 pm ET)
           
        something about sunrises and the nation's lunch?...........huh?
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        • Author by dbeden4153 (January 14, 2008 2:32 pm ET)
             
          I'm not sure about the sunrises thing, but the "nation's lunch" I interpreted to mean being a bully. As in, they took our lunch and ate it, like a bully would do.
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        • Author by solon (January 14, 2008 2:38 pm ET)
             
          You dont remember the inane its morning in American ad? The sunrise in it along with a total lack of actually saying ANYTHING other than emotionally charged vapid phrases? I think that is what he was talking about.
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          • Author by dbeden4153 (January 14, 2008 2:59 pm ET)
               
            That went over my head...but that may be because I wasn't alive when Reagan won ;)
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            • Author by wzwriter (January 14, 2008 3:10 pm ET)
                 
              That went over my head...but that may be because I wasn't alive when Reagan won ;)

              That's OK - Reagan was barely alive during most of his presidency.
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          • Author by conleytgwinn (January 14, 2008 3:05 pm ET)
               
            A test to identify those with . . . ummm . . . "time on the job". Thanks for clarifying what my ancient mind took to be self-evident, but which did require more years than some would bring to the task.
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        • Author by conleytgwinn (January 14, 2008 4:10 pm ET)
             
          At least no jab at the Corporate Media, though; so, even if incomprehensible to you, this has gotta be progress

          !
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    • Author by jeter2 (January 14, 2008 2:06 pm ET)
         

      When are you guys gonna correct the Reply To Post feature??? Sorry but I'm spoiled now, as I'm sure everyone else is ;-)

      Now on topic: I think it's shows the media is being fair & balanced by finally distorting Obama like they have Hillary ;-)

      Of course I'm being sarcastic here...figured I'd better tell ya before someone has a hissy fit!!

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      • Author by wzwriter (January 14, 2008 2:09 pm ET)
           
        When are you guys gonna correct the Reply To Post feature???

        It HAS helped us brush up on our HTML skills....
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      • Author by snoopy (January 14, 2008 3:41 pm ET)
           
        So J, why doesn't Kurtz comment on Larry Craig's stance on the Iraq war? Was it because he's too wide off mark or is it because his surge is stalled? ;)
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    • Author by anotheramerican (January 14, 2008 2:39 pm ET)
         
      I don't think there's much difference between Kurtz's quoting Obama and Obama's original quote at this stage of the election. :-)
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      • Author by conleytgwinn (January 14, 2008 3:07 pm ET)
           
        Problem lies in the fact that Kurtz didn't exactly quote Obama fully. Just the same elision that we would criticize from, say, Matthews? Something about truncation, if I ramember.
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    • Author by juliajayne (January 14, 2008 7:11 pm ET)
         
      I started an alliteration about horrible Howie but, I didn't have the heart to hone it. But I see there is a nice new Mikey Savage thread (drooling).
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