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With women, Matthews administers the "Chris Matthews test"

January 17, 2008 9:48 am ET

SUMMARY: A Media Matters for America review of MSNBC host Chris Matthews' commentary has found a history of degrading comments about women, in which he focuses on the physical appearances of his female guests and other women discussed on his show.

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As Media Matters for America has extensively documented, MSNBC host Chris Matthews has a history of making degrading comments about women, particularly Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY). A Media Matters review of Matthews' MSNBC commentary found that, in particular, Matthews frequently comments on the physical appearances of his female guests and of other women discussed on his program. Matthews' comments are not restricted to female politicians or public officials; he runs the gamut, commenting on the appearance of female models, actors, journalists, authors, and others.

Female guests

  • While interviewing Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate and former Sen. John Edwards (NC), during the January 4, 2008, edition of Hardball, Matthews said to Edwards: "You've got a great face, Elizabeth. I love your smile ... I'm sorry. I don't want to patronize you. You're great."
  • On the September 12, 2007, edition of Hardball, Matthews began an interview with right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham by stating: "You are -- I'm not allowed to say this, but I'll say it -- you're beautiful and you're smart. And you've got a huge radio audience." When the interview ended, Matthews asked: "Can I sing your praises?" adding, "I get in trouble for this, but you're great looking, obviously. You're one of the gods' gifts to men in this country. But also, you are a hell of a writer."
  • On the August 10, 2007, edition of Hardball, during a discussion of financial news, Matthews told CNBC's Erin Burnett, "[Y]ou're beautiful," and "[y]ou're a knockout," before closing the interview by saying, "It's all right getting bad news from you." Matthews also asked Burnett: "Could you get a little closer to the camera?" Burnett replied, "My -- what is it?" Matthews then said: "Come on in closer. No, come in -- come in further -- come in closer. Really close." After Burnett began to comply, Matthews stated, "Just kidding! You look great! Anyway, thanks, Erin, it's great to -- look at that look. You're great." As Media Matters has noted, following the Burnett incident, according to a "Page Six" article in the New York Post, Matthews "told Page Six he was only fooling around with Burnett because the camera lens had already made her appear closer than usual. 'It was this weird fishbowl look. ... I was just kidding around.' "
  • As the Daily Howler blog noted following the Burnett incident, "[T]his very same sort of thing occurred on a Friday afternoon in late March," also during Hardball. According to Daily Howler, "[A]fter CNBC's Margaret Brennan delivered a financial update, Matthews blurted out praise for her youthful beauty, as he would later do with Burnett." From the Daily Howler:

MATTHEWS (3/23/07): OK, it's Friday afternoon, OK? But I have watched that economic bulletin there. But let me just tell you -- the next time the producer has to choose between a picture of more of Margaret Brennan and that oil derrick, that offshore oil derrick, stay on Margaret Brennan, OK?

(GROUP LAUGHTER -- ALL MEN)

MATTHEWS: She's a beautiful woman. She's a very bright reporter. She makes us feel good. I am sick of looking at that offshore oil drill. It drives me crazy. Bring back Margaret! Thank you, dear! Thank you! Back by popular demand! Happy Friday! And she's 6 feet tall, besides. You're gorgeous, and I hate that oil drill. I hate the oil drill. Do you want to comment on that?

BRENNAN: More of the oil boards? Hey, well, you know, sure. More air time -- I'm not going to complain about. But I'd love to be more on your show there, Chris.

MATTHEWS: OK. Thank you, dear. You are on right now. Thanks for the -- held over by popular demand, dear. Thank you. Happy Friday. Anyway, Mike Barnicle, that was a -- that was -- I'd rather see her than you guys, anyway. Thank you. Mike Barnicle's coming on right now, and Ron Christie. [emphases in original]

  • On the July 24, 2007, edition of Hardball, Matthews hosted Amber Lee Ettinger, Taryn Southern, and Adolina Kristina, stars of the online videos "I Got a Crush ... on Obama," "Hott 4 Hill," and "I Got a Crush ... on Giuliani," respectively. Matthews opened the interview by describing Ettinger, Southern, and Kristina as "these gorgeous creatures of god." During the discussion, Matthews said to Southern: "You're giving me the peepers. I can tell ...You are doing it. You are flashing your incredible eyebrows at me. Look at that. It's awful what you're doing." Matthews described each of the women as "great looking," and later said to Ettinger: "[B]e careful with the advances you are making with your eyes right now. I'm not a casting agent." Southern had previously been a guest on the July 16 edition of Hardball, where Matthews described her as a "cutie-pie."
  • During MSNBC's April 26, 2007, coverage of the first Democratic presidential candidates debate, Matthews discussed the "cosmetics" of the evening. In doing so, he commented on the appearances of Clinton and Michelle Obama, complimenting her pearl necklace and declaring that she "looked perfect," "well-turned out ... attractive -- classy, as we used to say. Like Frank Sinatra, 'classy.' " Matthews said: "Some people are, by the way, just watching tonight. They stopped listening a half-hour in, and they noticed how pretty she is -- Michelle -- and they said, 'I like the fact he's [Obama] got this pretty wife. He's happily married. I like that.' They like the fact that Hillary was demure, lady-like in her appearance." When NBC chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell interjected, noting, "You're talking about two ... lawyers," who went to "Harvard and Yale," Matthews responded, "Cosmetics are a part of this game."
  • During the February 1, 2007, edition of Hardball, while interviewing Lisa Caputo, Citigroup chief marketing officer and press secretary to then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, Matthews concluded the interview by stating: "You are looking great, by the way ... And I just came from the Miss America contest [where Matthews was a judge]. And you're -- you are up there."
  • On the April 15, 2005, edition of Hardball, Matthews interviewed actor and activist Jane Fonda about her book, My Life So Far (Random House, 2005). During the discussion, Matthews referenced an interview Fonda once did with former CBS News anchor Edward R. Murrow and stated: "Now, I remember you being interviewed by Edward R. Murrow, OK? That's all. You were in an apartment in New York. You looked like a million bucks. You still do." Concluding the interview, Matthews told Fonda: "And you also dazzle us with your ... beauty and all the good things."
  • During the May 21, 2004, edition of Hardball, Matthews hosted Janet Langhart Cohen, wife of former Defense Secretary William Cohen. During the interview, Matthews said to Cohen: "Well, you're a very attractive woman, obviously. And you're very successful and you're well married and all those good things."
  • During an August 2, 1999, interview with Gennifer Flowers, Matthews stated to Flowers: "I gotta pay a little tribute here. You're a very beautiful woman, and I -- and I have to tell you, he knows that, you know that, and everybody watching knows that; Hillary Clinton knows that. How can a woman put up with a relationship between her husband and somebody, anybody, but especially somebody like you that's a knockout? I don't quite get this relationship." After Flowers replied, "Gosh, you make me blush here," Matthews added: "[I]t's an objective statement, Gennifer. I'm not flirting."

Female non-guests

  • During a March 31, 2004, Hardball discussion with former White House anti-terror adviser Richard Clarke of then-national security adviser and current Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Matthews stated that Rice is a "very attractive woman, very likable woman, almost, if she weren't so smart, Miss Congeniality."
  • On the June 9, 2006, edition of Hardball, Matthews asked guests Tucker Carlson (host of MSNBC's Tucker), Rita Cosby (a then-MSNBC host and reporter) and commentator Mike Barnicle, unprompted, if they found conservative commentator Ann Coulter "physically attractive." After the guests refused to answer, Matthews claimed Coulter "doesn't pass the Chris Matthews test."
  • During a November 14, 2000, Hardball discussion of the 2000 Florida presidential election recount, Matthews described then-Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris to former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-WY) as "that very attractive woman we've been watching the last couple days."
  • On the February 9, 2001, broadcast of Hardball, Matthews discussed the controversy over former President Bill Clinton's pardon of financier Marc Rich and remarked that his wife, Denise Rich, is a "very attractive, wealthy woman." After USA Today reporter Tom Squitieri stated that "it'll be interesting to see what happens if [Congress] grant[s] immunity to Denise Rich. You know, they tried that once before with Susan McDougal, you know, giving her immunity from testifying," Matthews asked if Squitieri is "focused once again on the prospect of another one of those sexy perp walks ... by seeing great-looking woman in shackles."
  • On the January 19, 2001, edition of Hardball, during President Bush's inauguration ceremonies, Matthews commented that "for a straight arrow crowd of sort of purities, I've never seen so many sexy babes on the stage over at the Lincoln memorial here." Matthews continued that "I don't know even know them, who they are, but they're unbelievable."
  • On both the August 30, 2004, and May 31, 2001, editions of Hardball, Matthews commented on the physical appearances of Jenna and Barbara Bush, President Bush's twin daughters, by stating that they are "very attractive." Also, on the November 1, 2004, edition of Hardball, Matthews asked an unidentified male student, and self-described "journalist" with the "Scholastic Kids Press Corps," "[W]hat do you think of [the Bush twins] sort of in terms of boy-girl stuff?" After he appeared to hesitate, Matthews continued: "Would you put them high on the girl ticket if you were a boy?"
  • As Daily Howler editor Bob Somerby noted, on the November 4, 1999, edition of Hardball, then on CNBC, Matthews discussed feminist author Naomi Wolf's purported role in Vice President Al Gore's presidential campaign, and referred to Wolf as "that woman with all the hair." Matthews' guest, actress Morgan Fairchild, responded: "Well now, I don't want to hear anything about big hair. Come on."

From the March 31, 2004, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Is this going to end up being one of those -- you say the glass was half empty, then she says the glass was half full. And this becomes a moot point and two weeks after front page pictures of her in the major news magazines, her this very attractive woman, very likable woman, almost, if she weren't so smart, Miss Congeniality.

She -- you can't win that argument, can you if it becomes half full-half empty? Because she can always say, "Hey, look, if I was at meetings that Richard wasn't at. So many times I was with the president he was not there. I can tell you what he can't tell you; I can win the argument."

CLARKE: I don't think it's about winning the argument.

From the June 9, 2006, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Do you find her [Ann Coulter] physically attractive, Tucker?

CARLSON: I'm not going to answer that, because the answer -- I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. That's not the point.

MATTHEWS: Positively.

COSBY: Don't ask me that question.

MATTHEWS: Mike, do you want to weigh in here as an older fellow. Do you find her to be a physically attractive woman?

BARNICLE: I'm too old to be doing that. I had enough fights in my life.

MATTHEWS: OK, Rita, do you find her to be a physically attractive woman?

COSBY: I`ll throw it back to you, Chris. Do you find her attractive?

MATTHEWS: You guys are all afraid to answer. No, I find her -- I wouldn`t put her -- well, she doesn`t pass the Chris Matthews test.

I'll be right back with much more. You're watching "Hardball Hotshots," only on Hardball, only on MSNBC.

From the February 9, 2001, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

STUART TAYLOR (National Journal writer and columnist): I don't know enough about Denise Rich. She's apparently a well-connected Democrat and likes being in power circles. Maybe she gets a lot of her money from her husband, I just don't know that. In Bill Clinton's case, I think the motive is probably -- it may have some combination of gratify a campaign contributor, especially gratify a future contributor, perhaps, to the Clinton Library. We've been seeing him do this with a lot of people for a long time, and also --

MATTHEWS: I love that word.

TAYLOR: -- Jack --

MATTHEWS: Stuart, I love that word.

TAYLOR: Gratify?

MATTHEWS: Gratify. It's one of (inaudible)...

TAYLOR: Also, you know, do a favor for his former White House counsel, Jack Quinn, who did lots of favors for Clinton while Clinton was lying his way through his presidency.

[...]

MATTHEWS: I think you're very astute there, Stuart, with the argument that what Bill Clinton would do is not -- should not be judged in a snapshot. I do this, you do that. The way it works in politics is that it's always a flow. You have -- you establish a regular flow of communication with a very attractive, wealthy woman like Denise, and her ex, who has lots of money. You establish goodwill.

Over time you go back to them and ask for money. It's like in the movie "The Godfather," someday I'll call on you and ask you to do me a favor, and you'll do me a service, and I'll do you a service. Isn't that what it's like?

[...]

SQUITIERI: Chris, it'll be interesting to see what happens if they do grant immunity to Denise Rich. You know, they tried that once before with Susan McDougal, you know, giving her immunity from testifying, and she refused to testify and went to jail. I don't think, you know, that would happen with Denise Rich. But still, it'll -- it will be interesting. It'll be an interesting card to play and see what happens.

TAYLOR: Could I --

MATTHEWS: You guys are so --

TAYLOR: --. make one editorial point?

MATTHEWS: --. you're -- I know, I know, Tom, you are focused once again on the prospect of another one of those sexy perp walks --

SQUITIERI: Well, you know, I --

MATTHEWS: -- by seeing great-looking woman in shackles --

SQUITIERI: ... in the -- in the --

MATTHEWS: -- Bill Clinton's was the word "gratification" the right word, Stu?

SQUITIERI: I was just looking --

MATTHEWS: Stuart?

SQUITIERI: -- for you, Chris.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, do you think that Chairman Burton, he hasn't had a great win-loss record in going after the Clintons. I think it's mostly losses. Do you think, watching him, Stuart, as an attorney and as a journalist, do you sense he knows where he's going? He said there early in the program in that long interview he was nice to give us that he has some stuff he can't share with us. Do you think he's going somewhere?

From the November 1, 2004, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Let's to go Michael.

CUTTA: Yes.

MATTHEWS: You got a picture here you want to show me here?

CUTTA: Yes. I have got a picture of the Bush twins. They came to my hometown.

MATTHEWS: OK. Here's the big question.

[laughter]

MATTHEWS: The Bush twins showed up at -- look, these girls, what are their names?

CUTTA: Jenna and Barbara.

MATTHEWS: Now, what do you think of them sort of in terms of boy-girl stuff?

[laughter]

CUTTA: Well, I --

MATTHEWS: Would you put them high on the girl ticket if you were a boy?

CUTTA: They're --

MATTHEWS: You don't to have look at them again. Make up their mind.

[crosstalk]

MATTHEWS: You're like looking at them again to see if they're fine.

[crosstalk, laughter]

CUTTA: They're going to help go to -- they`re going to help Ohio --

[crosstalk]

MATTHEWS: OK. Are they a credit to their age group or are they a little giddy?

CUTTA: I think so. I think they represent their demographic really well.

MATTHEWS: Boy, you're an intellectual.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

MATTHEWS: Are you a sociologist? Their demographic.

CUTTA: No. I`m a journalist.

From the August 30, 2004, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Excuse me. A little cosmetic effort here right now. That's the Bush twins, very attractive young ladies. They're all graduates of college now. Both. And they are going to be active in this campaign.

From the May 31, 2001, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: I want Julia to take over this, because you did that great interview with Vogue with Mrs. Laura--Mrs. Laura Bush, the president's wife, the first lady. This question of alcohol abuse by teen-agers--I guess everybody at this table has been part of it. I was certainly part of it. I had my problems with the law in my late teens, because if you drink underage, you get in trouble. These kids are the president's daughters, they're very attractive, they go out in public in Austin, everybody sees it. For all I know, this restaurant owner at this Mexican restaurant saw a chance to screw a Republican. I don't know what was going on, and he called the police, in a case you'd never call the police. Julia, what do you make of this?

From the January 19, 2001, edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: You know, for a straight-arrow crowd of sort of purities, I've never seen so many sexy babes on the stage over at the Lincoln Memorial here, one after an (ph). I don't know even know them, who they are, but they're unbelievable.

SALLY QUINN (Washington Post writer): Well, Chris, I'm sure you could get to --

MATTHEWS: [Country singer] Lee Ann Womack --

QUINN: -- if you wanted to.

MATTHEWS: I don't have the time nor the inclination. But Sally, let me ask you about this whole thing about these events that happen. Now, people pay tons of money to get to these balls. They probably buy scalp tickets to get in. I know you can buy them. These balls, I went to one for Clinton, I guess, was the last time around, the real (unintelligible).

QUINN: And you'll never go again.

MATTHEWS: It was horrible.

QUINN: Horrible.

From the November 8, 1999, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: ...who he is. Let's take a look at her. Let's ta--Naomi Wolf speaking yesterday on Sunday television.

NAOMI WOLF (then-Al Gore adviser) [video clip from ABC's This Week]: As a professional woman, I make no apologies for earning a professional salary, and I don't believe any woman in America should have to apologize for that. In fact, I -- I wrote a book about it. Having said that, I am glad to -- I took a cut in pay to work for Al Gore. I'm taking another major cut in pay to continue working for him at a time when we're all tightening out belts, and, frankly, I'm not working for him for the money.

DEE DEE MYERS (former Clinton press secretary): Well, then what -

SQUITIERI: Well, then why's she talking about it?

MATTHEWS: You know, that sounds like -- that sounds like Monica Lewinsky talking.

SQUITIERI: Why is she talking about it?

MATTHEWS: That sounds like Valley girl talk. Nobody asked her about a right to make a living. That's like asking a bootlegger why do you--why do you bootleg? Well, you want to be a bootlegger. Don't tell me you're trying to make a living. Dee Dee, was that a reasonable grown-up person's response? "I -- I -- nobody's ever -- nobody should ever had to ex -- explain why they make a living in this country." The question is, "Are you in -- in charge of redecorating the vice president of the United States personality so he can get elected president?"

From the November 5, 1999, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Tish Durkin, what hurts worse: Al Gore's assault on his masculinity 'cause he's been caught hiring this -- I call her the political equivalent of Viagra, and --

TISH DURKIN (writer): Oh, please.

MATTHEWS: I mean, it is that. It's to make him seem like something he may not be. By the way, we elect the guy he was, not the guy he's pretending to me. So in the end, we get the guy before Naomi, not the guy after Naomi. I want to ask you what hurts more--most: the fact that G.W. looks like he doesn't have all his facts straight or that Al Gore doesn't have his gender straight?

From the January 8 edition of MSNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: That's why it's exciting, this race.

EDWARDS: Yes, it is exciting.

MATTHEWS: You've got a great face, Elizabeth. I love your smile.

EDWARDS: Thank you. Thank you, Chris.

MATTHEWS: I'm sorry. I don't want to patronize you. You're great.

EDWARDS: I'll take it.

MATTHEWS: Elizabeth Edwards, ladies and gentlemen.

From MSNBC's November 14, 2000, "Decision 2000" election coverage:

MATTHEWS: Senator Simpson, this is a tough one for the secretary of state that very attractive woman we've been watching the last couple days. I mean, she's going to have to basically either fall on her sword and say, I'm not taking these ballots, even though they've been publicly counted if they go in Gore's direction, or accept them and bring about the defeat of her candidate, perhaps.

SIMPSON: Well, she's using the word "discretion," but this is a very different thing than the usual, and Doris -- and Dick Goodwin, I'd like to visit with him about these issues, because he really knows historical politics a la LBJ and is a marvelous man.

MATTHEWS: You mean the number of votes -

SIMPSON: (unintelligible)

MATTHEWS: -- in Landslide Lyndon -

SIMPSON: -- we won't go into that -

MATTHEWS: -- how many did he win -

SIMPSON: (unintelligible)

MATTHEWS: -- the Senate seat by 88 votes?

SIMPSON: We won't bring it up. But let me tell you, (unintelligible), how do you think the American people, when they know the Gore people have picked four big Democrat counties, all staffed by Democrat canvassing officials? Now, that has an odor, and I don't care how you ring it up, it does.

From the May 21, 2004, edition of Hardball:

JANET LANGHART COHEN (wife of former Defense Secretary William Cohen): She wouldn't perform unless the black soldiers could at least sit up front with the Nazi prisoners of war. And they fired her. They fired her. So the USO has changed.

[crosstalk]

MATTHEWS: So give me one sentence on the difference between how you grew up and how you're living now and the way people treat you and the way people react to you in the public.

COHEN: It's an American dream.

[crosstalk]

MATTHEWS: Is it good for everybody?

COHEN: Oh, no.

MATTHEWS: Well, you're a very attractive woman, obviously. And you're very successful and you're well married and all those good things. Is this the general change in condition or is it mainly a personal elevation or better off living now?

COHEN: Thank you for all the compliments, Chris. But only in America could you have sheer determination, a lot of good fortune, a great family and just make it. Hard work.

From the April 15, 2005, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Let's talk about your movies, because I'm a fan, OK?

FONDA: You are a movie fan.

MATTHEWS: No, I am a movie guy, as you discovered.

FONDA: I discovered that, yes.

MATTHEWS: Now, I remember you being interviewed by Edward R. Murrow, OK? That`s all. You were in an apartment in New York. You looked like a million bucks. You still do. Some kid in New York, a bunch of boxes and suitcases in some brand new apartment.

[crosstalk]

MATTHEWS: Here is the great Edward R. Murrow with the cigarette coming in by television to interview you. Do you remember that?

FONDA: I remember it because I have photographs of him interviewing me in an apartment that I had not even moved into yet. I can't even believe you saw that. I mean, that was, oh --

[...]

MATTHEWS: How many years on this?

FONDA: Five.

MATTHEWS: You wrote it. No ghost here, right?

FONDA: No.

MATTHEWS: You did it. Anyway, you deserve credit for this book.

FONDA: Thank you, Chris. I appreciate that.

MATTHEWS: Because I think you really did answer a lot of the questions people like me have about you. And you also dazzle us with your --

FONDA: Dazzle? Thank you.

MATTHEWS: -- beauty and all the good things. Up next, Senate Republican Leader Bill Frist takes on the Democrats, saying they're against the people of faith. We'll talk about that with MSNBC's Tucker Carlson and Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times.

From the July 16, 2007 edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: So, you haven't heard from anybody about this -- this audition tape?

SOUTHERN: No. I have gotten -- I have gotten a lot of messages and e-mails complimenting the video.

MATTHEWS: Right.

SOUTHERN: And, you know, that's -- that`s great.

MATTHEWS: OK. Well, you are a cutie-pie.

From the July 24, 2007, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Let me explain to the people out there. We're here with these gorgeous creatures of God here, "Obama Girl" Amber Lee Ettinger, "Hott For Hill" -- I guess that's Hillary Clinton's girl -- Taryn Southern -- that really is her name -- and "Giuliani Girl" Adolina Kristina, who we just saw in that.

[...]

MATTHEWS: Two million people watched this video with you on it?

KRISTINA: Well, it's me and Amber fighting.

[crosstalk]

ETTINGER: We're gangs. We have our little posses.

MATTHEWS: What do you figure that's all about? Do you figure it's guys because you're great looking? What do you think it's all about? Do you think it's really political people calling up, wanting to check in, or is it just novelty, or curiosity? What is it, Adolina?

[...]

MATTHEWS: There you all are together in real live television right now. Do you think this actually -- Do you dare suggest -- Taryn, you first. You're giving me the peepers. I can tell. What are you doing here?

SOUTHERN: Peepers?

MATTHEWS: You are doing it. You are flashing your incredible eyebrows at me. Look at that. It's awful what you`re doing. Look, do you think this will affect the elections? Doesn't it scare you if it does, Taryn?

SOUTHERN: At first I thought that just seems ludicrous that me shaking my booty in a bikini is going to impact the election. But I guess from a broader scale, we're getting young people more interested in politics. They're going on YouTube and they`re at least thinking about the election. I don't think we'll sway votes either way. I hope not. You shouldn't be -

MATTHEWS: Were you in any way, Adolina, encouraged by your beauty and participation and excitement and joy and spark -- encourage one mind to look up the position of any one of these candidate on any issue?

[...]

KRISTINA: Yes.

MATTHEWS: How so? Explain the transition from looking at you in one of these crazy ads taunting the -- you`re taunting the Obama Girl. How does that excite the voter into participation?

KRISTINA: Well, I think.

MATTHEWS: I feel like Larry King tonight. Why do I feel like Larry King doing this. So, do you watch yourself in the pictures?

KRISTINA: Yes, I did. I think that -- like you said, I don't know if it is going to sway the vote for the candidate. But I think that it definitely gets people interested. And with the lyrics that are in the song, it makes people go, what? Did that really happen? For me, I went and looked up Obama was born in Hawaii.

MATTHEWS: Amber, you're walking down the street. You're beautiful. But do people come up to you and say, "I've seen you in the video"?

ETTINGER: Yes.

MATTHEWS: What do they say?

ETTINGER: They'll be like, oh, Obama Girl! I'll be like, yes.

MATTHEWS: On site they recognize you.

ETTINGER: Yes, they do.

MATTHEWS: How many hits do these guys have? Like 20 hits to memorize your face?

ETTINGER: I don't know.

MATTHEWS: They must have watched it more than once.

[crosstalk]

ETTINGER: When we hear that they haven't seen it, we're like, "What do you mean you didn't see it?"

MATTHEWS: Right after this show is over -- we're on live television, believe it or not. So be careful with the advances you are making with your eyes right now. I'm not a casting agent. Look, here's what I'm thinking, after this show we're going to do something that we do here and we're going to put it on iPod so people can watch it -- what do you call it?

From the February 1, 2007, edition of Hardball:

MATTHEWS: He'll do that kick at the end, where you save your juice, and you use it at the very end, like he did last time. Anyway, thank you, Lisa Caputo.

MATTHEWS: Thank you, Republican --

CAPUTO: Thank you, Chris.

MATTHEWS: You are looking great, by the way.

CAPUTO: Thanks.

MATTHEWS: And I just came from the Miss America contest. And you`re -- you are up there.

[crosstalk]

KATE O'BEIRNE (National Review Washington editor): That`s a professional opinion.

[crosstalk]

CAPUTO: I love going on your show, Chris.

(LAUGHTER)

CAPUTO: I will come back any time.

(LAUGHTER)

O'BEIRNE: You have been judged, Lisa.

MATTHEWS: Thank you, Kate. You are wonderful, Kate, as well.

From the August 2, 1999, edition of CNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Well, Mrs. Clinton has offered herself up in a new role. For a long time she offered herself as the--as the new Mrs. R -- Eleanor Roosevelt. She channeled with her; she apparently talked to her. I'm just kidding here. But she has clearly tried to model herself after that great first lady-- liberal first lady of Franklin Roosevelt's. And now it seems like she's offering herself in a new role, as a kind of a person who's had a therapeutic role in life. Sh--her job is to take care of a--a delinquent, someone with psychological problems that she's had to fix or deal with or accept or maintain, or whatever you will, not as particularly a political partner, which was a role she offered up before. You know, for--you get two for the price of one. Now you get a nurse for the price of the patient, all right? What do you think about her offering herself as Nurse Ratched to -- to the cuckoo's nest here?

FLOWERS: Well, I think that what Hillary Clinton has done has been an enabler. She does not have to continue to put up with this and --

MATTHEWS: To what o -- to what purpose was she an enabler?

FLOWERS: She's -- she's been an enabler for years and years, long before he was the president of the United States, by saying -- b -- by not stopping him, by not saying, 'You have got to stop this cheating in our marriage or it will not continue.' As a result --

MATTHEWS: Well, you know, I got -- I gotta -- I gotta pay a little tribute here. You're a very beautiful woman, and I -- and I have to tell you, he knows that, you know that, and everybody watching knows that; Hillary Clinton knows that. How can a woman put up with a relationship between her husband and somebody, anybody, but especially somebody like you that's a knockout? I don't quite get this relationship.

FLOWERS: Gosh, you make me blush here.

MATTHEWS: Well --

FLOWERS: I'm -- I'm telling you -- I'll tell you, this --

MATTHEWS: -- it's an objective statement, Gennifer. I'm not flirting. So let's go on.

FLOWERS: How can she do this?

MATTHEWS: Yeah.

FLOWERS: Because she is willing to sacrifice her personal integrity for their political motivation.

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    • Author by Sueelldd (January 17, 2008 9:52 am ET)
         

      Wow, MMFA is really going after Matthews with a vengence. I say good riddence. His time has now come. I do not think MSNBC will do anything though. That place is so out of touch with reality.  There is a reason they call it AMessNBC.

       

       

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      • Author by mary59 (January 17, 2008 10:06 am ET)
           
        now that was funny!
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      • Author by JLyons (January 17, 2008 10:08 am ET)
           

        Good Morning Sueeld

         You have a point. MSNBC is a network of intolerance from Scarborough (not an African American named to replace the Racist Imus), to hiring Michael Savage in 2003 to Chris Matthews , to Tucker Carlsons anti Gay statements. Nothing will happen to Matthews , just like nothing has happened to Carlson. Is till ask MSNBC, why no African American hosts?  They even made Alison Stewart all but disappear after the Imus fiasco.

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      • Author by johnny_nyc8351 (January 17, 2008 11:15 am ET)
           
        I tend to agree with you since Matthews was on the Tonight Show last night. That's a plum spot for anyone on NBC's roster.

        I don't expect anything to happen at MSNBC this election cycle but I don't think people should stop expressing their dissatisfaction with the state of affairs over there.

        At least we're not hearing the "Matthews isn't a journalist he's a commentator" claptrap Fox News hides their agenda behind.
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    • Author by wolfbato (January 17, 2008 10:30 am ET)
         
      I urge everybody to take Matthews off your DVR/TIVO and let MSNBC know you are doing this. Hurt him where it hurts ... his ratings. Let's get rid of this Fascist ... once and for all.
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      • Author by Mickeleh (January 17, 2008 10:46 am ET)
           
        I have taken both of those actions. He's gone. And I told 'em he's gone.
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    • Author by bruce1ace (January 17, 2008 10:34 am ET)
         
      I agree that Matthews compliments towards these womens appearance might be unprofessional in the context of conducting an interview, but degrading?  I wouldn't use that term.
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      • Author by tommy (January 17, 2008 11:12 am ET)
           

        Agree Bruce, degrading it is not.  Unprofessional, maybe - but considering much of the content on these cable chat shows these days, from bratty celebrity antics to a myriad of oddball oddities, Matthews' remarks may embarass himself, but that's about it. 

        If people don't know by now that he speaks off-the-cuff, mile-a-minute impulsive banter with many of his pundits and guests, then perhaps they should stick to Sunday morning shows and C-Span.  You know what you get with Matthews, and that ain't it.....

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        • Author by YellowDogDemocrat (January 17, 2008 3:25 pm ET)
             
          With all due respect, Bruce and Tommy, you feel these comments are not degrading because you are not women.  If you spent all your adult life being judged on how you look before you are judged on what you do, you would not think these are compliments at all.  If degrading is too strong a word perhaps patronizing is a better substitute.
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        • Author by conleytgwinn (January 17, 2008 3:28 pm ET)
             
          Given the paucity of value on any network today, to defend (any) of their transgressions (as you have defended Matthews': " . . . but considering much of the content on these cable chat shows these days . . . ") with that intro reminds me of the term "Pyrrhic Victorty" or worse, since in order to defend your argument, you have conceded the war and the battle. Whatever the choice of verbiage, if Matthews can only be defended by comparison to others as bad or worse, you have accepted the loss, and should salvage your WITH forces for another day.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (January 17, 2008 10:35 am ET)
         

      Mr. Mathews, I guess a man in your position can comment on anything you like. But, do you think that at times you are objectifying some women? Some of the anchors, who already realize that their looks are important, do not need you to embarass them. Some may like your comments, some may not.

      That would like some saying the Chris Matthews calls his wife "Butterface" and when questioned where he got the nickname, the anwer was, "She's got a great body, BUT HER FACE, yuk.

      Chris still to commenting on issues and leave your talented eye in your pants, I meant eye socket.

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    • Author by RedRightHand (January 17, 2008 10:40 am ET)
         

      Hum.  I notice the article doesn't mention his fawning notions over the male guests;  I'm not discounting his preoccupation with feminine beauty and the trip he seems to get off on authoritatively stating his opinions on it, but it makes it seem like manufactured sexism when his fawning over powerful men is eliminated (though certain commentary like his review of "Mission Accomplished" can work for both http://mediamatters.org/items/200604270005 )

      To reiterate: I am not discounting that he does what is stated here, nor am I saying it's OK ... but I think that the deliberate omission of his similar treatment of powerful men is giving this argument against Matthews an "out" it doesn't deserve (namely that he speaks of male non-guests in a similar manner, though I can't recall him acting this way with a man on his program).

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      • Author by RedRightHand (January 17, 2008 10:42 am ET)
           
        Gah; I didn't change the first part which should have read "fawning over male non-guests"  I wanted to make that clear, but meh.  Oh well ^_^
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      • Author by kgonz (January 17, 2008 11:15 am ET)
           

        I'd agree that Matthews's fawning over men is also a part of his pathology, and I believe it actually reinforces the larger issue with Matthews: he is in the end all about telling it the way he sees it/the way he wants it to be. He is amazingly self-obsessed in his analysis and interpretation of everything, and his world is obviously simply superficial. He just cares about appearances and perceptions. Depth matters not at all. The fact that he has his own show only validates this for him, and he feels empowered to push his viewpoint as the only "real" one because he is "hard." He is shallow, arrogant, sexist, and yet, at heart, insecure, and so must either denigrate or worship those who push his buttons, for good or bad. That denigration/worship dichotomy, though, can only be in a surface/sensationalist paradigm, because it would otherwise admit a complexity to the world with which Matthews cannot engage, for fear of his constructed center-of-the-political-universe self collapsing like the house of cars it is. So, he feigns insight with idiotic comparisons to "castratos" or Lawrence of Arabia analogies, all the while only reacting and never truly thinking. When called on it, he can only defend and throw out even more insipid responses, like challenging Barbara Walters to political Jeopardy.  

        Jon Stewart has him down: "That guy's insane."

        Colbert's self-obsessed satire of these pundits is perhaps actually too tame in comparison with Matthews.  

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        • Author by RedRightHand (January 17, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
             
          Thank you, this is essentially what I was trying to say; His issue isn't so much sexism as a lack of ability to ask questions of depth.  I wish my brain had been working this morning ^_^
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    • Author by pete592 (January 17, 2008 10:40 am ET)
         

      Matthews on-air wet dreams, however explicit or implied they may be, have nothing to do with political agendas. 

      IMO, this is another case of MMFA gone astray. 

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    • Author by Mickeleh (January 17, 2008 10:44 am ET)
         
      Sounds like he's auditioning to be Howard Stern's replacement. I wonder if he'll start asking the women to kiss each other.

      But it ain't just women, as you know. Chris Matthews's obsession with the manliness of public figures is equally disturbing. You wouldn't happen to have a set of transcripts in the works to show that Chris is an equal-opportunity obsessive on physical attractiveness.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 10:56 am ET)
         
      Sexism is a political agenda.
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      • Author by pete592 (January 17, 2008 11:29 am ET)
           

        But does Matthews' sexism forward the conservative agenda?  As liberal as my leanings are, I still have a hard time believing it.  My mind is open and I'm willing to be convinced.

        Don't get me wrong, Matthews is the epitome of what's wrong with the media today, and this item only further proves it, but it's outside of MMFA's scope in my opinion.

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 12:10 pm ET)
             

          Delegitimism of women's political expression is to my mind part an parcel to the neocon agenda. Sexism is a major part of this.

          Dig, we don't survive unless we are sexual. Finding pleasure in the appearence and actions of what ever you consider a sexual partner is pretty hard wired into us. Objectifying, disregarding of polictical opinions, and puting down as unworthy of usefulness except for sex and domestic duty, is what I call sexist.

          It is missinformation to push this however subtly. Not a problem for Chris subtle he ain't. 

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          • Author by tommy (January 17, 2008 12:22 pm ET)
               
            Matthews is hardly a neocon by any stretch, and I have no clue at all where  you come up with their quest to delegitimize women's political expression??..  In any event, how is Matthews even attempting to do that by complimenting their appearance during an interview?  And if he were out to squelch their "political expression", why would he have them on his show at all?
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 12:31 pm ET)
                 
              To show how to make them powerless. Chris's support for imperialistic notions puts him in the neocon camp for me. How do you define them? 
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              • Author by tommy (January 17, 2008 12:33 pm ET)
                   
                Because I disagree with your "imperialistic notions" statement, besides Matthews is a democrat.
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                • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
                     
                  Your reply is strange, did you actually read mine?
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                  • Author by tommy (January 17, 2008 1:59 pm ET)
                       
                    Mine is strange?  You are saying that Matthews is a neocon, when in fact he is a Democrat, and that the reason he has women on his show is to compliment them and render them powerless, or some such nonsense - which is the neocon agenda, or something like that??  
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                    • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 2:26 pm ET)
                         

                      Saying your a democrat does not constitute a kings X against being a neocon. As for the rest, take a deep breath and try again.

                      Lunch time!

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                      • Author by TomJoad (January 17, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
                           
                        tommy calls it 'or some such nonsense' with an air of self-importance. I'd call it an insightful point, especially seeing as Tommy is a man and obviously can't relate to being marginalised in the workplace as a woman.
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                        • Author by tommy (January 17, 2008 5:34 pm ET)
                             
                          Oh please, only raging 70's feminists think that sincere compliments from men towards women is only a ploy to render them powerless.  Maybe you can sing a chorus of "I am Woman" while you're at it, and burn a bra or something.
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                          • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 9:44 pm ET)
                               

                            Sincere compliments have nothing to do with making a woman, or anybody powerless. Insincere, backhaned, underwhelming, excuses for compliments. Well that's a good way to put someone on the defensive, and if your inclined to pursue with dominate intent, can put them into a nicely powerless position. Chris's position from his forums is already in a potentially dominate position as the host. Evidence shows he has taken advantage of his position to show his lack of respect to women.

                            He did make a statement today, which I haven't read. Coments as I saw were positive about the statement. Hope its true and he follows though and I'll leave it at that

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          • Author by achrispage6992 (January 17, 2008 1:54 pm ET)
               
            So Bill Clinton is a sexist neocon too I guess?
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
                 
              Make your case.
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              • Author by achrispage6992 (January 17, 2008 8:05 pm ET)
                   
                There was a question mark at the end of that sentence therefore making it a question rather than a demonstrative statement that I have to support.
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                • Author by eweston8542983 (January 17, 2008 9:25 pm ET)
                     

                  As you like. just leave it out there to hang. I'm sure the concept has its heros,...somewhere.

                  Bill does have a certain public sex history. I can't really think of anthing sexist in connection with him to go with it. Course that could be the notorious work of the equally notorious, and mythologically lethal, Clinton Gang.

                  Trying to try him to the unrestrained imperialism of the neocons could bring a smile to Tommy's face. Not for the sentiment, but for the technique

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    • Author by mary59 (January 17, 2008 11:03 am ET)
         

      A lot of women, me included, have heard the "compliments" on appearance which are really condescending put-downs.  "There, I've objectified you and put you in your place, and shown you who is in charge."  Matthews does have an obsession with guys as well, but from a distance.

      Bush does this also with his comments on looks and pet nick naming.  I think both men are insecure and arrogant at the same time.

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      • Author by greekfurnace (January 17, 2008 11:11 am ET)
           

        Exactly right. It's all power-tripping nonsense.  If you watch Matthews for any amount of time, his actions are completely predictable -- including his frequent man-crushes over these faux-toughguy Republicans.  Basic animal behavior of an insecure male.

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      • Author by bruce1ace (January 17, 2008 11:27 am ET)
           
        If a compliment is sincere then I don't see it as a condescending put-down.  The alternative is to not give compliments on appearance, and I don't think women would appreciate that either.  I just don't think Matthews should do it in this venue.
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        • Author by snoopy (January 17, 2008 11:40 am ET)
             
          There is a right way and a wrong way. I think being honest and saying things like "you look very nice today" probably goes much farther than "check out the bazooka's! are those weapons registered?!"
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        • Author by greekfurnace (January 17, 2008 11:42 am ET)
             

          You regularly give compliments to woman you dont' know re their appearance? "Hey there gorgeous!" That's pretty old-school.

          Matthews is a leading political commentator on a nationally televised network in 2008 - he should revise his approach a bit.

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    • Author by dave_chicago (January 17, 2008 11:39 am ET)
         

      There is really no excuse for this. These leering quips are what someone would have expected from Bob Hope, back in the 50s and 60s, or the office talk from AMC's Mad Men -a series set in 1960. But this is 2008, and Chris Matthews is --supposedly-- one of the media's most serious political analysts. If he can't take treat women --and the viewers-- with respect, surely there are others out there who can.

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    • Author by cnluhn (January 17, 2008 1:30 pm ET)
         
      Every time Matthews opens his mouth (which is to say, every time he fails to shut his mouth), he proves that he can't take a punch, especially when delivered by a woman. During his January 4 "interview" with Elizabeth Edwards, for instance, he reverted to name-calling and shop-worn attacks on trial lawyers after she smacked him around a few times for his (and the rest of the press') pathetic coverage of the Democratic race as a two-person fight. (Hell -- Huckabee is polling in the teens in South Carolina yet gets more air every night than Edwards gets in a week! But, I digress . . .) Let's face it: Chris Matthews is still trying to emerge from puberty, so he might be forgiven his juvenile obsession with women's looks -- except that he has his own damn TV show that purports to feature moderately intelligent discussion and commentary. In that regard, he is edging ever-closer to O'Reilly in content and demeanor, something that should be making the MS-NBC brass a tad anxious.
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    • Author by night-n-day (January 17, 2008 2:52 pm ET)
         

      How long until Matthews has his falafel moment? Not that it would matter much to either the networks or the morons that watch him.

      O'Reilly was exposed as being both a criminal deviant and sexual degenerate, yet wingnuts continue to buy his "Books for Kids" as if allowing your children to take advice from a twisted, repressed sicko like Billo is OK as long as he's a card-carrying unhinged-Republican.

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    • Author by pradcliffe (January 18, 2008 11:20 pm ET)
         

       

      MSNBC is trash TV and really not very different from the trash that exists throughout network and cable TV.   Matthews, O'Reilly, Tucker are not there to inform, discuss, or even debate.  They are there to sensationalize and entertain in order to keep their ratings high for their "right" minded coroporate greed machine.  To expect MSNBC and it's pundits to "get it," is akin to expecting George W. Bush to "get it."   Not likely.

      pradcliffe

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